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    Midpen's Bond Issue - Can / Should We Help?

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    It will be business as usual. Foothills pony housewives, Marin hysterical pseudo-environmentalists and ex-bureaucrats. And a token IMBA guy summarily ignored and ready to "be part of the process".
    You mean Peninsula hysterical pseudo-environmentalists. They live in even bigger houses, have larger carbon footprints than some counties in rural America, but drive Teslas to show they care.

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    Scofflaws and their blatant disregard for 15 MPH speed limits!!!
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    The Board appointing the "independent" committee is an oxymoron. What if the hens were allowed to appoint the foxes to watch over them? They'd appoint compliant vegetarians!

    $300m is way too much with a noncommittal "priorities list." They should be funded like a startup: $10m at a time with very specific milestones, or they find a new gig.

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    By voting no you would be saying you don't want more trails or more protected areas above (and in) the Valley. What's to be gained by that?

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    Voting "no" is not a binary decision to say "no more trails". If the measure fails, they can go back and propose a more detailed plan and budget, with lower costs for specific milestones and schedules. Operate it like a start-up, not a cushy bureaucracy that's disconnected from the hand that feeds them. Oh, and put a few pennies towards saving the iconic concrete cube!
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    We have met the enemy and he is us...

    I can't help but read this thread and think of this line from the article below

    "While the sport of mountain biking has many awesome supporters both in industry, clubs and individual volunteers, it has just as many naysayers, and obstructionists. In fact I would venture to say there is more energy spent in getting our own community to work for change than our adversaries. In many cases we are our own worst enemies."

    From: Universal Klister: Farewell Francis Maguire! Franks Last day at IMBA.

    And of course I'll be told that his opinion isn't relevant because he works for the enemy - IMBA

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    Assuming AA passes I encourage you to apply to be on the oversight committee. It would be nice to see a flood of applications from riders.
    It would have been nice to see a flood of riders at the Vision meetings, too. If we had just 10-15 more riders at 2 of the meetings I went to we would have had the majority of participants in the room.
    User groups who show up in numbers at the meetings have more say than those who don't. The hikers and equestrians learned this a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CruzSS View Post
    Assuming AA passes I encourage you to apply to be on the oversight committee. It would be nice to see a flood of applications from riders.
    It would have been nice to see a flood of riders at the Vision meetings, too. If we had just 10-15 more riders at 2 of the meetings I went to we would have had the majority of participants in the room.
    User groups who show up in numbers at the meetings have more say than those who don't. The hikers and equestrians learned this a long time ago.
    Yes! Please post the application link, when the time comes. I went to the "(we don't want to) save the Umunhum cube" meeting and got my first taste of MROSD.

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    No benefit - do you really mean that?
    Have you read this? Top 25 Future Open Space Projects
    There will be more trails for bikers, even bike-specific trails at Skeggs. Rather than blanket dismissal of the Measure I'd like to see the mountain bike community attend the meetings and contribute ideas. This will be especially important if the measure passes and the plans move into the detail phase.

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    Citizens and their lobbying arms are the oversight - it's sort of how democracy works. Sorry I can't guarantee and outcome for you but let me know where that has happened and we'll follow that model with your help.

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    The IMBA comment about working to develop support within our own community is on the money. I have been saying this for years and working much harder locally than IMBA ever has. Many local groups have and IMBA has just recently arrived in the Southland to pick up the pieces of ROMP before it simply evaporated entirely due to local apathy.

    While the Marin Bicycle Trails Council disappeared for similar reasons, A4B represents a grassroots vigor and MCBC a more formalized and civically connected energy. The BTCEB is robust as is the Sonoma group and MBoSC. We all share the conundrum of building the community and getting them to represent. The BTCEB, of the aforementioned, predates IMBA, co-founded IMBA, and have a carried on the fight for 27 years.

    We have learned many things but this is critical to understand:

    These processes will go on with or without us.

    The Measure will pass. The pile of money will appear. Getting our influence near it is the solution. That means we have to show up and be heard and do this for the years to come. Having SVMTB at the tables is a start. With continued work there will be another mtb advocate in that group. It won't happen unless someone takes this first step.

    And, no, we will not get the kinds of things we want for years to come. Yet, if we don't work now it will never happen.
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    I looked at the list and have a couple of comments/questions:

    1) the details for every list item seems to be vague. Building trails at Skegg's. Are there actual details for the proposed trails? Are any of them specific to mt biking?

    2) Introduce grazing. Is this supposed to be good? I thought that cattle grazing was a big environment no-no. Especially when compared to the impact from mt biking. Why should the public back increased grazing?

    3) Since it needs a 2/3 vote do we really think it will pass?
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    @justbob,

    Good questions. I attended 3 of the public meetings and don't recall the increased grazing. That said, the damage created by European animal farming won't be made worse. The non native flora has won. No way to get rid of star thistle, etc. Besides, locally produced cheeseburgers is very American :-)

    Yes, the plans are vague but that is good. We can work with the staff on the details. The public vision process was for high level ideation, not details. No use doing the complicated detail planning until enough people support the concepts.

    Will 2/3rds support it? I have no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbob View Post
    I looked at the list and have a couple of comments/questions:

    1) the details for every list item seems to be vague. Building trails at Skegg's. Are there actual details for the proposed trails? Are any of them specific to mt biking?

    2) Introduce grazing. Is this supposed to be good? I thought that cattle grazing was a big environment no-no. Especially when compared to the impact from mt biking. Why should the public back increased grazing?

    3) Since it needs a 2/3 vote do we really think it will pass?
    RE #1; If you don't cry at the doctor's office you'll get a lollipop.

    RE #2; Over grazing is a no-no; controlled grazing reduces the fire danger. (but cattle hooves sure can tear up a wet trail) Plus in the MROSD's original mandate they were to maintain a "green-belt" around the urban areas; green-belts are typically regarding agriculture which certainly includes grazing, dairy, etc. I sure wouldn't want to be a farmer with a lease from MROSD! (think of the restrictions)

    RE #3; If I were to make a wager; I'd bet it won't pass.
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    So my take on this:
    1) The plan is clearly an overview with some general direction for each of the 25 projects but it is not a detailed plan. In my somewhat similar profession detailed planning costs between 10-20% of the project cost so it is a pretty big chunk of money. I believe this high cost to create detailed plans is the reason MidPen developed what I will call 'conceptual plans' and will wait for Measure AA approval before doing detailed planning. This detailed planning phase is where it is most important for our community to be involved if AA passes.

    2) I didn't realize this until I got involved but MidPen currently leases to a family business Markegard Family Grass-Fed who are raising cattle near the coast in SM County. It is said to be a sustainable model similar to the 'Grass Farming' method described in the book 'Omnivore's Dilemma'. I believe they offer tours occasionally.

    3) No idea if it will pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpreston View Post
    @justbob,

    Good questions. I attended 3 of the public meetings and don't recall the increased grazing. That said, the damage created by European animal farming won't be made worse. The non native flora has won. No way to get rid of star thistle, etc. Besides, locally produced cheeseburgers is very American :-)

    Yes, the plans are vague but that is good. We can work with the staff on the details. The public vision process was for high level ideation, not details. No use doing the complicated detail planning until enough people support the concepts.

    Will 2/3rds support it? I have no clue.

    Jim
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    The Mercury News editorial board weighs in .

    Though I do use Mid-Pen lands, since I'm in south SJ, I don't get to vote on the bond measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Jose Mercury News Editorial

    Midpeninsula Open Space bond measure is a great deal

    Posted: 05/19/2014 02:49:57 PM PDT

    From Mount Umunhum and the Sierra Azul preserve in Santa Clara County to Half Moon Bay in San Mateo County, the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District has preserved nearly 62,000 acres of rural land since 1972.

    Now it has a plan for filling gaps in trail systems, conserving more habitat for wildlife and pursuing other projects that residents and taxpayers have set as priorities. But with just the parcel tax voters approved at its founding, it could accomplish the top 25 projects only slowly and at ever-increasing costs.

    So Midpen is floating its first-ever bond measure to get the work done more quickly, with careful oversight and a gradual borrowing plan to keep interest costs down.

    Measure AA's plan to borrow up to $300 million will cost property owners $1 a year per $100,000 of assessed valuation at the start, rising to a maximum of $3.18 and then declining again. Property values in the district average $700,000, so cost per average home will range from $7 to $21 a year.

    To sum it up:

    Best. Deal. Ever.

    In its early years, Midpen focused more on acquiring land than on opening it to the public. But the district now is seriously working on trails and other public-access projects people expect for the land they own.

    As for outreach to learn what residents want -- we've never seen a more thorough exploration.

    The district held many public meetings, gathered ideas and went back out and tested them again. The consensus was not just for access, although completing trail systems rated high. People also care about cleaner air and water and preserving habitat as well as coastal agriculture. Protecting redwood forests was a priority for a whopping 97 percent. (See details at openspace.org/MeasureAA)

    In San Mateo County, among the 25 projects is completing the Purisima Redwoods-to-the-Sea Trail. In Santa Clara County, public access would be assured for Mount Umunhum, the South Bay's Mount Tamalpais or Mount Diablo equivalent with The Cube, a Cold War military tower, sitting on top.

    Bond measures' benefits nearly always go beyond the people who pay the bills. Whether building schools or fixing roads, they are Californians' go-to source for the capital costs of weaving society together and creating better places. Some pretend to be money for nothing, but this one is exceptionally well planned to keep the overall debt level and interest costs down.

    Measure AA requires a two-thirds vote, which never is easy. But for literally a few dollars a year, district taxpayers can increase the desirability of homes in this region and improve the quality of life for residents and visitors for generations to come. Vote yes on June 3.

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    If the Measure AA batteries fail I won't be bummed.

    Just having a radar gun pointed at me by the MROSD on a weekly basis is enough to turn me against the measure. I hate that, and the ideology behind it.

    There's much more worth complaining about too, but I will leave it there for now.

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    The SJMN article is a #Fail! They imply the $300m will save the Umunhum Cube, which is incorrect. The Umunhum Conservancy is trying to raise $1.2m to save it because MidPen won't. I've donated to the Umunhum Conservancy.

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    Murky News has Alzheimers...

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    The SJMN article is a #Fail! They imply the $300m will save the Umunhum Cube, which is incorrect. The Umunhum Conservancy is trying to raise $1.2m to save it because MidPen won't. I've donated to the Umunhum Conservancy.
    This is what they reported in their April 24th article:

    "The measure would not pay for restoration of the cube, a former radar tower. In 2012, the district's board of directors gave the tower a temporary stay of demolition, giving supporters five years to raise the $1.2 million needed to stabilize the building. The district also pledged about $400,000 for repairs, a project that is in the planning stages, Abbors said."

    If MidPen's is feeding lies to SJMN's editorial board then what might they be feeding us??? Not implying this is happening, just a hypothetical...
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    The Umunhum Conservancy response to the Murky News. I hope it will get printed. (Sam Drake is a friend, who just bought his first MTB at age 50-something!)

    Mt. Umunhum and Measure AA | Umunhum Conservancy

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    Mt. Umunhum and Measure AA

    On Monday the 19th of May the San Jose Mercury News ran an editorial in which they urged a “yes” vote on Measure AA. Measure AA would allow the Mid-Peninsula Regional Open Space District to borrow up to $300 million, paid for by bonds.

    Measure AA funds would be used for a number of projects which are well documented on Mid-Pen’s web site. One listed project is, as the Mercury News wrote,

    “…public access would be assured for Mount Umunhum, the South Bay’s Mt. Tamalpais or Mt. Diablo equivalent with The Cube, a Cold War military tower, sitting on top.”

    It’s certainly true that Mid-Pen says that Measure AA funds would help enable a number of projects in and around Mt. Umunhum. Unfortunately saving the Radar Tower atop Mt. Umunhum is not one of them.

    In 2012 Mid-Pen’s Board decided that if the Tower was to be preserved, it would need to be funded 100% by private contributions. $1.2 million are required, no later than 2017, to spare the wrecking ball. In 2013 the Mid-Pen Board reiterated that position. Their Board has made it quite clear that if private efforts to raise funds for the Tower fall short – even by a small amount – then the Tower will be demolished.

    The Umunhum Conservancy (Umunhum Conservancy | Dedicated to preserving and restoring Mt. Umunhum and its historic Radar Tower) was founded in 2012 to answer that call, and is engaged in fundraising to preserve the Tower. We would welcome a change of heart by the Mid-Pen Board, but as of now it is quite clear that no Measure AA funds will be used to preserve the Tower.

    The Mercury News is correct, Mt. Umunhum is a jewel, and can indeed be a landmark comparable to Mt. Tamalpais or Mt. Diablo. Both of those mountains have iconic structures at their peak. We hope Mt. Umunhum still does as well, once Measure AA’s funds allow the public to visit.

    …Sam Drake, President, Umunhum Conservanc

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    Midpen's Bond Issue - Can / Should We Help?

    I'm shocked the Bay Area News Group would ever, ever print bad information ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post
    If the Measure AA batteries fail I won't be bummed.

    Just having a radar gun pointed at me by the MROSD on a weekly basis is enough to turn me against the measure. I hate that, and the ideology behind it.

    There's much more worth complaining about too, but I will leave it there for now.
    It is hard to describe and quantify the amount of ill will that this creates within the cycling community. It is to the point that when I hear the name mentioned, my stomach turns. It shouldn't be that way, and it is unfortunate that they are the entrenched agency that we're pretty much stuck with.

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    I'm shocked the Bay Area News Group would ever, ever print bad information ...
    A bit of a cheap shot there, SS Hack. I can't speak for the entire BANG, which has been expanding as of late, but as far as Merc is concerned, the quality has been pretty good over the last 20 years, especially given the tough environment that their industry has been facing as of late.

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    It is hard to describe and quantify the amount of ill will that this creates within the cycling community. It is to the point that when I hear the name mentioned, my stomach turns. It shouldn't be that way, and it is unfortunate that they are the entrenched agency that we're pretty much stuck with.



    A bit of a cheap shot there, SS Hack. I can't speak for the entire BANG, which has been expanding as of late, but as far as Merc is concerned, the quality has been pretty good over the last 20 years, especially given the tough environment that their industry has been facing as of late.

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    +1 for what's possible

    A quick note on the eve of tomorrow's election.

    Cynicism, frustration, and resentment about Midpen are completely understandable. We don't have as much access as we'd like; it's easy to take an adversarial stand.

    During their recent planning process Midpen reached out to our community for input. SVMTB responded. After a multi-year gap with limited participation from our community, our SVMTB reps are working to develop something positive and fruitful. If you haven't already, check out the posts from 'Sean SVMTB' and 'Cruz SS' in this thread. They are avid mtn bikers. They want what we want. Their comments come from direct experience interacting with Midpen leaders, formally and informally. In the face of cynicism, etc. - consider supporting the measure and seeing what can be built.

    Land managers, including Midpen, know that our user group continues to grow. That in itself gives us negotiating power. The more we can rally behind our representative advocacy group, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    A quick note on the eve of tomorrow's election.

    Cynicism, frustration, and resentment about Midpen are completely understandable.
    personally, i would have said i'm pragmatic not cynical, and perhaps dissatisfied but not particularly frustrated or resentful.


    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    If you haven't already, check out the posts from 'Sean SVMTB' and 'Cruz SS' in this thread. They are avid mtn bikers. They want what we want. Their comments come from direct experience interacting with Midpen leaders, formally and informally. In the face of cynicism, etc. - consider supporting the measure and seeing what can be built.
    i did. and i think i get the gist. but frankly when a svmtb rep like Alex retorts with a bogus logical fallacy and Sean inputs something about an Independent Citizens' Oversight Committee safeguarding that our money won't be used for teacher salaries it's hard to put much faith in their capacity. sorry guys, not intended as a personal attack, but it's my sincere hope y'all can do better.

    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    Land managers, including Midpen, know that our user group continues to grow. That in itself gives us negotiating power. The more we can rally behind our representative advocacy group, the better.
    as far as gaining negotiating power, i don't think that's typically done by agreeing to increase the tax burden for you, your neighbors, and the next generation of property owners before a binding arraignment is actually made.

    but again, that's just me. maybe i'm just being too sensible and realistic...

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    The Murky News had this in its Monday the 23rd edition; Measure AA seeks $300M in bonds for open space, trails, forests - San Jose Mercury News I was a bit too swamped with an upcoming weekend project at Coe to then make timely comment here.

    I found it to be rather informative, reminded me about how bonds work which is something I had mostly forgotten since HS civics classes.

    Actually let both the pro/con advocates have their say which was a nice balance to the pro-bond editorials they've been running.

    If true, the bond monies will only go to those 25 projects, not MidPen's day-to-day (like radar guns).

    But still very ill-defined; "shovel ready" projects will be the first to be funded.

    Who decides what's "shovel ready"? Oversight Committee?

    I'll betchya that like always the MidPen bureaucracy and the rubber stamp BOD has already stacked the deck. The tail wags the dog...
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    How ironic...

    Have a look a the photo accompanying this Sf Gate article: Supporters need rally for parks funding measure - Tom Stienstra's Outdoors



    Here's my posted comment:
    "Notice the half green grass/half forested hill in the left of the picture accompanying this article; that's Mindego Hill, part of MidPen's lands. Mountain bikes will never be allowed there due to MidPen's junk science. (Hikers and horses come on up!) And MidPen wants MTBer support? Right some old wrongs and then ask us again."

    I could have also mentioned that the biker in the photo is riding to the side of the trail to avoid a rut indicative of a trail not properly designed or maintained; I'll leave that for somebody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    If true, the bond monies will only go to those 25 projects.
    $300M + interest? For that? Until they hire another quack with snake protection theories?

    I hope it failed.

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    The projects were worded in such vague, double-speakish terms I'm not sure what I'm supporting. Yeah, I really do want to support open space, and hiking and biking opportunities and trail maintenance, but I don't care about visitors' centers. cattle grazing, "model" farms, etc. It all seems suspiciously skewed toward AG. I don't want midpen parks to be like east bay parks.
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    MidPen held many public meetings to get input on the goals and objectives. They also had online input process. I encouraged everyone to participate quite strongly on the forum here over the last year or so. Some did. I followed this public input and it was fairly translated into the goals that were set before the board, and now the voters.

    Bikers were slightly less than half of the people at the meetings, and thus our input was mitigated. Still, many pro-biking projects were pushed forward. If anything, MidPen used their bias to push more of the biking projects that didn't make the cut.

    The meetings and literature that was handed out make it clear which projects were bike oriented by the Multi Use Trail emblem with a bike on it, as well as some more description in the summary. Most of the new projects had this, but not all. They also gave a two paragraph description with a summary of each project, with a lot more detail on their thinking at the meetings. I suspect they don't want to go into much more as the details are indeed still dependent on planning. I don't think there's any sinister plan to exclude bikes from what I see.

    The Mindigo Hill decision does look to be an overly conservative conclusion by biologists and staff, but not necessarily anti-bike other than that. I have not been able to get MidPen to explain the decision in more detail past a certain point, with them providing evidence of snake destruction by biking in the area by documented reports, and the federal law demanding zero loss for this ultra-protected snake. They proposed some compensating trails for biking, but I haven't got a response from MidPen on when and where that will occur. That may have been a noble desire stated on their memos, but lost in the implementation.

    So yes, it's a mixed bag. But in the sum, we get a lot more access and a lot more biking trails as a result. Right in the first line of the bond measure, it mentions "access" and "biking". The details were presented to the extent anyone wants to read, and were provided as link is the other long threads on this matter.

    MidPen is in charge and will stay that way. Not voting for this will certainly give us less trails and longer time spans for development. One can whine about not getting everything desired, but they indeed followed input at the public meetings, as they should.
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    But in the sum, we get a lot more access and a lot more biking trails.
    In the last twenty years all we had been getting is less access. I see zero evidence that after the theater of "public input" to drum up more taxes, they will all of a sudden change course. They will just have more money for enforcement, more money to hire sellout environmental "experts", more equestrian parking lots. Why would they do anything differently? Out of good will?

    You really defend Mindego hill?

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    Not buying it. More shitty trails for MP rangers to flex their radar gun muscles. Give us a couple MTB only trail with features, built by MTB riders, then I'll be interested. Yeah, no.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Are the election results in already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    Are the election results in already?
    With only the mail-in results showing it's barely passing with 67.49%
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    Midpen's Bond Issue - Can / Should We Help?

    66.76% in today's newspaper. Dang, should have went to vote NO. Would be annoying if IMBA support is what pushed the last hundred votes needed. Just 50k votes overall.

    They spent a million dollars on a campaign and another million on this fake public input project. How much flow trail at Demo costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtvert View Post
    ^^ The flow trail has a budget of 100K.
    So they could have built 20 flow trails, one per each preserve where they prohibit biking now, just for the money they have spent to push this tax hike through.

    What we will get is a new equestrian parking lot and several new closures to protect newts that they just found out of normal range half a mile from a trail.

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    Well, in light of this potential result...

    Midpen is the best! I love Midpen! I'll never go over 15 MPH again! They are so generous and great (and cute, OMG!) Hey new best friend! Can we make some fun mountain biking trails with all your new money!? Call me!!!
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    It passed, by a few dozen votes. What a squeaker.
    Measure AA wins by .1 percent for Open Space - Tom Stienstra's Outdoors

    I'm glad I dragged myself to the polls at 7:30 last night, just to vote for measure AA.

    For those opposed who didn't vote: it had to pass by two-thirds, so your NO vote would have cancelled two YES votes. Voting matters, sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Well, in light of this potential result...

    Midpen is the best! I love Midpen! I'll never go over 15 MPH again! They are so generous and great (and cute, OMG!) Hey new best friend! Can we make some fun mountain biking trails with all your new money!? Call me!!!
    ^^^+++

    In some ways I'm glad it passed; but if I could have voted it would have been a "NO" out of principle. Guess we should come back in a year and revisit the topic.
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    Well, in light of this potential result...

    Midpen is the best! I love Midpen! I'll never go over 15 MPH again! They are so generous and great (and cute, OMG!) Hey new best friend! Can we make some fun mountain biking trails with all your new money!? Call me!!!
    you're a known scofflaw and they won't let you anywhere near the ICOC.

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    *** fast forward 5 years ***

    MidPen parks still suck for mountain bikers. Essentially nothing has changed, there are merely more trails we don't get to ride on, and drones have replaced rangers for speed enforcement (although they are friendlier). And the Mt. Umunhum/Hummer equine/auto center is a big success (I really hope I'm wrong).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtvert View Post
    *** fast forward 5 years ***

    MidPen parks still suck for mountain bikers. Essentially nothing has changed, there are merely more trails we don't get to ride on, and drones have replaced rangers for speed enforcement (although they are friendlier). And the Mt. Umunhum/Hummer equine/auto center is a big success (I really hope I'm wrong).

    Be careful what you wish for!
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    Dang.

    So IMBA campaigned for it, and if those dozen votes was what it takes - will see if they apologize in 10 years when absolutely nothing of interest had been done for us and half a billion dollars (with interest) are wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    at least they kept the cube tower!
    Actually the bond measure specifically WILL NOT be used to preserve the tower.

    MROSD still wants it gone in the worst way... (they're giving a group a few years to come up with the funding to shore it up---if that fails it's "curtains")

    But seeing your death-ray graphic leads me to propose that the cube become a shrine to all those LEO's whose job it is to use radar. Maybe that way MidPen will see it fit to keep the structure!?!?
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    I'm glad it passed too. I was one of the dozen votes to lift it over the 2/3 threshold and will be paying a little more in my property tax bill. I'm sure going to try to use that to talk myself out of a future ticket in MidPen: "My vote got you $300mil already and now you want to fine me for riding down this fun trail?"
    Let's keep our presence up in Midpen board meetings and continue to work on more access. Even Singapore has a one-way really fun 4 mile MTB loop through a local nature reserve. There were no hikers on it, they had their own path to the look-out on top. Why can't we have those somewhere on MidPen's land?
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    If it's that close I would not be surprised that a recount is requested.
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    Just so you all know 52% of the $300 million is earmarked for purchase of new lands. They never told you this, they hid it under "protect and preserve redwood forests, natural open spaces", as stated on the ballot. If think MidPen is going to work with the bikers you are dreaming, you better be at all their meetings to keep the preasure on them to get what you want.
    As far as increase in your property tax bill, remember this, all the land that MidPen ownes comes off the tax rolls unless it is being rented out and they own 27,000 plus acres in San Mateo county alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiemtb View Post
    Just so you all know 52% of the $300 million is earmarked for purchase of new lands. They never told you this, they hid it under "protect and preserve redwood forests, natural open spaces", as stated on the ballot. If think MidPen is going to work with the bikers you are dreaming, you better be at all their meetings to keep the preasure on them to get what you want.
    As far as increase in your property tax bill, remember this, all the land that MidPen ownes comes off the tax rolls unless it is being rented out and they own 27,000 plus acres in San Mateo county alone.
    The good news is that if Midpen screws us, it's only going to be 30 years before we have a say in the matter. At this point, we just need to hope for the best and find new board members to elect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gddyap View Post
    How do they choose the members of the independent oversight committee?
    You need to own a horse and live in one of the foothills communities and be a member of Sierra Club. They will call you.

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    $s

    jeez guys - pretty depressing comments.

    a few notes related to $s...

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    So they could have built 20 flow trails, one per each preserve where they prohibit biking now, just for the money they have spent to push this tax hike through.
    fwiw a separate group campaigned and raised funds for it - not midpen.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMass View Post
    Any of us who ride in the open spaces already supports Midpen financially. Who else gets $400 fines from Midpen?
    I got curious; here's what I learned:

    For every ticket there's a part called "bail" that Midpen sets. A speed limit violation has $75 bail. Then there's a heap of fees from the court system: $75 bail becomes a $350 fine. The $275 diff goes to the county, state, etc. One could go off onto a tangent about that, but... net-net, fines aren't generating revenue to buy new land or develop trails; I doubt they're even offsetting midpen's costs.

    Are the fines necessary? They obviously think so. Hmm, I wonder why.

    Here are stats for accidents on Midpen lands in 2013:
    36 bicycle accidents
    26 other medical incidents
    18 pedestrian/running accidents
    11 vehicle accidents
    8 wildland fires
    7 lost persons searches
    8 fatalities
    7 animal incidents
    2 equestrian accidents

    & it's not just us getting tickets. Some stats for 2013:
    Bike - closed area: 62, speed: 90, helmet: 12, night riding: 39, unsafe operation: 6
    Dogs - prohibited: 138, off leash: 245
    Off road vehicle: 17
    Closed area: 185
    After hours: 274
    Vandalism: 32
    Parking: 162, parking after hours: 455

    Here are some pricey fines not related to biking (bail & total fine):
    - harvesting/planting without permission ($100, $452)
    - dangerous dog ($100, $452)
    - unpermitted large event ($150, $654)
    - reckless driving ($150, $654)
    - entering a sensitive closed area ($250, $1056)
    - obstructing free passage ($250, $1056)
    - harmful substance ($250, $1056)

    I'm not here to defend Midpen. I too would like to see bike-dedicated technical trails/areas. But that isn't Midpen's main charter. If their approach seems inane, look a little deeper at the challenges they face and see if you can come up with better ideas that work from a bigger perspective. Let us know what you come up with; I'd love to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    & it's not just us getting tickets. Some stats for 2013:
    Bike - closed area: 62, speed: 90, helmet: 12, night riding: 39, unsafe operation: 6
    Dogs - prohibited: 138, off leash: 245
    Off road vehicle: 17
    Closed area: 185
    After hours: 274
    Vandalism: 32
    Parking: 162, parking after hours: 455
    gotta love the irony that the "open space" gives out tickets for being in a "closed space"

    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    If their approach seems inane, look a little deeper at the challenges they face and see if you can come up with better ideas that work from a bigger perspective. Let us know what you come up with; I'd love to hear.
    i would love a $300M bankroll. i'll provide details on my plan as soon as the check clears...

    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    jeez guys - pretty depressing comments.
    i know, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    better ideas that work from a bigger perspective. Let us know what you come up with; I'd love to hear.
    What are those challenges and why do they need half a billion dollars of our money for them? So far they buy up land and sit on it. That is a good idea. A better idea is to also build trails and let us use our land for recreation. There is nothing magical or complicated about it, and their current revenue stream would have been perfectly adequate for that. But just as any bureaucracy it just tends to grow for its own sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    But that isn't Midpen's main charter.
    When Midpen was founded and funded it was called "Midpeninsula Regional Park District". Then they played one on us and removed the "Park" part. Damn well providing recreational opportunities was in their founding charter. But just as any bureaucracy, they deliver less than they promised.

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    Part of MROSD's organization arsenal which they seem to be lacking is better utilization, organization, and appreciation of volunteers. We can spend all our free time organizing the best volunteer trail-building/maintenance organization that anyone has seen in all of the country, but it's a complete waste of effort if the land agency prefers to just bulldoze the trails. I see that there are a few individuals really working hard on the user side of the relationship, and they need more help. But if we did have a strong volunteer org AND a reciprocal relationship with an agency that understands the community and desires to work with us, then we can get so much more accomplished for less $. A corollary to that is entertain the possibility of teaming up with the equestrian groups and hikers, (see SLO... CCCMB), not presenting ourselves to MROSD as conflicting interest groups. Secondly, how about a more grassroots fundraising effort, like crowdsourcing, for each special, very specific project plan vs. asking to take on a HUGE chunk of debt for some vaguely outlined goals that have to be paid back with interest over many years? The advantage of crowdsourcing specific projects is that if the project has no supporters in the public willing to put their $ and/or time on the line to support that project - then it doesn't get built. Instant accountability. No need for expensive, feel-good consultant to solicit vague opinions on really vague concepts like "quiet enjoyment of nature"... Why do you need $300 million bucks for quiet enjoyment of nature? What you need that kind of $ for is more visitors' centers, more parking lots, more development within the parks, which I think most people would be opposed to. MRSOD basic operations can and should be taken care of by a public commitment in terms of regular tax money. But for the extra icing projects on the cake, let's crowdsource them, pay for them up front, and not incur all of this needless debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post

    Here are some pricey fines not related to biking (bail & total fine):

    - unpermitted large event ($150, $654)
    I'm not sure how long this has been on the books, but why do I feel like this might as well say, "Turkey day ride"?

    Anyone know of any other "unpermitted" large events that have taken place over the years? Any crazy raves in the gap parking lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post

    I got curious; here's what I learned:

    For every ticket there's a part called "bail" that Midpen sets. A speed limit violation has $75 bail. Then there's a heap of fees from the court system: $75 bail becomes a $350 fine. The $275 diff goes to the county, state, etc. One could go off onto a tangent about that, but... net-net, fines aren't generating revenue to buy new land or develop trails; I doubt they're even offsetting midpen's costs.

    Are the fines necessary? They obviously think so. Hmm, I wonder why.

    Here are stats for accidents on Midpen lands in 2013:
    36 bicycle accidents
    26 other medical incidents
    18 pedestrian/running accidents
    11 vehicle accidents
    8 wildland fires
    7 lost persons searches
    8 fatalities
    7 animal incidents
    2 equestrian accidents

    & it's not just us getting tickets. Some stats for 2013:
    Bike - closed area: 62, speed: 90, helmet: 12, night riding: 39, unsafe operation: 6
    Dogs - prohibited: 138, off leash: 245
    Off road vehicle: 17
    Closed area: 185
    After hours: 274
    Vandalism: 32
    Parking: 162, parking after hours: 455

    Here are some pricey fines not related to biking (bail & total fine):
    - harvesting/planting without permission ($100, $452)
    - dangerous dog ($100, $452)
    - unpermitted large event ($150, $654)
    - reckless driving ($150, $654)
    - entering a sensitive closed area ($250, $1056)
    - obstructing free passage ($250, $1056)
    - harmful substance ($250, $1056)

    I'm not here to defend Midpen. I too would like to see bike-dedicated technical trails/areas. But that isn't Midpen's main charter. If their approach seems inane, look a little deeper at the challenges they face and see if you can come up with better ideas that work from a bigger perspective. Let us know what you come up with; I'd love to hear.
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    Yesterday I saw JL in Fremont Older. In contrast to me, he voted for the measure.

    Ten years ago, I would have been an advocate for this.

    Yet I do congratulate the district on the win, and hope that the money will be well spent. I expect more land acquisition and regional multi-use trail from my share of the tax. The results of the planning sessions make these goals a priority.

    For decades I ride an hike in the district at least a few times a week. The benefit is one I value. It is tangible.

    Just ditch the radar, open more trails to bikes, and keep it low key. I am not asking for jumps and technical trails. I seek natural terrain to ride on, and a place to contact Earth and the heavens. Less BS, please.

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    Nice to hear from Midpen that AA passed - barely. LOTS of planning left to do but I've heard from inside that they understand the role of MTB. Support from MTBers is the only reason it passed. :-)


    If you want to stop radar guns then convince hikers and equestrians they aren't necessary. Don't pick on the rangers who have to deal with them - you deal with the other trail users if you want change.

    15 mph means less injuries for rangers to respond to and less user conflicts. Amazing, just like speed limits on roads. What a surprise.

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    ^^ It's official: The Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well in the MidPen!

    We get the trails--and speed limits--that we deserve...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    Actually the bond measure specifically WILL NOT be used to preserve the tower.

    MROSD still wants it gone in the worst way... (they're giving a group a few years to come up with the funding to shore it up---if that fails it's "curtains")

    But seeing your death-ray graphic leads me to propose that the cube become a shrine to all those LEO's whose job it is to use radar. Maybe that way MidPen will see it fit to keep the structure!?!?
    $300M, in addition to their annual take of over $25M, is a bit much without clearly defined milestones. Yeah, and about that cube, a good friend is the head of Umunhum Conservancy | Dedicated to preserving and restoring Mt. Umunhum and its historic Radar Tower and I have donated. I voted "no" on AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpreston View Post
    Nice to hear from Midpen that AA passed - barely. LOTS of planning left to do but I've heard from inside that they understand the role of MTB. Support from MTBers is the only reason it passed. :-)


    If you want to stop radar guns then convince hikers and equestrians they aren't necessary. Don't pick on the rangers who have to deal with them - you deal with the other trail users if you want change.

    15 mph means less injuries for rangers to respond to and less user conflicts. Amazing, just like speed limits on roads. What a surprise.

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    Now that the foreplay is over...well, you know what comes next.

    The rational expectation is more of the same old lame.

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    Article in today's Merc says AA passed with 68.7% of the vote. It passed by only 1488 votes.
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    I'm so glad measure AA passed. Here are some new trails to look forward to:
    Purisima to the Sea trail - multi-use
    El Corte de Madero - Ridge trail - hiking/biking trails
    La Honda - hiking/biking trails
    Windy Hill - increase multi-use trails
    Stevens Creek Trail - middle section (under 280 and Stevens Creek Blvd) and extension through Pichetti as multi-use trail
    New trails to connect Big Basin to Butano, Portola, Russian Ridge and Skyline.
    Saratoga to the Sea trail
    Even if many of these will be 6 feet wide multi-use trails, it still will be nice to have all these extra trails. Let's hope it's not going to take 10 years to get these build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    Even if many of these will be 6 feet wide multi-use trails, it still will be nice to have all these extra trails. Let's hope it's not going to take 10 years to get these build.
    Sorry to be a PITA. but NONE of these are committed projects and none have schedules. If they were a Silicon Valley start-up they'd get $10M at a time with very specific goals and milestones. A huge wad of cash (in addition to their regular $25M+ annual operating budget) and a fuzzy "priority list" ensures business as usual. I look forward to learning how the independent oversight group will be determined and how one of us might be nominated or selected. if someone finds out, please post it here!

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    I am not sure when some of us are going to learn that this is how these large districts, in response to a community much larger than mtb, work. As a portion of the general voting population we don't add up to much. In the end, though, to make the philosophical changes in these Park folk takes generations; literally.

    At the work table, at meetings, our influence can be much greater. It takes countless hours of influence and interaction. There are very few short-term gains of the type most of us want. We'd rather be riding. So, few want to do that work. It is pretty much the same with trail work but that is another forum.
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    It looks like Measure AA may have loss, yesterday the vote stood at 66.28% yes/33.72% no, they needed 66.33% yes. I would suspect there will be a recount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiemtb View Post
    It looks like Measure AA may have loss, yesterday the vote stood at 66.28% yes/33.72% no, they needed 66.33% yes. I would suspect there will be a recount.
    Maybe you're looking at San Mateo's votes. The district also includes parts of Santa Clara County and a tiny bit of Santa Cruz County too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiemtb View Post
    they needed 66.33% yes.
    66.67% is not it?

    I am disappointed with IMBA supporting it. Will not be renewing my membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    Maybe you're looking at San Mateo's votes. The district also includes parts of Santa Clara County and a tiny bit of Santa Cruz County too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    I am disappointed with IMBA supporting it. Will not be renewing my membership.
    If Midpen surprises you and adds some new mtb-accessible mileage through our local efforts, &/or if IMBA generates results you appreciate in other areas, I hope you'll be as willing to change your mind in the other direction and re-up.

    Speaking of IMBA: if y'all know someone who's passionate about adding mtb access around here and would be great at local advocacy, they're looking for a new northern cal director (Tom Ward's replacement): https://www.imba.com/norcal-region-director

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    Quote Originally Posted by karld View Post
    ...I look forward to learning how the independent oversight group will be determined and how one of us might be nominated or selected. if someone finds out, please post it here!
    Midpen is creating a Measure AA implementation process email list. See this page to subscribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkgeo View Post
    Midpen is creating a Measure AA implementation process email list. See this page to subscribe.
    Done! Thank you!

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    How the heck is this "oversight" committee selected? I would not mind to be on it.

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    BTW.. on the website, the bond measure says:

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    Ballot Language, as approved by the voters
    To improve access to hiking and biking opportunities,...
    There is nothing about improving equestrian opportunities, only hiking and biking. If they create a single equestrian new trail that is not open to biking using AA money, they should be sued. It is not authorized by voters.

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    Prioritization Criteria for Measure AA Projects

    This might warrant a new thread in itself, but for now...
    There was considerable discussion and concern on this thread about Measure AA project prioritization and implementation. Here's an opportunity to be involved. Interested?

    Prioritization Criteria for Measure AA Projects
    Special Meeting - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 5:00 p.m.

    At the Board of Directors meeting on Wednesday, September 10 the Board will consider the draft prioritization criteria and screening methodology for Measure AA projects; discuss any suggested revisions, additions, and weighting; and receive public input.
    The meeting agenda can be downloaded here.

    SPECIAL AND REGULAR MEETING
    BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE
    MIDPENINSULA REGIONAL OPEN SPACE DISTRICT
    Los Altos Youth Center
    1 North San Antonio Road
    Los Altos, CA 94022

    Wednesday, September 10, 2014
    Special Meeting begins at 5:00 (Regular Meeting begins at 7:00)

    Agendas, reports, and minutes for all other District board meetings are also posted online.

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    Charlie and I from SVMTB have been attending the board meetings and it would be great to see other mountain bikers attend. It's important that we all follow this.

    Thanks for posting,

    Alex

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    Yes, very key to keep the heat+light of scrutiny on the ad hoc committee to reflect the public outreach results b4 measure AA was approved by us (many of us) voters .
    Quote from agenda of Sept 10-5pm mtng:

    Steve Abbors, General Manager
    General Manager’s Recommendation:
    "Approve the Board President’s appointment of Cecily
    Harris, Larry Hassett, and Yoriko Kishimoto to serve on the Measure
    AA Implementation Ad Hoc Committee"


    These are the same 3 (Hasset,Yoriko+Cecily)that made up the Mindego Hill trails use ad hoc committee that voted to ban mt bike riding from Mindego Hill fire-road(albeit a split vote w Cecily being the only board member to vote nay on the bike ban due to the ban singling out mt bikers as potentially harming endangered species and not others).
    Yoriko billed herself as a cycling advocate when she was appointed to the board,it's past time she started reflecting it in her voting record.
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    I would love to participate more but don't live in the district now. Used to and intend to again but we need voter participation.

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    I plan to be there on Wednesday and will provide feedback

    Thanks

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    Please come to the MidPen Measure AA implementation meetings

    All - At the meetings I've attended recently MidPen has made clear that they want to implement Measure AA quickly. This doesn't mean all 25 projects will be implemented right away. They will prioritize projects based on criteria to be discussed at the meeting on Wednesday September 10. You might want to read the agenda and either attend the meeting to comment or email your comments to the board. There is a link on the September 10 agenda to the recommended weightings to prioritize projects.

    There were only 2 people other than me from the public who commented at the last meeting. It would make an impact if you wrote emails saying 'I want more trails to ride on' or came and made a similar statement. We only need a few people doing this AT EVERY MEETING to make an impression. If you can't attend I understand but please let the board know your position.

    Agendas and meeting dates are here Openspace.org - About Us - Agendas, Minutes + Reports

    Thanks,

    Alex

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    Midpen's Bond Issue - Can / Should We Help?

    Quote Originally Posted by CruzSS View Post
    All - At the meetings I've attended recently MidPen has made clear that they want to implement Measure AA quickly. This doesn't mean all 25 projects will be implemented right away. They will prioritize projects based on criteria to be discussed at the meeting on Wednesday September 10. You might want to read the agenda and either attend the meeting to comment or email your comments to the board. There is a link on the September 10 agenda to the recommended weightings to prioritize projects.

    There were only 2 people other than me from the public who commented at the last meeting. It would make an impact if you wrote emails saying 'I want more trails to ride on' or came and made a similar statement. We only need a few people doing this AT EVERY MEETING to make an impression. If you can't attend I understand but please let the board know your position.

    Agendas and meeting dates are here Openspace.org - About Us - Agendas, Minutes + Reports

    Thanks,

    Alex
    5pm at Los Altos on a workday. I wish I could attend.

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    The MROSD is now accepting applications...

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    How the heck is this "oversight" committee selected? I would not mind to be on it.

    Measure AA Oversight Committee | Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District

    "The Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District is currently accepting applications from qualified individuals interested in serving on the Measure AA Bond Oversight Committee. The Oversight Committee is essential to implementing Measure AA and will consist of seven at-large members who reside within the District. The Committee is expected to convene at least once a year and take the time required to thoroughly review annual Measure AA expenditures and Midpen’s Annual Audit and Accountability report. Each year, the Committee’s findings will be presented to the Board at a public meeting and will be posted on the District’s website. Applications are due on Friday, December 11 at 5:00 p.m.

    Midpen seeks individuals to serve on the Oversight Committee who are committed to transparency, accountability, and provide oversight for all Measure AA funds collected and expended. Members of the Oversight Committee MUST be residents living within Midpen’s jurisdiction, which includes the cities of Atherton, Cupertino, East Palo Alto, El Granada, Half Moon Bay, La Honda, Loma Mar, Los Gatos, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Menlo Park, Montara, Monte Sereno, Moss Beach, Mountain View, Palo Alto, Pescadero, Portola Valley, Redwood City, San Carlos, San Gregorio, Saratoga, Stanford, Sunnyvale, and Woodside.

    The Committee is appointed by the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District’s Board of Directors pursuant to Measure AA to ensure accountability, transparency, and public oversight of all funds collected and allocated under Measure AA.

    The Expenditure Plan approved as part of Measure AA defines the Committee’s roles and responsibilities as follows:

    • Review Plan expenditures on an annual basis to verify conformity with the Expenditure Plan.
    • Review District’s Annual Audit and Annual Accountability report and present the Committee’s findings to the Board at a public meeting.
    • Review any proposed amendments to the Expenditure Plan.

    The Committee does not oversee any other District financial information nor does it set policy or provide input or direction on projects, budgets, work plans, or financial matters pertaining to other District funds. All actions, including decision about selecting projects for funding, will be made by the Board in public meetings."

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    I am applying. Wish me luck! (Yes, the selection process is mysterious, AFAIK.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by karld View Post
    I am applying. Wish me luck! (Yes, the selection process is mysterious, AFAIK.)
    Awesome!

    ///Charlie


    p.s. Axe, btw, I wasn't meaning to single-out you, just used your post as a lead-in to this development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Measure AA Oversight Committee | Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District

    "The Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District is currently accepting applications from qualified individuals interested in serving on the Measure AA Bond Oversight Committee. The Oversight Committee is essential to implementing Measure AA and will consist of seven at-large members who reside within the District. The Committee is expected to convene at least once a year and take the time required to thoroughly review annual Measure AA expenditures and Midpen’s Annual Audit and Accountability report. Each year, the Committee’s findings will be presented to the Board at a public meeting and will be posted on the District’s website. Applications are due on Friday, December 11 at 5:00 p.m.

    Midpen seeks individuals to serve on the Oversight Committee who are committed to transparency, accountability, and provide oversight for all Measure AA funds collected and expended. Members of the Oversight Committee MUST be residents living within Midpen’s jurisdiction, which includes the cities of Atherton, Cupertino, East Palo Alto, El Granada, Half Moon Bay, La Honda, Loma Mar, Los Gatos, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Menlo Park, Montara, Monte Sereno, Moss Beach, Mountain View, Palo Alto, Pescadero, Portola Valley, Redwood City, San Carlos, San Gregorio, Saratoga, Stanford, Sunnyvale, and Woodside.

    The Committee is appointed by the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District’s Board of Directors pursuant to Measure AA to ensure accountability, transparency, and public oversight of all funds collected and allocated under Measure AA.

    The Expenditure Plan approved as part of Measure AA defines the Committee’s roles and responsibilities as follows:

    • Review Plan expenditures on an annual basis to verify conformity with the Expenditure Plan.
    • Review District’s Annual Audit and Annual Accountability report and present the Committee’s findings to the Board at a public meeting.
    • Review any proposed amendments to the Expenditure Plan.

    The Committee does not oversee any other District financial information nor does it set policy or provide input or direction on projects, budgets, work plans, or financial matters pertaining to other District funds. All actions, including decision about selecting projects for funding, will be made by the Board in public meetings."
    The Oversight Committee has no teeth. The Board's gonna' do what the Board's gonna' do; the Oversight Committee will only provide evidence that there may have been some derision.

    Quote Originally Posted by karld View Post
    I am applying. Wish me luck! (Yes, the selection process is mysterious, AFAIK.)
    I applaud Karl in making the effort; I wouldn't have bothered reading the application if not for his involvement.

    Like most things MidPen does I'm dubious of the outcome; I hope Karl gets appointed to prove me wrong.
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    Application is in!

    My application is in. I received an automated reply that interviews will be scheduled in January. I hope they value MROSD multi-sport (hiking, cycling and I know some horse owners) users and Silicon Valley Marketing Managers over Accountants and people with prior board or oversight experience!

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    Anxiously (actually, I "just remembered") awaiting my being contacted for an interview...actually I have no idea if everybody gets called in, or only the preferred applicants.

    Quote Originally Posted by karld View Post
    My application is in. I received an automated reply that interviews will be scheduled in January. I hope they value MROSD multi-sport (hiking, cycling and I know some horse owners) users and Silicon Valley Marketing Managers over Accountants and people with prior board or oversight experience!

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    Does this mean that Midpen management or board selects those who can run for the board?
    MTB blog for intermediates: http://intermediatemtb.com. Trail analysis videos, bike and component reviews, other stuff.

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    This is rigged just like all government boards - better know the right people to get on.

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