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    Here's a vid I got from Ibis of a Gopro attached to a pole and helmet. Seems very smooth:

    HERO3 Test- around JH from Andrew Whiteford on Vimeo.

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    This is actually a video I did for one of my rides. All my videos seem blury but I am using Hero2 though. Shouldn't be much of a difference in the viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuruAtma View Post
    Here's a vid I got from Ibis of a Gopro attached to a pole and helmet.
    That's what I want!

    Blurry videos:

    1. Do you still have the underwater case on? That is an extra "bubble" over the lens that will produce a blurry video.

    2. Uploading to YouTube. I'm over them. Their compression is too much and they ding you on music use.

    3. Codecs and compression. Output to the highest quality, always. You will have to experiment what works for you, but I find MP4 is very nice.

    4. Vimeo FTW! YouTube can suck it!

    5. Lighting. Low light days with minimal contrast will always be a little iffy. But the GoPro on 1080HD will handle lower lighting just fine.

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    Dion Thank you will play around. Appreciate all the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morozka1 View Post
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    I just got a MacBook pro so I will try IMovie
    Also for some reason my footage is always blury. I can't figure out how to clean it up. The screen is clean and I think its just setting on the gopro unit itself.
    I have found that going to 60 frames per second gave me better results. On the Hero2 you only get 60fps in 720p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Then, it takes even more time doing to edit the movie. Basically,it's a giant time suck, but a fun one.
    True statement here!

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    Oh, for you PC users, Windows Movie Maker is good. I used that to edit videos 2 and 3 in my post above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Oh, for you PC users, Windows Movie Maker is good. I used that to edit videos 2 and 3 in my post above.
    True, even if it can crash right before saving your edits that you've just spent 2 hours working on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post

    5. Lighting. Low light days with minimal contrast will always be a little iffy. But the GoPro on 1080HD will handle lower lighting just fine.
    This. Because these things have auto iris they are absolutely crap in any kind of contrasty type environs (in and out of tress and shade on a sunny day). Think foggy days under the canopy or golden hour under a fully exposed trail for good results. Dion's other tips are great as well. In addition, since you can't change focal length, think about getting the camera off the bike and incorporating as many different angles as you can (on the ground as tires roll past, high in a tree angled down, etc.) Personally, I actually like the chest mount pov if you're by yourself. To me the helmet pov gives no perspective and sorta smooths everything out to the point that it's boring to watch. Also, agree with Dion about vimeo vs. youtube although vimeo technically has the same rules with regards to music. Oh yeah, almost forgot, please no more hair metal soundtracks.

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    You'll have a lot of fun trying out different mountain angles.

    I tried the handlebar mount out front:

    Skeggs Blue Blossom 9 3 12 - YouTube

    And a custom mount I made attached to the downtube:

    Skeggs/ECDM Resolution Trail - GoPro HD Hero 2 frame mount - YouTube

    I also tried the helmet mount on top of the helmet, but the video was boring (everything looks slow and really smooth), and I crashed because of the distraction.

    I've found the lower to the ground the better. A fork mount would be great. The best videos mix perspective with normal footage (such as mounting the GoPro to a tripod low on the trail), but of course if you're filming yourself, that would take all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuruAtma View Post
    Here's a vid I got from Ibis of a Gopro attached to a pole and helmet. Seems very smooth:

    HERO3 Test- around JH from Andrew Whiteford on Vimeo.

    any pics or links to the pole set up? that looks great.. very smooth.. and your riding ain't too shabby either.. very smooth as well.

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    Don't post videos of hush trails on youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmffitz View Post
    Don't post videos of hush trails on youtube
    What is a hush trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    That's what I want!

    Blurry videos:

    1. Do you still have the underwater case on? That is an extra "bubble" over the lens that will produce a blurry video.

    2. Uploading to YouTube. I'm over them. Their compression is too much and they ding you on music use.

    3. Codecs and compression. Output to the highest quality, always. You will have to experiment what works for you, but I find MP4 is very nice.

    4. Vimeo FTW! YouTube can suck it!

    5. Lighting. Low light days with minimal contrast will always be a little iffy. But the GoPro on 1080HD will handle lower lighting just fine.
    Dion, what resolution would you recommend setting the GoPro Hero 3 to while filming MTN biking videos riding single track? Mostly in shaded woods with the occasional sunny spots. The Hero 3 has 4k cin, 4k, 2.7cin, 2.7, 1440, 1080, 960,720. Also, what about FPS? Should I go with 60,48,30, or 24? I've got an new imac on its way, so hopefully my computer will be able to handle any of these settings. As you can see, I'm new to this and want to be able to edit through imovie as best as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    That's what I want!

    Blurry videos:

    1. Do you still have the underwater case on? That is an extra "bubble" over the lens that will produce a blurry video.

    2. Uploading to YouTube. I'm over them. Their compression is too much and they ding you on music use.

    3. Codecs and compression. Output to the highest quality, always. You will have to experiment what works for you, but I find MP4 is very nice.

    4. Vimeo FTW! YouTube can suck it!

    5. Lighting. Low light days with minimal contrast will always be a little iffy. But the GoPro on 1080HD will handle lower lighting just fine.
    Yeah You Toob sucks now cause theres no way to find out if the song your using is allowed till AFTER youve done all the work on your movie.

    I have A Vimeo acct. but does anyone know what their deal with copyright songs are?
    Seems like there should be a resource where you can check to see if your music selection is ok to use BEFORE you do all the friggin work on your movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    True, even if it can crash right before saving your edits that you've just spent 2 hours working on...
    Before I figured out iMovie, I tried to edit a video on Movie Maker on my work laptop - FAIL!!!! It crashed constantly. On my PC desktop, not so much.

    But, the real issue I had with Movie Maker was codec compatibility. Movie Maker would not recognize the MP4 raw files GoPro puts out, even with the latest codec pack. So, what I was forced to do, was go through a long, awful process of converting to super hi-resolution .AVI files, which were not only worse in quality, but double to triple the size of the MP4's.

    iMovie reads the raw MP4 files without issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr42 View Post
    Dion, what resolution would you recommend setting the GoPro Hero 3 to while filming MTN biking videos riding single track? Mostly in shaded woods with the occasional sunny spots. The Hero 3 has 4k cin, 4k, 2.7cin, 2.7, 1440, 1080, 960,720. Also, what about FPS? Should I go with 60,48,30, or 24? I've got an new imac on its way, so hopefully my computer will be able to handle any of these settings. As you can see, I'm new to this and want to be able to edit through imovie as best as possible.
    I also had the same Q's so I went online to see what the tech nerds were saying. My first few "experiments" didn't come out very well - I also had blurry issues and compression issues that left a lot of artifacts and pixelation. Also, I removed the underwater seal thingy, and that made things much better!

    Since I have a GoPro2HD, I don't have as many settings, so I go with the highest setting possible - and that's 1080 - 30fps. 1080 is widescreen, as well, so you will be able to pick up the peripheral better, and you'll get that "fish eye" look. WVGA - 60 is a lower quality video.

    FPS is "frames per second" and, unless you are going to do only slow motion, fps, by the naked eye and for most enthusiasts purposes, is a non-issue. I actually like the look of digital slow motion with 30fps, from a creative point of view. If you are going to shoot videos with no intent of doing any slow motion, shoot in 30fps.

    On my last video of me riding STCP on my On-One 456, @ 2:33 I do an edit that goes from 300% sped up - to 25% slowed down - to 300% sped up - to normal speed, in a 5 second time lapse. I thought that it turned out kinda cool.

    So, if you want the highest quality, go 1080. That is HD. Unfortunately, you will have larger file sizes. It sucks somebody has to get through all this technical stuff - I just want to make cool artistic videos.

    When I was editing on VHS, there was always issue when going from tape-to-tape when it came to quality. The further you got away from the raw tape (original footage), the worst quality became. It's like finding old pornos where somebody did a recording of a recording of a recording. Try to publish/render with the least amount of compression possible, or the best compression codec available at the highest quality (1080). When you upload, to say, Vimeo, your video will nearly be raw, and your video will be a much higher quality. When you start messing with heavy compression, you have smaller files, but the quality is lost.

    I've had thoughts of shooting things on 8mm film for off the bike. NO digital filter can replicate that! I also want to do a complete edit with only my iPhone - which, with some experimenting, I was able to capture some very dramatic depth of field.

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    Thanks Dion. Would you say that anything over 1080 is overkill for what I'm wanting to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcr42 View Post
    Thanks Dion. Would you say that anything over 1080 is overkill for what I'm wanting to do?
    1080 16:9 is the biggest you can go with GoPro (so far).

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    Ok, what's up with iMovie. I've done everything but get in my knees and beg to get my clips into the editing space. I've tried dragging, importing, exporting, rearranging directories. Nothing. iMovie has to be the least intuitive apple product I've ever seen. Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphic View Post
    Ok, what's up with iMovie. I've done everything but get in my knees and beg to get my clips into the editing space. I've tried dragging, importing, exporting, rearranging directories. Nothing. iMovie has to be the least intuitive apple product I've ever seen. Help!
    I felt that way, but I got it DOWN now! I can't go into it... it's a bit much. There are some very good tutorials online. Just search!

    Helped me a ton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphic View Post
    Ok, what's up with iMovie. I've done everything but get in my knees and beg to get my clips into the editing space. I've tried dragging, importing, exporting, rearranging directories. Nothing. iMovie has to be the least intuitive apple product I've ever seen. Help!
    This helped me ALOT!
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tuto...16624070?mt=12
    Best $5 Ive spent yet .
    Imovie is good but learning curve is slow.
    At least to me.
    But after watching these tutorials I get it now.
    Just gotta practice more.
    Making movies is fun but way too time consuming.
    Like I said earlier, the whole process takes time and when you download to YOU Boob and then they reject your movie because of song copyright infringement, it then becomes a waste of time.
    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    But, the real issue I had with Movie Maker was codec compatibility. Movie Maker would not recognize the MP4 raw files GoPro puts out, even with the latest codec pack. So, what I was forced to do, was go through a long, awful process of converting to super hi-resolution .AVI files, which were not only worse in quality, but double to triple the size of the MP4's.

    iMovie reads the raw MP4 files without issue.
    If you have Windows 7 or 8 and Windows Live Movie Maker 2011 or 2012 (not the old Windows Movie Maker that came with XP or Vista), you can edit the .mp4 files from the GoPro and the .mov files from the Contour without having to do any lossy or time-consuming conversions first.

    I've been using WLMM 2011 on my Windows 7 desktop for almost a year now, and it works flawlessly. I save my work after every edit, so that's usually every few minutes. So far I've never lost all my work due to a crash.

    I record in WVGA 848x480 60fps to save space. I'm not trying to make money with my videos, so I really couldn't care less about making a professional production. I like to relive my rides, and other people like to see them too.

    Even though I record in WVGA mode, it still looks fine on YouTube. In fact, one of my subscribers who uploads in HD wanted to know why my videos looked better than his (his words).

    I refuse to put music over my videos. I prefer to hear the sounds of a real bike ride. I like the commentary from other riders and hikers, which can be funny at times. I also like to hear the bike sounds, nature sounds, and my suffering on climbs. I love climbing!

    I have some bouncing when using the chest mount, but that's because I'm a female cyclist .

    Here's one of my videos shot with the chest mount. Be forewarned, there's plenty of audible breathing on the climbs!

    Flood Road Trail, Mossy Rock Trail MTB ride (Auburn, CA) 11-27-12 - YouTube

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    Put the GoPro w/chest strap on my dog:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuruAtma View Post
    Put the GoPro w/chest strap on my dog:

    Tried mounting my contour on the dog. The mount is too lot to her back so her head fills up the shot. Also there's too much side side movement when she walks. Have to do some more thinking on this.

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    My ride from yesterday.

    Did a loop at Santa Teresa County Park the first day after it re-opened due to muddy conditions. It was still slick out there, and the dirt didn't climb very well... but it was a ride. Sorry for the bumpiness - now you can recall what it was like to ride an old, steel MTB!

    Bike: 1986 Specialized Rockhopper Comp (Rigid) 1X9
    Camera: GoPro2 HD
    Ride: 19 miles; 2,500'

    Not too impressed with the final output. I wasn't able to squeeze in under 500mb with HD (due to length), so I had to compress more than I liked. There are some non-HD artifacts on this vid, so I'm uploading to BoobYou right now with a 3GB file to see if I can get better resolution.

    EDIT: Uploaded to BoobYoob. Watch it in HD!

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