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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkrameroy
    This is the way the road low-key hill climb series does it. You get a number on a little sticker, slap it on your stem, and at the top make sure to yell it out. Seems to work pretty well for that series.

    I should be there this year, although helping out with the timing/cheering section almost sounds more fun than having Menso whoop me by 10 minutes.
    It aint that simple folks. The Kings of Kennedy is one that you ride and spectate the Kings finish at the same time. Since we don't have volunteers to purely do timing, we needed to send some folks up in early waves, but that their times also counted. Their times also had to be in complete sync with the last wave. Since the organizer also wanted to ride and see the finish, but he wasn't the fastest rider of the day, someone had to send off the last/fastest heat, with the time sync'd to the very first person that started over 1 hr ago.
    This would be really easy if Menso or Clark were the organizer. Menso can then start the 1:15 climbers, and 45 mins later, start the Kings heat. That way, all the riders should be up at the top to cheer on the Kings across the line.
    A variant of last years timing scheme would work well. Name tags with numbers as suggested would close the gap of issues we had (arbitrary riders getting timed but didn't start in official heats). This year, no tag, no time, no official heat start. Also, we can take pics of each finisher at the tree, and look at the time stamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    It aint that simple folks. The Kings of Kennedy is one that you ride and spectate the Kings finish at the same time. Since we don't have volunteers to purely do timing, we needed to send some folks up in early waves, but that their times also counted. Their times also had to be in complete sync with the last wave. Since the organizer also wanted to ride and see the finish, but he wasn't the fastest rider of the day, someone had to send off the last/fastest heat, with the time sync'd to the very first person that started over 1 hr ago.
    This would be really easy if Menso or Clark were the organizer. Menso can then start the 1:15 climbers, and 45 mins later, start the Kings heat. That way, all the riders should be up at the top to cheer on the Kings across the line.
    A variant of last years timing scheme would work well. Name tags with numbers as suggested would close the gap of issues we had (arbitrary riders getting timed but didn't start in official heats). This year, no tag, no time, no official heat start. Also, we can take pics of each finisher at the tree, and look at the time stamp.
    Get back to your honeymoon Rensho!

    I would suggest two start times:
    Over 35 minute climbers - 9am
    Sub 35 minute climbers - 9:15

    That way we have rabbits to chase and we can spectate while riding, etc. Congestion is not a problem anyway.

    Too many waves of riders starting at different times is not needed.

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    Who's riding SS and what gear combo? I'm going from a 32T to 33T crankset tonight, with the rear currently at 18T. I might grab a 19T just to lessen the pain!

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    One bike, one gear ratio, and no tool to change: 32/17.

    I made it up in 50 minutes this weekend. That's 3 minutes worse than last year but I've already started riding more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisket
    One bike, one gear ratio, and no tool to change: 32/17.

    I made it up in 50 minutes this weekend. That's 3 minutes worse than last year but I've already started riding more.

    Ali
    I've been considering this for a while now, but I'm not sure I'm ready for SS Kennedy.
    Do you think 32/20 is doable for regular human people?

    Are you coming on Wed?
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    Zen...I did it on my SS the first time I rode Kennedy and I believe I did it in 53 min. It had a 32/19 at the time...so 32/20 is definently doable for "human's"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cableguy46
    Zen...I did it on my SS the first time I rode Kennedy and I believe I did it in 53 min. It had a 32/19 at the time...so 32/20 is definently doable for "human's"
    Hmm, not sure I'd list you among 'humans' but at this point the only way to find out is to give it a shot. I'm new to SS and right now just using it for commuting (with a big 36/16) and it's growing on me. I guess I'll hit something easier before heading to Kennedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisket
    One bike, one gear ratio, and no tool to change: 32/17.

    I made it up in 50 minutes this weekend. That's 3 minutes worse than last year but I've already started riding more.

    Ali
    I always forget to run the timer when I do Kennedy. The clock starts at the porta-potty at the Kennedy trailhead and stops at the {finish line that nobody can't agree on}, right?

    50 minutes. I'll use that as a starting point, then come back on here and brag if I can beat it.

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    SS'ing eh? That's awesome! What bike did you get? 26 or 29?

    cableguy46 is right: 32/20 should be pretty good on a 26" bike.

    I can't make it to Kennedy this Wednesday, but I am riding Tuesday and Wednesday mornings. Wednesday will be an easy ride though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biking Brazilian
    the {finish line that nobody can't agree on}, right?
    The finish is the tree that's at the center of this map:

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...01969&t=h&z=19

    You can zoom out to see that it's about 150 meters before the intersection where the mtbr had their table at the Turkey Ride.

    "The wall" climbs from north to south (top to bottom in the map). As soon as the wall ends, it makes a left hand turn and the tree is right at that point on the left. (Left when hiking up; right on the map above.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisket
    The finish is the tree that's at the center of this map:

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...01969&t=h&z=19

    You can zoom out to see that it's about 150 meters before the intersection where the mtbr had their table at the Turkey Ride.

    "The wall" climbs from north to south (top to bottom in the map). As soon as the wall ends, it makes a left hand turn and the tree is right at that point on the left. (Left when hiking up; right on the map above.)

    Ali
    I know the tree, and I believe you. But apparently the 500 posts up above didn't. Just making sure.

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    Heck Zen, you the man...just "grab it and growl"...you can do it, if not a little walking never killed anyone, just a slow steady "grind"...looking forward to reading about the experience...

    Ed

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    Not Sure

    How fast I can climb Kennedy right now, less than 45 minutes probably. On an SS I could probably hit 45 minutes but I bet I would be slower in anything less than a 35/22. I would say, for me, a 32/20 or even 32/21, would be quite a bit faster than a 32/18 or 32/19. That's on a 26 " wheel. I think I would be walking most of the way in a 32/17. I am climbing Montevina today and I will probably start up in a 35/19 but flop my hub half way up the hill to the 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portola Vince
    How fast I can climb Kennedy right now, less than 45 minutes probably. On an SS I could probably hit 45 minutes but I bet I would be slower in anything less than a 35/22. I would say, for me, a 32/20 or even 32/21, would be quite a bit faster than a 32/18 or 32/19. That's on a 26 " wheel. I think I would be walking most of the way in a 32/17. I am climbing Montevina today and I will probably start up in a 35/19 but flop my hub half way up the hill to the 22.
    I am curious now. I will climb Kennedy on an SS soon. But not on the day of the Kings.

    BTW, we are having an uphill time trial on Sept. 13 on Old La Honda road in Woodside. We'll have a bonus for folks who use the same bike for Kennedy and OLH time trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    BTW, we are having an uphill time trial on Sept. 13 on Old La Honda road in Woodside. We'll have a bonus for folks who use the same bike for Kennedy and OLH time trials.
    A second bike I guess? Or a second cog? In any case I am eligible!

    Where is the information about the Old La Honda TT? Start and Finish?

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    Climb Kennedy or play golf?

    I also have my monthly Xilinx golf tournament on Sep 6. I can do both if I do the Kennedy climb at 8am. I should be back down at 9am, just in time to see everyone else starting. Maybe someone wants to do the climb up with me and stay at the top to do the timing? I can bring two walky talkies to help with the timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisket
    Where is the information about the Old La Honda TT?
    Google is my friend:

    http://felixwong.com/2002/09/old-la-...bicycle-climb/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisket
    Yes, that is the one and only. Here is the planning thread:

    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=142319

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    Are the Wednesday HC Kennedy training rides still happening?

    I remember seeing some folks out there with Francis warming up early but that was months ago.

    Thanks,
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    Hcw

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbikermom
    I remember seeing some folks out there with Francis warming up early but that was months ago.

    Thanks,
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    Yes, we're riding up Kennedy again today. Be at the top at 7pm. It's so much hotter in the afternoon, I'm not sure it'll even be any good training for an early morning hill climb.
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    Did someone say golf???

    Ack! Missing the KOM for golf??? JL, you need to hold you finger on the reset button for 5seconds...

    I injured my wrist playing golf 10 yrs ago and bought a GF sugar cuz I was bored, and that was the end of golf for me. My clubs were stolen 3 yrs ago out of the garage and I didn't even notice. Woo-hoo!

    Francois, it looks like you might have a big turnout, so maybe the starts should be staggered in 5min increments (< 35min, 36-45min, 45+) with the fast guys going first. I foresee a turkey-day-like traffic jam.

    Also, has anyone ever checked to see if walkie-talkies work from top to trailhead? I ride Kennedy at least once a week so if someone wants to give it a try I'm game (early Sat or Sun mornings). Alternatively, we could use cell phones just to log the different start times. Riders could sign in with their mtbr moniker and get a stem sticker at the trailhead. Of course, you're looking at starting the sign-in process ~1 hr (or more) before the first start, if you care about results (1-2min per rider).

    Is there a time & place for the bbq afterwards? I have a decent propane camping griddle if it's needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbikermom
    I remember seeing some folks out there with Francis warming up early but that was months ago.

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    Same Hill. Wrong Thread. See Here.

    HCW is great practice for KoK, which you should do. But for you it'll be QoK.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Hey Tick! Good to see you again... We rode back to town together last Saturday.

    Agreed about golf...

    Besides, I am skipping a bike ride in Fort Ord and an autocross event at Monterey just for KoK! I was in the first one, I am not missing the second one!

    As far as I know, walkie-talkies don't work from the top to the bottom of Kennedy.

    I am beginning to like the idea that the slower riders go first so that everybody has some rabbit to chase. That would make one feel good... Assuming that this ride will nowhere be jammed like the Turkey ride.

    Ali

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms
    Only if is she rides on the handlebars - that would at least give some other people a chance.
    Jeez, don't turn this into the "Special Olympics": where everybody has a class, and everybody gets a medal.
    First to the top, human powered [or, alien appearing in human form - Menso] is the winner.
    I'll watch.
    Damn, I wanted to win the "44 yr old, black Cannondale Prophet w/ a Lefty, XT crankset, with silver helmet" category.
    Lead by my Lefty............... right down the trail, no brakes.

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