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    Calories in, Calories Out - STCP Newbie Ride

    Back by popular (?) demand: it's the STCP Newbie Ride!

    VERY chill pace for those wanting to explore the park a little. Nothing too drastic, but we will hit the lighter trails of STCP. Including Fortini, Mine Trail, Pueblo, Bernal Loop, Ohlone, Stile Ranch (Dark Side).

    If the group feels up to it, we can try to tackle Coyote Peak climb, but it's a bit of a grinder, and we'll have to look at the fitness levels of all. LOTS of stops, reviewing of lines (if people are curious), braking points, shifting points, etc.

    I'm going to avoid RR on this ride.

    Again, I would like as many new riders to come. The loop will only be about 1,000 of elevation gain, and we will have plenty of breaks for people to catch their breath.

    I'd like a large group, so let's figure out a day to make this happen with the best turn-out.

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    I'm in-I haven't ridden in 3 weeks which sucks and I'm sure I'm gonna show it on my climbing-

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    Oh thought this was for this Sunday-

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    I never been there. How many miles? I don't mind the social pace, I'll bring the SS. Just wondering if its worth the 48 miles from East Bay?
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    So it's worth it if a big group goes and you like to laugh as your riding-it is a 'social' group-it was something i looked forward to on Sundays til Dion dropped the ball-anyways-that is a bit of a drive though-may not be worth it for STP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Oh thought this was for this Sunday-
    It can be for Sunday, as long as we get enough people. Otherwise, we'll just make it a regular TSP ride and not a newbie ride.

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    I wanna ride-I gonna be slow though-wait-I always am! Happy thanksgiving everyone!

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    Where would people meet up? If I can figure out a way to get my bike from Santa Cruz down there I'd like to come ride.

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    Harry Rd. and Camden Rd. Intersection in Almaden (San Jose).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymouseTech View Post
    Where would people meet up? If I can figure out a way to get my bike from Santa Cruz down there I'd like to come ride.
    You're trading Santa Cruz trails for STCP?!? Although Stiles and Rocky Ridge are GREAT FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    It can be for Sunday, as long as we get enough people. Otherwise, we'll just make it a regular TSP ride and not a newbie ride.
    no more Sunday Mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tosa View Post
    You're trading Santa Cruz trails for STCP?!? Although Stiles and Rocky Ridge are GREAT FUN!
    Yeah but he has these near by all the time and he's heard about the great TSP! It's not just the ride-it's the people! He wants to venture and say done that been there-cause lets face it-TSP is no SC-

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    And yeah Dion stop spending so much time on YouTube and Facebook and start leading some rides again for Tosa's sake. Otherwise Leopold will have to step up and we move to Kennedy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tosa View Post
    You're trading Santa Cruz trails for STCP?!? Although Stiles and Rocky Ridge are GREAT FUN!
    Never ridden STCP so I don't know what it has to offer.

    Also I haven't ridden with anyone other than my gf on slower rides since moving here two months ago. I used to have a few people in the East Bay to ride with but now I don't live around there anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    ...have to step up and we move to K***edy!
    You said the "K" word. Don't ever use that language when I'm present. EVER!!!!

    WE don't say the "K" word, okay? I want to be very clear on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ0913 View Post
    I never been there. How many miles? I don't mind the social pace, I'll bring the SS. Just wondering if its worth the 48 miles from East Bay?
    If you want to carpool on Sunday, I'm in Fremont. STP is worth hitting up. I'm wanting to tackle the no dap climb on RR.

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    So, this sounds like what the Team Social Pace rides used to be like a year ago or so. A year on now, several of the slow TSP guys have become Cat2 and Cat3 XC racers. Team Social Pace rides, taken in succession, can make you faster. Thats the only conclusion I can come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Otherwise Leopold will have to step up and we move to Kennedy!
    Nah, I left my heart in Stile Ranch Trail and Rocky Ridge, especially having recently (finally!) completed a no-dabs up Rocky Ridge on the least likely bike choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbay Bomber View Post
    If you want to carpool on Sunday, I'm in Fremont. STP is worth hitting up. I'm wanting to tackle the no dap climb on RR.
    union city here ready to carpool - have a truck that will bus 4 +bikes. Itching to get out to these places im reading about online

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    There it is! SUNDAY 25th, 10:00am, meet at the corner of Harry Rd. and Camden Ave. We'll assess the fitness/skill level of all and take it from there!

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    Why don't you guys start on the ST side of the park and then climb up Joyce...? that initial part after the flats of Norred gets the heart pumping, then circle the park via Mine Trail and on up Hidden Springs to the tower....

    Then it's all downhill from there Either RR or scream back down Hidden Springs... though I've never descended Boundary...

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    Because it's a newbie ride and we don't want to kill 'em on the first climb.

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    Not to rub it in but you missed a great one this morning Dion. Crystal clear, not too cold at the start, maybe not as big a turnout as last year, but still fun.

    I'd kinda like to do the Sunday ST ride. Not going to know until Sat afternoon as a few of us are doing an epoch cyclocross run. Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    Not to rub it in but you missed a great one this morning Dion. Crystal clear, not too cold at the start, maybe not as big a turnout as last year, but still fun.

    I'd kinda like to do the Sunday ST ride. Not going to know until Sat afternoon as a few of us are doing an epoch cyclocross run. Cheers!
    I know!

    I had to run around and doing some finishing up before the in-laws showed. I'm sure I will enjoy the pics, though!

    Yes, come on by! It'll be chill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Because it's a newbie ride and we don't want to kill 'em on the first climb.
    I'm not quite a newbie, but that climb would kill me too. I think it's 2nd only to Boundary, due to the length and steepness.

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    Alright so whose riding Sunday?

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    Oh and I may try my luck at Kennedy again tomorrow-I said it! Kennedy!!!!!!! Or st joes-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Oh and I may try my luck at Kennedy again tomorrow-I said it! Kennedy!!!!!!! Or st joes-
    Dude, I thought you were riding with us at STCP?

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    Oh, wait, I thought tomorrow is Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Oh, wait, I thought tomorrow is Sunday.
    Ha! Someone else had a long weekend and forgot what day it was!

    Our killer cyclocross run kinda petered out, so a few of us are going to do STCP tomorrow, Saturday.
    Assuming it doesn't kick my hiney too much, I'll be there Sunday!
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    wish I would have seen this sooner... maybe next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncruz408 View Post
    wish I would have seen this sooner... maybe next time.
    Cancel whatever you have.

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    Hmmmm this sounds like it might be a fun ride to bring the cx bike...

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    Just moved in!

    We just moved into our new-to-us house last weekend! We're just two short blocks from the Joyce trail entrance.

    I slipped a disc in my back the week before that and I haven't ridden in a month due to fixing this place up so that it's livable and packing/moving from the old apartment. I coud *really* use a newbie pace ride (I'm no record setter to begin with).

    If I can get a day-pass from house stuff, I'd love to join you.

    I rode up Joyce trail a couple onths ago and it's definitely a lung-buster. Is there a less steep way up from the ST side? Maybe I'll start an hour early so I can catch my breath before we get riding as a group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSRguy View Post
    We just moved into our new-to-us house last weekend! We're just two short blocks from the Joyce trail entrance.

    I slipped a disc in my back the week before that and I haven't ridden in a month due to fixing this place up so that it's livable and packing/moving from the old apartment. I coud *really* use a newbie pace ride (I'm no record setter to begin with).

    If I can get a day-pass from house stuff, I'd love to join you.

    I rode up Joyce trail a couple onths ago and it's definitely a lung-buster. Is there a less steep way up from the ST side? Maybe I'll start an hour early so I can catch my breath before we get riding as a group.
    #1 WELCOME!

    #2 Sorry about your back. OUCH!

    #3 If you go on Strava, you will find a trail Leopold Porkstacker (Brett) aptly named "Dion's Cholapocalypse" That is a MUCH easier and faster way to get to the SC side. Climb up Bernal Rd. and about 100 yards up look to the left side. You will see a guard rail. Hop over that and take the old pavement road up. Don't hammer up it because I am in the top 10 on this Strava segment and I don't want to be kicked down!!

    Strava Segment | Dion's Cholapocalypse

    I used to call this Apocalypse Rd. (because it's over grown with wild animal turds and it looks like the apocalypse), but then we realized that it passes Muriel Girls Ranch (where the Cholas live - they will shank you)... and my name got thrown in there. So - "Dion's Cholapocalypse"

    It will spit you into the Pueblo Parking area and you can descend Fortini to Harry Rd. Much easier way to get up and over. That Joice Trail is a steep SOB - not a very nice trail considering it seems like it was named after a pre-school teacher. ( I know it was not - I'm just saying!). People spell it on Strava "Joyce" but it's actually "Joice"
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    Oh, FWIW: I'll be in all-black (I pretty much ONLY wear black) and on a yellow 1986 Rockhopper.

    What do you guys want to do? I know some mentioned climbing RR, but this won't be that kind of ride.

    If climbing RR is a "10" and riding Fortini Trail is a "1" - what level do you guys feel comfortable with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    #1 WELCOME!

    #2 Sorry about your back. OUCH!

    #3 If you go on Strava, you will find a trail Leopold Porkstacker (Brett) aptly named "Dion's Cholapocalypse" That is a MUCH easier and faster way to get to the SC side. Climb up Bernal Rd. and about 100 yards up look to the left side. You will see a guard rail. Hop over that and take the old pavement road up. Don't hammer up it because I am in the top 10 on this Strava segment and I don't want to be kicked down!!

    Strava Segment | Dion's Cholapocalypse

    I used to call this Apocalypse Rd. (because it's over grown with wild animal turds and it looks like the apocalypse), but then we realized that it passes Muriel Girls Ranch (where the Cholas live - they will shank you)... and my name got thrown in there. So - "Dion's Cholapocalypse"
    Sounds like they have a good program there:
    - Muriel M. Wright Residential Center for Girls

    Program Overview: The Center is a minimum-security detention and rehabilitation facility that has a privilege-based positive reinforcement program. The goal of the Wright Center program is to help the wards learn personal responsibility by increasing social, academica, and communications kills prior to their release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Oh, FWIW: I'll be in all-black (I pretty much ONLY wear black) and on a yellow 1986 Rockhopper.

    What do you guys want to do? I know some mentioned climbing RR, but this won't be that kind of ride.

    If climbing RR is a "10" and riding Fortini Trail is a "1" - what level do you guys feel comfortable with?
    Up Stiles Ranch, down to the restrooms, up the fire road to Coyote Pk, along the ridge and down Rocky Ridge!
    Anyway that's what we're doing this afternoon
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    We (David, Marco, Paul, me) were out there today and the conditions were just about perfect. Plenty of hero dirt still to be enjoyed by the masses.
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    I'll be riding Santa Teresa tomorrow morning, so you'll run into me for sure (not too hard).

    My slow pace is definitely social. I don't want to slow down the group, which seems to be getting hard core riders. But in the past social rides we scattered all over anyway, coming in different sides and times, getting separated, getting found, leaving when one's done regardless of the group. All fine for this sort of ride.

    We can meet up and ride together sorta. I'm up for anything.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSRguy View Post
    I rode up Joyce trail a couple onths ago and it's definitely a lung-buster. Is there a less steep way up from the ST side? Maybe I'll start an hour early so I can catch my breath before we get riding as a group.
    The first part of Joice isn't bad. Turn left onto Norred, before the lungs realize you just sprinted. Take Norred to Mine, left onto Mine and follow it down onto Heaten Moore. Turn right on Heaton Moore, and follow it to Bernal, then turn right onto Bernal and a left back into STCP. Turn right at the first junction, follow that up, look for a paved road on the left. Take the left and follow that up.

    Or you can climb up Bernal, which isn't steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Oh and I may try my luck at Kennedy again tomorrow-I said it! Kennedy!!!!!!! Or st joes-
    Are you playing in my yard on Sunday ?
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    Did it rain? We still on yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    Are you playing in my yard on Sunday ?
    No didn't make it out yesterday-

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    Planning to head out here for the first time. Probably won't make it out until noon, coming from Stockton
    What do you guys recommend to get the best experience. I'm the slowest and weakest when it comes to climbing but I'm confident when it comes to technical and fast descend.
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    I was out there Saturday morning.

    I went up norred, Joice, bernal hill, down stiles, out and back to the lake out on almaden expressway. Then back up fortini rest at the picnic area. Then cross the park to the small parking lot then back down bernal, joice and norred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fujiblue1 View Post
    Planning to head out here for the first time. Probably won't make it out until noon, coming from Stockton
    What do you guys recommend to get the best experience. I'm the slowest and weakest when it comes to climbing but I'm confident when it comes to technical and fast descend.
    Too bad you can't make it with us - today is definitely the "Tour". Be sure to hit up Rocky Ridge, Stile Ranch and Ohlone. On every situation - you will have to climb to get to or to come back from - so just be mentally prepared for climbing.

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    A bit wet out my door this morning, at the Harry & Camden entrance.

    The mud/clay could be bad right now. Chancy. Hot line says the park is open at 9AM. But that's law of man, not the laws of mud physics.

    I'll see if the sun comes out later today and it drys up a bit.

    Was there ever a start time? Or just catch as can?
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    10am! The dampness was just from the fog - there was no rain last night.

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    So it is open-dang maybe need to take the Fat Bike?!?

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