I think I'm getting a super custom 29'er. Except I don't like 29'ers. (help)
It's all tburgers fault.
I think I'm going to get a nice custom, fully rigid 29'er. But I really dont like 29'ers. All the ones I've ridden just felt weird. Odd handling, big wheels. Gyroscopic inertia. geriatric styling.
So, I've come to you for help.
I acknowledge I have a problem. And this problem is bigger than I am capable of handling by my self.
Who among you are willing to lead me from darkness to light?
I want to try your 29'ers to get a feel for different ones, so I can hone in on the handling and geometry I like.
I did recently try a Cannondale hardtail 29'er that felt rather normal. Good even. So there's hope.
If any of you would be willing to let me try your bike, that would be great.
I'm tall. And in the East Bay. I'm really good looking from the right camera angle. And I don't shave.
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The only 29er I've ridden that I liked was a Tall Boy. Perhaps you can have someone copy that geometry for your custom bike. Although you probably could get a Tall Boy for less money than you are going to spend...
The only 29er I've ridden that I liked was a Tall Boy. Perhaps you can have someone copy that geometry for your custom bike. Although you probably could get a Tall Boy for less money than you are going to spend...
VPP is teh suck
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I know nothing about 29ers, but supposedly Black Cat bikes handle closer to a 26er. 16.5 chainstays. Check out his interview for the NAHBS. Personally I'm staying 26.
Sometimes you eat the trail, sometimes the trail eats you.
I know nothing about 29ers, but supposedly Black Cat bikes handle closer to a 26er. 16.5 chainstays. Check out his interview for the NAHBS. Personally I'm staying 26.
I'm going with Potts. he's a friend and it would be like cheating on a partner if I went with anyone else.
Although I used to work with Todd and he's a good guy.
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I am bumping in from out here in AZ to interfere with this thread but if you want rigid, real rigid give yourself a chance to ride a jones bike, see what a bike designed to be rigid is like before having a bike built that is designed to be a suspended bike but with a rigid fork on it. If you go potts you can have a type II made with an increase offset so you can really enjoy your rigid and potts experience.
I think I'm going to get a nice custom, fully rigid 29'er. But I really dont like 29'ers. All the ones I've ridden just felt weird. Odd handling, big wheels. Gyroscopic inertia. geriatric styling.
So, I've come to you for help.
I acknowledge I have a problem. And this problem is bigger than I am capable of handling by my self.
Who among you are willing to lead me from darkness to light?
I want to try your 29'ers to get a feel for different ones, so I can hone in on the handling and geometry I like.
I did recently try a Cannondale hardtail 29'er that felt rather normal. Good even. So there's hope.
If any of you would be willing to let me try your bike, that would be great.
I'm tall. And in the East Bay. I'm really good looking from the right camera angle. And I don't shave.
You can take mine out again for a full ride if you want.
I think its more applications specific. 29ers are great if you can use the momentum. Something more technical that requires tight maneuvering around rocks or switchbacks, not so much because it is harder to turn and then get momentum back. Maybe you should try a cheap one to see if you get used to it before investing in the Potts.
Interesting article in the last Bike magazine talking about how 29 may become standard for anything less than 5" of travel. Goes on to talk about ways they are shortening the chain stays to try and improve handling, which is the biggest drawback.
Rick Hunter's NAHBS centerpiece was a 29-inch wheeled adventure bike. Hunter built it for himself to tackle epic, multi-day rides in the hills near his shop in Santa Cruz County. The bike is extremely versatile (he called it a "universal bike") and it can be built up with gears, as a singlespeed, or with an internal hub. You could even squeeze a suspension fork on if you wanted to. It's also easy to travel with, featuring a Ritchey Break-away joint at the seat tube cluster and an S & S Coupler low on the downtube near the bottom bracket....
Should be a bunch more coming in our coverage with even bigger tires and better brakes.
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Isn't the only good tire option the John Holmes or whatever from Rivendell? I mean everything else is a low performance kevlar plated commuting tire or a hybrid tire in that size.
Seems like we will have to wait for another genre of bikes to come out with suitable treads so that we can use the bikes to their full potential.
Of course fat road bikes bring plush to a new apex, needing not weird elastomers in the frame, nor carbon fibers laid up just so, or millions of dollars of research, just a fatter tire in an already existing frame type with the geometry tweaked to work with it. Of course that is what they said about 29ers when they first came out and it took quite awhile for then to get that geometry sorted.
That said, John Holmes would be a great name for a fat road bike or a fat road bike tire.
You can take mine out again for a full ride if you want.
I think its more applications specific. 29ers are great if you can use the momentum. Something more technical that requires tight maneuvering around rocks or switchbacks, not so much because it is harder to turn and then get momentum back. Maybe you should try a cheap one to see if you get used to it before investing in the Potts.
Interesting article in the last Bike magazine talking about how 29 may become standard for anything less than 5" of travel. Goes on to talk about ways they are shortening the chain stays to try and improve handling, which is the biggest drawback.
I might take you up. I want something that's a cross between your bike and the black cat.
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I like rigid 29rs. Compensates a bit for the lack of suspension.
But I like suspension even better. Contemplating switching my weenie titanium hardtail to an FS frame (26r..)
that was in response to someone recomending the tallboy. I already have a very light 26" full sus, and a freeride and a DH. This will be a mountain cruiser, pimp ride.
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I thought that's what the Pee Wee Herman bike was for.
Old school pimp ride was my motivation. Totally buying into a design the way Steve Potts thinks it should be was okay with me. I actually think short stay slack angle 29ers are a great design. But it doesn't really jive with Potts' style. Bit of a trade-off there. Perhaps I'll pick up a slack steel 29er one of these days when my wife isn't looking.
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Nah. That's yet to be proven. I just need to ride some of these, and compare geometry. So Potts wont do a fully suspension corrected type 2, eh?
If you cut your legs off at the shins, you'd be able to fit mine. He can do the Type II's corrected for a 100mm travel fork.
I thought that's what the Pee Wee Herman bike was for.
Old school pimp ride was my motivation. Totally buying into a design the way Steve Potts thinks it should be was okay with me. I actually think short stay slack angle 29ers are a great design. But it doesn't really jive with Potts' style. Bit of a trade-off there. Perhaps I'll pick up a slack steel 29er one of these days when my wife isn't looking.
I thought that's what the Pee Wee Herman bike was for.
Old school pimp ride was my motivation. Totally buying into a design the way Steve Potts thinks it should be was okay with me. I actually think short stay slack angle 29ers are a great design. But it doesn't really jive with Potts' style. Bit of a trade-off there. Perhaps I'll pick up a slack steel 29er one of these days when my wife isn't looking.
If you cut your legs off at the shins, you'd be able to fit mine. He can do the Type II's corrected for a 100mm travel fork.
If you can do type 2 corrected for 100 mil, that should be fine. I was just looking at the cannondale geometry, and it's pretty standard - 71/73, 17.5" stays - just a longer axle to crown than most rigid forks.
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I think I'm going to get a nice custom, fully rigid 29'er. But I really dont like 29'ers. All the ones I've ridden just felt weird. Odd handling, big wheels. Gyroscopic inertia. geriatric styling.
So, I've come to you for help.
I acknowledge I have a problem. And this problem is bigger than I am capable of handling by my self.
Who among you are willing to lead me from darkness to light?
I want to try your 29'ers to get a feel for different ones, so I can hone in on the handling and geometry I like.
I did recently try a Cannondale hardtail 29'er that felt rather normal. Good even. So there's hope.
If any of you would be willing to let me try your bike, that would be great.
I'm tall. And in the East Bay. I'm really good looking from the right camera angle. And I don't shave.
Apperently not everyone appreciates my literary genius!
"ewe r a d00$hnozzle" (my most recent neg rep)
HTFU and sign your neg reps so I can pos rep you! SISSY!
Stupid, but sometimes witty. Occasionally brilliant. Slow and fat though.
Isn't the only good tire option the John Holmes or whatever from Rivendell? I mean everything else is a low performance kevlar plated commuting tire or a hybrid tire in that size.
Seems like we will have to wait for another genre of bikes to come out with suitable treads so that we can use the bikes to their full potential.
Of course fat road bikes bring plush to a new apex, needing not weird elastomers in the frame, nor carbon fibers laid up just so, or millions of dollars of research, just a fatter tire in an already existing frame type with the geometry tweaked to work with it. Of course that is what they said about 29ers when they first came out and it took quite awhile for then to get that geometry sorted.
That said, John Holmes would be a great name for a fat road bike or a fat road bike tire.
I heard there's been a change in tires and high quality big road tires are now available. And that's helping this wave of new bikes.
I've been using a Continental Top Contact 32c but it is $90 each! Awesome though.
that was in response to someone recomending the tallboy. I already have a very light 26" full sus, and a freeride and a DH. This will be a mountain cruiser, pimp ride.
Apperently not everyone appreciates my literary genius!
"ewe r a d00$hnozzle" (my most recent neg rep)
HTFU and sign your neg reps so I can pos rep you! SISSY!
I just took a look at this rep business for the first time. Perhaps I will neg rep you and call you a d00$hnozzle sometime soon. I will be sure to sign it.
Very cool about the Potts frame. My one complaint with my 29er HT is that my rear wheel slips a lot when I'm climbing out of the saddle. Partly just because it's a SS but also because the chainstays are nearly 18" long. It's 7 years old and times/geometry have changed. My Epic Marathon 29 feels both quicker in the turns and more sure footed in steep terrain.
I just took a look at this rep business for the first time. Perhaps I will neg rep you and call you a d00$hnozzle sometime soon. I will be sure to sign it.
Very cool about the Potts frame. My one complaint with my 29er HT is that my rear wheel slips a lot when I'm climbing out of the saddle. Partly just because it's a SS but also because the chainstays are nearly 18" long. It's 7 years old and times/geometry have changed. My Epic Marathon 29 feels both quicker in the turns and more sure footed in steep terrain.
dude, you should come up and ride diablo with us sunday. And bring your ventana.
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What's up I Heart!
Dude getting a bike built just for YOU is a crazy cool experience. I just had my first custom bike built last summer and trying to figure out geo. and colors was so hard for me.
One thing for sure is it is going to be YOURS and it will never be "last years model".
I had Jon Tallerico in Lodi build this one.
Hope I am safe posting a road bike pic. On mtbr. In this thread?
Note: xtr pedals and Stan's wheel set. Also 25mm tubeless.
Oh yeah! Also Harry legs. 👍
Enjoy the trip! which is all the decisions that you'll make on your super pimp Mtn. Ride.
Or maybe the oakland zoo. lots of good hiking, parks, etc.
Opening weekend for the Aristocats at the Golden Bough in Carmel. One daughter is Amelia, the goose, and the other is one of the Alley Cats. Family coming up from Ventura.
Isn't the only good tire option the John Holmes or whatever from Rivendell? I mean everything else is a low performance kevlar plated commuting tire or a hybrid tire in that size.
Seems like we will have to wait for another genre of bikes to come out with suitable treads so that we can use the bikes to their full potential.
Tread is overrated for that kind of bike IMHO, especially if you want to ride both road and dirt. But there are few good choices in the 650B size. I'm having a lot of fun with this bike.
Winwood muddy fork slackens the bike a bit and even just disk on the front wheel is enough.
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