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    I heard Alan Bonds was involved early on, while the 3 amigos lived together in San Anselmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude
    I heard Alan Bonds was involved early on, while the 3 amigos lived together in San Anselmo.
    AB was inducted into the MBHoF recently for that exact reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
    We all know that Mountain Biking was pioneered by Rodney Rom. Just ask him http://www.completesite.com/mbhof/pa...4&memberid=154
    Yawn. I could fill a library with the stories of people who "invented mountain biking" before I ever hit a trail.

    The idea of mountain biking is hardly new and it pre-dates Rodney by plenty. The French guys in the 'fifties and John Finley Scott in 1953 all had the basic idea of modifying bikes for off-road before Rodney learned how to ride a bike. Joe Breeze built the first modern version before Gary and I ever thought about a bike related business.

    If building off-road bikes was all it took to start the sport we know today, mountain biking would have taken over the cycling world 25 years before it did.

    The difference between all the other people who had the same idea earlier and us is that we put brand new bikes designed and built from the ground up on the market and started advertising them, the step every other "inventor" didn't take. All those others had the chance, but failed to SELL the bikes and the sport to other people. When the world decided mountain biking was a good idea, the bikes that were copied down to the last detail were the new bikes we were selling, not hybrid bikes like Rodney's and Scott's that had been a stage on our journey. We didn't stop there. They did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    The difference between all the other people who had the same idea earlier and us is that we put brand new bikes designed and built from the ground up on the market and started advertising them, the step every other "inventor" didn't take. All those others had the chance, but failed to SELL the bikes and the sport to other people. When the world decided mountain biking was a good idea, the bikes that were copied down to the last detail were the new bikes we were selling, not hybrid bikes like Rodney's and Scott's that had been a stage on our journey. We didn't stop there. They did.
    Maybe that was because the others couldn't deal with the funny looks people must have given you when you promoted a bicycle as intended for the dirt, rather than the "safety" of the road. They probably thought you were crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkyJay
    They probably thought you were crazy.
    I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.

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    [QUOTE=Repack Rider]I would have told the story a little differently but Billy did pretty well. Some of the people included were there because they became prominent later, but were not really influential on the earliest developments.

    Pretty well, CK? It'll take that. I don't think any of the cast was so kind to Stacy after Dogtown, though I didn't hear anyone complaining at the cast party (parties). CK knows all this stuff, but here's for the rest that might be interested. There was a reason the film had never been done before, though many had tried. To interview that many characters (that didn't necessarily get along at the time) and pack that much history into a 90 minute narrative is a bit of a trick. There's only so much you can do. It's filmmaking, and it's not as easy as some might think. The idea was to basically end the film with the StumpJumper (82ish), so Charlie C and Jacquie fit in my plan. No one's really interviewed Charlie Cunningham on film before, and I thought that was important. No one had ever interviewed The Morrow Dirt Club, The Larkspur Canyon Gang or a bunch of the others, too. Again, not as easy as one might think to get to these guys. The 'easy' guys, like Gary, wouldn't even give me an interview at first. Gary said there were five other companies that had interviewed him trying to do the same film. He didn't want to waste any more of his time. I had read about some of the other projects, but in the end I'm the only one who finished. The film managed to get good reviews in the NY Times All Movie Guide, USA Today, The Miami Herald, Movie Maker Magazine, Movie Magazine International, STUFF Magazine, etc and pretty every bike magazine on the planet. I don't know any bike porn that's pulled any mainstream press at all, so I'm stoked. It has screened in over 100 film festivals around the world and won a few awards along the way. It's been broadcast on television in over 120 countries. It's on several international airlines in-flight programming. I think it's the only mountain bike film ever to get a PBS broadcast. It's been shown in museums and universities. It's raised more money for bicycle advocacy than I'll ever make back on it. I made some good friends in the course of making the film and it brought people together who had been estranged for years. 17 members of the cast have been inducted into the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame since I made the film. Most of them had been long forgotten by the industry, so it was nice to shine a light on them for a brief moment again. A lot happened along the way, both parents dying, a murder, a broken neck, and some wonderful things, too. It was an amazing experience, and CK was there for a lot of it, too. There are definitely things I would have done differently, too, but it was just me with my own money. I'm happy I made the film (my wife and kids, not so much), but I know I'll never pay it off. There were no agents, managers, p.r. people, sponsors or partners or any other advocates on my side. I was alone in this. I begged for every review, every package that went out, I sent. I wouldn't have had it any other way. I hope others try to make movies on the subject, but it certainly won't be me. Yesterday people had copies for sale on Amazon for $107.00. Insane. I just did a new run of discs and put them up today for less than retail. You can find them on my site if you're interested. Ride on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    ... You can find them on my site if you're interested. Ride on.
    So you made Klunkerz? So you are Billy Savage?

    Man, this thread is full of legends.


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    Thank you Mr Savage- I just bought one 3 seconds ago. Never saw it on PBS or anything so really excited to see it. It is on Amazon right now for $22. Cost me $25 with shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall
    Thank you Mr Savage- I just bought one 3 seconds ago. Never saw it on PBS or anything so really excited to see it. It is on Amazon right now for $22. Cost me $25 with shipping.
    It is legend. Required viewing for sure.

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    The only thing legendary about me is my poor bicycle handling skills. I just made a movie about 'em. Although I did (briefly) lead a Penny Farthing race with a couple of legends. Ride on!


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    Thanks very much. I just made more money today on Klunkerz than I have in two years of foreign T.V. broadcasts. (They haven't paid me). I really appreciate it. I'll send it out today.

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    Hey,
    This thread is about Mr. Fisher, and I'd just like to say that The Man couldn't have been nicer (once I wore him down) about being part of Klunkerz. As CK will attest, we did have a few good times in places like Durango, Boise, and over in Scotland while promoting the film. Gary is a super busy guy, so his time is hard to come by, but when he commits to something, he commits full-bore. He and CK are known as the MountainBike guys, but they both are just as (if not more) fascinating off the bikes. If you get a chance to talk with them don't be afraid to let the conversation veer away from mountain bikes. You'll get your mind blown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erik1245
    Anybody around here ever meet Gary? Ride with him?
    Yup...it was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    The only thing legendary about me is my poor bicycle handling skills.

    I call BS.

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    [QUOTE=scooterendo]
    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    I would have told the story a little differently but Billy did pretty well. Some of the people included were there because they became prominent later, but were not really influential on the earliest developments.

    Pretty well, CK? It'll take that. I don't think any of the cast was so kind to Stacy after Dogtown, though I didn't hear anyone complaining at the cast party (parties). CK knows all this stuff, but here's for the rest that might be interested. There was a reason the film had never been done before, though many had tried. To interview that many characters (that didn't necessarily get along at the time) and pack that much history into a 90 minute narrative is a bit of a trick. There's only so much you can do. It's filmmaking, and it's not as easy as some might think. The idea was to basically end the film with the StumpJumper (82ish), so Charlie C and Jacquie fit in my plan. No one's really interviewed Charlie Cunningham on film before, and I thought that was important. No one had ever interviewed The Morrow Dirt Club, The Larkspur Canyon Gang or a bunch of the others, too. Again, not as easy as one might think to get to these guys. The 'easy' guys, like Gary, wouldn't even give me an interview at first. Gary said there were five other companies that had interviewed him trying to do the same film. He didn't want to waste any more of his time. I had read about some of the other projects, but in the end I'm the only one who finished. The film managed to get good reviews in the NY Times All Movie Guide, USA Today, The Miami Herald, Movie Maker Magazine, Movie Magazine International, STUFF Magazine, etc and pretty every bike magazine on the planet. I don't know any bike porn that's pulled any mainstream press at all, so I'm stoked. It has screened in over 100 film festivals around the world and won a few awards along the way. It's been broadcast on television in over 120 countries. It's on several international airlines in-flight programming. I think it's the only mountain bike film ever to get a PBS broadcast. It's been shown in museums and universities. It's raised more money for bicycle advocacy than I'll ever make back on it. I made some good friends in the course of making the film and it brought people together who had been estranged for years. 17 members of the cast have been inducted into the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame since I made the film. Most of them had been long forgotten by the industry, so it was nice to shine a light on them for a brief moment again. A lot happened along the way, both parents dying, a murder, a broken neck, and some wonderful things, too. It was an amazing experience, and CK was there for a lot of it, too. There are definitely things I would have done differently, too, but it was just me with my own money. I'm happy I made the film (my wife and kids, not so much), but I know I'll never pay it off. There were no agents, managers, p.r. people, sponsors or partners or any other advocates on my side. I was alone in this. I begged for every review, every package that went out, I sent. I wouldn't have had it any other way. I hope others try to make movies on the subject, but it certainly won't be me. Yesterday people had copies for sale on Amazon for $107.00. Insane. I just did a new run of discs and put them up today for less than retail. You can find them on my site if you're interested. Ride on.

    You did an amazing job I thought, Billy. It's not an easy task to make it also enjoyable for a non-mountain biker. It was a job that needed to be done now and you pulled it off beautifully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Yup. Anyone who rides a mountain bike and lives in the bay area should do so.

    There are a whole lot of guys that have been left out of this discussion that deserve note, but I won't nit pick.

    CK has been a fantastic historian and patriarch of records as well.

    Having had the opportunity to ride and hang out with several historical types (on several occasions) is easily an MTB highlight for me.
    We're lucky to live where we do and these guys responsible for our passion are all so down to earth and inviting...shame not to acknowledge or know who they are.
    Cue the pics of the 30th anniversary of Repack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    I just did a new run of discs and put them up today for less than retail. You can find them on my site if you're interested. Ride on.
    Thanks! Just picked one up also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Cue the pics of the 30th anniversary of Repack.
    I was thinking of the ride we did with JP, CK, and JB....you missed out on that one!
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    [QUOTE=Rumpfy]I call BS.

    Trick Photography. It's all Photoshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Cue the pics of the 30th anniversary of Repack.
    How 'bout the 35th? Hope to see some of you in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb
    This http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R906241000, is rad!! Play the mp3..
    My favorite part of that whole thing? I worked my ass off to score that airtime and get you guys booked on that show. Not one of the participants mentions me or the film...not once! If it wasn't for the DJ, nobody would have even known that the film was going to be on KQED. It is a great interview, though. Too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterDave
    Rumor has it that in 2012 there will be a mountain biking display at the SFO Airport Museum (the only accredited airport museum in the US). Don't know much more than that, but I'm sure that the museum would be interested in any historic MTB related items. If any one has any items that they might want to loan the museum, drop me a PM and I'll see if I can put you in contact with someone from the museum.
    It's true. I've been helping to put the show together with the exhibit curator, Ramekon, who rides to the airport everyday. Doesn't own a car. Sweet. Gary, CK, Joe, Wende, Otis and others are already in and making contributions. I think Gary went for a ride with him recently. Anyway, the exhibit will run for six months. There will be art, bikes, ephemera, and clips from Klunkerz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    It's true. I've been helping to put the show together with the exhibit curator, Ramekon, who rides to the airport everyday. Doesn't own a car. Sweet. Gary, CK, Joe, Wende, Otis and others are already in and making contributions. I think Gary went for a ride with him recently. Anyway, the exhibit will run for six months. There will be art, bikes, ephemera, and clips from Klunkerz.

    Didn't Charlie's Cunningham that he lent to the museum get stolen from there years ago? Probably not to anxious to lend them another. Hopefully they'll have some tighter security on it this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Didn't Charlie's Cunningham that he lent to the museum get stolen from there years ago? Probably not to anxious to lend them another. Hopefully they'll have some tighter security on it this time.
    For sure! I mentioned that to Ramekon. I think that was in a different terminal before it was an 'actual' museum. Now it's the real deal. To get accreditation I'm sure they have to have full security measures, guards, climate control, etc. Still, I imagine Mr. C won't be contributing any of his aluminum masterpieces this time around.

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    Klunkerz been very very good to me.

    It was tougher on Billy, and if there is any consolation for the money it continues to cost him, it is that he has made the definitive statement that cannot be topped and will stand for all time. No one else will ever bring that much passion to the project.

    Wander on over to his website, linked in this post, and click on the little button to the right of the poster so you can show the man some love.

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    Awesome how such an uninteresting question turns into an amazing thread. Great to see the OG's are still out there on their bikes and on the forums too.
    I just feel bad now that I saw Klunkerz via Netflix. They probably don't pay more than 0.2 cents for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak77
    Awesome how such an uninteresting question turns into an amazing thread. Great to see the OG's are still out there on their bikes and on the forums too.
    I just feel bad now that I saw Klunkerz via Netflix. They probably don't pay more than 0.2 cents for that.
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    Best thread of the year so far.
    Awesome movie Mr. Savage!!
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    I Really wish I could find my original BMXA magazine from 1981 that has a story about the "new thing" Mtn Bikes; it had MountainBikes, Breezers, and I believe one other, a Klunker I believe may have been a Ritchey. I was a BMX racer and ten speed in the dirt riding angst filled aggro kid growing up in North Valley San Jose. I knew then I had to have one and that summer I purchased with lawnmowing, allowance and begging mom money a shiny 1982 model Stumpjumper sport mtn bike. I also have a Specialized Fat Tire Flyer shirt.

    At the time Specialized bicycles was located in the trade zone on N. 13th St. in San Jose.

    I, being a non driving kid rode my bike all over the San Jose Bay Area, Castle Rock, Big Basin, Santa Teresa, Alum Rock park and any bit of dirt path I could find.

    Marinites were far and away and to boot, not having an "in", I seriously doubt they would have been keen to cotton up to an aggro 14y.o. half breed kid from the south bay anyway. So I just kept pedaling, I took my Stumpy overseas with me when I enlisted in the Air Force in 1984. The only Mtn Bike on base until the Peugeot Alpina Sport showed up.

    I remember how WTB the brain child of Charlie C. pioneered the coveted RollerCam brakes, Grease Guard hubs and GG BB's.

    I remember chronically brinnelled 1" head sets 2-3 new headsets a year in the days before the 1-1/18 change!

    Bontrager Switchblade forks were the best.

    The original IBIS was bling cachet like the 2nd iteration are now - Steel Mojo's, the Silk Ti, the Bow Tie, the URT Szazbo

    Fat Chance Bicycles -

    The first Retrotecs-

    Bontragers too - the OR, the Race, the Race Lite

    Slingshot bikes - which in the early 90's were a hot ticket for the ride quality compared to full rigid bikes.

    Suspension used to be the fattest tire you could stuff between the fork legs.

    Tange Shockblades
    AMP Horst Forks
    Manitou Elastomer forks
    Girvin flex stems
    Allsop Soft ride "suspend the rider" "not the bike" Stems and CF Beams

    Bullmoose handlebars and Stumpjumper tires, Hite Rites, and Mathauser Finned brake pads. I have all these items in crates, aside from the tires and brake pads, those got used up and binned.

    My Stumpy sport,
    My 1990 Trek 950
    My 1993 Cannondale Delta V700
    These listed wheels are in collection.

    Race shirts from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Sizzler Classic, the First Quicksilver Mtn Bike race, the 1990 Dirt for Dimes race on private property adjacent to Calaveras rd. The Trees and Breeze on the Big Creek property. I never raced in the Rumpstomper, Rockhopper or the Repack, though I coveted to race in them.

    Gee someone in the Bike industry have a job for me?!

    There's a bit of my Mtn Bike Salt.

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    It was reported on Dec. 18th that a Netflix executive, Ted Sarandoz, bought a 5.5 million dollar house in Beverly Hills . He's the 11th highest paid person at Netflix. Kinda makes you want to work over there. .02 per spin is probably a little high. I was told Netflix bought something like 10 copies at at reduced rate, probably around $6.00 per copy, I got 60% of that, so around 36.00. Currently Klunkez has been rated 2055 times on Netflix, so each disc has been rented at least 200+ times, so I was actually paid slightly less than .02 per rental. If I got .02 per rental, I would have been paid $41.00 for the discs. That's only based on people who rated the film. Who knows how many people actually saw the film and didn't rate it? Interesting, no? If anyone remembers when they got the disc from Netflix if the disc had artwork printed on it or if it was just a blank disc, I would appreciate it. I didn't sign a deal that allowed them to replicate the disc, which they do with other films. All my inquiries to Netflix have gone unanswered, but they are busy. 20% of peak internet traffic, if the reports are correct. That's pretty amazing. Even if I knew something was up, which I doubt, I couldn't afford to have lawyers get into it, and even it they did, they're a 10+ billion dollar company now. I would just throw away more money on legal fees. This is the stuff they don't teach you in film school. They are getting thousands to folks know the story of Gary, CK and the rest, so that's cool. Ahhh...what a business.
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    My copy had artwork on it I believe, but I'm not sure since I payed more attention to the film than to the disc.
    Forty bucks for 2000 viewers is pretty poor I admit, but if it's any consolation to you I used to illegally download movies pretty often before I had Netflix. I completely stopped doing that. I'm surprised they pay you a fixed amount no matter how many views they get. Or is that just a matter of having better lawyers when you make the deal?

    I loved the movie, and I even learned a thing or two from it. Thanks for creating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak77
    Or is that just a matter of having better lawyers when you make the deal?
    Bingo. Things are different for movie makers in the MAFIAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBikerDan
    I Really wish I could find my original BMXA magazine from 1981 that has a story about the "new thing" Mtn Bikes; it had MountainBikes, Breezers, and I believe one other, a Klunker I believe may have been a Ritchey.
    I have it and scanned it for MTBR member Laffeaux's site called Old Mountain Bikes.

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    Good to know. Netflix seems like an amazing company. I wish I had stock. No doubt I made a bad deal and could have had a better lawyer back then. Legal is now about 25% of the budget. Hadn't planned on that one. But hey, as ever eloquent Repack Rider says, "it was the adventure of a lifetime." I met so many amazing people, and not just those legendary guys. Many of the coolest hang out on this very board. I got to get the story out to a bunch of people who had no idea, had some great rides, and made some good friends along the way. Even played a little guitar with Repack Rider. You can't put a price on that kind of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBikerDan

    I remember how WTB the brain child of Charlie C. and Steve P. pioneered the coveted RollerCam brakes, Grease Guard hubs and GG BB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
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    The roller cam was definitely all Charlie, but the grease guard concept, I'm not sure... coulda been SP, coulda been CC, or could have been both. I'd guess Charlie since he was the mad tinkerer and SP the craftsman.

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    Just bought Klunkerz on Amazon. I started looking for it last week and there were none, then there were two for $50 and now the seller offer for $22. Purchased. Can't wait to see it.
    :wq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    The roller cam was definitely all Charlie, but the grease guard concept, I'm not sure... coulda been SP, coulda been CC, or could have been both. I'd guess Charlie since he was the mad tinkerer and SP the craftsman.
    yes these two made some great stuff.
    I read it as:
    "I remember how WTB, the brain child of Charlie C, pioneered the coveted RollerCam brakes, Grease Guard hubs and GG BB's."

    I was just wanted to add another Legend name to this incredible thread and feel like I know something about the history of MTB
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    Thanks, MM. I appreciate it. There's three guys on Amazon today selling Klunkerz...one for $75, one for $49.99, and me. Craziness. Ya'll ready for Jerry Brown to come to your town?
    We're all hoping it's gonna be a positive change from the commute by jet Governator.
    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    Thanks, MM. I appreciate it. There's three guys on Amazon today selling Klunkerz...one for $75, one for $49.99, and me. Craziness. Ya'll ready for Jerry Brown to come to your town?
    We're all hoping it's gonna be a positive change from the commute by jet Governator.
    ;-)
    Hopefully he's as serious as he says about cutting spending and not increasing taxes without voter approval
    :wq

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBikerDan
    I Really wish I could find my original BMXA magazine from 1981 that has a story about the "new thing" Mtn Bikes; it had MountainBikes, Breezers, and I believe one other, a Klunker I believe may have been a Ritchey. I was a BMX racer and ten speed in the dirt riding angst filled aggro kid growing up in North Valley San Jose. I knew then I had to have one and that summer I purchased with lawnmowing, allowance and begging mom money a shiny 1982 model Stumpjumper sport mtn bike. I also have a Specialized Fat Tire Flyer shirt.

    At the time Specialized bicycles was located in the trade zone on N. 13th St. in San Jose.

    I, being a non driving kid rode my bike all over the San Jose Bay Area, Castle Rock, Big Basin, Santa Teresa, Alum Rock park and any bit of dirt path I could find.

    Marinites were far and away and to boot, not having an "in", I seriously doubt they would have been keen to cotton up to an aggro 14y.o. half breed kid from the south bay anyway. So I just kept pedaling, I took my Stumpy overseas with me when I enlisted in the Air Force in 1984. The only Mtn Bike on base until the Peugeot Alpina Sport showed up.

    I remember how WTB the brain child of Charlie C. pioneered the coveted RollerCam brakes, Grease Guard hubs and GG BB's.

    I remember chronically brinnelled 1" head sets 2-3 new headsets a year in the days before the 1-1/18 change!

    Bontrager Switchblade forks were the best.

    The original IBIS was bling cachet like the 2nd iteration are now - Steel Mojo's, the Silk Ti, the Bow Tie, the URT Szazbo

    Fat Chance Bicycles -

    The first Retrotecs-

    Bontragers too - the OR, the Race, the Race Lite

    Slingshot bikes - which in the early 90's were a hot ticket for the ride quality compared to full rigid bikes.

    Suspension used to be the fattest tire you could stuff between the fork legs.

    Tange Shockblades
    AMP Horst Forks
    Manitou Elastomer forks
    Girvin flex stems
    Allsop Soft ride "suspend the rider" "not the bike" Stems and CF Beams

    Bullmoose handlebars and Stumpjumper tires, Hite Rites, and Mathauser Finned brake pads. I have all these items in crates, aside from the tires and brake pads, those got used up and binned.

    My Stumpy sport,
    My 1990 Trek 950
    My 1993 Cannondale Delta V700
    These listed wheels are in collection.

    Race shirts from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Sizzler Classic, the First Quicksilver Mtn Bike race, the 1990 Dirt for Dimes race on private property adjacent to Calaveras rd. The Trees and Breeze on the Big Creek property. I never raced in the Rumpstomper, Rockhopper or the Repack, though I coveted to race in them.

    Gee someone in the Bike industry have a job for me?!

    There's a bit of my Mtn Bike Salt.

    Dan Abernethy -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Good list.
    A list only Rumpfy could love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    A list only Rumpfy could love.

    Whats wrong with Trek 950's and Flex stems!?
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    The Sinyard bashing seems a little harsh. He brought mountain biking to the masses. That is a good thing for the sport. He made it affordable. Not everybody could get their friends to weld them a new bike every few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterendo
    It was reported on Dec. 18th that a Netflix executive, Ted Sarandoz, bought a 5.5 million dollar house in Beverly Hills . He's the 11th highest paid person at Netflix. Kinda makes you want to work over there. .02 per spin is probably a little high. I was told Netflix bought something like 10 copies at at reduced rate, probably around $6.00 per copy, I got 60% of that, so around 36.00. Currently Klunkez has been rated 2055 times on Netflix, so each disc has been rented at least 200+ times, so I was actually paid slightly less than .02 per rental. If I got .02 per rental, I would have been paid $41.00 for the discs. That's only based on people who rated the film. Who knows how many people actually saw the film and didn't rate it? Interesting, no? If anyone remembers when they got the disc from Netflix if the disc had artwork printed on it or if it was just a blank disc, I would appreciate it. I didn't sign a deal that allowed them to replicate the disc, which they do with other films. All my inquiries to Netflix have gone unanswered, but they are busy. 20% of peak internet traffic, if the reports are correct. That's pretty amazing. Even if I knew something was up, which I doubt, I couldn't afford to have lawyers get into it, and even it they did, they're a 10+ billion dollar company now. I would just throw away more money on legal fees. This is the stuff they don't teach you in film school. They are getting thousands to folks know the story of Gary, CK and the rest, so that's cool. Ahhh...what a business.
    A buddy of mine worked at netflix, and told me some crazy statistic like they don't expect any disc to make it past 5 rentals before it needs to be replaced. I COULD be wrong because the only time I'm ever hanging out with him anymore is when we drink A LOT of beer, but if that number is anywhere close to correct then it sounds like you're getting hosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoGordo
    Best thread of the year so far.
    Awesome movie Mr. Savage!!
    posting in a legendary thread.

    i'm guessing it's gonna be one of the best threads for the rest of the year.

    i haven't seen the movie, but will soon.

    makes me wish i had a vintage mtb. drooled over the cunninghams, ritcheys, ibises, salsas, then as i do now.

    glad i started riding in '85, and did race the rumpstomper and rockhopper back-in-the-day.

    gonna go reminisce and look at old norba news issues, 1st issue of mountainbike action, and the pt. reyes bikes catalogue now.
    will you rep me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moschika
    makes me wish i had a vintage mtb. drooled over the cunninghams, ritcheys, ibises, salsas, then as i do now.

    It can be a slippery slope once you make the cross over to owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    I have it and scanned it for MTBR member Laffeaux's site called Old Mountain Bikes.
    Sweet As!!!!! Wow, that long term data storage of mine still has a bit of it's integrity!

    Thanks for the link!

    I was going to mention the "Champion" truss on the main triangle, but figured only BMXers from that era would know what I was talking about.
    Earn your turns. )'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Good list.




    Oooh - 737 SPDs!!!!!! I got me a pair of those too!
    Earn your turns. )'(

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