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    Henry Coe 10-15 Official Thread - norcal xpost

    Post your ride reports here. Let's see some pics.

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    Raid report

    Not the first time Fc talks me into the troubles
    Initial plan to stick to B ride with possibility to backup to C endup:

    31.7Miles on my computer ( I know it little bit of, so let say 31mile)
    Went through 1 galon of Gatorade+Recovery drink, countless number of gels bars.
    Can't comment of total climbed, no GPS, but was hella a lot.

    Ohh, did I mentioned I endup in A ride? and we took Bonus Short loop "should be 3 miles" (7 miles comp reading), then another bonus loop, then another ... oops, thanksfully last we skipped, I runned completely out of water.

    Well, overall I had a blast, and Josh showing us his new trick was just an extra freebie, but still nice.

    Crawling away from computer to the couch, feeling completely wasted.

    P.S. Big thanks to a Big Man who organized all this. It's was first time to me in HC and I can tell: " What an introduction".
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    Here's my ride report:
    This one day, at band camp there was a lot of people with bikes and we rode up then down and it was fun!

    Hey good riding with you guys. I'm so happy I made it. 38 people? WTF, that's bigger than most gatherings. That just shows what can be done with some gps planning. Honestly, I think everyone showed up hoping to see BigLarry bodyslam the guys mouthing off on the board.

    Good ride. It was my best ride yet at Coe. We were blessed with great weather and even better company. Long live Sportlegs!!

    Remember, Auburn Nov 5-6.

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    Got there early. Started late. We got to meet your friendly Coe ranger who was wondering whether our big ride had an helicopter at the ready just in case...

    C ride was good, 19 miles, 3200', plenty of good company (18 riders) and good laughs.

    Ride itself: up, then up, then up some more, get off the bike to push, then up some more... Stopped at Kelly lake for a well deserved lunch break. Then, it's a blur, up, down, up, down, get to parking lot, drink beer!

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    1, 2: parking lot
    3: Sunchang
    4: BigLarry and Velocipus (I believe)
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    2. Landscape
    3. More climbing
    4. Cohenfive and ? climbing
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    38 Riders went to Henry Coe one day

    So here's the tally:

    A riders: 10
    B riders: 7
    C riders: 18
    D riders: 0
    B/C gap riders: 2 (more later on the confusion caused by this ride)
    Crazy rider: 1 (Fast Eddy shows up after all and does own thing, as usual)

    TOTAL: 38 riders from MBTR at Henry Coe today!

    Oh, we also counted the number coming back and it finally equaled the number going out with a lot of math and figuring.

    In general, everyone rode within the class they started. Everyone rode very well and averaged very good speeds. Even the C ride averaged 5.2 MPH, above my expectation. Most groups added bonus loops and still came in between 2:30 and 4:00 PM.

    The rides also ended pretty much together too. Amazingly, the B and C rides merged at exactly at the same time going down Grapevine. The A group was only a few minutes behind, but had a couple flats at the very end of their ride that got some of them in an hour or more later.

    What helped the good ride flow was the great trail markings by Charlie going ahead and marking the trail perfectly with the orange tags, which I removed at the end. Everyone was helped by the maps made by Dan51. So we didn't waste much time in navigating. Also the three groups meant everyone was going at a similar speed without too much wait for regrouping.

    As I was giving ride instructions, park ranger Cameron Bowers saw the huge group gathering in the lot and had a lot of words with me. He said we should have informed the Rangers. He said we needed to inform them so the Forestry Service could have helicopters on standby, or something like that. I mentioned I called the Henry Coe HQ three times and was blown off, saying why was I bothering them to tell them we got a group riding there. I also said I couldn't get a straight answer as to the status of the Coit Rd. washout. Ranger Bowers said I proabably was talking to a volunteer who didn't know better. He ended up letting us go. I suppose 38 riders X $4/car buys some influence.

    [size=4]Great ride happened today! Went well. Everyone had fun. Everyone got back without problems. I'm happy too. [/size]


    More later. For now I want to say to the other leaders who did so much work:

    [size=4]Thanks Charlie!!!! Doing all the scouting and trail work and marking was magnificent![/size]
    [size=4]Thanks Dan!!!! Helping with all the plans and making up the detailed map was super![/size]
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    And thanks to many others, Fast Eddy, Plim, and others who offered great advice. [/size]
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    1. 8 legged friend
    2. Larry down to Kelly lake
    3. lunch time at Kelly lake
    4. This way, not this way...
    5. On the way to Domino Pond
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    1. Domino pond
    2. On Domino Pond
    3. Last pic

    Larry and others, thanks for putting together the ride. It was a great time.
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    A man with a plan who made it grand

    What a ride that was at Henry Coe today. I made it twice as hard for myself by riding with my 3 favorite gears. Ohhh! Man did I pay for it. Almost 40 people got a chance to play their music at band camp today, and we all played very well

    Charlie’s A class had 10 front men that sang all day long.

    Dan’s B class had 8 that ripped cords in the guitar section.

    Larry’s C class had close to 20 that rumbled drums in the rhythm section.

    The music sounded so sweet today. You should try out this Band camp it is a lot of fun.

    Larry’s information made it so easy for a player to find out witch class they needed to be in. Great job to all.

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    Newbie to pic posting question...

    My photos are too big (~500k apiece). How do I reduce the file size? Thanks. Never posted pics before.

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    More Pix

    That was well worth the trip! Thanks Plim for the ride.
    The B ride went off without a hitch. I heard 4,400' of climbing
    8-Track was thinking about continuing on with the A ride and I was about to follow him... Man am I glad he stuck with the B ride.
    Here are some fotos:

    1.Pre Ride Meeting
    2. Larry layin' it down
    3.Ranger Bowers giving us the green light.
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    more pix2

    1.Lanscape
    2. Anza? rest stop
    3. Dan? (someone help me out. I don't know his mtbr name... I suck)
    4.jrm
    5.The Law
    6. me and my camera strap
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    Looks like you had fun

    Looks like you had fun! Looking forward to those famous BigLarry elevation profiles. Please tell me that cohenfive did the A ride. I had a nice ride today too.

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    Even though I had to bow out of the A ride halfway through (and felt like a loser for doing so), I had a great time. You A guys are hella fast! At least I discovered a new little singletrack section while riding alone along Wagon Road on my way back to Lyman-Wilson and the parking lot.

    You know what I liked about riding with the group yesterday? Everyone was so damn happy. Being with 35+ riders out ready to have a good time, talking and laughing, joking about the tough climbs - I just couldn't help but have fun.

    Of course the perfect weather for a Coe ride, the scenery, and the post-ride brew didn't hurt either.

    Thanks to everyone for being there, and special thanks to BigLarry, Charlie, Dan and Shiloh for leading and organizing.

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    Logged in to mtbr since 6:30 this morning <--- loser!

    I got up way earlier than normal today cause I was hungry!! Damn Coe!! Good vibes from the ride though.

    The real question is... who's riding today with those sore legs. C'mon, 2 loops at demo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Logged in to mtbr since 6:30 this morning <--- loser!

    You calling me a loser, or yourself?

    If it's me, I at least have an excuse - I can't sleep 'cause of back pain.

    Man, 6:30am on a Sunday is a boring time.

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    Ride report A group

    Time: 7 hrs, 4:24 moving
    Miles: 31.47
    Participants: 10 in the A group
    Cool, borderline cold, windy at times.

    Route (with map based valley to peak summation notes)
    Park at Hunting Hollow
    Up Gilroy Hot Springs and Coit Roads, Anza, Jackson, Elderberry Springs, Rock Tower, and Elderberry Springs trails 850 2,600 1,750
    Down Jackson & Wasno roads, and Kelly Lake Trail to Kelly Lake
    Up Coit and Willow Ridge Roads 1,900 2,400 500
    Down White Tank Spring, Rose Dam trails
    SE Pacheco Creek Trail to Pacheco Camp
    Up Coit Road, Live Oak Spring Trail, Coit Road, Coit Dam Trail 1,700 2,400 700
    Down Coit Dam Trail to Coit Lake
    Up Coit Dam Trail, Willow Ridge Road 2,100 2,350 250
    Down Cross Canyon Trail
    Up Cross Canyon Trail, Coit Road 1,450 2,500 1,050
    Down Wasno Road, Domino Pond, Cattle Duster, Coit Spring, and Grapevine trails
    Coit and Gilroy Hot Springs Road to parking
    Minimun elevation gain: 4,250

    Mechanicals/crashes: DMFT had two flat tires. WhuGmiT hit the rocks at that last drop in the Grapevine rock garden - "I'm okay!". Yeah, how do you feel this morning? (WhuGmiT wins the award for most exuberant rider of the group!) And there was that...that...I don't know what to call it...that thing Joseph-da-trog did at the top of Cross Canyon. I was mostly amazed you had the energy to hop so high after that climb!

    It was a hectic day so I didn't get a lot of pictures; if you would like to see some pictures of where we went I have a lot of pics from my pre-rides in this thread.

    Okay, here's what I have from yesterday:

    Hunting Hollow parking lot 9:15am:



    A and B groups at the top of the Anza to Elderberry climb:



    The A group made it to Pacheco Camp about 12:30, here's a few pictures of lunch:









    55° at Pacheco Camp:



    Here's DMFT's second flat, a pinch flat incurred slamming the rocks in that stream bed right near the Coyote Creek entrance. (The first was just after leaving Pacheco Camp when someone noted out loud that there hadn't been any crashes or mechanicals...never even think that thought much less say it out load...I'm glad that statement merely caused a flat tire because we were maximum distance from home at that point):





    (btw - for every who thought my miniaturized floor pump was great, it is a Topeak TurboMorph w/Dial Gauge, sku#TM-2DG)

    We easily beat the 6:30 sunset. I was the last to leave, here's the lot at 5pm:



    A few of us had dinner at (actually behind) Super Taqueria in Morgan Hill. I was surprised to find Specialized's HQ next door. I knew it's in Morgan Hill but have never seen it before:



    I'm getting waaaaay off topic but you gotta like the parking lot markings:



    The "Thanks" section:

    A group - you guys were great, you made my job easy. I hope you all don't hate me for all those lies I told (how many times did I say "...and then it's all downhill to the parking lot"...) - I just wanted you to see it all. It was great suffering with you guys!

    francois and his SportLegs - he tried to help us mortals by passing out SportLegs capsules. Thanks but I wish it was that easy! (francois showed amazing pace on a "slow ride" - can you imagine when he's trying?) Oh and thanks too for mtbr.com.

    Fast Eddy - good to see you for a least a little while. It should have been you showing-off these trails.

    Plim - thanks for leading us through WhiteTank/RoseDam. Sorry that you had to exit early.

    Dan & Shiloh - good to see you guys again. I'm only hearing good things about the B ride so "good job"!

    Zorg - somehow we never met? Too bad because I want to understand why a "slow ride" was instigated by someone with the tag line "Faster is not always better, but it's always more fun"? I don't know what you did but great job in starting this ride.

    Big Larry - Big thanks to Lorenzo Grande for all the work and grief he went through with the payoff of the shortest ride. Text book unselfishness.

    /Charlie
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSRguy
    My photos are too big (~500k apiece). How do I reduce the file size? Thanks. Never posted pics before.

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    I would suggest downloading Picassa2. Select the pictures, choose export. I suggest 700 pixels, 80% quality.

    http://picasa.google.com/index.html

    There's a lot of options but this is the best and it is free.

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    Smooth Riding - Almost

    So taking care of 38 good MTB riders full of energy wanting to play in Henry Coe is like herding cats in a mouse field. As the ride grew bigger, I also worried that we only had 3 leaders who knew Henry Coe, and little problems could easily cascade into bigger problems as attention was taken to solve a little problem allowed others to occur. And we had no reserve leadership. I had so many worries:

    1.A rider would need to be carried out, maybe on helicopter
    Didn't happen - very minor injuries only.
    2. A bike would need to be carried out with big delay, maybe on shoulders
    Didn't happen either - only a couple flats right at the end.
    3. With various little problems, the ride would slowly drag into dark.
    With conservative ride distances and everyone riding in proper class, pace was kept and most were back by 3PM
    4. We'd loose some riders and need to go on search and rescue.
    Oops, happened. But only a minor and temporary glitch.

    Herding MTB'rs
    I had the worst job keeping track of 18 riders. There was also a wide range of abilities. Many went way ahead while I was back with the stragglers. The lead went ahead too far a couple times, even down to Kelly Lake, and missed the D ride stop point. So we all did C ride, but they all were up for it. In fact, A and B rides also did bonus loops out in Henry Coe, but many skipped the Anza at then end - a good trade off really.

    A couple times I caught the lead group going very much the wrong way and was able to just call them back in time.

    The only real problem was quite confusing at the time, but I put it together finally.

    Looking for Jimmy
    I met Jimmy (apbt?) on the Demo ride and he's shown up with me on several other rides. He's somewhat quiet but a real nice guy and I always very much enjoy seeing and chatting with him on a ride. I'd like to see him come on some more rides together. He a good prepared rider and generaly follows instructions very well, so he's the last guy I'd suspect would become a problem, and I'm still not sure how he got stranded. But that's how things go sometimes.

    Jimmy and his friend started with the B rider group. When I got down to Kelly Lake, the A and B riders had departed already. While eating lunch, someone mentioned they saw Jimmy go down to the outhouse before I arrived with the stragglers. Then I didn't see Jimmy after a while and asked around. Someone said he left with his friend at the tail of the B ride. Jimmy's between a B and C, so I figured that will be Dan's responsibilty. We all had counts and I had my original 18, so I figured Dan would surely wait for Jimmy to get his count.

    Once we left and got up top to Coit and Wasno where I knew I'd have radio range with Dan, I called him and asked if he had his count. He said yes he did. I then asked if he had Jimmy with him. He then paused a long while and said "Who's Jimmy?" We then had a debate about if anyone really saw Jimmy or some other riders in an independent group. I then was wondering if I was mistaken about seeing Jimmy in the lot, since he didn't ride with the C/D group. And everyone had their counts.

    So I went on down Domino with the C group, thinking everyone had their counts, so Jimmy HAD to be safe in some group. Since I didn't want to loose any more riders, I went in front and slowed down to the pace of the rear, keeping everyone tight in line. With perfect timing, we the met with the B group coming on Grapevine as we came down Domino. I then talked with Dan and his group and confirmed he didn't have Jimmy. I know Jimmy is between a C and B rider, so if he was with the A group or had tried, a big problem was happening. But it was more likely he somehow got stranded in spite of the counts. There was still a debate if the rider was even Jimmy.

    The merged B/C/D group headed down Grapevine, and I was was at the end with three of the stragglers. As I went down, I finally decided I had to go find Jimmy. With the faster C riders with Dan, I told the 3 slower riders with me to stay put for a while. I told them they were at a point on Grapevine where all the A riders would come through, no matter what loop. And I would be back for them as well, they just had to stay put for me or the A riders. I wanted to go to the intersection of Cross Canyon and Coit Rd, which was strategically where anyone lost would come back through, and that point also gave me radio reception to both Charle still out with the A group, and Dan on the other side with the B/C group, so as to help relay messages and search parties. I used my GPS to find a short route to that point on the ridge and arrived within 25 minutes of ride/pushing of my bike up the hill.

    A few minutes after I arrived at Coit Rd and Cross Canyon intersection, a number of equestrians came climbing out of Cross Canyon. They said they had met two riders on Willow Ridge heading out deep into the park towards Mississippi Lake and the Orestimba Wilderness. The equestrians turned them around and sent them back to the Coit Rd. bail route.

    At this point, alarm bells went off. We DEFINITELY had two riders not in a group. They weren't included in the counts somehow. And they were wandering around lost. And I had some C riders waiting for me to come back while the other 14 C riders were finding their own way. Bad scenario.

    I radioed Dan to count the 14 C riders that merged with him so we didn't loose any more. We were at the last part of Grapevine where it was hard to get lost anyway. I then went partway down Cross Canyon to radio Charlie to be on the look out and/or form search rescue party for Jimmy. Just as I finished talking to Charlie, I was sooooo happy to see Jimmy climbing up out of Cross Canyon. He said his friend was behind him. He said that he was trailing the B ride, but figured he'd just do his own thing since he somehow got left at the lake after the B ride left. I'm still now sure how that happened but I'm thinking that the A/B ride did their counts after the A/B split into the separate groups and didn't total that to the sum while mixed.

    I wanted to get back to my C riders waiting. So when we didn't see his friend after a while, I reviewed with Jimmy the Coit Rd. bail out route. Or he could come down Grapevine with the A riders. Charlie told me on the radio that the A group was climbing out of Cross Canyon behind Jimmy's friend. So I told Jimmy to wait for the A group, let them know what he was doing, and then go on. His friend would be between the A group and Jimmy at the top and for sure taken care of. Indeed Jimmy did what I said and told Francois the one up first (big surprise) that he was taking Coit Rd. back.

    I headed back to my three C group guys and was happy to see they'd obeyed and stayed there for 45 minutes or more waiting for me. We were thinking of doing the bonus Anza singletrack, and headed part way up. But I got antzy about getting back to Hunting Hollow and getting the C count before people left. So we instead bailled and went full speed back to camp. A couple riders had indeed left, but we were able to get the fully 18 count.

    In all, I only lost an hour. Also fortunately occuring the end of the ride, the other C riders weren't affected by the thin leadership gap. They just had to go down hill and fortunately had merged the B riders to follow.

    So in all, it was only a minor issue, fortunately. That this was the worst was a great relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35
    Zorg - somehow we never met? Too bad because I want to understand why a "slow ride" was instigated by someone with the tag line "Faster is not always better, but it's always more fun"? I don't know what you did but great job in starting this ride.
    /Charlie
    My tagline is only for the downhill portion of the ride We might have chitchatted in the morning, but there were so many people that it was hard to keep track of the names.

    Thanks again to all for the efforts you guys put into the ride, it was an awesome introduction to Coe.
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    The Gathering

    1.The parking lot - it got even more full
    2. Me giving instructions from my view point. Everyone listened well and things went smoothly (pretty much)
    Instructions were interuppted by Ranger Bowers asking if I had arranged for the helicopter to fly 100' over our head on the group ride. Pete, I should have listend to you!!
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    the F ride

    Add two more riders to your count. Having not the skills to wake up early, I and my friend did the "F" ride, ah "Freelance", ride. We actually crossed paths with two of the groups, and removed flags that BigLarry missed, so that makes us virtually part of your ride.

    21 miles, 3.5 hours, unknown vert.

    Was sad to see that Crest Trail had been bulldozed. Also noticed that equestrians did a bit of branch clipping on Cross Canyon. Trail work is something that more of us should do. Grizzley really needs some care.

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    The CLIMB

    1. The Anza / Jackson bonanza of a climb
    2. C Riders at the top of Jackson / Elderberry
    3. Same with view of surrounding area.
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    Elderberry Springs

    1. Sung Chang
    2. Bill (who I rode with at the Plunge)
    3. ??? (Jerry?)
    4. A technical section of Elderberry. A deep rut went down the middle of the trail with big rocks and drops. Most walked this section, but I managed to balance on the thin berm and get past the tree in the way to clean this section.
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