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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    30 psi is good.

    For rolling resistance, very high pressures only work if the surface is very smooth. If the surface has is rough and has a lot of embedded rocks, a hard tire will get bounced back causing increased rolling resistance. A tire needs to supple and compliant and conform to the rocks to have good rolling resistance on rough surfaces.

    I used to ride with 60 psi to go fast. Now I ride.... 22 psi most of the time (tubeless). More control and more traction too.

    As far as traction is concerned, yes that's an issue on this climb too. Less is more.

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    Thanks for the advice. I gave 45 psi a try on the Virl O Norton ("Mockingbird Wall") trail in Quicksilver yesterday and found that I spent so much effort fighting to either keep traction on the rear wheel or keep my front tire down that it slowed me down quite a bit. I'l stick with 30 on Saturday
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    Can we get a potluck barbecue going? It will be in a nice park on Shannon road in Los Gatos.

    Who can make it? Who can bring food. Please respond today otherwise we can't have our little partay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Can we get a potluck barbecue going? It will be in a nice park on Shannon road in Los Gatos.

    Who can make it? Who can bring food. Please respond today otherwise we can't have our little partay!

    fc
    Planning to make it, still cant decide plastic vs. metal.

    BTW, you may get more rsponses if you will post on the last page
    Speaking of which, would be cool to have option to jump to the last page right from the main forum page.
    I used to run tubes like you are, but then I got thorn in my wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalk
    BTW, you may get more rsponses if you will post on the last page
    Speaking of which, would be cool to have option to jump to the last page right from the main forum page.

    Ahh, I never knew that since I'm using linear mode viewing. The latest post is always the last post.

    I'll repost and fix.

    To get on the last page from the main page click on the arrow beside the last poster's name. See photo

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    repost urgent!!

    Can we get a potluck barbecue going? It will be in a nice park on Shannon road in Los Gatos.

    Who can make it? Who can bring food. Please respond today otherwise we can't have our little partay!


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    Considering my cooking skills

    and the fact that son #2 (he cooks) will be in Portland...I'll buy one of those fruit tart/cakes from Whole Foods.



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    Fooey!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbikermom
    and the fact that son #2 (he cooks) will be in Portland...I'll buy one of those fruit tart/cakes from Whole Foods.



    Kathleen
    I've been lurking this post for a bit, and thought I might actually be able to join y'all.

    GUess its not in the cards

    Some other kid's birthday party I'll chase my kid around. Could be fun. I get to play silly kid tricks with my kid

    I go...

    boom boom bap! boom boom bap!

    then my kid goes....

    wee will weee will rockey-ko!

    We can do that for hours.

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    I'll skip the ride up the hill, with lot of sadness (yeah right), but Marco will be doing it for the family good name (go daddy go)!
    The girls and I will be waiting for the post ride party (yayyy!).
    How about Tiramisu' (in english is 'pick me up' and I think is appropriate for the ride you will be doing!) ...? or some other dessert
    Is it the same park as last year? it was a very nice place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    repost urgent!!

    Can we get a potluck barbecue going? It will be in a nice park on Shannon road in Los Gatos
    Who can make it? Who can bring food. Please respond today otherwise we can't have our little partay!


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    Damn, not enough interest. We'll have to cancel the barbecue. It's hott anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Damn, not enough interest. We'll have to cancel the barbecue. It's hott anyway.

    fc
    BUMMER!



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    Good luck everyone! I'm starting massive detox from my brutal week of Sales Meeting alcoholism, so I'm out.

    jeffh - you going to bust the sub-40 barrier? Good luck man!

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    Hey all,
    I'm new here on the board, but I live close to the trailhead and I've ridden the trail the last two weekends, so why not make it three in a row. See you in the morning.
    I'm no ringer by the way, I'll be in the slow group.

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    When should the timing volunteers show up at the trail head?

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    8:15 at the trailhead - since you're getting there early, you'll get one of the limited parking spots...

    Need some timing help for Kennedy, Sat Sept. 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonala
    When should the timing volunteers show up at the trail head?
    Awesome, post on the other thread. Justjeff is our leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Damn, not enough interest. We'll have to cancel the barbecue. It's hott anyway.

    fc
    We can always head downtown, grab some burgers at Main Street, then takeover Plaza Park. We can even clean our bikes/bodies in the fountains there!

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    where do you guys park and what route do you ride to get to the trailhead?

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    I'd suggest parking near this spot - there's parking along the side of Kennedy or any of the side streets.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...=UTF8&t=h&z=17

    Then its a 15-20 minute ride up Kennedy to the trailhead (10 if you're fast and pushing it). That will make a good warm-up before the actual hillclimb.

    Please plan on getting there ~10 minutes before your wave. We're going to try and start them at these times on the nose - any stragglers will just have to wait...
    9:00 - "slower" riders 45-60+ minute expected climb times
    9:15 - "standard" riders - 30-45 minutes expected climb times
    9:30 - "King" riders: 30 minute or lower ride times

    If you're not a "King" rider, and show up at 9:14, we'll probably have you start just after the contenders, so you won't get in the way of the mass start.

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    I'm in!

    I'll ride - just so nobody has to worry about being last.

    I'll be slow enough it's hard to say if I'm a spectator or participant.

    I'll probably start at 8:30 so I can be at the top when the kings roll in.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    I'll ride - just so nobody has to worry about being last.

    I'll be slow enough it's hard to say if I'm a spectator or participant.

    I'll probably start at 8:30 so I can be at the top when the kings roll in.
    Nice! We know you like Kennedy in the heat. See you there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biking Brazilian
    We can always head downtown, grab some burgers at Main Street, then takeover Plaza Park. We can even clean our bikes/bodies in the fountains there!

    This is a great idea!! I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    I've been lurking this post for a bit, and thought I might actually be able to join y'all.

    GUess its not in the cards

    Some other kid's birthday party I'll chase my kid around. Could be fun. I get to play silly kid tricks with my kid

    Weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSH
    Good luck everyone! I'm starting massive detox from my brutal week of Sales Meeting alcoholism, so I'm out.

    jeffh - you going to bust the sub-40 barrier? Good luck man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowyellowCJ7
    Hey all,
    I'm new here on the board, but I live close to the trailhead and I've ridden the trail the last two weekends, so why not make it three in a row. See you in the morning.
    I'm no ringer by the way, I'll be in the slow group.
    Awesome. We shall see you there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    ....Weaaaaak....
    Don't count me out yet.

    I'm rethinking and just might say f it even though I won't be in top form. Need to go sweat out some of this toxic nastiness right now on the ol insiderides (it's over 100 here in Dublin/Pleasanton so I'm wussing out on going outside).

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    I'm out.
    Work and all that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rho
    I'm out.
    Work and all that.

    OOOH C'MON TJ!
    It's less than 45mins up, 15min down and you'll be back to your business by 10.
    Give it a go, it's Sat, work can wait...
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    Just finished my new toy. Probably not the best time for a shake down ride, but whatever.
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    Too Hot !

    You guys are crazy, Im riding UCSC with my team , new wheel set for the Fat Possum !
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    I'm out!

    You might be asking, "Jeez Paul(who the hell is this guy), something big must have come up huh?" My answer to that question is this: Nope, I am just a big *****. I will wait to be amazed at the times you guys are putting up and then get mad at myself because I could have claimed 65th place! Good luck everyone and remember that if you start to feel like absolute poo poo, you might be overheating. Be careful and realize that if tomorrow is not your day to set a PR, there are other days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biking Brazilian
    We can always head downtown, grab some burgers at Main Street, then takeover Plaza Park. We can even clean our bikes/bodies in the fountains there!
    +1 Main Street burgers

    See y'all for 9:00am start. Haven't timed myself recently but I'm shooting for 55-60 incl a stop at the resting tree.

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    I can 't make it either, I had a last minute job that I have to do
    Ill be there next time.

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    Haha - "go harder for faster" And how many Nomad frames have you broken exactly? Fkn downhillers... 55psi... Ok, with Menso out (sorry Menso), my money's on Beavers. Wish I could join you guys tomorrow (I'd be in the 40's crowd - years and minutes), have a blast and try dem sweet potato fries at Main Street if you haven't yet - damn those are good.

    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbiker
    i run about 55 psi front and rear riding up kennedy. go harder for faster, you don't have to worry about traction very much if you're moving quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Just finished my new toy. Probably not the best time for a shake down ride, but whatever.
    pics needed.
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    King of Kennedy Pics

    My wife rode up ahead of the first group and snapped shots from the hill leading to the false summit. She tried to get a shot or two of everyone, and apologizes (profusely) if she missed you or if your photo turned out a bit fuzzy.

    Thanks a ton to Francis for setting this up, and to the timing volunteers at the start and the finish. That was a blast! (Although, it feels like I had a little campfire in the back of my throat from sucking down and exhaling that hot air.) We missed you out there, Menso!

    http://picasaweb.google.com/clarkfoy/2008KingOfKennedy#

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    OK - here's the results - quite a turnout!

    Please excuse any typos in your names - there's bound to be a few between what was heard, written down and then transcribed here...

    You can also review the raw data at this link. Let me know if you notice any mistakes, and I'll correct them (and repost here if needed):

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...bxYuayIA&hl=en

    Final Time Place Name
    0:30:20 1 Clark Foy
    0:31:44 2 Chuck
    0:31:59 3 Don Myrah
    0:32:19 4 Cesar Chavez
    0:32:45 5 Fillet Brazed
    0:33:44 6 Mitt Stewart
    0:34:27 7 Craig Sanders
    0:35:05 8 Alex Wild
    0:35:16 9 Krishna
    0:35:30 10 Kirk (Foggy)
    0:36:10 11 Francois
    0:36:37 12 Chris
    0:37:02 13 Tick
    0:37:33 14 Tim Cannard
    0:37:51 15 Mike
    0:39:16 16 Roger Allen
    0:39:51 17 Alex
    0:41:14 18 Steve W
    0:41:30 19 Jim A
    0:41:50 20 Zen Turtle
    0:42:10 21 MSH
    0:43:27 22 Bogdan
    0:44:00 23 Mark
    0:44:25 24 Victor
    0:44:26 25 Rumpfy
    0:44:55 26 Chris
    0:45:01 27 Anthony
    0:45:24 28 Bryan
    0:45:44 29 Charlie
    0:45:47 30 Pete
    0:46:00 31 Greg Butler
    0:46:21 32 Roy
    0:47:02 33 Brian
    0:47:40 34 Harry
    0:48:43 35 Daryl
    0:48:43 36 Aaron
    0:49:48 37 Doug
    0:51:32 38 Gary
    0:52:52 39 Amiel
    0:53:56 40 Kathleen
    0:54:57 41 Mike
    0:55:11 42 Mark
    0:57:25 43 Ed
    0:57:27 44 Michelle
    0:57:37 45 Ali
    1:02:51 46 Chris Huter
    1:10:34 47 Terry
    1:19:45 48 Patrick
    1:29:45 49 Han

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    Wow, that was quick.
    Clark, thank your wife for the pics.
    Jeff, thanks for putting up the times so quickly.

    Fun day. That heat kept the Kings from breaking into the 20's!

    Also fantastic to have Myrah come out again.

    And I gotta say, the Rangers that came out today were super cool. Nice as can be.
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    Definitely a hot one today. As I suspected my week of alcoholic debauchery hurt me, so didn't hit my goal of cracking the 40 min barrier. Could only muster a tad over 42. Oh well...next yr, next yr!

    Thanks Francis for setting this up. Thanks as well to JustJeff & Pisket (sorry if I missed anyone else here) for running the clocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkF
    My wife rode up ahead of the first group and snapped shots from the hill leading to the false summit.
    Well touché.
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    This is all the pics I got. I grabbed a memory card that was full of mp3s. Francis got group 2 on his camera.

    1. Whole Group
    2. Group 1
    3. Group 3
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    I have to agree with the strat of running a higher psi and just plowing through everything.

    sit and mash awaaayyyyy!

    I wish I could have been out there... Had a nice ride out to work and back at least.

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    It was painful and fun at the same time
    Beat my goal by over 2 mins and my last year PR by 6'20", now I'm happy


    I snapped a few pics from my iPhone at the finish line (I got about 30 finishers or so):
    Sorry, some are really dark...
    http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ennedy%202008/
    here a few I like:

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    That's a lot of lycra...
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    Ah good times. New PR 48:43. Glad to see so many folks show up to throw down or just get out and ride. I met some new faces, familiar faces, and saw plenty of agonizing faces. For the record, Zen_Turtle is one f a s t turtle. You must have been quietly training at Integrate Performance Fitness, am I right?

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    That sucked! Well, it was kinda fun, in a hot, dry, tired, painful sort of way.

    Thanks to Marco and Clark's wife for the great photos. Captures the pain really well. Also thanks to Jeff and Ali for timing, and Francis for getting it rolling this year. And congrats to everyone who broke a PR or just gave it their all.

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    Suffering together always make it better!

    I haven't ever timed myself on Kennedy before so I guess this is my personal record.

    Thanks Daryl for going back to look for Patrick. He was beat but it was evident once he got there he was really happy about it. He also enjoyed hanging out in town with everyone (originally he was going to head directly home). He was happy with his time considering he could have done it in half that last year! Now he can work towards Thanksgiving.


    Thanks to the timer (Pisket?) for waiting for Patrick. I was about to head down until he said he was waiting to give him a time. Next time we will make a better effort to make the 9am start time! I'll probably have to wake him at 6am.


    Very painful but fun but I wish Francios had said this was a boys ride.


    Kat

    and the new bike was awesome up and down!

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    That was miserable! As soon as we started it felt like my brain was in an oven.

    Congratulations to everyone. That was my first time up Kennedy, and it is quite a climb. Many thanks to the picture takers (nice shots, wife-of-Clark), timers, and our fearless organizer.

    OK, so when are we going do it again?

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    That's hot.

    It's awesome we pulled this off. In a summer where everyone's so busy with other stuff, many, many folks found the drive and the passion to do the climb. We knew it was going to be steep and we knew it was going to be hot. We suffered together and had a great experience.

    The 'lack of' organization was impeccable! I don't like to organize and I usually want everyone to take care of themselves. Well it looks like my key crew Thomas was injured and out and JeffH & Carmen were out in Portland. Luckily, Justjeff was ready for my call and just needed a couple of volunteers. Ali, Jonala and Fast Eddy came in support and the logistics were done. The timing was ultra-smooth and there were no protests to the Olympic committee this year.

    As you can see from the photos, a ton of riders showed up. Everyone suffered through that climb but it's a climb we'll remember for the season. The conditions were so tough that folks were typically 2 minutes off their pace last year.

    We had a great picnic too after the event. Sorry I broke a lot of the pint glasses. I blame heatstroke!

    The rangers Tom and Anthony came out. They were not happy about this 'event' and they asked that we get a permit next time. But that being said, they were very friendly and they asked we not speed on the way down.

    50 people participated plus maybe 5 support crew that pedaled up. It was a good day.

    So here's my photos. The complete set is here:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/fcebedo/...nedy#slideshow


    Our officials are here: Justjeff, Ali, Jonala
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    This is Mark aka msh who came despite the odds
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Fast Eddy came out to meet old friends and help out
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    This is TimmyC representin for Buycell.com he was proud of his new uber project gti
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    The crowd gathers. That's 'tick' in the middle
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    This is Darryl from Passion Trail bikes with his brand new pimp daddy bike. The chainstay on both sides is super wrapped because... because he's Darryl
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    This is Chris Soukup remembering his mtb roots
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    We saw the Cupertino Bike Shop ride with my buddy Steve
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy



    This is the 9am group
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Ali was awesome as the master of ceromonies! Ali was rear-ended in the car a couple of weeks ago and is a bit injured.
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Ex-Olympian Don Myrah thought he missed his start time. Nope, he's good. He broke his record from last year too.
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    (cont...)
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    This is the 9:15 group with Alex aka 'sirkrameroy' leading the charge
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    We have a couple young hammers from Los Gatos high
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Tick is realizing what he's in for.
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    That's Rumpfy in the mtbr jersey ready to pounce
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Another look at Rumpfy's bike
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    The suffer ring begins
    From 9-5-2008 kennedy


    Tourists
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    This is Darryl from Passion Trail bikes with his brand new pimp daddy bike. The chainstay on both sides is super wrapped because... because he's Darryl
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    This is Craig who climbed up in a singlespeed with a sub 35 minute time. Craig is famous for passing people on the Kennedy climb with his daughter Lilly on the wee-ride.
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    These are vintage fans Rumpfy and Fillet-Brazed. Their wives know them as Eric and Dave.
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    This is Patrick on the left and someone I recruited from last week's ride. (name?)
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    Justjeff and Anthony. Anthony's brakes were dragging... big time!!
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    Kathleen aka mtbikermom has a new bike
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    Oh my ride report?

    It doesn't really matter that my bike worked well and that I got a new PR. Nope, who cares.

    The important thing is I charged up the first hill (from the back ), then I took the lead to the top and didn't slide out on the first descent. And then it was over. The Olympian and his gang caught me, the end.

    My breakaway was doomed from the start but my mentor Thomas Voeckler would have been proud!

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    Thanks to all for putting that together



    Thanks for pulling this event together. I have to say I don't know the group but took advantage of your timed event and except of a bit of pain, a lung collapse, had a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    This is Patrick on the left and someone I recruited from last week's ride. (name?)
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    That's "No Helmet" Aaron on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Ali was awesome as the master of ceromonies! Ali was rear-ended in the car a couple of weeks ago and is a bit injured.
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    Forget the back injury man... That's poison oak rubbing my leg there! I will take pictures in a couple of days.

    I took it really easy for my ride:

    - Didn't even run the downhills
    - Walked many times
    - Even stopped to chat with a group of riders for a couple of minutes
    - As a result, 57+ minutes is horrible compared to my last year's 46+

    I am very happy that my buddy Han came and to my surprise posted the slowest time as he claimed he would! That means that he passed all of the no-shows, including my other buddies (hint, hint). You're the man Han!

    My other hero is Zen_Turtle who did 41 minutes! He gave this mortal hope that he may not have started his downhill yet.

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    Sorry we missed out on the fun.

    Wow, 17 riders under 40 minutes. Francis is one of the Kings now and Marco is getting close with a 41:50! Congratulations.

    My golf was pathetic, as usual. I should sell my clubs and concentrate on biking. Sorry we missed the festivities. Hope to be back next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong

    My golf was pathetic, as usual. I should sell my club and concentrate on biking.

    - J.L.
    You can carry up to 14 clubs.

    I was up until 1 AM this morning working on a computer and woke up at 8:45 AM. I did walk the dog at 10 AM.

    I think it's time to create a separate cross bike field.
    We take care of your technology needs so you can focus on what's important.

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    Get Much Faster Francis

    and you will have to start racing expert class.

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    Isn't that why

    Francois organizes his own race?

    What do you say to a friend that flaked and then says he should have gone?

    Francois...Patrick thinks you're a pretty cool dude. I don't know how to judge that from a kid that likes hanging out with the likes of Keith White and Scott Schlachter from TWW!

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    Click on the links to view photos of the riders. Click on the magnifying glass to view close-ups.

    Final Time Place Name
    0:30:20 1 Clark Foy
    0:31:44 2 Chuck
    0:31:59 3 Don Myrah
    0:32:19 4 Cesar Chavez
    0:32:45 5 Fillet Brazed
    0:33:44 6 Mitt Stewart
    0:34:27 7 Craig Sanders
    0:35:05 8 Alex Wild
    0:35:16 9 Krishna
    0:35:30 10 Kirk (Foggy)
    0:36:10 11 Francois
    0:36:37 12 Chris
    0:37:02 13 Tick
    0:37:33 14 Tim Cannard
    0:37:51 15 Mike
    0:39:16 16 Roger Allen
    0:39:51 17 Alex
    0:41:14 18 Steve W
    0:41:30 19 Jim A
    0:41:50 20 Zen Turtle
    0:42:10 21 MSH
    0:43:27 22 Bogdan
    0:44:00 23 Mark
    0:44:25 24 Victor
    0:44:26 25 Rumpfy
    0:44:55 26 Chris
    0:45:01 27 Anthony
    0:45:24 28 Bryan
    0:45:44 29 Charlie
    0:45:47 30 Pete
    0:46:00 31 Greg Butler
    0:46:21 32 Roy
    0:47:02 33 Brian
    0:47:40 34 Harry
    0:48:43 35 Daryl
    0:48:43 36 Aaron
    0:49:48 37 Doug
    0:51:32 38 Gary
    0:52:52 39 Amiel
    0:53:56 40 Kathleen
    0:54:57 41 Mike
    0:55:11 42 Mark
    0:57:25 43 Ed
    0:57:27 44 Michelle
    0:57:37 45 Ali
    1:02:51 46 Chris Huter
    1:10:34 47 Terry
    1:19:45 48 Patrick
    1:29:45 49 Han

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    FC - the rider pictured here http://picasaweb.google.com/clarkfoy...95498419644706 is 0:35:16 9 Krishna, not Alex Wild.

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    This was my first timed run up the hill. I guess I have a number to beat next time.
    0:45:47 30 Pete

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    Thanks again for putting this on!

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    That looks like a great time guys. I was cheering you guys on while watching F1 qualifying with my foot up on the ottoman.

    You all rawk in my book for heading up that hill in that heat. Looks like Jeff and crew did a great job with timing and scoring.

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    Hellishly hot but fun ride

    I was a little late because of my futile efforts to get more much needed sleep. I felt tapped out and tired when I got out of bed. I missed the 9:00 group and started with the 9:15 group instead. That was probably one of my worst rides ever, probably second only to racing at the Sea Otter while coming down with the flu. Man was it hot today! I backed off after the first steep climb so I can cool down a bit. I took my bandana off but that didn't help much. My legs were still kinda fresh near the top but my heart rate was way up there and I just had that feeling of my core being profoundly drained. I thought I was gonna puke and dismounted just before the last wall. I'm just glad I finished in under an hour. It's only my second time climbing Kennedy and I thought the first time it was way easier. Probably because there was lechon at the top then .

    Anyway, It was great riding with a group again.

    I'll post pics later. I somehow got tricked into going to Capitola's Art and Wine fest this evening and just got home.

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    Off the charts

    Fast Eddy and I did a unmetered ride, starting around 10 minutes to 9AM. FE took off as the 9:30 AM Kings swooped by, and got up well before me.

    I took around 1h35m by my estimation - putting me off the chart, likely maintaining my position as "slowest rider". However I spent a lot of time chatting, taking pictures, walking, and, oh, riding my bike - but not really racing.

    I've done much better times before, but was taking it real easy today just to have fun. Pictures coming later.

    Oh, and by weird coincidence I was surprised to also see Menso today - working at Evolution Bike shop, where he has another couple weeks before going back to school. He asked about the race and was amused to hear his "King" record is still standing. My wife and I were looking for a new bike for her entry into MTB. The Giant Trance X2 was very nice, but has a high stand over clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Nice bike dude!!!!
    You may think you have the same bike. And might have nail-polish painted rotors. But you won't have the Darryl special - Symmetrically wrapped chainstays.

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    What is this Rumpfy bike on its maiden voyage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rj2
    You can carry up to 14 clubs.

    I was up until 1 AM this morning working on a computer and woke up at 8:45 AM. I did walk the dog at 10 AM.

    I think it's time to create a separate cross bike field.
    There's no shows and then there's NO SHOWS. What da?

    Anyway I just wanted to get everyone out there. Y'all missed a good day with great folks on the evil hill.

    I'll do some more PR runs on the hill this month. Then it's on to do the great Turkey ride!

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    Great riding guys!

    Top ten FC! Nice!!! Congrats on the way fast time. Maybe you like the heat more than you let on?
    Great job too MSH - you're obviously ready for Whiskeytown Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms
    Top ten FC! Nice!!! Congrats on the way fast time. Maybe you like the heat more than you let on?
    Great job too MSH - you're obviously ready for Whiskeytown Mark.
    Ahh, today I'm full on sick with a chest infection. I have to miss the roadbikereview ride

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    No women took part? What a sausage fest!
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    Thanks for organizing this. Even with that heat it was a lot of fun to battle it out up the hill. Met a lot of nice people, too. I had Myrah 5-10 seconds ahead of me for the first 20 minutes or so and then snapped and fell back. I got excited thinking I could maybe beat the former World Champion, but I'll have to wait for next year.

    Fun enough to come back. Man, my hill climb bike concoction was ugly! I have already begun putting it back to normal. I think we need to do this again maybe in the fall or spring with some moist dirt and cooler temps. Fun stuff. Thanks to all involved.

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    Nice,

    44.25 on Nomad, now I even broke my lousy Ibis record of 44.40. I guess changing strat a bit, going with camelback instead of loosing time by drinking out of bottles and good old punish yourself more ... well next time. Or better just to steal FC's bike and hit sub 40s

    But main strategy worked well, I knew if I bring Ibis I would have to race Marco and that would be painfull
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    Thanx!

    That was miserable, but fun!
    Thanks Francois, JustJeff, Ali & Jonala (& anyone else) for makin this happen!
    See Ya in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms
    ...Great job too MSH - you're obviously ready for Whiskeytown Mark.
    Thx John. I was honestly disappointed with my performance, as I was targeting to hit the 39-40 mark. Not completely surprising though considering I pretty much ate like a pig and boozed up hard Tuesday, Wed, and Thurs at my co's sales meeting.

    On the Whiskeytown note...I'm registered up for the 8hr solo, so I'll see you there! Need to shave 5 lbs off my gut between now and then 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalk
    Nice,

    44.25 on Nomad, now I even broke my lousy Ibis record of 44.40. I guess changing strat a bit, going with camelback instead of loosing time by drinking out of bottles and good old punish yourself more ... well next time. Or better just to steal FC's bike and hit sub 40s

    But main strategy worked well, I knew if I bring Ibis I would have to race Marco and that would be painfull
    You beat Snowjnky http://picasaweb.google.com/clarkfoy...95128683825762 by a few seconds in the Nomad division.

    You guys have good all-mountain form.

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    More photos

    Do you have a permit for this?
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    At the top
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    Chris(?) flew up the hill on his big bike
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    Fast Eddy on one of his vintage rides
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    9:00 group
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    Bling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    What is this Rumpfy bike on its maiden voyage?

    Mill Valley special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    You beat Snowjnky http://picasaweb.google.com/clarkfoy...95128683825762 by a few seconds in the Nomad division.

    You guys have good all-mountain form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalk
    Nah, he was faster, his bike was just heavier
    yeah it's heavier...but it's still a Nomad and you took the Nomad Cat. Congrats
    sub 45 on any 6" travel bike gets props. next year we should have our own start time but the finish will be Lexington. AM baby
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
    yeah it's heavier...but it's still a Nomad and you took the Nomad Cat. Congrats
    sub 45 on any 6" travel bike gets props. next year we should have our own start time but the finish will be Lexington. AM baby

    I assume Lexington comes after some descending? If so, I'd be up for that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I assume Lexington comes after some descending? If so, I'd be up for that too.
    Lexington comes after a massive 50 mph descent.

    Rangers who are reading this board.... they are just kidding about that. Crazy kids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Lexington comes after a massive 52 mph descent.

    Rangers who are reading this board.... they are just kidding about that. Crazy kids .

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    True dat! Nothing sounds worse than getting a ticket going down the most mind numbing descent after doing the most miserable climb in the BA. Speaking of tickets, didn't someone get a ticket on Sat? I heard he was being a jerkoff. Guys like this are going to make it a lot harder to do rides like this. Please be nice to the rangers when they are being nice to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Lexington comes after a massive 50 mph descent.

    Rangers who are reading this board.... they are just kidding about that. Crazy kids .

    fc

    oops, scratch that. Forgive my ignorance on your terrain over the hill there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
    Speaking of tickets, didn't someone get a ticket on Sat? I heard he was being a jerkoff. Guys like this are going to make it a lot harder to do rides like this. Please be nice to the rangers when they are being nice to us.
    Yeah, who was that?? I heard riders all around him kept telling him to slow down since he was way over 15 mph right near the rangers. I heard he kept mouthing off to the rangers until they gave him a ticket. He wasn't part of our group apparently.

    Also, Aaron <- no helmet was turned back on his climb start and was very upset at the rangers. Left a big impression on them and the rangers talked to me about him. He was probably really disappointed about missing the start but c'mon. No helmet? That's normally a $300 fine. Say thank you, get your helmet and climb .

    I'm really not happy about mid-pen management. But everytime I've talked to the rangers this year, (specially Turkey ride) I'm left with a good impression.

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    $300 buys a very nice helmet!

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    Its a bit of a nanny state when youre required to wear a helmet to climb a 4 mile hill in 90 degree heat. I do plenty of rides without one and thats my own personal choice.

    As far as the rangers, sure I was disappointed but I felt like I wasnt rude to them. If thats the case I apologize for giving our sport and group a bad impression. Wasnt really expecting them to show at the start like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yeah, who was that?? I heard riders all around him kept telling him to slow down since he was way over 15 mph right near the rangers. I heard he kept mouthing off to the rangers until they gave him a ticket. He wasn't part of our group apparently.

    Also, Aaron <- no helmet was turned back on his climb start and was very upset at the rangers. Left a big impression on them and the rangers talked to me about him. He was probably really disappointed about missing the start but c'mon. No helmet? That's normally a $300 fine. Say thank you, get your helmet and climb .

    I'm really not happy about mid-pen management. But everytime I've talked to the rangers this year, (specially Turkey ride) I'm left with a good impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox
    Its a bit of a nanny state when youre required to wear a helmet to climb a 4 mile hill in 90 degree heat. I do plenty of rides without one and thats my own personal choice.

    As far as the rangers, sure I was disappointed but I felt like I wasnt rude to them. If thats the case I apologize for giving our sport and group a bad impression. Wasnt really expecting them to show at the start like that.
    Hey, is that you Aaron? I'm really glad you showed up man. And that's cool you rode up and got timed anyway.

    No slam intended on my part. But we're out there as a group and the problem with an uphill ITT is you still have to get down from the mountain. They didn't say you were rude to them. More like: "Man, that guy was really upset. Is he ok yet?"

    The rangers are here on this forum and on this thread. That's just how it is and we learn to live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox
    As far as the rangers, sure I was disappointed but I felt like I wasnt rude to them.
    Is that Aaron? Very nice to meet and ride with you... I am glad that you decided to come back after all.

    No, you were not rude at the start at all, and I don't think the rangers meant it about you. It has been rumored that the speeding ticket incident had an upset rider.

    I too want to thank the rangers publicly for their friendliness. I can't think that they could be any more polite or understanding than they were. Tolerance is such a great thing!

    I agree with you about the climb with no helmet (no gloves too! ) but I still think it's a good idea to wear one coming down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
    yeah it's heavier...but it's still a Nomad and you took the Nomad Cat. Congrats
    sub 45 on any 6" travel bike gets props. next year we should have our own start time but the finish will be Lexington. AM baby
    Well let's put it in that way. We beat FC on the Nomad from last year I think it was 45.30ish
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yeah, who was that?? I heard riders all around him kept telling him to slow down since he was way over 15 mph right near the rangers. I heard he kept mouthing off to the rangers until they gave him a ticket. He wasn't part of our group apparently.
    Fast Eddy, me, and another guy were trying to stay under 15 MPH as required. I took the lead so I could make sure with all my speedometers we were properly under the limit.

    Then around this corner, some guy is zipping fast around us. We all shout hard at him, but he ignores us and anything we're saying. Karma is swift and a few seconds later he's clocked by the rangers. I heard the rangers say he was nailed doing over 20-something.

    Kathleen (mtbikermom) was having a friendly chit-chat with the rangers at the time, and hears the guy approach with an attitude "I suppose you're going to give me a ticket now, aren't you!' Up to then Kat says the rangers were just issuing warnings.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    Fast Eddy, me, and another guy were trying to stay under 15 MPH as required. I took the lead so I could make sure with all my speedometers we were properly under the limit.
    Ha, ha, ha . I knew about your GPS fetish but I didn't know you triangulate speedometer data too.

    What did that guy look like? Not part of our group? I heard he got a ticket last week too. I want photos so I can avoid that badazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalk
    Well let's put it in that way. We beat FC on the Nomad from last year I think it was 45.30ish
    Yep, I was darn proud of that time. Now my Nomad is gone so your record is safe.

    I have a powertap hub and it can go on any of my bikes. So i'll put it on three different bikes and climb up at an average of 200 watts. I'll post all the times and hopefully we can tell how much difference the bike makes. Bikes:
    Look Bike - 17 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yep, I was darn proud of that time. Now my Nomad is gone so your record is safe.

    I have a powertap hub and it can go on any of my bikes. So i'll put it on three different bikes and climb up at an average of 200 watts. I'll post all the times and hopefully we can tell how much difference the bike makes. Bikes:
    Look Bike - 17 lbs
    Ti Singlespeed - 20 lbs
    Fuji Reveal - 28 lbs

    science!
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    If you keep the power the same you can calculate time pretty accurately w/ simple math (or the internet).

    http://bikecalculator.com/tripUS.html

    I'd rather see how much a lighter bike affects max sustained power output. Go do a few runs at 100% HR and report back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timehoc
    If you keep the power the same you can calculate time pretty accurately w/ simple math (or the internet).

    http://bikecalculator.com/tripUS.html

    I'd rather see how much a lighter bike affects max sustained power output. Go do a few runs at 100% HR and report back!
    So what's your time calculations for the three bikes??

    How does a lighter bike affect sustained power output? I do not compute. Are you trying to confuse me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    So what's your time calculations for the three bikes??

    How does a lighter bike affect sustained power output? I do not compute. Are you trying to confuse me?

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    For a 155lb rider pedaling up 1900 feet at 200 watts

    33.25 min + 10%
    37.97
    39.25

    Power formula for climbs:

    bike + rider weight (kg) x 9.8 x elevation gain (meters) / time (seconds) = power (watts). Add 10% for rolling and air resistance.

    Basically I want to know how much a lighter bike will enable me to mash up the hill harder.

    http://www2.trainingbible.com/joesbl...r-formula.html

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    But will you complete all three trips on the same day?

    You'll need Larry to coordinate weather conditions, wind and temp to get a truly accurate & scientific result!

    As for the speeder, the ranger chatting to me said whoa...I gotta talk with this guy, he was going 20 miles an hour. It wasn't the speed that caught their attention as much as the slide as he came around the corner and saw their truck. His first words back to them were "are you gonna give me a ticket?"
    It was his manner and words that got him a ticket. He needs a lesson or two in humility and understanding...there are a few on TWW that could help out there. I watched one of the guys one day, it was a good lesson for my kids to watch how to act when you know you're wrong (oh yea...they were both there!).

    Patrick said he saw the same guy getting a ticket last week on St Joe's.
    Bad Karma...Arron was upset he couldn't ride but he was never like that guy that got the ticket. Big difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by timehoc
    For a 155lb rider pedaling 3.9 miles up 1900 feet at 200 watts..... the interwebs spits out times of :

    43.97 minutes
    45.25
    46.79

    Actual formula:

    bike + rider weight (kg) x 9.8 x elevation gain (meters) / time (seconds) = power (watts). Add 10% for rolling and air resistance.

    Basically I want to know how much a lighter bike will enable me to mash up the hill harder.

    Sincerely,
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    Sweet numbers. I also have the other variables of singlespeed and FS bike.

    I don't think a lighter bike can get you pedaling harder with more power. It may have more to do with:
    - how much you spent on the bike and how much you still owe
    - how much smack talk was done by your buddy chasing you at the moment
    - how far Johnny Law is behind you and how big his dogs are.
    - mountain lion!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Sweet numbers. I also have the other variables of singlespeed and FS bike.

    I don't think a lighter bike can get you pedaling harder with more power. It may have more to do with:
    - how much you spent on the bike and how much you still owe
    - how much smack was done by your buddy chasing you at the moment
    - how far Johnny Law is behind you and how big his dogs are.
    - mountain lion!!

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    Based on the formula the numbers are a little quicker. The formula doesn't count mileage so as opposed to the one on the interwebs. Maybe the 10% compensator is road specific? So basically my head hurts now.

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    FC, that would be great experiment. What meakes biggest difference besides the weight is the damping system of the suspension.

    While VPP is quite efficient with 6.5" of travel its still noo match to HT or firm XC oriented bike. Moreover, standing up position stiffen up VPP under good power but the fork bobs like crazy.
    For next season I'm looking to lighten up Nomad (28ish pounds range) and there is not much options for locking up suspension. The closest I can get with on the fork is DT EXC150 with Launch control. There is nothing on the rear either, Monarch 4.2 with flood-gate lever seems the closest option. I wish DT would extend their shock offerings to 8.5/2.5 range. Fox dropped RP23 for this size and DT have a gap, either 8/2 or 8.8/2.5 and nothing in between, so RS only single-can option for aftermarket.

    Anyway would be interesting to see if it's worth all this trouble
    I used to run tubes like you are, but then I got thorn in my wheel.

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