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    Hey guys, I want to clarify some confusion. Is Pack Saddle at the top of Downieville or at the Bottom? The reason I ask is because I thought camping was at the bottom therefore I would Shuttle to the top and ride down, then head to camp. If not, then I assume I only need a shuttle back to camp? Also, my son is 11 y/o and I was thinking about bringing him along. He likes to ride but not too experienced, does anyone recommend this ride for an 11 y/o?
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    pack saddle camp is at the top of the run. You will book the shuttle to take you back to your camp after the ride.

    If I was 11 I would love it. Just take it easy, there is no shame in getting off the bike and walking a few feet to get past a harder part.

    It really depends on your sons level, you may want to book that shuttle 2-2.5 hrs out from the start. If you are going at a good clip for your first time down the trail you can do it in 1.5 hrs if you think you will need to do a bit of stop and go then error on the side of waiting at the icecream shop for 30min before your ride back to the top.
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    Thanks Buzkil. Would there be any restrictions in me getting to the campground in a lowered car? First time so I don't know how rough the roads are. Not so low but low enough.

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    Mr. Taco, to be totally specific Packsaddle Campground is 2 miles from the shuttle dropoff, which is Packer Saddle. The campground is .25 mile before you pass Packer Lake, a great place to chill out or swim right near camp.

    The 2 miles of road from the campground to the top are some seriously steep grades. It's 1,200 feet of climbing. But it hasn't stopped anyone from starting the ride that way! In fact, it is so much easier to get a ride back to camp in the afternoon, rather than driving all the way into town in the AM, only to get shuttled back up, then having to drive up at the end of the day. This way, you can hang out in town, swim in the river, have pizza, etc. before you decide to head back to camp. The last shuttles of the day are way less likely to be overbooked, therefore easier to wing it.

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    its pavement all the way into the entrance of the camping area. there may be a slight edge going from the pavement to the gravel campground area. You should be fine.
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    Its not even June yet.... :-(
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    Gonna mis it...

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    Tell me about it. I am SO ready for some Sierra singletrack. Can't wait, brohem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboulder View Post
    This will be my first DV Gathering mis in many years. Have fun!
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    This Thread Needs Some Stoke

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    Sardine Lake? Love it! Thanks Fred!
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    Tamarack Connector Trail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog View Post
    Not mine but one of my favorites....
    I want to ride that one!
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    going later, Sunday 6am from Berkely

    Packsaddle Sun, Mon, Tue, reserved Site 5 sun/mon night. Keep this thing rollin'. Please don't wear out the trails before we get there!

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    Fred da trog, what trail is that? I am into pedaling along with shuttle runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    Fred da trog, what trail is that? I am into pedaling along with shuttle runs.
    What Downieville Outfitter said, Tamarack Connector Trail. It's not my neck of the woods, it was 4 years ago and I was following the group. We road from Packersaddle Camp cross country to Upper Sardine Lake, down to the road and back to camp. No shuttle. The drop into Sardine was as breathtakingly beautiful as anywhere on earth. It's easy to get a feel of distance on Google Earth or map.

    I'm sure there will be some guides in camp or check with D-ville Outfitters for directions
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    Not on Facebook, to 98.5% in with my 13yr old arriving 6/8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TACORICAN View Post
    Hey guys, I want to clarify some confusion. Is Pack Saddle at the top of Downieville or at the Bottom? The reason I ask is because I thought camping was at the bottom therefore I would Shuttle to the top and ride down, then head to camp. If not, then I assume I only need a shuttle back to camp? Also, my son is 11 y/o and I was thinking about bringing him along. He likes to ride but not too experienced, does anyone recommend this ride for an 11 y/o?
    Please help!
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    11 year old? Probably not. There are exceptions of course but in general, no. There is a litmus test. Take him to Demo Forest and do the Saw Pit Loop and Braille. If he is having fun and under control, then it's all systems go. The climbing is not that as hard in Downieville but the descent is about the same level as Demo, but very long. There are cliffs and sharp rocks too so control at all times is key.

    I have an 11 year old and it's Demo Forest first before the big trips.

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    TACORICAN - Yeah, any run from Packer Saddle to town would be extreme for a young person. I think there might be other 11 year-old-suitable trails around, though- ask at Yuba or Downieville Outfitters. I have seen them giving advice to people on easier trails before.
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    Tacorian, I feel the same way with respect to the trails into town from Packer Saddle. I have an 11 year old son who has been slowly gaining more confidence and skill over the last few years. Right now he is just starting to be OK with climbs. He loves to go downhill, but only on moderate grades. I think that the big rocks and the exposure along the trails down into Downieville might really scare him! There is a lot of water and a couple of big stream crossings, too. Does he like hiking? The scenery is incredible right around the campground. I hope that this doesn't keep you from coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailseeker View Post
    Tacorian, I feel the same way with respect to the trails into town from Packer Saddle. I have an 11 year old son who has been slowly gaining more confidence and skill over the last few years. Right now he is just starting to be OK with climbs. He loves to go downhill, but only on moderate grades. I think that the big rocks and the exposure along the trails down into Downieville might really scare him! There is a lot of water and a couple of big stream crossings, too. Does he like hiking? The scenery is incredible right around the campground. I hope that this doesn't keep you from coming.

    Taco, maybe ignore my advice, as I have no kids and I am going off my own experiences of what I liked to do at that age. I lived in the Rocky Mountains and grew up riding motorbikes from an early age. I am also a trial by fire type of person. You can ask one of my exs about me dragging her up Snake Dike on one of her first outside rock climbing experiences.
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    May be up there at the same time. I just found this thread while doing a little research on the area because it's looking like i'll be up there with my father-in-law the same weekend as the event.

    We are thinking of camping too. I just checked the website and it says no available sites for that weekend. Am i understanding correctly that we'd be welcome to come and squeeze in? I'll bring a couple cases of Deschutes beer from here in Bend, OR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyS600 View Post
    May be up there at the same time. I just found this thread while doing a little research on the area because it's looking like i'll be up there with my father-in-law the same weekend as the event.

    We are thinking of camping too. I just checked the website and it says no available sites for that weekend. Am i understanding correctly that we'd be welcome to come and squeeze in? I'll bring a couple cases of Deschutes beer from here in Bend, OR.
    Yes, we usually squeeze in about 5 tents per campsite.

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    you can camp in my site but only if you bring growlers of boneyard ipa instead of deschutes.

    but really you should be able to squeeze in anywhere. and we love boneyard

    Quote Originally Posted by TroyS600 View Post
    May be up there at the same time. I just found this thread while doing a little research on the area because it's looking like i'll be up there with my father-in-law the same weekend as the event.

    We are thinking of camping too. I just checked the website and it says no available sites for that weekend. Am i understanding correctly that we'd be welcome to come and squeeze in? I'll bring a couple cases of Deschutes beer from here in Bend, OR.

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    Snows melting fast! Its getting good out here! Shuttles start this weekend. Still some snow up top but not too bad. Downieville bike shop and shuttle to the Downieville Downhill - YUBA Expeditions

    Cheers!

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    Boneyard growlers is not a bad idea. 10 Barrel's IPA is delicious too. Deshutes is my go-to 'cause I have hook-ups that keep the price down quite nicely.
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    I just got the A-ok from boss lady. All I know is I would like to do a Big Boulder to 3rd run. Mills Peak might be fun too.

    Also who wants to get to let me crash there site?
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    I wanted to join you guys this year. Sounds like an awesome time. Heading up tomorrow to Forest City to build 7 miles of new trail. If any of you are up early come by for a brew and spin. Logging is pretty much completed and PVD and Truckee are not impacted.

    We will be starting at W end of Truckee Ditch Trail Fri am for 11 days. Our house in FC is straight above top of main street. White with Green Trim with a Salmon w Wht trim house adjacent.

    If I dont see yall... ride on!

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    NorCal crew,

    I tried to see if I could make it out this year, but I can't. It's simply too cost prohibitive.

    With that said, my friend Sandy from San Antonio is moving to Reno next week. She's a good person, would fit in great with y'all and is looking to meet some new friends. I assured her that The Gathering would be the best place to do so. As a flatlander, she's a bit concerned about being able to hang, but I reassured her that even with her current fitness level, she'd be able to at least do the Packer / 3rd / 1st run with no sweat.

    She can post up here on her own and coordinate with you, but I wanted to give an introduction of sorts and say to look out for her and make her feel at home. She's got a travel trailer, and may be looking for a spot to camp at your event - but I'm not sure what the situation is with camping spots, etc.

    Perhaps once she gets there, someone can take her under the wing and make sure she gets down the hill OK and is welcomed as you did me?

    I wish you all well and miss you terribly.

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    Booked for 3 shuttles on this Sunday and Monday and camping with 2 other buddies...so stoked!!!!

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    Campsite # 1 & 2 here. Have her come by. We have a few girls that love to ride together. I'm sure she will fit in fine!

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    NorCal crew,

    I tried to see if I could make it out this year, but I can't. It's simply too cost prohibitive.

    With that said, my friend Sandy from San Antonio is moving to Reno next week. She's a good person, would fit in great with y'all and is looking to meet some new friends. I assured her that The Gathering would be the best place to do so. As a flatlander, she's a bit concerned about being able to hang, but I reassured her that even with her current fitness level, she'd be able to at least do the Packer / 3rd / 1st run with no sweat.

    She can post up here on her own and coordinate with you, but I wanted to give an introduction of sorts and say to look out for her and make her feel at home. She's got a travel trailer, and may be looking for a spot to camp at your event - but I'm not sure what the situation is with camping spots, etc.

    Perhaps once she gets there, someone can take her under the wing and make sure she gets down the hill OK and is welcomed as you did me?

    I wish you all well and miss you terribly.

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    NorCal crew,

    I tried to see if I could make it out this year, but I can't. It's simply too cost prohibitive.

    With that said, my friend Sandy from San Antonio is moving to Reno next week. She's a good person, would fit in great with y'all and is looking to meet some new friends. I assured her that The Gathering would be the best place to do so. As a flatlander, she's a bit concerned about being able to hang, but I reassured her that even with her current fitness level, she'd be able to at least do the Packer / 3rd / 1st run with no sweat.

    She can post up here on her own and coordinate with you, but I wanted to give an introduction of sorts and say to look out for her and make her feel at home. She's got a travel trailer, and may be looking for a spot to camp at your event - but I'm not sure what the situation is with camping spots, etc.

    Perhaps once she gets there, someone can take her under the wing and make sure she gets down the hill OK and is welcomed as you did me?

    I wish you all well and miss you terribly.

    Best,

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    Campsite # 1 & 2 here. Have her come by. We have a few girls that love to ride together. I'm sure she will fit in fine!

    Great! Thanks! I am looking forward to it

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    Sandy, my wife will also be there and happy to ride with you. She's been off the bike for a while (two kids does that) but is still in good shape and can shred.

    J is a good friend of ours and you are more than welcome to just show up and make yourself at home. There's a strong family vibe at this event, we all look out for each other. Glad you can experience it!

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    For those planning a Lakes Basin adventure I plan to make sure Mills Peak is fully logged out and ready to rock. Right now all is clear except the upper 2 miles with drifts and numerous blowdown. I just sharpened my saw and it should be in good shape when you get here.

    Mills rides great downhill, but the true adventurer will ride up it. We spent a lot of time developing a climbable Lakes Basin route, and this is it. The attached Garmin track is the epitome of fine backcountry riding and rides as a loop from Graeagle. After a fun climb up Mills, it heads west through the Lakes Basin for the tough climb up Elwell and then a world class descent. There are some options on the descent for those interested.

    Our pace in this track was social and the fast and furious will kill this time. But come prepared, this is the real deal! One caution!!! The snowdrift on the north side of the Elwell summit will probably be pretty big, and may extend down the trail a ways off the summit. Best navigated with care, and with someone who has done it before. The other option is to skip Elwell and descend from Round Lake Trail, across the Long Lake Connector and on down past the Graeagle Lodge. VERY fun.

    Don't forget to buy the new high quality map Willie made for the SBTS and all trail fans. This is THE map for Downieville and Lakes Basin!! You can pick one up at Yuba Expeditions.

    Have fun,

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    We completely raked and cleared Upper Butcher Ranch trail
    this week.A handful of drifts remain, but the trail is all time
    awesome for the weekend.We cleared all the way to Pauley
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    Ronski, that Graeagle Mills Peak loop looks awesome! Thanks for your work getting it prepped.

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    shuttles booked and looking forward to some of the cooler weather and thunderstorms to tack up the lower trails. thanks for all the trail work guys, I'll be donating to SBTS shortly to put my money where my mouth is.
    here we go again

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    Ronski, thanks so much for sharing this and all the hard trailwork! We are genuinely grateful for the trails that are there. Your ride looks epically awesome. I may be doing that over the weekend. I rode the Long Lake Connector last year. You're right, it's a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    I just got the A-ok from boss lady. All I know is I would like to do a Big Boulder to 3rd run. Mills Peak might be fun too.

    Also who wants to get to let me crash there site?
    Site 11's got some room. I'm rolling in late afternoon to early evening on Friday. Come on down!
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    Ronski,

    thank you for the hard work! Wooohooo! Are you planning on being at the event? Would you be interested in leading a few of us on a true backcountry adventure? We rode Lakes Basin with Big Boulder last year. Looking forward to something similiar this year.
    Again thanks for the hard work-it truly is appreciated!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bailout View Post
    Site 11's got some room. I'm rolling in late afternoon to early evening on Friday. Come on down!
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    OK, pretty sure my father-in-law and I are in. Somebody save us some space. Maybe one other friend if he can clear with the wife/baby (40% chance)

    I'll bring some beer to share, but i can't bring tons, i'm broke! I'm happy to bring anything down from any of the Bend breweries if y'all can pay for it. Deschutes, Bend Brewing Co, Cascade Lakes, 10 Barrel, Good Life, Boneyard, McMenamins, Silver Moon, etc (it's ridiculous....ly awesome!).

    Do we need to book shuttles? I've never ridden in the area before, getting excited! In fact, i haven't ridden in very many different areas, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J View Post
    NorCal crew,

    I tried to see if I could make it out this year, but I can't. It's simply too cost prohibitive.

    With that said, my friend Sandy from San Antonio is moving to Reno next week. She's a good person, would fit in great with y'all and is looking to meet some new friends. I assured her that The Gathering would be the best place to do so. As a flatlander, she's a bit concerned about being able to hang, but I reassured her that even with her current fitness level, she'd be able to at least do the Packer / 3rd / 1st run with no sweat.

    She can post up here on her own and coordinate with you, but I wanted to give an introduction of sorts and say to look out for her and make her feel at home. She's got a travel trailer, and may be looking for a spot to camp at your event - but I'm not sure what the situation is with camping spots, etc.

    Perhaps once she gets there, someone can take her under the wing and make sure she gets down the hill OK and is welcomed as you did me?

    I wish you all well and miss you terribly.

    Best,

    J
    J,

    You and your banjo will be sorely missed. Hope to see you sometime in the near future.

    For you friend Sandy, I will be bringing the whole family and my wife will be looking for some easy riding partners. We'll try to arrange an easy ride / loop that will be family friendly with some good challenges for newer riders.

    We'll be bringing some rootbeers as we aren't much for drinking beer.

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    I should be able to make it this year.
    More than happy to help lead an adventure ride if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    I should be able to make it this year.
    More than happy to help lead an adventure ride if need be.
    An adventure ride with my group means, "Let's see where this goes."
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    I'll more than likely have some room in site #3. Heading up on the 7th and leaving on the 9th.

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    Is there a plan for a Mills Peak ride? I'm probably not going to be able to come up for the weekend for budget reasons, but want to at least come up for a day to do the Mills Peak ride with the group.
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