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    MIKE V. apprehended by UC POLICE!!!!

    Several days ago, one of our customers came in to tell us this event that happened to him recently while riding bikes in Berkeley.

    On Saturday May 15th, he was riding a trail behind the UC Berkeley campus, when he was stopped by a crazed hiker furnishing an ice pick. The crazed hiker attempted to slice the tire and potentially attack him. In attempt to defend himself, our customer raised a fist and was going to knock the deranged hiker out. The said hiker replied with, "you aren't going to hit a guy twice your age are you?", and the cyclist decided not to but replied with, "no, but I'm going to go contact the UC police". The cyclist headed down the hill and then reported to the UC police, the encounter he just had. Having no idea the name of the crazy hiker, he put in the report with the police and they seemed to know who this said hiker was.
    Several days later, the cyclist was called into the UC Berkeley police station to pick the hiker out of a line up. He picked out Mr. V right away, and after he left the line up room, ANOTHER cyclist came in to pick him out of the line up for yet another similar situation.
    Mr. V was apprehended and arrested, and is currently facing charges for several accounts of furnishing a weapon and false imprisonment. The police are urging anyone else who has had similar situations to please come forward and file a report. When the cyclist asked the policeman if he was going to site him for riding the trail, the policeman replied with "no, we are not enforcing the use of the trail, and by the way there is no official ruling about bicycles on that trail".

    Here is a link to the UC police log for that day so you can revel in a victory for the Norcal mountain bike community!

    http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05152010Page2.htm
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    Fantastic!
    And it is "brandishing"

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    nice! time to update the comment sections of the recent articles

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    One more trail to ride! And one less crazy to worry about. At least for a little while.

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    Nice work! Do we know for sure it was Wackjob PhD?
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    Great. We need a mugshot picture to post in various comment sections...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    Nice work! Do we know for sure it was Voldemort?
    FIxed Also, great news. Now will someone please find the actual record of his being charged as that is what people will need to refer to when joining in on any possible action or suit. Also, are they giving a cutoff of similar reports, like say the 3 year mark?

    ie: Report# ..-..964

    Charged/Cited # XXXXXXX.

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    This is awesome.

    I've been reading he stuff for years and he is simply off kilter but sane enough to avoid getting nailed.

    Until now.

    I could cry for happy.

    Great work, guys.

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    From my report, he is currently not is custody, and is awaiting the hearing(s)...
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    Classic if true. I can't wait to see the arrest report and booking photo. Someone will need to contact the UCPD. This is a job for the press. Gregg? Francis?

    Case #10-01964, Officer Garlick, "If you have a question about a particular case, you may call the UCPD business line at 510-642-6760 and make your request to Records who will then let you know if that information can be made public."

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    I've got no "brandished weapon" claim

    unfortunately, but he did start a tangle with my buddy way back when. I'll see if I can locate said buddy and give him the news. Maybe he'll jump on board.

    To the OP: my buddy worked at your Oakland shop way back when: Dirty ___ I believe was his nickname. Any chance you talk to him much?
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    please be true....

    please be true....

    please be true....

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    I love how it was Ian that got him, so fitting.
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    There is a god!!!

    Way to keep your head Ian. I don't know if I would have been able to keep from pounding that old nut. The twice my age defense would not have worked with me but my college days ended 2 1/2 decades ago.

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    Nice work on behalf of the PD (to finally pick this guy up) and the confronted/detained/mtbrs who were able to keep their cool and help pin this guy.

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    I'll have to....

    ... go find Officer Garlick and thank him personally.

    It would be sweet if the OP can take him to small claims court and get MV to pay for the damage to his bike..... just for the record ... and the chuckle.

    Man, I hope he gets charged for real, and somebody thinks to bring in all of the over-the-line abusive junk he has spewed mtbr's way, laughing at cyclists death... that sorta thing. Get it read into the public record.

    I mean, I don't have an issue with somebody having crazy or stupid opinions. This is America after all. I do object to him acting in an abusive manner to folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJensen
    I love how it was Ian that got him, so fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peletonnissen
    Several days ago, one of our customers came in to tell us this event that happened to him recently while riding bikes in Berkeley.

    On Saturday May 15th, he was riding a trail behind the UC Berkeley campus, when he was stopped by a crazed hiker furnishing an ice pick. The crazed hiker attempted to slice the tire and potentially attack him. In attempt to defend himself, our customer raised a fist and was going to knock the deranged hiker out. The said hiker replied with, "you aren't going to hit a guy twice your age are you?", and the cyclist decided not to but replied with, "no, but I'm going to go contact the UC police". The cyclist headed down the hill and then reported to the UC police, the encounter he just had. Having no idea the name of the crazy hiker, he put in the report with the police and they seemed to know who this said hiker was.
    Several days later, the cyclist was called into the UC Berkeley police station to pick the hiker out of a line up. He picked out Mr. V right away, and after he left the line up room, ANOTHER cyclist came in to pick him out of the line up for yet another similar situation.
    Mr. V was apprehended and arrested, and is currently facing charges for several accounts of furnishing a weapon and false imprisonment. The police are urging anyone else who has had similar situations to please come forward and file a report. When the cyclist asked the policeman if he was going to site him for riding the trail, the policeman replied with "no, we are not enforcing the use of the trail, and by the way there is no official ruling about bicycles on that trail".

    Here is a link to the UC police log for that day so you can revel in a victory for the Norcal mountain bike community!

    http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05152010Page2.htm
    Awesome!

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    So will the date that this M. Voldemort cretin gets charged become a new bay area MTB holiday?
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    Thats great

    i wonder if he knows about the "kill some one or become ones bltch" prison survival guide. Hopefully not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FANATIK-J
    So will the date that this M. Voldemort cretin gets charged become a new bay area MTB holiday?
    I think we should celebrate Mike V day by shuttling Side O! (which is not an illegal trail and therefore is perfectly ok to discuss online, right. right??)
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    Weird...they were handing out tickets at the bottom last fall.

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    anybody have a photo of this kook so we know who to look out for?
    Just ride down there and jump off something for crying out loud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryman
    anybody have a photo of this kook so we know who to look out for?
    There is a facebook profile for mike vandeman from san ramon, ca. Looks like he's removed his profile pic, but google has cached it.

    This may or may not be him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    There is a facebook profile for mike vandeman from san ramon, ca. Looks like he's removed his profile pic, but google has cached it.

    This may or may not be him.
    This aughta be fun!
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    Excellent news

    A new thread just popped up about this guy on TGR yesterday, great timing on the arrest.

    A lot of hate for him over there (and just about everywhere else too).

    maybe this will shut him up, at least for a little bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumpy
    A new thread just popped up about this guy on TGR yesterday, great timing on the arrest.

    A lot of hate for him over there (and just about everywhere else too).

    maybe this will shut him up, at least for a little bit?
    I'd say unlikely

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    "you aren't going to hit a guy twice your age, are you?"

    "you didn't just assault a mtn biker with an ice pick, did you?"

    aggressively brash and a pussi, what a combo!

    maybe a 5150 is in order for this wacky geezer. he's giving wacky geezers everywhere a bad name.

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    I'd LOVE to be @ his court hearing...

    anyone know when it is or more info? We need a cheering section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    anyone know when it is or more info? We need a cheering section...
    I think posting up some nice riding pictures on their anti-mountain biking page is highly appropriate!

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Mountain-Biking-is-Illegal-HERE-Post-your-Poacher-Pics-here/117731878242599
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    I think posting up some nice riding pictures on their anti-mountain biking page is highly appropriate!

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Mountain-Biking-is-Illegal-HERE-Post-your-Poacher-Pics-here/117731878242599
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM
    done.....
    too funny!
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    As awesome as this is, he will only take what we do and turn it against us.
    Any comment and pic posted to the FB site will be downloaded and put on his website. "Here's CHUM riding some illegal trail somewhere."
    We need this guy. He's such a kook that it makes anti-mtbers look like fools when this is their spokesperson. If the pro-mtb side had a guy like this, we'd be doing everything we can to shut him up. I wouldn't support a MTBer out harassing other trail users for our benefit. The anti-mtb side is likely happy about this too.
    Likely, the only people that think this guy is awesome are other kooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    As awesome as this is, he will only take what we do and turn it against us.
    Any comment and pic posted to the FB site will be downloaded and put on his website. "Here's CHUM riding some illegal trail somewhere."
    We need this guy. He's such a kook that it makes anti-mtbers look like fools when this is their spokesperson. If the pro-mtb side had a guy like this, we'd be doing everything we can to shut him up. I wouldn't support a MTBer out harassing other trail users for our benefit. The anti-mtb side is likely happy about this too.
    Likely, the only people that think this guy is awesome are other kooks.
    all the pics posted thus far are on legal trails. I just thought his FB page needed a little riding stoke!
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    it is good to here that one more crazy is off local trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    As awesome as this is, he will only take what we do and turn it against us.
    Any comment and pic posted to the FB site will be downloaded and put on his website. "Here's CHUM riding some illegal trail somewhere."
    We need this guy. He's such a kook that it makes anti-mtbers look like fools when this is their spokesperson. If the pro-mtb side had a guy like this, we'd be doing everything we can to shut him up. I wouldn't support a MTBer out harassing other trail users for our benefit. The anti-mtb side is likely happy about this too.
    Likely, the only people that think this guy is awesome are other kooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    There is a facebook profile for mike vandeman from san ramon, ca. Looks like he's removed his profile pic, but google has cached it.

    This may or may not be him.
    Not in MV's defense, but on his facebook page, I saw that photo and it is of one of his friends, not MV himself. Don't want to go accusing the wrong guy on the street.

    That being said, I think a celebratory ride is in order tonight. I have my bike packed up, and will be riding somewhere on the peninsula tonight. Maybe Skeggs, maybe Waterdog, not sure.

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    That facebook page is gold
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    this is something i thought would never happen

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    buh-bye

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    Wonder if someone can get a restraining order for MV to stay 500 feet away from ANY singletrack... as he is clearly a threat to anyone on any trail, ice pick and all....

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    That rules! That kook has been threatening riders up there for a long time.
    Thanks for the facebook.
    Never knew that was the same kook. (I have not rode there in a very long time)

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    We still need some sort of confirmation that it was indeed Mr V.

    Shouldn't an arraignment or whatever it ishappen within a couple of days?

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    since he's about my age, does that mean I get to smack him one??
    Just kidding, I'm 3000 mi away, but he caused me some grief back when I lived in the BA.
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    Too funny if true. I wonder if Mickey would have access to a computer in jail to keep spreading his gospel.
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    Although it's awesome that Dr. whacko was apprehended, my guess is that he gets probation and community service with a small fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham Er Hed
    Although it's awesome that Dr. whacko was apprehended, my guess is that he gets probation and community service with a small fine.
    I think a 100 hours or so with IMBA would be fitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham Er Hed
    Although it's awesome that Dr. whacko was apprehended, my guess is that he gets probation and community service with a small fine.
    Make him volunteer at Trips for Kids!
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    Everyone who has had a similar experience with the whacko should respond to the crime alert notice in the above link. The police are doing their job and we need to do ours. The outcome of this may be in the balance, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWright
    Fantastic!
    And it is "brandishing"
    As someone who works in a furniture store, 'furnishing' is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham Er Hed
    Although it's awesome that Dr. whacko was apprehended, my guess is that he gets probation and community service with a small fine.
    probation and a restrainig order would be awesome. Violating terms of probabtion could be a bigger deal. But I'd bet he likely would only be fined.

    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    As awesome as this is, he will only take what we do and turn it against us.
    Any comment and pic posted to the FB site will be downloaded and put on his website. "Here's CHUM riding some illegal trail somewhere."
    We need this guy. He's such a kook that it makes anti-mtbers look like fools when this is their spokesperson. If the pro-mtb side had a guy like this, we'd be doing everything we can to shut him up. I wouldn't support a MTBer out harassing other trail users for our benefit. The anti-mtb side is likely happy about this too.
    Likely, the only people that think this guy is awesome are other kooks.
    I'm no lawyer, but if he is informed that he posted a pic or info of someone riding legally, but representing it as illegal, he would need to take it down or else it he is knowingly committing defamation/libel.

    In fact, I'd encourage anyone that is already (falsly) listed on his site to somehow notify him and his ISP what he is doing.

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    just got off the horn with the UC Berkeley PD records dept (accessed via the business/non-emergency line).....

    nothing new yet....no public record of arrest yet.....it may take a little while for the arresting Officer to file their report....

    again the case # is 10-01964...
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    Who was voted off on American Idol last night?


    ps **** you Voldemort

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    I've forwarded this thread to all my Berkeley friends who've had run in with him... They're ready to go in to pick him out of a line up. Which Ian reported him? Ian M?
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    This is the best news I've heard in a long while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte
    As someone who works in a furniture store, 'furnishing' is ok.
    We can wish for the mt bike bigot to be furnished with a hundred counts of "false imprisonment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes
    Also, he's got a list of people who claims have been noted mountain biking illegally:
    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mtb95
    Patty Ciesla is public enemy #1 according to the list. We need to find this culprit!

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    awesome news!!
    someone needs to post his court date. i, for one, will be taking that day off to go watch.
    who's with me?

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    [QUOTE=Stripes]From his Facebook page:

    Mountain Biking is Illegal HERE - Post your Poacher Pics here Email your pics or video to Poachers_R_Us@hotmail.com for anonymous posting or post them yourself. Please indicate date, trail, city and state.

    So he's got that email too. Also, he's got a list of people who claims have been noted mountain biking illegally:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes
    From his Facebook page:

    Mountain Biking is Illegal HERE - Post your Poacher Pics here Email your pics or video to Poachers_R_Us@hotmail.com for anonymous posting or post them yourself. Please indicate date, trail, city and state.

    So he's got that email too. Also, he's got a list of people who claims have been noted mountain biking illegally:
    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mtb95
    I say we fill up his email box with full res TIFF files of perfectly legal singletrack riding.

    Hotmail has a box size limit, doesn't it?

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    Watching this thread with interest. Almost makes me wish I'd run into the guy before so I could testify against him. As an East Bay and SF Bay area resident and MTBr, I really hope this guy gets convicted so that maybe he tones down his psycho anti-bike actions or at least so he loses what credibility he has left.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biker_Scout_Sparky
    awesome news!!
    someone needs to post his court date. i, for one, will be taking that day off to go watch.
    who's with me?
    I want to know who's prosecuting the guy so we can help them gather evidence to illustrate the danger this guy poses.

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    You can help gather evidence by responding to the crime alert as posted by the UC Berkeley Police. I doubt they want more lineup IDs, just people to truthfully say that they think this is the same guy who acted in a similar way in the past. We should not expect much of a punishment, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskare
    You can help gather evidence by responding to the crime alert as posted by the UC Berkeley Police. I doubt they want more lineup IDs, just people to truthfully say that they think this is the same guy who acted in a similar way in the past. We should not expect much of a punishment, regardless.

    I agree with all of the above except your last sentence. UC seems to take a dim view of weapons on campus, let alone using one.

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    I was kinda thinkin' that bradishing an icepack had to be at least kinda serious....

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    He was also brandishing a hardbound book.

    I am reminded of the time Michael Moore was busted for making trails near China Camp. I'm sure the anti-bike forces were as jubilant as we are today. Let's proceed smartly here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    I am reminded of the time Michael Moore was busted for making trails near China Camp. I'm sure the anti-bike forces were as jubilant as we are today. Let's proceed smartly here.
    A knife weilding psycho, assaulting trail users reminds you of a mountain biker? Sorry, I don't see the similarity at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    I am reminded of the time Michael Moore was busted for making trails near China Camp. I'm sure the anti-bike forces were as jubilant as we are today. Let's proceed smartly here.
    You are still trying to equate false imprisonment and brandishing a deadly weapon perpetrated by a deranged individual - with riding or building a trail? You must have aced your Doublespeak 101.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    I say we fill up his email box with full res TIFF files of perfectly legal singletrack riding.
    I say we ignore him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJensen
    I love how it was Ian that got him, so fitting.
    *I was all about not talking about Voldemort, but this is kinda cool now..

    Ditto that Ian is the most cool/mellow guy I've met from that shop and another place before.

    Ian, if all goes well, let me buy you a beer, heck, let us buy you a keg!

    BTW..ROFLMAO: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi....3056852938..1

    Also Kenju's (Japanese MTB Team Rider from a few years back) trying to find his page and cuss him out in Japanese..it's gotta be bad when a tourist/visitor you harassed gets to lay in on you! Apparently he's shut down his wall to prevent opposition replies.

    I believe this is Voldemort's new avatar?
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    Idea!

    Important thing here, I almost forgot to put this in a post..excuse me whilst I get up no my soapbox and give a little speech/sermon..





    *Ian, Ian's employer, others publicly named and defamed on his site (ie:Patty, Jacqueline, etc.), we need someone to sit down and download and save as much as possible off of his website and Facebook, etc and have copies made and certified by a Public Notary or legal office.

    Note: We also could use MTBR's database and post info from his past online harassments if MTBR's site administration will allow any saved posts and information to be given in printed and data form to be presented as evidence.




    We then need someone to go to the D.A.'s office and present that information and a list of people he's affected.




    We then need someone to step up and represent Ian, and those others.




    All of which not only will back up the possible "Brandishing a Weapon" charge, but also..




    Potentially..




    Force the D.A.'s Office into seeking a suit against him in a Class-Action format for Intentional Harassment and Hate Crimes.




    See where we, as a peaceful and threatened and harassed public user group, that has been affected and threatened by him can easily take this if we all put our heads together.




    Someone please, we all know each other has contacts, maybe it is time we find a situation such as this, just as we have done with dangerous drivers, to band together and put a stop to the actions of this individual.



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    Two wrongs don't make a right. Two completely unrelated wrongs...not sure if that makes any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    Two wrongs don't make a right. Two completely unrelated wrongs...not sure if that makes any sense.
    What are you talking about?
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    To Curmy and Iheart are reading something else.

    My point is very different. What Michael V and Michael M did and how one weighs them is not the point. What is the point is that each faction, anti-mtb and pro-mtb use such figureheads of their opposition to their advantage with the same zeal I hear in this thread. It is as if it proves their point; anti-mtb'ers are just bike-hater wackos and pro-mtb'ers are bent on environmental destruction.

    My comment was, then, let us be careful of how we put this to use.

    Frankly Michael V's position in the community has long been on the fringe and disregarded by most folks. The Sierra Club won't have anything to do with him. The only time he really gets any traction is when he baits members of our community and they try to argue with him. It makes him far bigger than he really is. You think we would know better than to enter into any discourse with him. His written voice, even to the uninitiated, reveals a hysterical disposition from a loose hinge and when you point that out in a discussion you have taken the pins right out from under him.

    This current event is just the last flick to get the sticky booger off of your finger. Rather than a watershed or pivotal point it is more of a simple come-uppance. Very satisfying that such criminal behavior is apprehended, his point finally made with a weapon. I hope to god it really is V because as with most passive-aggressive characters they are a pain and simply being rid of the smell would be nice. Politically though, this is pretty small.

    Michael Moore was not a crackpot by any stretch of the imagination and held the respect of many of us.

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    It it turns out to be true, it'll be fun to remind Mickey everytime he posts his hatred online of his real life behavior. Should be fun.
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    Photo of MJV PHD

    Quote Originally Posted by ryman
    anybody have a photo of this kook so we know who to look out for?
    Met him last year at the State Parks Advocacy day and got into a "debate" about mountain bikes on trails. I outed him as MJV after he called me a "liar" with the generalization that "all mountain bikers are liars".

    I discretely snapped a photo of him at registration.
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    +1 again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    +1

    Makes the most sense strategically.

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    Perspective folks

    No one is arguing that trail building and wielding an ice pick are equally offensive from any objective or legal stand point. This is about perception:

    Our current concern / perceptions: Ice picks are not a good way to greet people on trails

    Current concern / perceptions of "human-free nature"(for lack of a better term on the fly) ideologues: Trail building destroys nature, environment and therefore a future.

    Both perceptions drive people into action. Let's not do anything to provoke more action against our interests. This might include e-harassing nutjobs or their friends or followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    My point is very different. What Michael V and Michael M did and how one weighs them is not the point.
    No, it is exactly the point.

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    FINALLY!!! I was becoming tired of reading about this abrasive, confrontational J-hole.
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    MV Arrested

    What's next with this wacko? A more deadly weapon?

    Let's find out his court dates and have a cheering section for the District Attorney and UCPD. He'll probably pay a fine and get probation if found guilty, but maybe the probation could be to stay away from the trails.

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    Excellent news! I sure hope all who've been harassed on the trail can come forward...just thinking of him having to come in for a couple more lineups makes me smile! The news even got attached to his recent remarks in SFgate on the Marin high school mtn bike league! Love the idea of having him do trail work as community service!
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    Let It Go

    Probably the best thing to do is ride the trails and pity this poor sap. The guy obviously has pain inside or finds poking fun at MTB's as much fun as we do ripin' single track. He's obviously never bombed a trail that cuases permagrin. Even when he hiking he's bitter and looking for some person to offend him.
    Just be thankful that you're not stuck in that place. Instead you have fun riding with freinds and chillin' after a ride. It's not likely he's enjoying much of life and we're not going to make that change. He is also not going to persuade anyone else about much of anything (even with his "logic" and PhD.) He is probably grieving the good old days before Mt. Bikes. That's O.K. But it doesn't give licence to do what he's been doing. He clearly doesn't know how to persuade anyone. So he is enraged. Let's not do the same. Let's show that were good folks that like to ride. Not trying to hurt anyone. So just let it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlaff
    Probably the best thing to do is ride the trails and pity this poor sap. The guy obviously has pain inside or finds poking fun at MTB's as much fun as we do ripin' single track. He's obviously never bombed a trail that cuases permagrin. Even when he hiking he's bitter and looking for some person to offend him.
    Just be thankful that you're not stuck in that place. Instead you have fun riding with freinds and chillin' after a ride. It's not likely he's enjoying much of life and we're not going to make that change. He is also not going to persuade anyone else about much of anything (even with his "logic" and PhD.) He is probably grieving the good old days before Mt. Bikes. That's O.K. But it doesn't give licence to do what he's been doing. He clearly doesn't know how to persuade anyone. So he is enraged. Let's not do the same. Let's show that were good folks that like to ride. Not trying to hurt anyone. So just let it be.
    Sure Mike V.

    It's not like people are attacking the guy with metal objects. They followed what is demanded of people in a society: they went to the cops and let the legal system handle him. He does so with sharp metal objects, and it's only a matter of time (and luck for him it didn't happen already), that someone feels their life being threatened and ends up killing or severely injuring him. This can also turn that weapon waving into a weapon that can kill or severely injure the person you say you're playing with. Mike V. is trying to create a situation, and elevate situations, perhaps to say he was attacked by mountain bikers. The frustration was that things did not elevate. Anyone who doesn't get that, like him, is a threat to society.

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    mlaff,
    This bigot, and he is a bigot with a prejudice against anyone who rides a bike off road, is not just some harmless fruitcake. he does not just poke fun at mountain bikers, he sends his garbage to each and every public comment opportunity that involves mountain biking. If found guilty, he can rightfully be labeled a "terrorist" and be marginalized even more effectively. Anyone who has been personally harassed by him needs to file a report with the proper agency to increase the penalty he pays.
    "Let it go" is not the answer, now is the time to pile on as much as possible to take full advantage of the opportunity.

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    DO NOT "LET THIS GO." Being nice has got us squat, and will continue to get us squat.

    V***man has ruined our reputation with tens of thousands of people by spreading decades of lies about the impact of mountain biking (less or equal to hiking, as demonstrated by every controlled study ever done). Sure, we all know he's a kook...but there are tens of thousands of people who have seen his lies and taken them for truth because of that (useless and unrelated) Ph.D.

    We need to demonstrate that we are tired of having our freedoms curtailed by psychotic liars with an axe to grind. If you've been assaulted by him, absolutely contact Berkeley police. If you've been publicly defamed by him, absolutely join Obi.

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    I think you all are missing Berkely Mike's point: that the poster child for all that's wrong with the opposition has been caught & busted. It has nothing to do with the crime; it's all about the person. And the advice to not go overboard celebrating is good as well. I'm no fan of MJV; he was a thorn in my side in the '90s & nearly threw a monkey wrench into the project @ Water Dog Lake. Just like we admonish others to not judge all cyclists by the behavior of one, we should follow that same advice here. I'd be interested to know what Michael More thinks about this & how we should react.
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    'Let it go' is not a good idea. Addressing the issue appropriately is. We don't know that the apprehended suspect is actually Whacko PhD. There are lots of Whackos out there. Until I see his name and face in the police report, I am going to assume that it was one of his less intelligent lacky whackys.
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    Another UC Berkeley Crime log entry....

    Here is another entry from few days before the report I previously posted...

    http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05102010.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes
    Berkeley Mike: Please, PLEASE, stop making everything about you. It's about everybody here. As MTBers, we're finally getting together and staying up for ourselves instead of just thinking it's going to magically happen from someone else.

    I have printed out copies of Voldemort's website with his life of people who bike illegally, and his Facebook community of MTB poachers. I'll see what I can do to get them notarized.
    It is precisely because somone FINALLY stood up for themselves that this guy got busted.

    It is precisely because mountain bikers are non-violent and easily cowed that it took this long.

    We need to be more vocal and less afraid to report people like voldemort. Physically attacking people is much worse than mountain biking illegally. This is made patently clear with the police reports - they are going after Mike V, not the mountain biker.

    I see no harm in bolstering this new found confidence, taking pride in it and having a little fun along the way. F Mike V!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peletonnissen
    Here is another entry from few days before the report I previously posted...

    http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05102010.htm
    Josh, can you confirm with your buddy that the dude he had the run in with is Mike V?
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