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    Quote Originally Posted by sosburn View Post
    Clicked on this expecting a video of a cow shredding crockett hills.
    Disappointed.
    I LOL'd

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    Just hiked out and check tree frog. Still very wet. Needs another week or two.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Just back from a ride at CH this afternoon...amazing weather, although we sure could use some rain. Trails at CH are in superb shape right now. A few damp spots and one or two squishy spots towards the bottom of tree frog, but basically superb with not a puddle anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    Just back from a ride at CH this afternoon...amazing weather, although we sure could use some rain. Trails at CH are in superb shape right now. A few damp spots and one or two squishy spots towards the bottom of tree frog, but basically superb with not a puddle anywhere.
    As good as 3 years ago?

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    No JC, not quite the same. Sugar City and Tree Frog are bumpier than they were...but are still a ton of fun. I still love riding there, especially now that Soaring Eagle has been fixed.

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    Has anyone ridden Crockett the past couple of days? Wondering if it has dried out from recent rains...Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    Has anyone ridden Crockett the past couple of days? Wondering if it has dried out from recent rains...Thanks
    See my post here:
    Favorite "green hill" rides for spring

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    Rode today, it was moderately bovine trashed up until Sugar City, which was extremely overgrown. I did not go to Tree Frog. It was dry on the parts I rode, but there is a recent report from mtbproject.com claiming Tree Frog is super muddy and overgrown.

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    In a BTCEB email it was mentioned that the overgrowth may get cut on May 7th.

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    Horribly overgrown on the flow portion.

    So many deep slimey piles of cow sh*t on the trial that goes from the tunnel up to the pad that I returned via the fire road.

    It looks like the overall surface of the trails is not in bad shape. No deep craters from hooves

    Oddly enough, the back trail (Treefrog?) is probably in the best shape of all trails in the park

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    I guess the cows are just filling in the potholes! Sounds like I should not bother there at least until the cow pies dry up and the park district (or whoever) brings a weed whacker to the overgrown sections.

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    I'll also add that the poison oak is rampant. Thereupon establishing it's wicked authority on my arm 3 days after my excursion

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    Is it just me or do a lot of people skip out on Tree Frog?

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    Tree frog is the main reason to ride Crockett if it's ridable.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Yeah I'm always surprised to see people usually wanting to head back to the car after sugar city. Even looking at a few friends strava they tend to just head back after sugar city.

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    Tree frog is also my favorite...I ride both SC and TF every time I ride CH....Although I also like Soaring eagle for its simplicity and views....hopefully the trails get cleaned up soon. Wish I had an industrial weed whacker, might do it myself if I did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    Tree frog is also my favorite...I ride both SC and TF every time I ride CH....Although I also like Soaring eagle for its simplicity and views....hopefully the trails get cleaned up soon. Which I had an industrial weed whacker, might do it myself if I did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Mackenzie View Post
    Is it just me or do a lot of people skip out on Tree Frog?
    I had plans to do both, but having never been before and losing some time due to the conditions up to the creek, I turned around because (a) I was running out of daylight and (b) I was afraid conditions on the far side might be worse. For sure looking forward to getting a chance to check it out when I know it's all clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee29 View Post
    I'll also add that the poison oak is rampant. Thereupon establishing it's wicked authority on my arm 3 days after my excursion
    Once I got up over the road it wasn't that bad, but, the amount of cows on the trail and the liquid shit everywhere mad it difficult to enjoy. I went down Sugar city and was amazed at how over grown it was and figured tree Frog wouldn't be worth it.

    Ended up riding back on the fire road so I didn't have to deal with all the cows and the unmovable bulls. I was covered in cow shit.

    I am deathly afraid of poison oak and I had to do some limbo like moves to get around it. There are a few sections where it's encroaching on the trail on the climb out of the parking lot.

    Curious how bad the poison oak is on Tree Frog.

    Is there a reason people don't park on Cummings Skyway to avoid that first climb?

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    I for one like that first climb...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieno View Post
    Is there a reason people don't park on Cummings Skyway to avoid that first climb?
    I think people were having their cars broken into?

    Sounds like Crockett Hills is back to it's old tricks, good conditions about 5% of the time. Crap the other 95%.
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    Isnt this the time of year they rototill the heck out of everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee29 View Post
    I'll also add that the poison oak is rampant. Thereupon establishing it's wicked authority on my arm 3 days after my excursion
    I must have some weird resistance against that stuff. This past weekend I had all the green stuff along the sides of Sugar City touching my arms and legs, and the previous weekend same story all over Henry Coe trails. I have a tiny itchy spot on each leg, but nothing bad.

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    Just did a hike and the main single track to the heli pad has been weed whacked. The cows have helped too, although the evidence is all over the trail. Ticks are all over the place too. I was careful and still found one on me.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Anyone ride Crockett this past week? Conditions?

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    If no one responds I'll go check it out on Saturday. Well either way I'm checking it out Saturday to break in a new bike. An email I saw from BTCEB said there would be some trail maintenance this week.

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    Single track on far side has been mowed and is 90% clear. Didn't make it all the way bake to tree frog.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Heading there tomorrow. Will report.

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    Short answer. Give it at least a week. The crew was still out there weedwacking Sugar City while we were there. The foreman said they would not finish today and would be back Tuesday.

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    Sugar City was cleared from the top until about three quarters of a mile from the end. Very abruptly you were into tall overgrowth. Yes, that six inch wide slot in front of my bike is the
    trail. You can see here that even where it was cut back, the dead vegetation was strewn across the trail, making it slippery. Especially in the switchbacks.

    Crockett Hills - EXTREME bovine trail trashing!-img_4686.jpg

    Looking back up after going through the muddy area below Sugar City

    Crockett Hills - EXTREME bovine trail trashing!-img_4696.jpg

    This is the exit of Tree Frog. It looked overgrown too so we didn't climb up that hill at all, because we didn't want to come out through this. We did go up the fire road a bit to see what it was like. You can barely tell Goldfinch trail ever existed. Just grass out there now.

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    The work crew showed up on Big Valley (fire road) trail just as we were pausing to brush a ton of ticks off our clothes. A crew cab truck full of guys with weedwackers. The foreman said they'll need at least one more work day at it to finish Sugar City, and that would be next week. I asked him if he knew about Tree Frog and he just shrugged. Not part of his assignment.

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    These little bastards. Must have brushed a couple dozen of them off.

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    After the ride we were planning on going to Valona Deli in Crockett, but its windows were all covered up and it appears to be out of business. That place was great. I was bummed. We went to a Mexican place off of Willow Drive a few exits up the freeway. It was OK.

    Salmon tacos:

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    After I got home a thorough search turned up one last passenger that had come along.

    Crockett Hills - EXTREME bovine trail trashing!-img_4721.jpg

    All in all, a bit more of adventure than we bargained for.

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    thanks for the update! I will take your advice and hold off for another week or so.

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    Does anyone else like how drifty sugar city gets after they trim the weeds but before they clear out the cut weeds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somanygoodbikes View Post
    Sugar City was cleared from the top until about three quarters of a mile from the end. Very abruptly you were into tall overgrowth. Yes, that six inch wide slot in front of my bike is the
    trail. You can see here that even where it was cut back, the dead vegetation was strewn across the trail, making it slippery. Especially in the switchbacks.

    ...

    All in all, a bit more of adventure than we bargained for.
    Great report / trail update. Appreciated!

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    Any recent updates on the conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee29 View Post
    Any recent updates on the conditions?
    I rode there Sunday and it was terrible. The bottom 1/4-ish of Sugar City was overgrown, but not that bad compared to Tree Frog. Tree Frog was overgrown on maybe half, but it was all thistles. I'm still picking thistle thorns out of my fingers, and my legs and forearms are covered in small punctures. It just...sucked.

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    Edwards loop was good, and soaring eagle was mostly clear. If you can do a few laps of that and not hit the other side of the hill it would be much better IMO

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    What a bummer..why can't they just clear off all the trails every spring...the ticks really make me nervous as well. I guess I'm holding off longer before riding there.

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    Does BTCEB no longer do trailwork there? Is it handled only by the parks administration or whatever? I haven't seen emails from them regarding trailwork recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Mackenzie View Post
    Does BTCEB no longer do trailwork there? Is it handled only by the parks administration or whatever? I haven't seen emails from them regarding trailwork recently.
    I think it was touched on someplace in this thread, but as I understand it, EBRPD has contracts with union workers for trail maintenance, so volunteer trail work days are minimal.
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    The BTCEB has a partnership with East Bay Parks at Crockett Hills , this is a formal written agreement. This is the only park that has such a agreement. The BTCEB can do certain trail maintenance jobs without supervision from park staff. The agreement started after the rains stopped. So far the has been a few small jobs that have been handled by a few BTCEB trail volunteers . In the future look for trail work days on Meetup.com under the the BTCEB page.

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    Any recent updates on trail conditions? - thanks!

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    My friends who rode there last Friday sed lower Sugar City still needs mowing, AND it should be renamed Tick City!

    Call Crocker & ask about mowing?

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