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    helicopter bill, $24k. hospital bill...

    $49k. Kids to brighten up your day... priceless!!

    Wsup everybody. today is a good day. I had little pain and I stayed alert most of the day.

    The first 8 days were rough. A couple days, I just wanted to pass.

    thanks ror the well wishes. i cannot believe the outpouring from mtbarrrr! My wife is A+++ btw. she's solid as a rock and is 1 million % supportive!

    My left hand will be in a cast for 5 more weeks. My teeth will need to get done in three months.

    I'll be loaning out my bikes btw. The bmc, the niner and my cross bike. I'd be much happier if they are put to good use.

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    good to see family there with ya - glad you are doing better. No offence but I hope to never have your sig line

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    Kids can make the worse day better!!

    I can empathize with the one-finger typing thing. In high school I was hit by a car while riding to school. Bad news was I landed right on the 'funny bone', meaning nerve damage that lasted 3-4 weeks. I literally had to type ALL homework and classwork for the whole time. Math sucks that way.

    Hang in there Francis. I'm really, really glad to hear your crash wasn't worse. Hope to see you hitting the trails in the near future.

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    Francois,

    Glad to see that you and the family are dealing well. The smiles tell a huge story. Hope that you heal up well and quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    I'll be loaning out my bikes btw. The bmc, the niner and my cross bike. I'd be much happier if they are put to good use.
    Well, I don't think I want to borrow the BMC.

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    Glad you are healing up well, Francois!

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    Frances,
    Good to see your doing alright. I felt like rolling up in a ball when I heard what happened. It's great to have the support of your family and the rest of us out here. Get healed.

    It never cost that much in Hawaii for a chopper ride, also, your bikes are too small, plus I have my own 29ers .

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    Get well quickly, Francois. We all miss you!!!!

    Your crash scared the heck out of me. You are one of the most talented riders that I know... and if this could happen to you

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    Good to hear you're in good spirits and on a healing plan. Are you researching full-face helmets in your spare time?

    As for the cost, hopefully insurance is taking care of the bills. It probably hurts worse to know you'll be off the bikes for a while.

    Rest up!!!
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    un b f ing leavable

    Most of all I hope the 3yo isn't running for the hills every time she sees your now-ugly mug.

    We drank every sip in your honor up in D'ville. I also skipped a couple stunts for one reason or another. I found out from Big Boulder on the shuttle on Friday.

    I say you're good for an LG creek trail kids ride. Don't loan out the retro.

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    Well, ya still look like Francis (that's a good thing!)

    Kids are damn cute... Looks like daughter wants to be like dad... Just make sure she avoids those double squishy bikes and goes straight for the 29er.

    I've very pleased to see you on the boards and happy to know that you have a great support network. You've done a lot for us Ultra Lord. I think I speak for many when I say we'd do alot for you. i look forward to seeing you on the trails again.

    BTW... If all works well, I'll be heading to Demo next weekend. If I leave the GPS at home, there'll be room on the bars if you wanna come along for the ride. I promise I'll ride around the logs.

    Get better homie!

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    Thanks for posting the update, especially the pic with your kids.

    Heal well, and we hope to see you out on the trail again.

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    Good to hear from you, Francios...

    you always have such a great attitude. Keep us updated because we like you and miss you. You know if you need anyhing just ask and it shall be done. I do hope you heal quickly and with as little pain as possible.

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    Ouch!

    You need some extra pain killer, just for the Hospital bill.

    And even at that price, you haven't even seen the dental bills yet! Hope you have good insurance.


    When I took a 30 MPH tumble down a dirt road and went to the ER, my bill was only $8K, mostly for a couple CAT scans of my guts that were hurting a lot. My out of pocket deductible was $2K. (I'm sure my insurance will soon put in a non-MTB clause.) I used the bill to good use by convincing my wife that a better bike wouldn't have rolled on me, and would have saved us money. That's the story of how I got my Heckler. And it's mostly true, my Heckler has reduced my spills more than 10-fold over the Trek Fuel.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Hope the healing goes well for you.
    When I saw the photos I actually thought you looked way better than I expected.

    The cost of that flight is amazing. You could go to Europe and back 20 times for that price.

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    Francois,
    Best Wishes for a quick recovery. Looks like those kids make it all feel better. At least you'll have plenty of play time while off the bikes!

    Get well,
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    heart surgery was hella cheaper!!!!

    Kids make it all better. Hope you're feeling more like yourself a little more each day. Thinking healing thoughts your way. Peace! bb

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    Good to hear from you Francis! I totally understand the frustration of typing with one hand. I broke my elbow after getting hit on my road bike last year and there were some tough days. It's hard not being as active as you're used to but it looks like you've got really good company to prevent you from lapsing into self-pity and depression.

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    No Tour

    Well it looks like you are out for the Tour, but the Vuelta is definitely a possibility.

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    Gottdamm.

    I hope you're going to spend some of this free time researching how to lower hospital costs. That is focking amazing.

    Then you can run for governor. I'd vote for ya.

    Glad you're on the mend. Want to borrow my NordicTrack?

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    Look'n better allready Francois

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    Francis,
    I heard about your fall from Kyle while at D'ville...
    Glad to see you on the mend.

    The entire MTBr family is with you...

    BTW just filled out my health ins survey on new health care...they asked if I had fallen all the way to the ground in the last 12 months?
    Since it wasn't while standing, I left out landing on my shoulder a month ago!

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    Glad to see you heading in the right direction healthwise, FC. Hope to see you soon, good as new, leaving me in the dust again.

    Make sure you get some bling on the teeth! Diamonds? Maybe a tough material suitable for opening bottle caps?

    Oh, and if you want someone to try the Kermit Niner for a while, I'm your guy. (Jeez, now I feel so dirty. Like I only replied to ask for your bike, and don't actually care about you. Sigh. Take this paragraph out? No! I want to try that bike! ;-) )

    Looks like it's good to have family. Maybe my Sweety's on to something with her desire to have one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    ...Hope to see you soon, good as new, leaving me in the dust again...

    Looks like it's good to have family. Maybe my Sweety's on to something with her desire to have one...
    Who else would figure to put on a sympathy cast, than a loving young daughter? That's so cute.

    But Mike, I hereby take first dibs on riding with Francois after his recovery! I'll show him NO sympathy. My only chance to ever be faster than him, being on opposite ends of the MTBR speed spectrum, and I"m not going to miss that opportunity!
    But I don't think it will matter. He won't need my sympathy, even if I let him ride the SS and I go with a full geary, on DH of course.
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    so does that mean, assuming a fullface is on the way, we can plan a demo reunion ride sometime around July 31st! Okay, maybe just a LG Creek ride with cooler in tow. We still have a couple of beers waiting for you from the beer bash..

    Glad to see you doing better! The family support is amazing!

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    You and the family are looking good bro'. Let's plan a ride the first weekend in August. I'm free the whole weekend.

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    Here's hoping

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    $49k. Kids to brighten up your day... priceless!!
    ... your insurance is taking care of the bulk of that.
    I've been keeping pretty quiet about this whole thing but you have been in my thoughts a lot lately. Even when you crash you go overboard, maximum carnage, in front of a big crowd, helicopter exit. Francis doesn't do anything by halves

    Kids are awesome, and a supportive wife and family is a treasure beyond counting sounds like you are blessed.

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    Glad to see you're healing FC.

    Thank god for insurance.


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    you look great man, possibly an improvement!

    Great to see you recovering well m'boy, very happy to see and hear.

    cheers from Brad and Nic!


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    At the risk of pushing the recovery too much, I second the idea of a reunion ride at Demo. This time we should have more than enough time to apply for the fire/bbq permit.
    fc planned such a good gathering but didn't get to enjoy it, so... we'll try again.

    Good to see the kids surrounding papa in his time of need. You have a great/supportive wife; lucky man.

    Heal quick. We miss ya on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gre
    ... your insurance is taking care of the bulk of that.
    ahhh insurance... I have it but not that good i think. i think i'll have to call Thom of demo forest to fill up some some helivac justification forms.

    We'll see. I know I'm going to get wallet-dinged for sur though. So I ain't buying no latte's and bike parts for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bones
    you look great man, possibly an improvement!

    Great to see you recovering well m'boy, very happy to see and hear.

    cheers from Brad and Nic!
    sup brad, don't you have some news to share with everyone???

    I need some bone-crackin man. get yo butt down here.

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    Hey Francis

    We missed you @ D'ville. Many brews were hoisted in your honor.

    Maybe we can do some Tahoe in early fall....

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    bones?

    Hey I was thinking bout you guys the other day in D'ville. The last time I saw you two was the gathering 3 years ago? Hope all is well for you guys up there in Canland.

    News?.....might there be a lil one? A baby bone cracka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleMTB
    health ins survey ... asked if I had fallen all the way to the ground in the last 12 months?
    Fell? No. I rode most of the way down.

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    Best Wishes Francois!

    Sorry you ( and your wallet ) got dinged up. Hope your kids take it easy on you. We ought to have a welcome back Francios ride when you return! Take care!
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    Well since it's out there

    I present the Velo-Belly. Nic (aka the singlespeed poster grrl) is 20 weeks prego with our first one.

    She still averages 27kph with the "clump" riding shotgun.

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    Glad to see you're doing well

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    ahhh insurance... I have it but not that good i think. i think i'll have to call Thom of demo forest to fill up some some helivac justification forms.

    We'll see. I know I'm going to get wallet-dinged for sur though. So I ain't buying no latte's and bike parts for now.

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    Believe me, I know the hospital scam. The hospital charges a humungous amount initally. In my case $60k for a few days in the hospital. But the insurance company has to pay only a small fraction of that because they have a contract with the hospital that dictates what things cost. The hospital then uses the difference as a tax write off.

    Oh, my helivac from Death Valley NP to Las Vegas was only $12k. What a bargain.

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    To quote Zonic Man

    "That's hot!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    $49k.

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    Heal fast FC.

    Liquid food ain't so bad .. is it ?

    Cheers.
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    Through all of that you're able to crack a smile... Hope you get to feeling better soon! Rest up, the trails are waiting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    This time we should have more than enough time to apply for the fire/bbq permit.
    fc planned such a good gathering but didn't get to enjoy it, so... we'll try again.
    We could probably get the use of my friends property again. They may even have the well and latrine built by then.

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    Hey Francios,

    I've been out of town for about 2.5 weeks and I heard about your accident at the ROMP meeting last night. I'm glad to hear that you're on the mend and in good spirits.

    Good luck with your recovery and we'll hit the trails again sometime soon. Perhaps a single speed sunday in Santa Cruz.

    Take care,

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    Dude

    Sorry to here about the crash. I know it want slow you down, you probably all ready have a new method of torture figured out.

    Get well soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jilm
    We ought to have a welcome back Francios ride when you return! Take care!
    I wish you would quit telling people what to do!!

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    Nice!

    Wow! Bro you are looking good and in good sprits as always. You cannot even tell that the stitch was even there. Before you know you will sporting a new grill and reconfigured mud flap. I am so happy that nothing will be ride threatening for the future.

    Alex-da-trog and I were so shook up and nervous after that, I heard some riders walked section of saw pit after the crash form hell. We all stayed in check for the rest of that day.

    Your homecoming should be at Demo so we can all come and welcome you back. The secrete LAND will be prefect for your home coming party as Tim has stated. There is plenty of room for everyones car, bikes and drinking cyclist eating MEAT!! No need for permit. Just give us all a HEADS UP for when you are ready bro?

    I have dibs on the Retort also. So pick me, pick me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gakster
    Heal fast FC.

    Liquid food ain't so and .. is it ?

    Cheers.
    I'm gaining weight actually. On my first couple of days I ate a jug of hammer gel. The past week all I ate were smoothies and chocolate shakes. This week I started eating nan bread and hummus from Trader Joe's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph-da-trog
    Wow! Bro you are looking good and in good sprits as always. You cannot even tell that the stitch was even there. Before you know you will sporting a new grill and reconfigured mud flap. I am so happy that nothing will be ride threatening for the future.

    Alex-da-trog and I were so shook up and nervous after that, I heard some riders walked section of saw pit after the crash form hell. We all stayed in check for the rest of that day.

    Your homecoming should be at Demo so we can all come and welcome you back. The secrete LAND will be prefect for your home coming party as Tim has stated. There is plenty of room for everyones car, bikes and drinking cyclist eating MEAT!! No need for permit. Just give us all a HEADS UP for when you are ready bro?

    I have dibs on the Retort also. So pick me, pick me.

    Here are some tezzers
    Joe, What's a retort? You're not talking about my cruiser are you?

    It was really good to see you that day. Thank Alex too for all the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bones
    I present the Velo-Belly. Nic (aka the singlespeed poster grrl) is 20 weeks prego with our first one.

    She still averages 27kph with the "clump" riding shotgun.

    b. (SSUP STEVE???)
    Nice work Brad! How many pounds have you gained? Keep us posted awright!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtoadsc
    Hey Francios,

    I've been out of town for about 2.5 weeks and I heard about your accident at the ROMP meeting last night. I'm glad to hear that you're on the mend and in good spirits.

    Good luck with your recovery and we'll hit the trails again sometime soon. Perhaps a single speed sunday in Santa Cruz.

    Take care,

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    Good to hear from you Mark. Make sure you get some new trails legalized by the time I get back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph-da-trog
    The secrete LAND will be prefect for your home coming party as Tim (Travis) has stated. There is plenty of room for everyones car, bikes and drinking cyclist eating MEAT!! No need for permit. Just give us all a HEADS UP for when you are ready bro?
    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Travis. I just wanted to say two things.

    - Your brownies are awesome.
    - You're getting full travel out of your fork.


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    Travis - the new slowest rider. Look out Big Larry you got new competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim

    Oh, and if you want someone to try the Kermit Niner for a while, I'm your guy. (Jeez, now I feel so dirty. Like I only replied to ask for your bike, and don't actually care about you. Sigh. Take this paragraph out? No! I want to try that bike! ;-) )

    Looks like it's good to have family. Maybe my Sweety's on to something with her desire to have one...
    Hey Plim, yes you can have the bike. You can pick it up from my house any time. I'll ask you to post a review on it and give it to the next guy who wants to try it out. Email me at fcebedo@yahoo.com. Rensho is taking the BMC and Derek is taking the Retrotec.

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    How much??

    I assume you mean

    $2400 for helicopter

    $4900 hospital?
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    Oops!

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Joe, What's a retort? You're not talking about my cruiser are you?

    It was really good to see you that day. Thank Alex too for all the help.

    Francois


    Retro Tech yah! yah! that one.............. You know I am just joshing with ya in all.

    Trogs are always prepared to make things happen when need be. I will tell Alex myself.

    Take care bro and see you soon.
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    Niiiiiiiiice!

    Quote Originally Posted by bones
    I present the Velo-Belly. Nic (aka the singlespeed poster grrl) is 20 weeks prego with our first one.

    She still averages 27kph with the "clump" riding shotgun.

    b. (SSUP STEVE???)
    Congrats to the both of you!

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    P.S. That's HOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullit71
    I assume you mean

    $2400 for helicopter

    $4900 hospital?
    Hey, go back to Canada!

    I'm starting to get a better understanding of the healthcare problems of this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Hey, go back to Canada!

    I'm starting to get a better understanding of the healthcare problems of this country.

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    Our son was born last year, and his/wifes hospital bill was about the same as yours +/- $1k. Fortunately we were able to drive mom to the hospital, however a helicopter picking her up would have been cool.

    A few years ago we had to pick up ~$500/year of our health care costs from work ... that one birth covered about 100 years of contributions. ya!

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    What???

    So you are telling me that a helicopter ride to the hospital is $24,000?? That seems almost impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    I'm gaining weight actually. On my first couple of days I ate a jug of hammer gel. The past week all I ate were smoothies and chocolate shakes. This week I started eating nan bread and hummus from Trader Joe's.

    Francois

    LOL !

    Thinks of it as a 6 month carbo-loading regime.

    Take good care my friend.

    Cheers.
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    sorry to hear about the accident, i've been travelling for the past 2 weeks and just saw this. good thing is you have a fantastic support network at home, and i guess this crew's ok too!! glad to see you are able to take this event with the proper perspective. i hope for a speedy recovery for you!!

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    What a difference between states.

    Francis,

    Dennis and I were talking about this and we couldn't believe the difference. My ride in the helicopter in Utah last year was seen as an ambulance ride (covered by my insurance). We ended up only having to pay for the ER x3. I'm starting to see how lucky we were with all the unexpected expenses.

    Is it just California that's charging or is it because of your insurance company? Mine isn't stellar, but I might not be growling at them if they are actually one of the 'better' ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullit71
    So you are telling me that a helicopter ride to the hospital is $24,000?? That seems almost impossible.

    I'm surprised it wasn't higher. A trip to the hospital following a bike accident in a regular ground ambulance came in at $1500 last summer.

    I'm also very relieved to hear that your medical bills weren't higher. They add up frighteningly quickly.

    And if I haven't said it before, Here's wishing a rapid and full recovery.

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    not baaaaad...

    got my insurance bill today for the $24k helivac. Over the phone they said they don't have an air ambulance coverage but they might put my case up for review and possibly they'll cover 80%.

    anyway, the bill came today and I have to pay... $2250. I can handle that! Thank you lucky stars.

    On the $49k hospital bill, I'm pretty sure I won't have to pay anything. We'll see. Hopefully, I can save my money for my gangsta grill teeth.

    Here's some pics from today and yesterday. Special thanks to my parents who have been at my house almost everyday taking care the kids myself included.

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    Good job! Duplcate post?? Server Farted...

    Good to hear you're getting better! If I remember right, my shoulder incident ended up tallying to around $120k, including the surgery. Definitely explore your policy, and options, and get input/help on it. I managed to get my helivac fee dropped because of the axillary artery tear. A good primary physician, if you have one will know how to "interpret" the policy, and incident reports.

    Heal up quickly Man!! Let me know if you need anything.

    Obi..

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    Still better than via an IV, right??

    ..and is that a "Roam DVD" case I see sitting there for inspiration??

    ..better yet, for "advertising income" to pay the bills.

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