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    Demo Flow Scrapbook...and diary

    Unofficial thread for images pertaining to the build-out of the new "Flow Trail" in Soquel Demonstration State Forest.

    For something more official go here Trail Talk | Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz (MBoSC)

    This was the second day Drew and crew were able to start rough cutting the trail with the Morrison Trailblazer; I was out to deliver a tool storage box and wound up getting greasy doing some minor repairs to the machine. Because of said greasiness I didn't feel like contaminating my camera so I instead used my iPhone to record some of the action. (apologies in advance)

    So here starts the scrapbook:


    Results of the first day's operation; for scale that's a 4' wide bench and a 4' vert. cut bank---at 100% the steepest side-slope along the whole route. Drew wanted to get it out of the way early. (Photo courtesy Drew Perkins)


    Drew (drewp) fires up the Morrison as Patty C (knobbyknees) gets a photo from a different direction.


    Trail cutting resumes. Looking like the engine may need an overhaul that's actually just water vapor from the cold start-up. I like the drama it added!


    The steep portion in the first photo the trail is cutting across an ancient(?) landslide scarp; here the trail is on the gentle slope formed where the slide came to stop.


    In this iPhone video Drew cuts the trail past a rare cluster of virgin-growth redwoods; the tape on trees is a reminder from CDF that they're not to be harmed in any way.


    As Drew moves beyond the old trees the tilt caused to one tree by the landside is evident (could be used to date the landslide).


    Looking back up the trail past one of the more up-right trees the natural "flow" of the terrain can be seen.

    Got photos??? Post 'em!
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    Cool!!! I'll be there Friday to get plenty dirty...some rain tonight oughta be just what the doctor ordered. I'll take some snaps...
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    here's some more from section 5:



    how many rings does it take to get to the center of the demo flow trail? 180-ish.



    Ford pitches duff onto the steep side slope.



    Drew reflects after enjoying a potlatch lunch break.



    discussing next steps



    Glenn photographs the flow below



    Squashyo in his large green condom suit



    Drew fights the bogdan tree.



    tree wins... for now.



    welder needed. and maybe some dynamite...

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    Please stop.
    I'm getting a chubby. :roll eyes:
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    Scrapbook addition

    Pics from 2.7 trail work day:
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    and some more

    some more pics of 2.7 work day:
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    Still a tad bit wet...

    It doesn't show in the forum list but I changed the title of my OP to "Demo Flow Scrapbook...and diary"; pictures being "worth a thousand words" and all but there are times when I just don't take many photos.

    Like today; so here's a diary entry with one pix:

    I made a trip out to Demo today to repair the broken blade tilt cylinder bracket on the Morrison trail machine; I was hauling an engine-driven welder in the bed of my 4x4 F-250 PU (fair tires but no winch). My son Jonathan was riding shotgun. The original plan was that Drew and crew were to remove the broken parts from the Morrison and haul them down Flow and then down Tractor to the graveled Hihn's Mill Rd as access on Tractor might be limited due to slippery conditions.

    But yesterday Drew learned that the woodcutters were driving up Tractor (access road) so he reckoned that we might be able to do the same. (And save much effort hauling the broken tractor parts)

    Sounds like a plan; Drew and Matt would have a couple hour head start to dis-assemble and get the stuff down Flow Trail to the side of the road. I half expected to see them at the bottom of Tractor but only Matt's truck was there with no sign of the lads. Drew's vehicle was not there either so I assumed he must have driven on up the hill (Bad assumption; I saw tire tracks but they were from the woodcutters and not Drew)

    The next spot I expected to see them was at the "Landing" at the bottom of "Segment 5"; nobody home so I kept going. (Hindsight: should have checked with Drew via cell at that point!)

    From that point on the road pitches up so I was definitely using the 4WD; I could see where the traffic before me was beginning to lose traction in spots and doing a bit of slip-and-slide. I also began to realize that if I stopped I would not be able to get going again and backing up would be pretty sketchy too. I figured with the momentum I had I could make to the next turn-around (and also where Drew sometimes parks) and head back down the hill if he wasn't there.

    Well, we got about 4 feet from the turn around (no Drew) and "that's all she wrote"!

    Stuck. Stuck in the mud...

    Just then Drew calls via cell and says "I heard you go past; where are you now?"

    Me says: "I'm where you parked the last time and BTW I'm stuck at the moment; where are you?"

    Drew: "We're at the machine and we just got the blade off."

    Me: "Where are you planning to take the blade?"

    Drew: "Down to the landing, we're going to try to use a wheelbarrow, but do you need help getting un-stuck like with a come-along?"

    Me: "No, not yet; we've got planks and tools with us, if I can't get turned around I'll give you a call back."

    Well; it took my son and I about 1/2 an hour to move 20 feet and get the truck pointed in the right direction. (The planks were nearly useless; downed branches left by the woodcutters were much more effective)

    Long story shortened; got to the Landing and effected the repair. Matt, Jonathan and myself hauled the parts back up the un-cut Flow to the Morrison (yes it was a 3-man job; 2 on ropes pulling the wheelbarrow and 1 pushing); here's Matt driving home the cylinder pin:


    There was other drama unfolding on the Flow Trail project; let's just say I wasn't the only one who got stuck. I'll leave that tale for someone else...
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    ouch. i rode by in the afternoon and didn't see anyone. did see signs of some slipping going up tractor. and plenty of packing mud.

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    if a picture is worth a thousand words, a thousand pictures is worth?

    segment 5 was firm enough for a test ride (and a strava kom, hah!)




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    That is KOM? I gotta get me out there... (Thanks for the vid, conditions looked great...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumblingcrustacean View Post
    That is KOM? I gotta get me out there... (Thanks for the vid, conditions looked great...)
    Great vid -- trail is looking good.

    Do you have an ETA for the Grand Opening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spec306 View Post
    Great vid -- trail is looking good.

    Do you have an ETA for the Grand Opening?
    The official word from the MBOSC webpage Flow Trail at Demo | Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz (MBoSC) says:
    "VOLUNTEER | Three uniquely qualified employees have been hired by MBoSC for this extensive endeavor. Work days and volunteers will be coordinated by Project Manager Patty Ciesla, while dirt moving operations will be managed by MBoSC Trails Officer Drew Perkins with Matt De Young’s assistance. In addition to this paid staff, over 40 crew leaders—trained by MBoSC—will lead volunteers in the field. Large scale volunteer work parties led by this inspired expertise will accelerate the project. This will allow for riders to enjoy the trail by the end of 2014. Contact us to add your name to the volunteer roster. (Learn more about how the flow trail’s design and construction.)"

    But at the rate the crew is ripping along; they roughed-in one of 6 segments in one week so at that rate it'll be finished before summer! But "roughed-in" and ride-able doesn't mean finished; there is much work to be done perfecting berms, rollers and etc. The project schedule hugely depends on volunteer support; the more hands that show up on TWDs the sooner the "Grand Opening" will happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spec306 View Post
    Do you have an ETA for the Grand Opening?
    what pliebenberg said

    100% dependent on volunteers. it's early yet. the more people that show up and are willing to put some time and love in, the quicker the trail will be completed. and the more "you" it will be if you spend even a few hours shaping that berm, or making sure the drainage drains. so i would highly recommend coming out for a visit before it's complete.

    that being said, Drew-n-Crew are making speedy progress! the almost half mile of segment 5 is very much looking like a trail. shoot them an email if you think you can make it out: trails@mbosc.org

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    We need a weekend work day already! Let's do this. Lots of people ready to dig that can't make it on weekdays.

    Or how about a weekday night building session?

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    Mark your calendars...

    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbiker View Post
    We need a weekend work day already! Let's do this. Lots of people ready to dig that can't make it on weekdays.

    Or how about a weekday night building session?
    ...and watch MBOSC's pages for an official announcement.

    I'm not an "official" representative but I do know this:

    "Saturday 2/22: Our first official volunteer day! Limit 50 volunteers. Meet at the top of Hihn's Mill at 9:00 return by 3:00 "

    There also happens to be a more limited invitational day (shakedown) prior but you'll need to PM a Crew Leader for an invite.

    Drew and Patty need to ramp this thing up slow as there are parking and other logistical considerations being worked out. (like to make sure there's enough tools to go around!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverbiker View Post
    We need a weekend work day already! Let's do this. Lots of people ready to dig that can't make it on weekdays.

    Or how about a weekday night building session?
    Dude, you are forgiven...after all, someone needs to build the 'other' non-Demo trails. (we could definitely use your expertise out there though...)
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    Our muscles


    Our brains and muscles


    No obstacle is to big


    Lots of this


    And lots of this


    Fired up crew


    Berms made easy with machines


    Open that corridor



    Nice to work in some sunshine for a change


    Not PO...thank god


    Digging the Redwoods


    Drew building up the lip


    A little nature art


    Glenn clearing and Drew moving dirt old school style


    No trees were hurt


    Drew on the dirt mover


    Crew drooling over new line (Mitch, Glenn, Matt, Drew)


    More of that


    Chain Saw


    Chain saw and friend axe


    Spider web


    Mitch and Glenn prepare the berm


    nother spiderweb


    Tractor Footprint


    nother tractor footprint


    Drew surveying bermalicious


    Packed berm


    Packed berm 2


    Travis from Tread and Drew


    Bogden packing Bermalicious


    Bogden Berm packing 2


    Mitch hauling tools


    Mitch and Drew wrapping it up
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    moved some dirt and shaped a real nice berm today

    or maybe squashyo gestured at this tree and a berm magically appeared?







    ok.. it was more like this




    Drew and Matt discuss the projectlist over lunch




    load up some dirt




    dump some dirt




    dump some more dirt




    and some more dirt




    brace up the outside of the berm






    tamp it in




    tampin' ain't easy




    progress






    fine tuning








    looking good!








    mmm.




    yo check out the flow!



    rest of the photos: (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...38652781602113)

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    lots done today! here's some trail p1rn.

    https://plus.google.com/photos/10042...00782464349889

    a few selects below. see the link above for the full stokage.











    what this is missing is scale. this tree is HUGE!







    only 24 hours old and bermzilla is already a fat baby



    KOM bike (pfft. currently #2)



    what does this remind you of?



    wwwwrrrrzzzzwwwrrrrzzzz



    the view from above the wall ride



    tools of the trade



    tools of the trade

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    #2? Wha? Glenn musta pinned it!
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    he stayed late last night and planted that booby trap tree. at least that's what i heard..

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    Well, I brought the camera for today but ended up working, then bonked...at least I got a few pics. Today crew (folks who completed the Trail Leader Classes - 15 or 17 in all?) babied the trail, buffing out spots, cleaning up lines, and general digging. Our crew built a big ole berm and moved a crap load of dirt in the process. Looks pretty and really helps for keeping speed through a turn into a wall ride (ahhhh, yeah). Anyhow, I am BEAT! Trail is gonna rock:

    The crew!


    The Tools (and crew)


    Lower Tractor (crew fuzzy crew)


    The walk


    The walk 2


    A bunch of sap


    Up to the trail
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    Looks like a very productive day out there again today - well done to all involved!


    Hope to be back out there again soon
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    These photos are amazing! Thank you all for working in the demo this past week. I'm blown away at the level of progress.

    I'm itching to get out there to build!

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    Segment 5, Turn Number ???

    This berm has received so much attention it should probably be given a name; I didn't realize it until I saw the other photos in this thread that this was the 3rd day it was being worked on. Riders will pass through it ("it's" really more of a rolling grade dip in an "S" shape than just a turn) in less than a second yet there's probably 40~50 hours of volunteer labor invested (lovingly) on it:

    This was the group I was attached to; Clockwise from right; "crew-leader-for-the-day" Alan, "regular" crew leaders Jill, Robert and Pierre; project leaders Drew and Matt. Matt seems to be gesturing "who?, me???"



    Andrea delivers one of many wheelbarrow loads of soil used to perfect the berm. Barely discernible in the right foreground are the flags and ribbon describing the yet to be cut "dip".



    Layers are compacted before adding more dirt.



    Matt shows Alan where he would like the next load dumped.



    The "dip" preceding the berm has been cut (my contribution) and gets leveled by the vibratory plate compactor.



    Ditto


    Ditto


    From a stroll coming back uphill to the "corner":












    And lastly; as we packed it up for the day some prospective "customers" stopped by for a look:
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    Re: Demo Flow Scrapbook

    Hi friends of the Flow, we have good digging dirt and Drew and some crew leaders will be out on the flow trail tomorrow starting at 9:00.

    If you can help please RSVP to Drew: trails@mbosc.org

    This project date isnt listed on our volunteer form

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FKd...3FQqU/viewform

    but you can also sign up there by chosing "notify me of future projects" and putting "I can help Monday 2/17" in the last box.

    The registration form has all the details about the trailwork, so check it out!
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    Y'all are McCloud-carrying dirt heroes!

    We'll be out there Saturday.
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    trail is really coming along. nice to see it unfold.. and fun to ride! build. test. tweak. stoke. repeat.

    https://plus.google.com/photos/10042...71238927019105


    some highlights from today.. starting from around mid trail on segment 5



    Matt riding skid steer like a boss. cutting back more material for this berm which delivers you to...



    this sweet wall ride (which still needs some tweaking)



    here's a view from above



    further up the trail we have..



    the "no you didn't" area. currently tarp'd to try to keep in some moisture



    even further up we've got this gateway tree has been cut back to improve sightline



    this is a pretty big tree with heaps of character



    just above the tree we have this big ole berm. feels like only yesterday we were locking in the bracing on the outside of this turn and it already looks like it's been there for ages


    heading in the other direction, bottom half of segment 5







    brought to you by the letter "F"








    the bogdan tree claims another victim





    caught Kmax trimming some backslope. oh yeah



    Bell sent a big crew of smiley volunteers.









    and a gov't employee



    thanks y'all!









    come on out and pack some dirt




    woof, woof wooof woof.


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    B- Pic third from the last is rad!

    Great job everybody! Can't wait to get back out there!
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    Awesome photos modbog! It was great to meet you yesterday. Here is another POV of segment 5 with beginning and ending with modbog


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    thanks, guys! i think a lot of nice works of light and dirt will come out of this project

    in the meanwhile, it's tool time. let's get to know the tools we're using:



    there are a lot of them!




    above are a pile of leaf rakes (aka fan rakes.) useful for moving light material like well, leaves. duff is no match for this tool. great for clearing light organic debris before you start digging with the other tools. have to "backslope" a section of trail? this will probably come out so you can keep your dirt and organics separate (just ask Matt why that's important Trail Talk #2: Keep ?em separated | Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz (MBoSC))




    metal rakes. not as good for gathering leaves.. duff tens to get stuck in the tines and turns it into a dirt club. great for moving and grading loose dirt as well as stripping slightly heavier organics from the top soil.




    McLeods. named after their creator Malcolm McLeod, a US Forest Service ranger at the Sierra National Forest. this dualsided tool combines a rake and hoe and is useful in a variety of situations. it can cut small roots, scrape dirt, rake duff... all sorts of stuff. probably why it's used for so many trail restoration and fire suppression tasks. make sure to store it safely when not in use, you definitely don't want to step on the business end of this tool.




    the cutter mattock. not to be confused with the pick mattock below. the cutter is a combination of axe and adze heads. it's a big heavy tool with a large eye to accommodate the big heavy shaft. it's both a digging tool (adze) and cutting tool (axe) use the adze end to dig channels and get through hard dirt. uncover a root that needs to go? flip it over and use the axe end to chop it down to size.




    pick mattock. like the cutter mattock, it has an adze head. but unlike the cutter mattock it has a pick on the other end instead of an axe. the pick is useful for getting through really tough stuff. rocky trail need digging? here's your tool. it can kick back material and rock chips so don't forget the eye protection.




    the Pulaski, as it's commonly known. named after Ed Pulaski, this tool is also heavily used in firefighting. similar to the cutter mattock in that it has an axe and adze end. but unlike the cutter mattock, this is not a heavy digging tool. the handle is much lighter and can break easier. as with any axe, check the handle for damage frequently... breaking the handle while in use can be no bueno (think heavy flying metal sharpness.) this one is more axe then adze, so don't grab this one for digging.




    the rogue hoe. don't snicker. this tool is made from recycled agricultural disc blades. those are the large discs farmers drag their fields with after plowing and tilling and as such are made from high grade tempered steel. i.e. heavy duty and sharp. these hoes are not like your average garden hoe. the head is much thicker, much sharper, and curved (made from discs remember..) great for scraping and finish work of tough, but not too rocky, mineral soil. when renaturalizing a section this tool is useful for blending the blackslope so it doesn't look a machined cliff side. store carefully.




    flat shovel. used to dig, lift and move material. but with a flat head you're not going to do heavy digging with this tool. however, if you've got a pile of loose dirt and need to move it by hand, here you go.




    round point shovel. like the flat head shovel but the blade has a rounded cutting edge and larger shoulders (the folded over bit where you put your foot on the shovel.) you can dig with this one, but remember not to use it like a lever. don't plunge it deep into packed dirt and pull back on the handle as you'll likely break it at some point. need to do heavy digging or break through tougher material? look at a mattock.




    tamper. once graded, the trail will be smooth but soft so it will need some compaction. this hand tool is good alone or as a first pass before bringing in the vibrating plate compactor in. it's heavy so lift it up and let gravity do most of the work. trying to muscle this tool will hurt your hands.. switch up between workers frequently so no one gets too worn out. wet dirt? put plastic down before tamping and the dirt won't stick to the tool




    bikes. useful for everything from testing to transportation. a really versatile tool used in climbing, descending, hucking drops, airing out gaps, tuning berms.. all sorts of awesomeness. and chicks dig them. you know my steez!

    want to see these tools in use? check out some more photos from Saturday https://plus.google.com/photos/10042...03783823712401

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    One look at the photos from a work day I wasn't in attendance for and I'm feeling eager to get back out there and dig - trail building is almost as addictive as riding!
    Not really doing much Ridin' or Diggin'

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    i'm looking forward to getting back to the hip jump. it's gonna need some work





    the way the line is right now it wants to lob you into the sticks if you come in straight.. did that a couple times


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    You forgot one more tool (besides me)...coming THIS WEEK! Thank you Zeus.
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    This is an awesome and informative post!

    In a future post consider discussing some of the mech that we use: plate tampers, power wheelbarrow, mini excavator, skid steer, etc... The power equipment has increased our productivity to build wicked new trail. Power equipment is used mostly during the week - except for the plate tamper and power wheelbarrow. I bought myself a set of those earplugs on a plastic loop that I can wear around my neck and I recommend that everyone who does a lot of weekday work on this trail to do the same.

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    Goin' Black and white (mostly) on you previewers today. GREAT day digging. Cleaned up many lines and bumps...drains, berms, what nots. It was PERFECT building weather and of course we sampled the goods. Trail is way flowier now and down right fun. Today we had Glenn, Bogdon, Matt, Mark Davidson, Drew, me...and a showing from Patty. Pics:

    NO BIKES ALLOWED...unless you are digging of course


    Trail up top


    What a tire sees


    Keeping the dirt moist


    Top of jump lip...yeah, it's ready for action now


    Lots of stumps


    Helps to have the right equipment


    and good light


    and a buddy


    working the jump


    checking angles


    saw this dude checking out the new trail


    Drew working the berm


    some color


    nice day in the forest


    jump x4 Drew





    da berm


    tractor getting a rest


    tractor part 2


    berm and trail in background


    Glenn...one badass mofo


    Matt...always be digging..check out jump in background


    Matt with jump in background


    I think this is Drew?


    Rad photo of Matt throwin' style


    Sasquatch sighting


    Thanks everyone...great day in the forest and can't wait to be back out there again soon...bring on the rain!!!
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    It was a great day out there! I'm really impressed about how much a small but focused crew can get accomplished with all that machinery.

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    Demo Flow Scrapbook

    Very productive day out on the trail, really enjoyable and so cool to see the trail features getting really dialled in.

    Now we await the rain!

    Then more digging
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    good call on the B&W. and a good solid day, got lots done. improved several sections and identified a few more spots to address after the rain. looking forward to see how much water we get and how well it drains.

    i'm sure everyone wants to see photos of our local celebrity so without further ado



    squashyo, envisioning the flow



    Drew, demonstrating the flow



    Reba, whining


    here's one of the fine tunings we did today



    in the photo above we're looking down the trail toward the wall ride section. the berm we are on will guide us around this left turn and into a tight right + wallride before going into an uphill left.



    here we're right at the wall ride. most people will probably transition back somewhere in the area of where the pink ribbon is. if you've lost most of your momentum that's fine - you'll have a few feet of downhill and be able to pedal through the uphill left. but if you managed to keep your flow around the wall you'll be moving at some speed when entering the uphill left.

    problem: you get the sense you're getting kicked off the trail if you pin it past the drain.
    solution: inslope the grade reversal (it's currently pretty flat, maybe even a little outsloped)



    step 1. backslope. separate organics, find good material to build with. bring in the trusty rogue hoe... if you compare to the previous image you'll see not only a new pile of dirt has emerged, but also that the hillside above the trail (backslope) has been smoothed out. this gives us both material to create inslope that will keep us from getting pushed off the trail AND makes the hillside look like it wasn't Sasquatch's first day at the office.



    step 2. inslope. move the good material we gathered by backsloping the hillside above to the outside of the left turn.



    step 3. compact. tread is soft in the areas we added material and needs to be firmed up. hand tamper and plate compactor come in. this will help remove the air and shake all the particles up till they're resorted and more tightly aligned.



    step 4. this isn't really a separate step, but we need to make sure it's taken care of before we call it quits for the upcoming rain... drainage. here we've created a shallow and wide drain that outslopes at the bottom of the grade reversal. we're trying to make the angle of outslope relatively low since we want to keep the speed of water low (faster water = more erosion) it's also wide for the same reason, we want to "funnel" the water as little as possible.

    ok, you're probably bored.. so here's one more of squashyo




    and a chance to watch Drew show he doesn't just design dope trails







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    Thanks for all the pix and hard work everyone is doing!!
    This trail will be a great addition to Demo.
    Can't wait to ride it.
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    This trail looks awesome. Never been to Santa Cruz before and will be up there for Spring Break with the family. This trail won't happen to be open by April 19 will it? Any others like it in the Demo that I should check out? Amazing trail work fellas.

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    Demo Flow Scrapbook

    Quote Originally Posted by FijiRob View Post
    This trail looks awesome. Never been to Santa Cruz before and will be up there for Spring Break with the family. This trail won't happen to be open by April 19 will it? Any others like it in the Demo that I should check out? Amazing trail work fellas.
    No, we won't be done by April - there are seven sections for us to complete in total and right now we are working on one of those sections with some clearing of a second section just started.

    There are 3 other main trails descending from the Ridge Trail at Demo, which are Corral, Braille & Sawpit. Well worth checking out, but be aware they aren't beginner trails by any means.

    Check out Demo Forest on www.bayarearides.com for more info.

    Of course if you'd like to come help dig the new trail....
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    check it.


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    Tom Scribner Memorial Flow Trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    check it.

    Epic!



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    If not; still genius!
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    i thought it fitting

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    Demo Flow Scrapbook

    These time lapse videos are great! Nice job Bogdan
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    Trailwork Friday 3/7

    We will be working tomorrow (Friday 3/7) with a pretty good group. Weather and dirt should be great. Email me for details trails@mbosc.org

    Dirt was so nice yesterday Matt and I couldn't help but get what we were working on dialed. Not a beautiful bogdan or josh photo but you get the idea.

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    I will see if I can get a babysitter...I need to DIG man! Can you dig it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew p View Post

    Dirt was so nice yesterday Matt and I couldn't help but get what we were working on dialed. Not a beautiful bogdan or josh photo but you get the idea.

    Nice! This isn't familiar. Are you working on segment 3 these days?

    Wish I could join you tomorrow. After March 14th I'll have a lot more time to be part of the weekday crew. I'm really looking forward to working with you, Matt and the crew in the forest!

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    Information on the Morrison Trailblazer, Please

    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    Unofficial thread for images pertaining to the build-out of the new "Flow Trail" in Soquel Demonstration State Forest.

    For something more official go here Trail Talk | Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz (MBoSC)

    This was the second day Drew and crew were able to start rough cutting the trail with the Morrison Trailblazer; I was out to deliver a tool storage box and wound up getting greasy doing some minor repairs to the machine. Because of said greasiness I didn't feel like contaminating my camera so I instead used my iPhone to record some of the action. (apologies in advance)

    So here starts the scrapbook:


    Results of the first day's operation; for scale that's a 4' wide bench and a 4' vert. cut bank---at 100% the steepest side-slope along the whole route. Drew wanted to get it out of the way early. (Photo courtesy Drew Perkins)


    Drew (drewp) fires up the Morrison as Patty C (knobbyknees) gets a photo from a different direction.


    Trail cutting resumes. Looking like the engine may need an overhaul that's actually just water vapor from the cold start-up. I like the drama it added!


    The steep portion in the first photo the trail is cutting across an ancient(?) landslide scarp; here the trail is on the gentle slope formed where the slide came to stop.


    In this iPhone video Drew cuts the trail past a rare cluster of virgin-growth redwoods; the tape on trees is a reminder from CDF that they're not to be harmed in any way.


    As Drew moves beyond the old trees the tilt caused to one tree by the landside is evident (could be used to date the landslide).


    Looking back up the trail past one of the more up-right trees the natural "flow" of the terrain can be seen.

    Got photos??? Post 'em!
    Can you supply us (Mendocino Coast Cyclists and Dirt Dogs) with any information on this great little machine? We are drooling over something like this for our future trail development here on the North Coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    Can you supply us (Mendocino Coast Cyclists and Dirt Dogs) with any information on this great little machine? We are drooling over something like this for our future trail development here on the North Coast.
    It's a great little machine with a few quirks (nothing a talented operator can't overcome)

    The bad news is that they're no longer in production (1960's design???) and as such are no longer supported. So if your club has mechanical talent (for cheap) and you can find one used (around 60 were built???) then they're still a viable piece of machinery.

    The modern equivalent is this:
    Single Track: Specialty Trail Equipment



    Rather pricey but "ya gets what ya pay fer"!
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    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    It's a great little machine with a few quirks (nothing a talented operator can't overcome)

    The bad news is that they're no longer in production (1960's design???) and as such are no longer supported. So if your club has mechanical talent (for cheap) and you can find one used (around 60 were built???) then they're still a viable piece of machinery.

    The modern equivalent is this:
    Single Track: Specialty Trail Equipment



    Rather pricey but "ya gets what ya pay fer"!
    Thank you for your speedy reply. We're all familiar with the Single Track machine, but 90K is way out of budget for us. If you ever hear of any of the Morrison's for sale please let us know. We have a cadre of mechanics available in our club.

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    Good news...looks like I will be there tomorrow! giddyup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Good news...looks like I will be there tomorrow! giddyup.
    Come join us for a ride. We're meeting at Big River - East end at 11AM. Bring your saw. Lots of down stuff we're contending w/ lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    Come join us for a ride. We're meeting at Big River - East end at 11AM. Bring your saw. Lots of down stuff we're contending w/ lately.
    huh? My plan is to go work the Soquel Flow trail tomorrow so not sure what you mean. Plan to help Patty work on the 'other' trails Saturday. Good job clearing the other trails though...hope I can ride ST soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    huh? My plan is to go work the Soquel Flow trail tomorrow so not sure what you mean. Plan to help Patty work on the 'other' trails Saturday. Good job clearing the other trails though...hope I can ride ST soon.
    Lemme translate; RooHarris is up in Mendocino and thought your were implying that you were going to be "there" as in Mendo. (Your reply followed his reply to my reply)

    Why quoting always helps keep thing straight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew p View Post
    We will be working tomorrow (Friday 3/6) with a pretty good group. Weather and dirt should be great. Email me for details trails@mbosc.org

    Dirt was so nice yesterday Matt and I couldn't help but get what we were working on dialed. Not a beautiful bogdan or josh photo but you get the idea.

    i assume that should read tomorrow, friday 3/7?

    if so, is it really dry enough? and if so, anyone want to carpool from the southbay? Glenn, Josh, Porkmilker? i can carry one bike (or one fatbike with deflated tires)

    sidenote: Patty's email mentioned something about braille/ridge/sawpit trail work on Saturday 3/9 (which i assume means Saturday 3/8?)

    i'm already bad with dates, you guys are messing with me

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    I'd drive with you but need a quick gettaway should work or wife call. I am gonna play it safe and drive but happy to take you (though you will need to make a grand escape with me should something wacky happen). PM me if interested and we can set a meet up spot and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    huh? My plan is to go work the Soquel Flow trail tomorrow so not sure what you mean. Plan to help Patty work on the 'other' trails Saturday. Good job clearing the other trails though...hope I can ride ST soon.
    My mistake. I understood you might be heading our way on the Mendocino coast. In any case, ever up our way look us up.

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    Yes tomorrow 3/7!

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    Demo Flow Scrapbook

    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    anyone want to carpool from the southbay? Glenn, Josh, Porkmilker? i can carry one bike (or one fatbike with deflated tires)
    Only just seen this, but yes, let's car pool for the next one!
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    Q: do you like berms?




    banana slug says: no.. i prefer uphill floooooooooww




    Q: did you see bigfoot's new open toe shoe preference?




    Q: ever actually see a trail faerie?




    Q: why is Drew putting his hands where it clearly says not to?




    the answer to these, and many other questions you may have not asked can be answered by coming out to next week's MTBR dig-n-camp trailbuilding weekend. stoke.


    bring your bike




    and your work pants




    hmpf.




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    Pics from Friday's work day. We tackled Section 3 as 5 was too wet. Great fun, great crew, hard work!

    The crew plans their attack


    Though hard to tell, this gully will require a bridge...any carpenter's out there?


    This dude has a broken rib...what's your excuse?


    One tool won't cut it for Glenn


    coupla wacky dudes who love to dig!


    Colorful support


    working the stump


    working the stump 2


    These guys completely beat the stump from hell!


    The scene of the carnage


    We moved some crazy dirt to pump up this berm


    berm building action

    LUNCH!


    Not sure what to name this photo


    pretty berm


    Pretty berm 2


    Cool colors out there


    More berm action


    where's Matt?


    Drew working


    used piping to mark the line


    Tractor had enough


    Tractor fail...hope they still make this part (by the way, this is where your donations help)


    We will prevail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    used piping to mark the line
    That "piping" is a "flow stick", invented by the guys at Forest Trails Alliance. When they shared it with us a couple years ago, this was Drew's comments in an email.


    It seems they produce what would be called a "sine-generated curve" This is the same shape river meanders and bent spring steel (or pvc pipes?) form. The sine-generated curve has an interesting property in that the shape represents the most uniform distribution of change along a curve. A meandering river forms a sine-generated curve because it is the shape that allows the water to change direction using the minimum amount of energy. In the same way that shape allows the bicycle to change direction (both up/down and left/right) using the minimum amount of energy (which comes from shear forces applied to tires). It is the path that will turn a bicycle a certain angle over a certain distance using the minimal amount of energy which is then used to make the smile on your face bigger?
    Drew is a Cal Poly SLO and CCCMB alumni, doing great work. You guys are fortunate to have someone so knowledgeable, capable, and visionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus View Post
    Drew is a Cal Poly SLO and CCCMB alumni, doing great work. You guys are fortunate to have someone so knowledgeable, capable, and visionary.
    +∞

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    Tractor fail...hope they still make this part (by the way, this is where your donations help)
    yeah, that pillow block is probably going to run a hundo or two. Paul?

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    Holy damn crapflaps!!! Excellent work you fellas are putting forth!!! I wish I had a proper “tell the wife” excuse to get out there and help you all but she seems fixated on the notion that since I am unemployed that I need to spend almost every minute each weekday looking for a job… which as we all know is not logical/practical (she is in biotech, so a resume isn’t really needed… whereas I work web/creative, wherein supposedly any guy from India swears he can do the job).
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    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    +∞



    yeah, that pillow block is probably going to run a hundo or two. Paul?
    Yep, if the size Drew came up with is correct Motion Industries has them for $100.45 ea. for either the top or bottom units.

    NIB units on eBay for much less but that's a crap shoot.

    If the local suppliers don't have stock (which is possible because that shaft size is a bit uncommon) I could see the parts bill reaching $300 if stuff needs to be overnighted.

    Donate, donate, donate....
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    The easy way to help the flow trail, especially if you can't dig:

    Donate | Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz (MBoSC)
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    ride it like you built it. segment #5 is getting dialed.



    hip jump chubbed up today. fatty mc fat-fat been on a steady diet of chunk.. looking good on ya







    entry to the wall ride got some more attention



    u can't touch this



    bermzilla getting some more inslope. this turn is where it starts to get all bobsled-y, sending you through the tree gap





    a view from the entry..



    it's steep! and really takes some inslope to get you that brake-free confident grin (this will get another pass no doubt - cause tampin' ain't easy)



    nature!



    dogs!



    jumps!



















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    Posted this up on another thread but placing here for posterity.

    We worked 5 and 3 over the past few days. Tractor broke last weekend and we got the new parts today...but they didn't quite fit. We had to use the grinder to shorten some metal and the screws would not fit through the slots on one piece...grrr! However, these are all likely things we can fix with some ingenuity and machines. We put in a new berm and worked a lot of duff. We also started on the bridge...cutting pieces and material to getter done.

    As for section 5...SO RAD! My new favorite trail in Demo. The new jump is incredible. It holds a secret reward which I discovered today after three tries. If you can land on the downslope (not too hard with speed and some gumption), you scrub zero speed so you can easily clear the second kicker which then allows you enough speed for the last kicker into the berm. It all hinges on the first jump...I think that is so damn cool!

    I also finally doubled the rollers (Glenn's rollers). I wasn't sure I could clear those but the trail is so fast now, you can boost the first roller to land on the tranny pretty sweetly...so smooth and a great way to enter the bermy bermtastico. I had so much fun, I had to session it a few times even though I was late to get home! Anyhow...see you guys again soon!

    So, here's what to expect (sort of):

    We want to remove this sign and you will be a big part of that!


    You'll show up and sign in


    You will be assigned to a section and team leader. Your team leader will share everything you need to know about safety, strategy, and how to kick some ass.


    You'll grab a helmet and gear and head to your assigned segment (If you could, please bring a bike helmet in case we run out)


    Lucky for you, we have cleared all the muck...used to look like this


    Now it looks more like this




    Your team will scout your location and strategize...the line will be tagged on what to do


    Things you might do:

    Clear duff...find the dirt! Turn this:


    into this:




    You might:

    Widen and scrape duff to create diggable dirt (Duff...vegetation filled soil...bad for compacting...creates holes and erosion over time):


    Create a berm














    Compacting dirt to make it FAST!




    Build a bridge!

    Maybe even build a jump or two




    Or, you might just help us clear some more paths of sticks, leaves, and obstacles.

    Saturday will be section 3 which is most of what you see above. Sunday will be section 5 which is RAD but needs to be dialed in and ?maybe? finished!

    End of day, you will be stoked!!! And we will get a lot more of this:









    I am sure there is more I am missing but hopefully you get the idea. See you all soon!!!
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    Nice to meet you today. I still have 4 "Volunteer Day Offs" from work left this year, so I'll be seeing you guys out there again. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    I also finally doubled the rollers (Glenn's rollers). I wasn't sure I could clear those but the trail is so fast now, you can boost the first roller to land on the tranny pretty sweetly...so smooth and a great way to enter the bermy bermtastico. I had so much fun, I had to session it a few times even though I was late to get home!
    That's great to hear Josh, glad it's coming together as we hoped!

    Great photos again today. Will see you out on the trail soon.

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    Hey Josh, how was the shape of the lip on the jump into the berm after the super rad hip booter? I had to leave before I could test ride it and the dirt going into it was a bit sloppy anyway. If we want to shave more of a kick into it now's the time before it turns into concrete.

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    It's not bad but could see how a bit more lip could improve the loft. The dirt was really good yesterday. Still moist through this shady area but packing in nicely. It will definitely be harder to do anything after this weekend. Come out Friday if you can swing it!


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    Wow great job guys.

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    Re: Demo Flow Scrapbook

    I got bored scraping dirt so I took a break... And built this jump.





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    Sweet!

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    I got bored scraping dirt so I took a break... And built this jump.
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    This is wonderful.
    I don't rattle.

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    Hood Ornament

    I was in the Demo area today so I put the finishing touch on MBoSC's tool storage box:

    This badge makes MBoSC look like a pro outfit; which they are! Supplied by one of the many commercial donors (hey Drew want to give them props!?!?) to the project; this stainless plate was originally (as the story goes) a water-jet cut prototype branding iron for club tools; re-purposed as seen here. Would make a neat head-tube badge, ehh?

    Had my first "after" ride of segment #5; I must say that the photos posted here hardly do justice to the scale of the features on this trail---much more dirt had been moved than I had envisioned.

    Also hike-a-biked and partially rode segment #3; its features are even more lavish than segment #5 IMHO.

    Finally; more rain dancers please!!!
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    Big ole HUGE shout out to Santa Cruz Bicycles for coming out and helping us build today! They even fed us!!! You guys rock and make awesome bikes too. Here are some pics:

    SC Bikes:


    Tool talk with Matt:


    Ready to rock


    Ready to start shaping


    Odd pic of Drew turning into dirt...he has been non stop out there!


    Team work




    Deep in the berm we now call Salad Bar


    Packing the berm


    Shaping the berm


    Note to self, don't build jumps with unapproved wood...at least I got to hit it a few times...it was fun


    Post lunch crew


    That's better


    Berm


    Plate compacting


    Drew in the Zen Garden


    More shaping


    crew working hard


    Let's not forget the sweet trail


    I lasted all but 5 minutes using this thing compactor...works great though


    Raking is a big part of it


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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Big ole HUGE shout out to Santa Cruz Bicycles for coming out and helping us build today! They even fed us!!! You guys rock and make awesome bikes too. Here are some pics:

    Odd pic of Drew turning into dirt...he has been non stop out there!


    Shaping the berm
    I know Drew well enough to know he is about as happy as a human can be, living his dream life in the dirt.

    The berm shaper is Kyle! CCCMB alumni, now living his dream at SC bikes.

    Great to see people I know up there digging the flow.
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    here's a link to the photos from last weekend's mtbr dig: https://plus.google.com/photos/10042...29145902124801

    and from today's action with Santa Cruz Bikes: https://plus.google.com/photos/10042...23408217190801

    highlights from today: worked on the "salad bar." peeps i worked with last weekend will recognize this berm from seg 3.



    this thing is deep





    these guys can dig it





    ...and compact it



    these guys can test it









    big up to SC Bikes for coming out, and Max for taking point on the Squashyo/Modbog salad bar photo op.


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    The photos are always fantastic modbog. Loved looking through the complete G+ set. Thanks for putting them out there.

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    trail shredder and builder Matt De Young lays down some prose in the current issue of Adventure Sports Journal: Digging the Flow | Adventure Sports Journal


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    the hits keep coming! we're officially a finalist for the Bell Built Grant! stayed tuned for the public voting window April 7-20 (your votes can make this awesome trail more awesomer)

    Bell Bicycling and Motorcycle Helmets - Demo Flow Trail Bell Built Finalist



    shout out to Elliot Wilkinson-Ray for all his work getting this video together. and of course, a big thanks to Bell for the opportunity. stoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    trail shredder and builder Matt De Young lays down some prose in the current issue of Adventure Sports Journal: Digging the Flow | Adventure Sports Journal

    Just picked up the old school paper version here in SC. Nice shots man.

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    wanna buy five copies for my mother

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    Quote Originally Posted by modbog View Post
    wanna buy five copies for my mother
    Haha, save some for my mom, too! It was fun seeing those out in front of the local New Leaf. Nice photography
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    Is that the same plaid shirt from your 'doing the Egyptian' pose at the Louvre?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couch Bike Dude View Post
    Is that the same plaid shirt from your 'doing the Egyptian' pose at the Louvre?
    hah, good eye

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    article in the Santa Cruz Sentinel today! whoop-whoop!

    New trail up for Bell grant - Santa Cruz Sentinel

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    vote for the flow trail

    Get your vote in for the flow trail at demo

    Bell Bicycling and Motorcycle Helmets

    looks like demo is 600 votes behind Arizona.

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    I'm trying to vote for the Demo flow trail, but get this cryptic message:

    The reCAPTCHA wasn't entered correctly. Please try it again.

    Maybe something to do with the numbers code? Is there a space needed between the two numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    I'm trying to vote for the Demo flow trail, but get this cryptic message:

    The reCAPTCHA wasn't entered correctly. Please try it again.

    Maybe something to do with the numbers code? Is there a space needed between the two numbers?
    if you see two pictures with just numbers and no letters that is not recaptcha. it sounds like you're getting an error for "recaptcha" but being shown another captcha. refresh the page and you *should* get a new code with two separate words.

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    When is the next dig day?

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    Apparently my vote was accepted despite the reCAPTCHA error. I did get a few confirmation emails to click on for the vote to count. That only worked for the first email, the others responded that I had already voted (as expected - no double voting allowed unless you have multiple email addresses). Anyway, teh Arizona project was leading the vote by quite some margin. Come-on NORCAL mtbr make your vote count and support one of our local trails!
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