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    Great biking vehicle thats not a Taco? $5k budget...

    Love my sporty little Matrix XRS wagon with the bike rack on back, but it's not AWD. And I would like to do some winter trips to Taho to XC SKI/Snowshoe.

    I want to possibly take 4 people, mount up a 4bike rack to a hitch receiver.
    Maybe sleep in the back on a two day trip to NorthStar...

    Am I doomed to buying a Subaru Forester?(I do kind of like them anyway. The old square ones that look like a big rollerskate...Mostly driven by angry looking women with short hair...)

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    Chevy Suburban. It will haul 4 people, tons of gear, and hand a 4 bike rack easily. With the 3rd row out and the second row folded down, you have a good area that is 4ft by 8 ft. plenty of room to sleep and keep some gear in the truck. Also, you would have room to take 4 people and have skiis and snowboards inside. One from the early 2000s should be around $5k. I have one and have used it to drive non stop (except food and gas) from DE to CO with my cousin for a bike trip. I have also used it as a "basecamp" at Mt Washington in NH.

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    T100 with camper shell....

    No seriously I love Subarus. In the $5K range there is a lot of garbage but with a little hunting you should be able to find something pretty nice.

    You should check out an Outback too. Both models have simalar common issues; headgaskets being the most serious but it is not as common as the internet makes you believe.

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    I have an awesome T100 with a campershell that I'm about to put on the market for $5k. I'm the original owner and have taken great care of it. PM me if interested.

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    Older Subaru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailGoat View Post
    Chevy Suburban. It will haul 4 people, tons of gear, and hand a 4 bike rack easily. With the 3rd row out and the second row folded down, you have a good area that is 4ft by 8 ft. plenty of room to sleep and keep some gear in the truck. Also, you would have room to take 4 people and have skiis and snowboards inside. One from the early 2000s should be around $5k. I have one and have used it to drive non stop (except food and gas) from DE to CO with my cousin for a bike trip. I have also used it as a "basecamp" at Mt Washington in NH.
    I've got an 06 Tahoe (shorter in the rear of course), and would agree. When I am riding solo or after work, I like that the seats very quickly fold flat, and I can just throw the bike in the back and it's secure in the vehicle. I've got the Capitan's chairs in back and a 4-bike rack, and roof rack, so 4 in comfort + gear is very doable. Truck has 190k and has been very reliable as well. Bought it a few years back for 6k off Craigslist. Having cash ready to go gets you a better deal.

    With these older vehicles, it's only a few thousand more for a nicer one with lower miles. Money well spent, but it takes some time to locate a good one.

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    Suburban. The ultimate urban assault vehicle. I've had my 3/4 ton for almost 15 years now (bought it three years old) and it has quite simply been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. 3/4 ton may be more than you need, but the 5.3 and 6.0 are bullet proof. The upgraded 4L80e trans is best if you can get it. I don't know what I would get to replace it.

    I see the '00 through '04-ish 'burbs going for well under $5K.
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    My neighbors all love their Forresters!! Of course they're all over 80.

    I've seen some that are pimped out though. So wrong.
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    EEEK! Never get behind a Forrester. Nearly guaranteed to drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit. Almost as bad as following a Camry. Grrrr!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    EEEK! Never get behind a Forrester. Nearly guaranteed to drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit. Almost as bad as following a Camry. Grrrr!
    Or a VW bus entering the freeway. In this case though, the driver has good intent, just not the vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    EEEK! Never get behind a Forrester. Nearly guaranteed to drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit. Almost as bad as following a Camry. Grrrr!
    LOL. I scared the shit out of my CA native partner while driving on northern MN gravel forest roads. Something about 4 wheel drift and 70MPH made them nervous about being in my Forester at that particular moment.

    Hey, I was late for a race

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPee View Post
    LOL. I scared the shit out of my CA native partner while driving on northern MN gravel forest roads. Something about 4 wheel drift and 70MPH made them nervous about being in my Forester at that particular moment.

    Hey, I was late for a race

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    In my experience, you're an exception.

    Forresters with Q-Tips (read: old people with gray hair) at the wheel, are to be avoided at all costs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    EEEK! Never get behind a Forrester. Nearly guaranteed to drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit. Almost as bad as following a Camry. Grrrr!
    I have friend whose Forester has 300+ hp, larger than stock tires and a 2" lift.

    My Impreza has the stock engine but a decent lift and larger tires. Regularly catch and pass Tacoma and Jeep drivers on the nastier USFS roads here.

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    I'll throw out an oddball. Honda Element. I still love ours even though I drive the Tacoma full time now. Seats four, has AWD and a poly flooring so dirt, sand, mud etc really aren't a problem. There are multiple ways for 1-2 people to sleep inside and you can add on a tow hitch. Further bonus points by putting one of the rear seats up and sliding the front seat forward I can put my Bronson inside without having to take a wheel off.

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    4runner. easy to maintain like a tacoma, seats plenty of people (if you want it to) or fold down the backseats and have tons of room for car camping and adventures. I love mine. '93, 4WD, 110k miles.

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    +1 4Runner.

    300k mi on my 97, just put gas in it, change the oil when you remember. Maybe do tires every 5-10 years. Plugs every 100k, brakes the same. Clutch every 140k.

    Plus you can sleep in the back on memory foam without a $3,500 roof top tent setup, like those rich tacoma folk.

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    I'm not a fan of SUV's. Top heavy vehicles. This coming from a guy who used to do rock crawling trails in a Bronco II...

    My F150 SuperCrew is my do everything vehicle. Haul hay, or bikes. Air mattress across the back seat for camping too. But if it wasn't for the hay, I would be in a wagon.

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    I've never experienced such a Taco discrimination in my life.

    A smaller SUV sounds like the ticket. I vote 4-Runner as well.
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    Wagons, or whatever other name is given to extended hatchbacks, are what's popular out of the US. Non-Americans joke that SUVs offer nothing practical over a wagon, and are more for people who like to look down on others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Wagons, or whatever other name is given to extended hatchbacks, are what's popular out of the US. Non-Americans joke that SUVs offer nothing practical over a wagon, and are more for people who like to look down on others...
    if you are going to sleep/spend time in the back space (not seat) its nice to be able to sit up straight and have plenty of headroom. also, if your want to drive to remote places, the ground clearance and generally stronger driveline and suspension components are very practical advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    EEEK! Never get behind a Forrester. Nearly guaranteed to drive 5-10 mph under the speed limit. Almost as bad as following a Camry. Grrrr!
    haha..unless it is a white turbo forester driven by my wife..i swear she should wear Nomex and a helmet. she rockets that thing around. she has taken corners "questionably". i should sign her up for a trackday course so she can learn about a corner apex.

    and i dont think i can sleep in the back of one..and the hitch in back..i think you are limited to two bikes. so you will still need two on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    I'll throw out an oddball. Honda Element. I still love ours even though I drive the Tacoma full time now. Seats four, has AWD and a poly flooring so dirt, sand, mud etc really aren't a problem. There are multiple ways for 1-2 people to sleep inside and you can add on a tow hitch. Further bonus points by putting one of the rear seats up and sliding the front seat forward I can put my Bronson inside without having to take a wheel off.
    good idea!! not sure you can get one for $5 tho..and they are gutless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bicyclemech1 View Post
    Am I doomed to buying a Subaru Forester?
    Nope, you could buy an AWD Toyota Sienna minivan

    But seriously, I think one of those checks all your boxes. There are plenty of them on the big used car websites for 4-6k, with around 100k miles. They should go for another 100k miles easily.
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    If you could swing just a little more cash, an older Honda Pilot might be a good fit. Easily attach a big hitch rack and not look out of place, easily pack around you + 3 buds with gear, available with AWD, and super reliable to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    I'll throw out an oddball. Honda Element. I still love ours even though I drive the Tacoma full time now. Seats four, has AWD and a poly flooring so dirt, sand, mud etc really aren't a problem. There are multiple ways for 1-2 people to sleep inside and you can add on a tow hitch. Further bonus points by putting one of the rear seats up and sliding the front seat forward I can put my Bronson inside without having to take a wheel off.
    Damn good suggestion here! Buy the nicest/newest one you can afford and enjoy!

    I've seen early ones for sale in good condition for $2500.
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    Suburban is the answer if you can handle the gas mileage. You can sleep behind the second row and keep your bike inside when you park somewhere (not simultaneously). Captain's chairs for the second row make rear access very convenient.

    They are durable and parts are cheap and easy to get. They are easy to work on. You can find lots of them with 200k+ miles on them, so they will keep on running if you take care of them. The transmission on the 1500 is not as durable as on the 3/4 ton, but the 1/2 ton is cheaper to rebuild.

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    +2 4runner.

    A 96-2000 with a 3.4L engine as the generation before were recalled for head gasket issues. They have lots of room for storage and definitely can get you to the places you want.

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    CRV, Element, Subaru.Great biking vehicle thats not a Taco? k budget...-112_0904_20z-honda_element_camper-side_view.jpg
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    good idea!! not sure you can get one for $5 tho..and they are gutless.
    You can, but it will likely have higher mileage or some body damage unless you're patient and wait for a deal. They're not really gutless, the key is they run a vtech engine which means they make most of their power > 4.5k rpm so knowing when to step on it and when not to helps.

    MPG isn't great tho considering your throwing brick shaped car down the highway.

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    ^^ Good point on mpg. I'm thinking it's low 20's. But another vote for the Element! My g/f has one and we've camped out of it for up to a month at a time. The rear seats are easy to pop in and out. I have a Mazda CX-5 that I like a lot more (but it's out of your budget). It gets about 30 mpg, and it's pretty comfy to sleep in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iWiLRiDe View Post
    +2 4runner.

    A 96-2000 with a 3.4L engine as the generation before were recalled for head gasket issues. They have lots of room for storage and definitely can get you to the places you want.

    1988 through 1995 had a head gasket recall. In the mid 90's I had a 1988 4-Runner that had the head gasket recall. Mine was a salvaged title vehicle and I was not the original owner. Toyota stood by the recall and gave me a new block and lower end worth 6K. I was the last to get that. Everyone after me got the block and heads resurfaced. A loaner car for two weeks and a new motor from the heads down on a salvaged title vehicle. I was with Toyota previously but after that kind of customer service I've been with them ever since.
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    AWD Element is at the top of the list. But it is proving to be well above the budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicyclemech1 View Post
    Love my sporty little Matrix XRS wagon with the bike rack on back, but it's not AWD. And I would like to do some winter trips to Taho to XC SKI/Snowshoe.

    I want to possibly take 4 people, mount up a 4bike rack to a hitch receiver.
    Maybe sleep in the back on a two day trip to NorthStar...

    Am I doomed to buying a Subaru Forester?(I do kind of like them anyway. The old square ones that look like a big rollerskate...Mostly driven by angry looking women with short hair...)
    Extra set of snow tires. Winter tires matter more than AWD or 4wd. FWD with 4 snow tires is as good as any truck with all terrain's (if not better) since trucks have a higher center of gravity and will lose traction easier when roads don't stay straight any more. Heck, the Vail and Aspen police departments used FWD Saab's with snow tires for almost 30 years with no problem.

    I like the Toyota Sienna idea though. Looks like you can get a nice used one with under 140K for about $5K. And no Tacoma tax. Some even come with tow package/2" receiver so a 4 bike hitch rack is super easy.

    Here is a great link:
    https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...snow/index.htm

    I have a Land Cruiser (AWD) and Ram 2500 4wd truck. Have owned 4 Saab's way back when and each of those with snow tires were just as good if not better than the higher profile vehicles in the snow.
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    Just buy my 1995 Nissan pickup with less than 60k Miles. I will await your PM

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    Acura MDX. I got mine for $5k with 165,000 miles on it.

    It took 7 bikes from Oakland to Hurricane with no problem last year. 3 on top and 4 on the back.

    Gas mileage sucks. Around 20 on the highway, but down to 15 with three bikes on top.

    Other than that, it's Honda reliable and everything is comfortable and folds down easily. At 6'3" I can sleep on an air mattress in the back without having to angle myself.

    Plus it's unibody, handles like a tank in the snow, and has enough clearance to get up the Mills Peak fire road with no issues.

    I'm a happy owner at 220k miles and counting.

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    Honda Element. That car will do 300k+ easy.

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    I'd rather have a van than almost anything listed above.

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    Honda Element with one of these:

    https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...eid=2004202681

    Plenty of room for 4 bikes with their people & gear + don't have to park a minivan in shrinking Bay Area (I'm assuming...) spots when you're not up in Tahoe.

    +1 on being able to keep bikes inside w/o taking wheels off (easy in/out @ trailhead). Have slept in mine with my large dual susp 29er safely next to me on the way to races.

    Similarly, interior is very ski gear friendly and can handle 3 adults + skis easily inside. Will even do 4 people/gear inside if the two in the back don't mind a divider between them of 4 pairs of skis slotted between the seats (my kids don't mind).

    Can confirm combined mileage for an AWD in the 21-24 range, really the only downside to the car.

    2melow makes some good points about FWD and snow tires that CALTRANS will absolutely not care about during chain control. Get the AWD no matter what car you get for skiing Tahoe.

    Good luck, lots of great options!

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    RWD Volvo 240 and 740 wagons (with stickshift + turbo + LSD they were amazingly capable machines in all conditions). Such a shame they stopped making them, it seems as though they were too good for the status quo.
    one by nine works just fine but single speed is all ya need

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    RWD Volvo 240 and 740 wagons (with stickshift + turbo + LSD they were amazingly capable machines in all conditions). Such a shame they stopped making them, it seems as though they were too good for the status quo.
    Those are so sick. Super hard to find used in my experience, and when you do find one its been driven to the shitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    I have friend whose Forester has 300+ hp, larger than stock tires and a 2" lift.

    My Impreza has the stock engine but a decent lift and larger tires. Regularly catch and pass Tacoma and Jeep drivers on the nastier USFS roads here.

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    They built a Forester WRX (I don't think it was called that, maybe it was) and a co worker had one. That thing went! He entered a parking lot rally race with a buddy riding shotgun. Both has (road) bike helmets on because helmets were required. He said all he remembers about the race was driving around cones and their two heads bonking off each other constantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yahooo View Post
    I have an awesome T100 with a campershell that I'm about to put on the market for $5k. I'm the original owner and have taken great care of it. PM me if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Svahn View Post
    They built a Forester WRX (I don't think it was called that, maybe it was) and a co worker had one. That thing went! He entered a parking lot rally race with a buddy riding shotgun. Both has (road) bike helmets on because helmets were required. He said all he remembers about the race was driving around cones and their two heads bonking off each other constantly.
    In the early 2000s, Japan had an actual Forester STI, which came stock with the WRX STI engine, a turbo flat four at 310hp. There was also the Forester XT, which had a turbo and did around 225-235hp depending on year. People would bump up the turbo, or just replace the engine with the WRX STI engine.

    More recently, they've offered an S model with 265hp, using a WRX engine (2008-2013, IIRC). The current model (2014-present) is offered in a 276hp turbo flat four as well.

    Interesting fact: The Subaru Crosstrek, Outback and Forester have the same ground clearance as a Jeep Grand Cherokee. 8.7".
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    AWD Chevy Astro or GMC Safari.
    I've owned 2 as my beater camping/adventure vehicle.
    Good ground clearance, plenty of space (I routinely sleep in mine), surprisingly capable in snow and off road, built like tanks and so on. Parts are SUPER cheap and they're easy to work on.

    Bought my first one for $1700 with 240k. Proceeded to put another 100k on it without 1 single issue and sold it for $1500. Bought my current one with 110k for $5k and have put 240k on it with only very minor replacement parts. While my subie buddies are replacing their head gaskets and blown turbo's I'm partying. I'd buy another one no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    AWD Chevy Astro or GMC Safari.
    I've owned 2 as my beater camping/adventure vehicle.
    Good ground clearance, plenty of space (I routinely sleep in mine), surprisingly capable in snow and off road, built like tanks and so on. Parts are SUPER cheap and they're easy to work on.

    Bought my first one for $1700 with 240k. Proceeded to put another 100k on it without 1 single issue and sold it for $1500. Bought my current one with 110k for $5k and have put 240k on it with only very minor replacement parts. While my subie buddies are replacing their head gaskets and blown turbo's I'm partying. I'd buy another one no question.
    Not to say it won't happen to us, but my wife and I are at 450,000 miles between our two cars. We do all of our own maintenance, though, and do it regularly, so that might help ward off some problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sosburn View Post
    Those are so sick. Super hard to find used in my experience, and when you do find one its been driven to the shitter.
    I honestly wish Id never parted ways with any of my Volvos (1963 122S, 1963 1800, 1969/70 P1800S, 1970 142S, 1976 242GT, 1982 245 intercooled turbo wagon, 1987 745 intercooled turbo wagon). All of them were stickshift, modified with aftermarket goodies from IPD (suspension, engine upgrades) and various other sources (Iskendarian camshafts, Total Seal rings, etc.) including thousands of dollars of machine shop work engine work. The only car that had stock power output was the 1987 745 wagon, all others produced at least 50% more output at the flywheel than stock. All of them had LSD rearends, the craziest gear ratio was in the 122S with a 4.56:1 ratio mated to a Pow-R-Lok diff; that car was a handful (-2 camber, 0 caster, and 0.32" toe-in up front) but with the right finesse of the steering wheel and throttle one could take any corner at any speed not beyond their pay grade.
    one by nine works just fine but single speed is all ya need

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    AWD Chevy Astro or GMC Safari.
    I've owned 2 as my beater camping/adventure vehicle.
    Good ground clearance, plenty of space (I routinely sleep in mine), surprisingly capable in snow and off road, built like tanks and so on. Parts are SUPER cheap and they're easy to work on.
    My brother had a 1989 Astro van for 10 years or so. Camping, mountain biking, surf, windsurf machine. The rear was finished in carpet and paneling. The Chevy motor was a V6 which is the exact design as a 350 V8 with two cylinders cut off. Just as dependable as well. Great machine and perfect for what the OP is looking for. As you said great ground clearance. My brother and I made a trip to Lake Powell and then on to Moab with it once. Off roading to our camp sights pulling a jet ski trailer. The van never high centered the trailer sure did.
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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    [QUOTE=John Svahn;13497582]They built a Forester WRX (I don't think it was called that, maybe it was) and a co worker had one. That thing went!]

    My buddy did that mod to his Forester, pretty common. They call it an Angry Toaster.

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    one more vote for the element here. had one for a decade, used to fold up or just remove a rear seat and take my bike to work, then pull the bike out and ride after work. i traded that and my harley in for an f150 a while back, but theres a guy around the block from me with a camper top on his that he doesnt drive anymore and rents out on some air bnb type thing for cars... if u ever wanted to test one out or rent it. granted they only get 20 mpg but they are roomy as heck and really a super cool car if youre into the toaster on wheels functionality. i drove vw busses b4 that and felt like the element did all the same stuff except break down. lol.

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    A 89-98 Mazda MPV 4WD.

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    I own an Element that I bought used a couple of years ago. For your budget it will be hard to find a good one. I bought one with 200k on it and paid $3k. Figured I would have to do all the suspension and more, but after I put the work and money into it I would be all set for another 100k miles. This is somewhat true, but it has been a battle with everything that I've needed to replace, and still need to replace. In the end, I will have an Element that is still not worth much. If I had to do over I would have looked longer and found something better/newer, more in the 5-8k range.

    Anyway, the other limiting factor with the Element is the weight carrying capacity. I can't imagine loading 4 dudes and bikes and gear and not bottoming the suspension. I think the max cargo weight is like 600lbs.

    Good luck!

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    The great thing about cars these days is that, with most/many manufacturers, you can swap parts between them.

    My Impreza will soon be running Forester struts and springs, for example.

    You can almost certainly find used suspension at a scrapyard for very little.

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    Volvo v70 XC, look for an 06 or later

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    Yeah Volvo. We have our first one and I'm now a beleiber. My kid's is a 2004 V70 with 190k miles that we bought for $2k. It runs like a Swedish watch.

    Everything about this car is awesome not just because of the safety but also because of the way it drives. It seems that in the 2000's, Volvo really paid attention to accident avoidance instead of just accident survival. So it handles really well and all the details are impressive.

    There's some gotchas on key problems on some years so look out for those. And I imagine you need an XC70 for 4wd.

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    Trucks retain their value pretty well so generally are more than similar SUVs. Decent Nissan Xterra and Nissan Pathfinders can be found for pretty low.

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    1997 3.4L V-6 4WD 5 Speed Manual, 12.6" Front Rotors. 230,000 Miles. I bought it new in '97.

    If you look hard, you might find one around $5K

    The rear cargo area is EXACTLY 3 milk crates wide. I stack them 3 high. If you can't fit your entire camping expedition in 9 milk crates, you are bringing way too much crap.

    I found a General Motors drop-down bike rack on Craigslist for $60. I think it came with a Suburban or Escalade. I swapped the rubber drop stop spacer with a piece of mahogany so it has 2 drop heights. First stop is just enough to open the back hatch, second stop is 30" high. We use the lower height as a camp table & throw a bunch of chairs around it.

    And to the OP, I also have a Taco, but I only use it for solo rides. No safe way to lock the bikes up after the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    There's some gotchas on key problems on some years so look out for those.
    Heater core replacement comes to mind. My understanding is that the entire dash needs to be disassembled, and that a shop charges about $1,000.00 to do it.
    one by nine works just fine but single speed is all ya need

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    Im partial to my Eurovan. You can get a non poptop version for about $5k. It is by no means fast but handles reasonably well and is comfy. The MV models rear seats fold down into a bed. Theres a folding table in the back too. The small cooler under the jump seat is great for a cold drinks after a summer ride.

    Downside is the transmission. If it goes it will cost you $5k.



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    Ignore me and my Eurovan. I missed the AWD requirement.


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    +1 on the Pathfinder. I had the first gen (WD21) and then the 2nd gen (R50) and both are great (although gas mileage sucked). Paid $1K for the first gen (manual, 200K, 3.0 L 4WD) and $1850 for the second gen (automatic, 170K miles, 3.5L 4WD).
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    Toyota Highlander bought new 2005 I've put on 245,000 miles on it. I can sleep in it or get 2 bikes in without taking the wheels off. I can get a 10'2" longboard inside it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron m. View Post
    +1 on the Pathfinder.
    wow!! great deals!! i googled it. $5k buys a nice Nissan Xterra as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obviouslyme View Post
    Acura MDX. I got mine for $5k with 165,000 miles on it.

    It took 7 bikes from Oakland to Hurricane with no problem last year. 3 on top and 4 on the back.

    Gas mileage sucks. Around 20 on the highway, but down to 15 with three bikes on top.

    Other than that, it's Honda reliable and everything is comfortable and folds down easily. At 6'3" I can sleep on an air mattress in the back without having to angle myself.

    Plus it's unibody, handles like a tank in the snow, and has enough clearance to get up the Mills Peak fire road with no issues.

    I'm a happy owner at 220k miles and counting.
    Love the car, love the ride and all that. Never had an issue with it but being cautiously optimistic it will last a little longer. It's been great but at 160k miles, towing and taking the family out camping for 4-5 days with 2 kids, 4 bikes and dogs, I'm not sure I'm feeling comfortable taking the risk of breaking down. It's also a little too small space wise with all the gear involved. Not planning on getting rid of it but looking for a replacement that would accommodate our current needs.

    I've bought a 2500 Silverado but ended selling up because the thing was just too big to drive around town. I've looked at Toyota Sequoia but not particularly impressed by it. Looking for any recommendation and/or people who have been in my shoes. Something a little bigger, as pleasant to drive as the MDX and with a slightly more towing capacity considering the MDX all loaded with trailer struggles a bit climbing some of the passes in the Sierra Nevada.

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