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    Quote Originally Posted by duderidesabike View Post
    Anyone dared ride Auburn since Thursday?
    Rode it today. It's a mess! No risk of damaging anything except Culvert and even then it's not bad as long as you stay of the berms. We rode slow and easy. We mainly wanted the climbing exercise.

    Manzanita/Flood/Clementine/Culvert/Confluence/Stagecoach

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Rode it today. It's a mess! No risk of damaging anything except Culvert and even then it's not bad as long as you stay of the berms. We rode slow and easy. We mainly wanted the climbing exercise.

    Manzanita/Flood/Clementine/Culvert/Confluence/Stagecoach
    Thanks for the heads up!

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    Any report on Nevada City Trails?
    Thanks in advance

    The nordic centers all closed with the rains and all holiday/winter beer gut mitigation is reliant on nordic centers......

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Svahn View Post
    Any report on Nevada City Trails?
    Thanks in advance

    The nordic centers all closed with the rains and all holiday/winter beer gut mitigation is reliant on nordic centers......
    Shoot Matt F. a message. According to his IG account he rode there yesterday.

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    Browns Ravine was pretty sloppy today(Sunday). With the frost, the bad spots likely to be bad for a few more days
    Every trails a flow trail ifya would just learn how to ride-stop dumbing down the planet

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    Hoping to go for a ride tomorrow. Now that everyone got their weekend ride in, what's the consensus on the least muddy trail within about an hour of Sac? Sounds like Auburn might be out. Hidden Falls? Granite Bay? Skunk Hollow?

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    ^ GB for sure, other than puddles that remain. Salmon Falls probably the same. Skunk Hollow becomes a mess at the top of the singletrack climb, on the muddy fireroad, then more mud in Cronan.

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    GB was in great shape aside from the usual puddles before park road. The freeze - thaw cycle creates nasty peanut butter mud on SFART ime.
    The two options right now would be GB or Salmon Falls.

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    GB for sure, the freeze thaw cycle really messes with the other trails and will not be worth the damage just to ride them. On top of the freeze thaw the compacted dirt makes it harder for the water to penetrate keeping more puddles on top. SFART is one of those trails that gets chewed up if people ride it too early, especially the initial climb out.

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    Glad I asked, I was pretty much set on going to SFART. Granite Bay it was. A few puddles and sloppy sections, but overall it was in great shape.

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    Any guesses on how Auburn might be Thursday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Svahn View Post
    Any report on Nevada City Trails?
    Thanks in advance

    The nordic centers all closed with the rains and all holiday/winter beer gut mitigation is reliant on nordic centers......
    Freeze/thaw cycle isn't letting things dry out very well in NC. Couple that with all the clay and you've got a gooey mess.
    Loma Rica may be in good shape since it drains well(ish) and gets more sun. I'm going to ride it today and will report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtssogood View Post
    Any guesses on how Auburn might be Thursday?

    What Shonbo wrote re: Nv City very much applies to Auburn. Of course, Divide Loop and Culvert (the most commonly ridden trials) are the most susceptible. The stagecoach/manzanita side is usually a little better, save for Flood trail which is super clay-ey and shaded well...


    Quote Originally Posted by Shonbo View Post
    Freeze/thaw cycle isn't letting things dry out very well in NC. Couple that with all the clay and you've got a gooey mess.
    Loma Rica may be in good shape since it drains well(ish) and gets more sun. I'm going to ride it today and will report back.
    WTH is there to ride in/around Loma Rica?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanxj View Post
    WTH is there to ride in/around Loma Rica?
    Sorry, I guess that wasn't very clear. There's a fun little trail system in Grass Valley near the Loma Rica Ranch off Brunswick Rd. Most around here refer to it as Loma Rica.
    On that note, I attempted to ride it today and aborted. It's a complete mess and, if it keeps freezing overnight, likely won't dry out enough to be rideable before Friday's forecasted rains.

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    I rode Auburn today with mixed results. Culvert is trashed. It looks like it has seen a lot of traffic the last few days and there is a ton of water/mud holes on the trail. Confluence was pretty much perfect. No standing water and the trail was dry. The gate to mammoth bar was closed with a sign saying the area was closed due to unsafe weather conditions so be fore warned. I looks like we are about to get hit with another big storm so I would get out and ride tomorrow if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzorich View Post
    Culvert is trashed. It looks like it has seen a lot of traffic the last few days and there is a ton of water/mud holes on the trail.
    That makes baby Jesus cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    That makes baby Jesus cry.
    Don't worry... ASRA should have a trail maintenance day scheduled by 2023 to give Culvert some love... if you can wait that long ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Don't worry... ASRA should have a trail maintenance day scheduled by 2023 to give Culvert some love... if you can wait that long ;-)
    I think we could probably have a maintenance and fix a lot of it in one shot. screw waiting for ASRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzorich View Post
    I think we could probably have a maintenance and fix a lot of it in one shot. screw waiting for ASRA.
    I'm listening....
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    If the idiots that ride right after we get 4 inches of rain in Auburn would stop the issue would not be nearly as great. I've seen
    so many bikes in Auburn that were totally unrecognizable due to mud that it makes me sick. I'm sure all those guys and girls get their 12 hours of trail work done every year to make up for it......

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    If we could get a handful of people to show up we could easily buff the trail out in a few hours. The lower section is pretty good still, Its really just the top 1/3 that needs it. I would be down to throw a post up on here in the coming month. Jan is usually a fairly dry month then it starts coming down hard in feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Allan View Post
    If the idiots that ride right after we get 4 inches of rain in Auburn would stop the issue would not be nearly as great. I've seen
    so many bikes in Auburn that were totally unrecognizable due to mud that it makes me sick. I'm sure all those guys and girls get their 12 hours of trail work done every year to make up for it......

    SOoo true.

    The fact that the CES race was just announced will not help the cause this winter/spring.
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    SOoo true.

    The fact that the CES race was just announced will not help the cause this winter/spring.[/QUOTE]

    And my guess is CES will not do any repair work after the race and the trails will be trashed for the rest of the summer

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    But Culvert Trail is so sustainable!!!

    Oh yeah, it's flat and collects water in the middle of the trail instead of shedding it... Stupid.

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    I road Ashland after the OES.

    Complete garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renovatio View Post
    I road Ashland after the OES.

    Complete garbage.
    I think thats complete horse$!!*. If these big events are going to come around and be held on public land…

    A. they need to have a crew go through the trails after and try to buff them out or

    B. put up some money from what they made at the event and sponsor are trail day after the event. I mean buy pizza for some people and maybe have a raffle for anyone that shows up and helps clean the trails after they get abused. Its the least they could do.

    Im all for racing but s!!* like this leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Im happy people will be getting out and on there bikes but now those specific trails in the coming months will see even more traffic before and durning the race with people not caring about conditions or how they treat the trail. To me it seems like CES could really care less. I could be wrong but i haven't seen anything that says or shows otherwise.

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    Keep in mind that doing post race mitigation in Auburn (or Granite Bay) is ultimately obstructed by State Parks, even if the promoters (and official volunteers) want to fix evidence of their races. By the time "moving dirt" was approved, it would be 3 to 7+ years from now.

    It's not like cyclocross on City property: Cyclists buck up for trashed North Auburn trail | Auburn Journal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Keep in mind that doing post race mitigation in Auburn (or Granite Bay) is ultimately obstructed by State Parks, even if the promoters (and official volunteers) want to fix evidence of their races. By the time "moving dirt" was approved, it would be 3 to 7+ years from now.
    I've got it! We have a MTB "race" where you have to do sections of trail work during the event. Sort of like chugging a beer but instead it's swinging a McLeod!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BStrummin View Post
    I've got it! We have a MTB "race" where you have to do sections of trail work during the event. Sort of like chugging a beer but instead it's swinging a McLeod!
    Perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Keep in mind that doing post race mitigation in Auburn (or Granite Bay) is ultimately obstructed by State Parks, even if the promoters (and official volunteers) want to fix evidence of their races. By the time "moving dirt" was approved, it would be 3 to 7+ years from now.


    I heard that some of the events in those same State Parks put on by runners have trail work built into the permit for their events....

    I cant prove it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanxj View Post
    I heard that some of the events in those same State Parks put on by runners have trail work built into the permit for their events....

    I cant prove it though
    I don't believe it is baked into the permit, but to qualify for Western States (and possibly a couple other local ultras), participants are required to do something like 4 hours of trailwork. Some showed up to one of the Browns Ravine work days last December.

    None of them brought an awesome golf bag, by the way ;-)

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    A will built trail can handle rain. It's amazing how many"professional" trails don't handle rain at all. Sometimes it makes you wonder.

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    Well they did OES in september (or something like that) so its not like they could fix anything.

    If you ever road ashland, catwalk trail was 95% braking bumps, every corner in bullgap was destroyed, even catapiller wasn't in good shape

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    Can anyone estimate when Auburn will be in decent condition? It looks like its going to be fairly dry until the end of january. I want to make the road trip down there

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    How are we looking folks? I'm starting to forget what it's like to ride a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duderidesabike View Post
    How are we looking folks? I'm starting to forget what it's like to ride a bike.
    Granite Bay is too wet. Lots of large puddles that you don't want to ride through.

    Auburn - Manzanita and Confluence are good. Culvert is a no fly zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Granite Bay is too wet. Lots of large puddles that you don't want to ride through.

    Auburn - Manzanita and Confluence are good. Culvert is a no fly zone.
    And there is a TBF race at Granite Bay today so it will be a little crowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower View Post
    And there is a TBF race at Granite Bay today so it will be a little crowded.
    Today too? I thought it was just yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Today too? I thought it was just yesterday.
    Saturday and Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower View Post
    Saturday and Sunday.
    Damn. The trails are going to get thrashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Damn. The trails are going to get thrashed.
    That's why I have been riding the shoreline until the trails dryout.

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    Auburn report:

    Foresthill connector - good
    Culvert - SUPER muddy- not even worth the effort and not going to be good for some time to come.
    Confluence- good w/ a couple of stream crossings
    Clementine - good

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    Quote Originally Posted by duderidesabike View Post
    Auburn report:

    Foresthill connector - good
    Culvert - SUPER muddy- not even worth the effort and not going to be good for some time to come.
    Confluence- good w/ a couple of stream crossings
    Clementine - good
    Agreed. Adding

    Manzanita - Good
    Flood - Mostly Good

    Confluence was great. I almost PRd without trying. My buddy was jibbing in front of me and bailed after a cased jump so half the run I was seated pedaling. The 2nd half I was on the gas. Haha

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    Confluence was a blast but I definitely was taking it easy not knowing what kind of shape the trail would be in. Was really surprised how good it was.

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    Rode Granite Bay Monday...what a mess. I don't remember seeing them that bad in the past but maybe I missed something. Quite a few big puddles and slick muddy spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Damn. The trails are going to get thrashed.
    Yes I saw pictures of the race Monday.
    What a mess some of the trails are so wide now I couldn't even figure out what trails they were.
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    I know it's not a MTB trail but there is a slide blocking the Jedediah Smith ARBT just south of Negro Bar on Lake Natoma.

    Orangevale cliff gives way, blocks bike trail

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    Anybody ride Rockville? I'm thinking about hitting it on Friday. I would imagine it cleans up pretty quick but was just seeing if anyone else has been there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    Rode Granite Bay Monday...what a mess. I don't remember seeing them that bad in the past but maybe I missed something. Quite a few big puddles and slick muddy spots.
    Even worse now. I rode last night. Nothing like this in the past. The ruts in several places are crazy deep. The pictured cell just sat over GB on Monday 1/23, dumping rain and hail. It was like a sick joke and it delivered a serious blow. I road last week and it was bad, but not like now.

    There are also a number of places that people are riding in the grass to avoid puddles. So lame! I saw some obvious places a drain can be cut and I'm planning to get up there this weekend and address a few of those spots. I'm pretty sure we haven't see the last of storms this year and I'd hate to see things get even worse still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbg33k View Post
    Anybody ride Rockville? I'm thinking about hitting it on Friday. I would imagine it cleans up pretty quick but was just seeing if anyone else has been there.
    I ride Rockville quite a bit. I rode last week in-between storms and it was fairly wet. They did have some trails closed but still managed to get a decent ride in. As long as it stays sunny out for the rest of the week I'm guessing it will be just fine. The park drains very well.

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