Boggs III Aftermath
I think a few folks are still trickling home but wanted to get a thread started. Pics? Memories? Share here.
Was my first endurance race and it was fun. It is really great to have such a fantastic cheering section every time you come around to the start line. The MTBR crew, complete with cowbells and every snack imaginable, was a great energy boost. The course was a lot of fun too. By the third lap, those sweet downhill sections were becoming memorized meaning I could go a lot faster.
I also have to say that the very best part of the race was the fact that Sarah did 6 laps. Even though she didn't take any medals home, she, by far, was the clear winner. She established goals, trained for them, and set out to achieve them with determination. And she succeeded. I know Sarah's drive kept me going and was an inspiration.
I raced solo sport men (Dirt rag wool jersey, baby blue kish) and dear god I felt some pain. I managed to crash on the first mile due to those damn pine needles. My goal was 7 laps, but when I finished my 7th and heard the announcer's yell 'Do one more' (someone even added a 'Don't be a pu$$y'), well my manhood was challenged and I went for it. There wasn't much left in my legs at that point, so I had to push my bike up every hill. Ended up dizzy, disoriented, and in a with the hiccups for the next four hours.
74 miles (seemed like more)
8:05:00 on the bike
6 bottles of water / 8 electrolyte drinks / 5 cliffbars / two full flasks of hammer gel / 1 beer
Thanks to all who I talked to on the trail, props to the Madcat guys, and Carlos and all of Bikemonkey for a great event.
Last edited by vodkamike3; 04-06-2008 at 01:06 PM.
Along with being way out-of-shape and sick with this cold bug going around, I only made 3 laps. However, Garmin says each lap was closer to 1700' of climbing and not 1100' like they thought... http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5322792
Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul.
Curse you Coe!
Somewhere between taking in the beautiful views of Boggs State Forest and muscle locking leg cramps, I had the opportunity to chat-and-ride with some of the fine folks of forum 67. I spotted Sarah on the course and pulled along to chat. When asked how many laps she has completed she replied "oh I dunno 5 laps, but it could be my 4th. I lost count." Inspired by her words, I continued on trying not to think about going faster or pushing harder but just enjoying the moment.
3rd lap lowlight: I nearly ate dirt on a less than ideal take off and poor landing at Gail's jump. It was ugly from start to finish. Landed front wheel heavy, bottomed the fork, held on for dear life, and rode out without clipping out. Why wasn't someone there with a camera?!
That was quite a race. I managed 7 laps in 7 hours and 28 minutes. The first two laps I was chasing Jeff (H), who started out with a pretty darn fast pace (55 minute laps), but I passed him on the third lap and kept biking hard the whole race to stay ahead. Only afterwards, I found out that he had to quit after 5 laps with his back hurting. I hope you're feeling better today Jeff.
In the fourth or fifth lap I traded places with Raphael (Grrrah) several times until he rode away from me. I had given up on seeing him again, when I saw him kindly letting faster riders pass in my seventh lap. It gave me the motivation to race a bit harder in the final lap and I finished 2 minutes ahead of him. I would have been first in the solo men beginner category, but only finished 7 out of 11 in the masters 50+ group. Those guys, such as John (jms), are fast!
Menso did 9 laps, but will write his own race report.
Thanks for the cheering section. It was always fun to start each lap with all the encouragement.
We'll do it again next year. First there's the Napa Dirt Classic next week, and Sea Otter the week after.
P.S. Here are my stats:
lap 1: 55:41 + 1:39 rest (half a powerbar and some apple slices)
lap 2: 55:26 + 0.:52 rest (the other half of the Powerbar and a bite of a ham and cheese sandwich)
lap 3: 56:19 + 0:37 rest (no time for a break, just grab some food and go: need to stay ahead of Jeff)
lap 4: 1:01:34 + 5:16 rest (Menso finished his 5th lap during my rest stop and we start together on the next lap, just as Jeff finishes his fourth lap)
lap 5: 1:04:12 + 5:01 rest (Starting to use the granny gear on the climbs. I was surprised to see Menso sitting at the rest area at the end of the lap. He needed to refuel badly. I gave him a Boost drink, which was providing me with a lot of energy too.)
lap 6: 1:11:43 + 4:42 rest (even the downhills were slow now. Scott lubed my chain and I had one more Boost, a Hammer gel and another Powerbar. Switched from Gatorade to RockStar Pomegranate juice in the water bottle.)
lap 7: 1:05:20 for a total time of 7:28:24. I was glad I couldn't bike a lap in less than an hour and could start the rest and recovery process, instead of doing another lap.
Last edited by JL de Jong; 04-06-2008 at 12:27 PM.
Also known as Menso's dad.
want to echo Vodkamike's comments that Carlos and all the bikemonkey crew put on a terrific event. I had a lot of fun (& suffering ) just hanging out with a very friendly group of folks.
The Thanks List...
Ryan (RAS) for graciously sharing his camping area. It was great to meet you and hopefully we can get that group ride together we chatted about at Annadel. Have never been and would love to ride there one of these days.
Nick - thanks for the ol Delirium Tremens...haven't had a chance to knock it back yet but I know I will enjoy it. We will have to make this beer trade thing a tradition
jms - Thanks so much for "renting" me that small spot on course for my cooler. Definitely helped with making the bottle swapping exercise a bit quicker. BTW - thx to your "support crew" for those tasty post event snacks....man those were good!!
mtbr crew - those cow bells and words of encouragement each lap were HUGE...especially when you start to get to laps 6 on when you are feeling the HURT!!
and finally just to all the cool folks I chatted with as we all suffered for 8 hrs.
- I wanted to churn out a minimum of 7 laps, but my trusty Soulcraft 29er helped me push out the extra lap for a total of 8. Fortunately no mechanicals and those Racing ralphs with the paper thin sidewalls survived those sharp rocks that seemed to be all over the place.
Solo Sport - 5th place
8 tough laps
can't wait till next year to do it again!!
What a great race. Zon and I made the trek up on Friday night with my popup so that we could avoid the 4am departure the day of the race. Upon arrival we made our way over to the Team Madcat camping area and said hello to Mike and a few others. We were excited to see the campfire blazing and people mingling around. We quickly got to setting up the triailer and unpacking. Around 25 minutes later we finished setting up with hopes of sitting around the fire to get warm before calling it a night. As we came around the trailer the campsite was a ghost town and the fire was nearly out. DRAT!! So we headed off toward the registration so that we could unwind from the 3 hour drive. After waking up to super cold temps, we sauntered off to eat breakfast and prepare for the upcoming sufferfest. The race started out uneventful for me sitting in somewhere around midpack and keeping my tempo slow and steady. I chatted with a few familiar on the first and second lap. I ran into Morgan Fletcher on my third and we chatted up through the feedzone regarding the 29inch format and if it would work for him. Hopefully i made some valid points. That was the last i saw of him as he jetted off. On the fouthish lap i ran into VodkaMike and we discussed what song we had stuck in our head. I am sooo happy he helped me change from a song that is on my daughters play mirror and light thing to the A-Team theme song that carried through my 5th lap which was my hardest as i became absolutely starving and lightheaded. I took a longer pit after 5 and had 2 pickles, a redbull, half a coke and a turkey cheese sandwich with tons of mustard, chips and took poptarts with me for the next lap. I knew that i had to choke down some real food in order to make a push for my 7th and hopefully 8th lap. My 6th lap was a little slow, but i was digesting. One of my teammates told me upon completion of my 6th lap that I had 2 hours for the final two laps. I was thinking "oh crap" how am i going to turn two sub one hour laps at this point in time. I pushed the pace on 7 and was informed that i had 62 minutes for my 8th and final lap. I pushed as hard as i could and finished up my 8th lap at 5:10pm. I finished 7th in the Sport solo cat. I was very happy and doubled the mileage from last years cramp fest. Pickles, mustard and endurolytes kept cramps at bay as i didnt even have a twitch all day long. Thanks to my Madcat teammates and the MTBR crew for cheering me on, also thanks to Zon for coming into the pits each lap as i was leaving so I could keep pushing pace so that you wouldnt catch me.
That's very impressive improvement. By doubling Juanzelli's Motion Based data for 3 laps, that means Sarah went:
Originally Posted by The Law
52 Miles, 10,400' climb
And in a mere 8 hours? Great Job
Last edited by BigLarry; 04-06-2008 at 12:19 PM.
It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.
thanks for the draft
i was wearing the red t-shirt, i should of finished the last lap with you, but i felt like i was bonking so hard that i was going to crash and really hurt myself. good race. ill be back with a vengence next year. [COLOR=][/color]
Originally Posted by vodkamike3
Our stats were 55 miles and ~7200 feet of climbing from The Law's VDO computer. I have lost all respect for Motion Base when it comes to altitude gain. It always reads 25-50% higher than what is real.
Originally Posted by BigLarry
Plus my body tells me it wasn't steep enough to reach 10,000 feet. It wasn't as painful as a 30 mile Coe ride IMO.
Sarah did do a friggin amazing job. She was so determined. Very impressive.
I don't know where I finished (the computer screen with the results was off by the time I checked it), but looking at what you guys have written I think I finished between Darth Tracer and Vodkamike3. So it looks like around 8th place in solo sport. Finish time 5:15 with 8 laps. Do you guys know how many riders were in the sport solo category?
I pulled over to let a faster group pass before the little root section and I noticed a Mad Cat rider with a rider number close to mine, but I was fading and I could never catch him (I'm think it was Darthtracer). Oh well!
I meet at couple of you out there. Chum on lap 3 or 4 and Vodkamike3on the last lap and at dinner.
I had lots of fun am looking foward to the event last year. See you at Cool next month!
The Real Climb?
If I just look at the bigger (>50') valley-to-peak climbs on the profile and add them up by hand, I only get around 1100' of climb on the loop. But 1700' of climb from Motion Based is a big difference - more than 50% increase. Obviously, this needs emergency analysis!
Originally Posted by Juanzelli
So I just spent some time with your data. I downloaded your GPX file and looked it over for any issues.
1. You have a barometric altimeter that eliminates altitude noise? Check
2. You didn't use MB Gravity? Check
3. You turned off the automatic barometric calibration? Probably. I see a small altitude jump (indicative of calibration) at 17.25 miles. That could have been reception glitch as well. The overall slow and uniform 30' increase in altitude over 4 hours is a very typical air pressure drift with auto calibration turned off.
In all, everything in the data and MB analysis looks fine. So what's up?
Here's what I figure. The ride is almost level (by Henry Coe standards). And over the course of 8+ miles, there appears to be about 40+ little 10' to 20' hills that add up to more elevation gain. (Note 40x15'=600') Most of the little hills are on the level or downhill and not very noticeable with roller coaster momentum carrying you up. So effectively, the ride might only require the effort of more like say 1300' or 1400' of climb rather than 1700', but you are indeed gaining 1700' per loop.
On many other steeper places I ride, these accumulated bumps add a relatively small percentage, maybe 20% or less. But with the flatter ride over longer ride distance at Boggs, the small hills add up to a major amount of bonus footies. Enjoy them!
PS. If anyone else has data, please post a link. I'd like to get some data verification from others.
It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.
You say MB reads 25-40% higher than real. But then what is real? I've calibrated several methods using know elevations on uniform climbs. Motion Based is by the most accurate, better than 1%.
Originally Posted by dan51
It's just that on flatter rolling hills like Boggs, the right methods and accuracy for climb becomes much harder to determine and even subjective. I didn't calibrate MB for flat rolling hills for that reason.
For example, I have a Cateye bike computer/altimeter with only 5' resolution. So on lots of little 10' or smaller hills, it can lose more than half the actual climb. On hills under 5' it can lose all climb, or record all climb if it's at the 5' resolution threshold. But then small hills are a little easier too. So maybe losing a lot of climb under 5' is indeed more indicative of effort. The Garmin barometric altimeters resolve to 1' and will measure 10' hill gains accurately, but they start significantly loosing any gain under 2', which is about rock or bump size. To me a 5' hill is indeed a climb, and 1-2' is a bump. So I think the higher resolution altimeter is about right.
Incidentally, the higher resolution altimeter is on Garmin's GPS barometers, and has nothing to do with Motion Based that just adds up the gains. I find I can get the same climb number as MB adding up the gains in the track altitude in a spread sheet.
Also, standing still, I often see about ~2' of altitude noise from pressure fluctuations. It doesn't add much at all on steep ups and downs. But it might add a small amount of truly artificial climb on a long flat ride. But I see little of that low noise error in this data.
In any case, I think we have answers as to what's going on, pick which number you like based on what you think is a hill. However, I agree from the data that a Boggs 10,000' climb won't feel like a Henry Coe 10,000' climb. I'd say there's about a 1.5X Henry Coe factor involved.
It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.
Great meeting you as well Mark and congrats on busting out 8 big ones! Is it wrong that I'm sore today from my meager 3 laps? Stay in touch regarding your availability to hit Annadel.
Originally Posted by MSH
The course was sweet and overall the event was a lot of fun. I do have a question for those more familiar with racing. Is it typical that all the solo's (including beginners) start before the teams? They started the groups every 2 mins or so, but this course has a short bit of fire road that quickly gets into single track. A lot of the strong team riders caught us solo beginners quick and some were clearly frustrated (a couple were d$cks about it, but there's one in every group right ) with having been started behind us. I can't say I blame them since they were clearly looking to take a faster pace and I did my best to allow for easy passes all day. So I was just curious if this is the way that it's done in similar race formats?
teams starting after solo
I, too, thought it was really strange that the solo riders started before the teams. Anyone riding only one lap would start out a lot faster than someone doing 8 hours alone. I would hope that the organization changes this next year and lets the teams start first or maybe right after or with the pros and experts.
Originally Posted by RAS
Also known as Menso's dad.
Bad Jenny & I did the coed division on singlespeeds. I'd never done an event like this, but Jen had done this event the 1st year when it snowed. Since she was the expert, she lead off with the 1st two laps, then I did two, then she did two, then I did two... and she got to bat clean-up and do a final lap since we had time. Her 5th lap was her fastest lap of the day!
We bagged 9 laps and missed 3rd place by 44 lousy seconds... no thanks to the 5 minute flat tire repair I had at the end of lap 7. It was fun exchanging leads with the team (Julie & Pauly) that edged us.. a nice couple that also rode SS. I think all the other couples were on geared.
It was a great day for riding Boggs, and I was completely impressed by the organizers and all the competitors, especially you solo nuts. 4 laps was enough for me. Great job Darth, Zon, MTB_Canuck, Graah, Asa, George, MadCatMike (and all the friendly Mad Cat riders)! I hope the one Mad Cat guy is okay... might have broken/damaged a vertabrae in his neck
We took a few photos...
The start of our group:
BadJenny begins a long, fun day:
BadJenny finishing lap 1, smiling:
Me coming in on my 1st lap... following VodkaMike?:
I think I only saw 1 other rigid SS all day:
Off for lap 2 (4th team lap):
BadJenny finishing her 5th lap (9th team lap) with a smile:
My instructions were to have a beer ready
Our group results:
Good job, bike... you can rest now:
One additional data point regarding total climbing..
- my Polar S725 shows 9300 ft and 72 miles for the 8 laps I did
- preride the day before for 1 lap showed exactly as stated on Boggs site - 1200 ft..... http://www.bikemonkey.net/oldsite/in...II&page=course
- when we did 10K day at Demo a couple weeks ago my Polar was showing slightly higher at the end than jeffh's Polar 305 - i think there was approx a 500 ft difference
There were 32 in Sport Solo class. I know that i passed Vodkamike, but what were you wearing? I was told that i passed 2 on my final lap but only remembered VM because he and I chatted earlier in the day.. I was on the Mamasita.
Originally Posted by 39n, 121w
Jealous reading all these ride reports, everyone did a great job!
It was good. I did nine laps, just got my 9th in with 5 minutes to spare. First two were too fast, I kinda dawdled for four and tried to get my strength back and my back to stop hurting, then went hard for the last two. Got 5th in solo 40+, don't know how many in my field. I felt good about 9 laps, was only going for 8. Good to see / meet you all. Here's what my garmin had to say:
It's auto-lap feature failed to fire on lap 6, which was a pair of 58-minute laps that got glued together.
Total Time (h:m:s) 8:22:17 6:24 pace
Moving Time (h:m:s) 8:16:04 6:19 pace
Distance (mi ) 78.39
Moving Speed (mph) 9.5 avg. 34.3 max.
Elevation Gain (ft) +13,011 / -12,967
Big thanks to my friend Steve for helping me at my pit. Recipe advice: boiled small yellow potatoes with olive oil, rosemary and salt in ziploc bags was the perfect food. Also used Succeed Amino & Clip2 drink mixes, worked well for me as they did at last year's Cool race.
Maybe someone else can tell the teacup story. See you at Napa Valley Dirt Classic or Cool.
My main goal was to finish 6 laps in less time and not be in as much pain as I was after 6 laps last year. Finished seven laps with 54 minutes left for an 8th lap. Instead of opting for a practice lap, I went for a beer. Back was aching, but thanks to Advil, I survived. Finished the seventh lap pretty much as a casual loop, hanging with SJensen and his DH bike the whole way. I think both of us could have done it faster, but it was great to just chill knowing we had close to 2 hours to do it in. Great seeing everyone out there and the vibe of the whole event was A+!!
Greate job to Carlos and everyone else involved! Can't wait until next year.
I raced on a 3-man team with jrm and pimpbot.
jrm, pimpbot and rensho.
pimpbot, ready for his first lap.
We were out there to have fun and to break no other records than our own. Unfortunately, having never raced Boggs before, I had to set a president before I could break any personal records.
At Cool a few weeks ago, I nursed the last 3 miles of my second lap with a slowly leaking front tire which probably hurt me for a few minutes of lap time. Based on some of the claims of "rock garden sections" at boggs, I converted my Jericho Leadfoot over to Stan's using the rimstrips, juice and Hutchinson Spider UST tires last week. I only got to ride a couple of miles before the race to try it out but I felt confident that the conversion had been a success.
It was downright cold as we lined up for the first lap. I lined up in group 5 - 3-man and 3-person Co-ed and we started 7 minutes after the lead group. Unfortunately, what that meant for me was once the start buzzer blew, I was forced into a congo line right after the first fireroad climb.
It was really hard to ride that slow for that long knowing that this was a race. I took every opportunity of a wide spot in the trail to call out and pass, sometimes 3 and 4 riders at a time. I passed people I knew from 2-man teams and eventually even overtaking solos who had started 7 minutes before me.
By the time I hit the long section of fireroad climb, I had easily passed 50 - 60 people. Some were slower and many had mechanicals, flats or the like. The trail was very dusty and slippery in placed with deep pine needles over dust. My Spiders gripped very well and I never once worried about pinch flatting so gave it everything I had, 1 lap at a time.
Erich and John making the transition.
In all, we racked up 8 laps - 2 for John, 3 each for Erich and myself and IIRC, John said we came in 16th out of 24 teams. Not bad for being the untrained athletes that we are.
My Garmin read 8.55-8.7 miles per lap (3 laps of slightly varying distance) but all read in the area of less than 1400' per lap. My legs said that this was a more accurate number.
After uploading to Motion Based, My first 2 laps read pretty similar but the last lap had reception errors. My top speeds during the laps read about 30mph according to my Garmin but got perverted to 42mph and 50mph by Motion Based. I can almost believe 42 but no way did I ever hit 50.
Lap 1: I think I forgot to turn off the unit until I hit the MTBR pit a couple of minutes later - about 100 yards from the start/finish.
<table class="data_table" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_row"><td colspan="3" class="data_header" nowrap="nowrap">Summary Data</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Total Time (h:m:s)</td><td class="data">1:00:09</td><td class="data">6:55 pace</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Moving Time (h:m:s)</td><td class="data">0:56:32</td><td class="data">6:30 pace</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Distance (mi )</td><td colspan="2" class="data">8.68</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Moving Speed (mph)</td><td class="data">9.2 avg.</td><td class="data">42.9 max.</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Elevation Gain (ft)</td><td colspan="2" class="data">+1,350 / -1,350</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" bgcolor="#cccccc" height="1">
</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Temperature (°F)</td><td class="data">49.4°F avg.</td><td class="data">53.6°F high</td></tr><tr class="rowhover" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Wind Speed ( mph)</td><td class="data">ENE 2.7 avg.</td><td class="data">ENE 4.6 max.</td></tr></tbody></table>
Lap 2: This time I remembered to turn it off immediately after making the tag.
<table class="data_table" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="data_row"><td colspan="3" class="data_header" nowrap="nowrap">Summary Data</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Total Time (h:m:s)</td><td class="data">0:54:42</td><td class="data">6:18 pace</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Moving Time (h:m:s)</td><td class="data">0:54:42</td><td class="data">6:18 pace</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Distance (mi )</td><td colspan="2" class="data">8.66</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Moving Speed (mph)</td><td class="data">9.5 avg.</td><td class="data">50.9 max.</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Elevation Gain (ft)</td><td colspan="2" class="data">+1,258 / -1,263</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" bgcolor="#cccccc" height="1">
</td></tr><tr class="" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Temperature (°F)</td><td class="data">60.8°F avg.</td><td class="data">64.4°F high</td></tr><tr class="rowhover" onmouseout="this.className=''" onmouseover="this.className='rowhover'"><td class="data_var1">Wind Speed ( mph)</td><td class="data">SSE 8.1 avg.</td><td class="data">SSE 10.4 max.</td></tr></tbody></table>
Between each lap, I cleaned and lubed my chain, checked my tire pressure which remained fairly constant at about 28psi. My Leadfoot and its drivetrain performed almost flawlessly except once dropping the chain off of the inside of the little ring and once off the outside of the big ring, which I was able to recover from without stopping.
I fueled during each lap with a single Clif shot pack and only water from a CamelBak. Between each lap, I ate a banana, SportLegs, half of a breakfast burrito, Cytomax, some junk that was laying around the pit area, lots of water and some Clif Shots and Blocks.
I didn't cramp at all and I didn't feel any lactic burn unti lthe middle of the 3rd lap, which dissipated soon after. Mostly, I attribute this to the SportLegs and Cytomax. The powder Cytomax seems to work better than powder Gatorade but causes me some serious digestive issues.
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Plim gets ready. He's so fast that even when he's not moving he blurs the space around him.
Rensho and 8Trak. Uncle MTB in background.
Ethan and Jenny.
Mountainbikermom awaiting her coed teammate/son for the tag.
Daryl in the transition area.
Ethan, Jenny and Paul.
plim, jeffh and 8Trak at the MTBR pit.
chum, plim and jeffh between laps.
Bernard came out to cheer on 7hvn.
menso and JL
Justine and Carmen
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Morgan on his 18th or 19th lap...I lost count.
Hmmm... I'm really sure I didn't do any hills twice per lap. I wonder why my Edge 305 is so far off?
Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul.
Good times, plenty of suffering
after lap one, really wasn't sure racing wasn't my brightest decision. Kids gave me a nasty head/chest cold earlier in the week and I was still deep into it.
Had a goal of nine laps and managed to reach that, so I'm a very happy camper.
Classic moments were Sully (Sean Sullivan) and I riding along on the ST exchanging hacking spasms each lap. Are mantra for the day was "Lots of High's and Low's man, just keep pedaling" Sully if you check in here, I really hope you're feeling better.
Good seeing Fritz, meeting Carlos in person for the first time, seeing Yuri, Dez, Cameron and many others like...
Nice meeting Brad out there too, he was stomping it good! Nice job man. You're gonna rail at the Coolest this year. See you at the PCRS or the Coolest.
Sean Allen thanks for the shower and helping me get my crap back to my camp.
And thanks for the ride Jimmyboy!
Happy new year..Stuff $: Eno 29wheel (non disc), Yakima, 2 steelheads, with towers for Volvo luggage rails.
thanks so much for the support from everyone. its was great seeing people....as i was pedaling by each lap or after the race when i couldn't even put together full sentences or remember names- including my own.
roger, good to see you and thanks for the encouragement on lap 6 when i was cramping. kevin, sorry the girls at the pit weren't giving massages. nick, why were you going the wrong way when i saw you, and how the f did your girlie do 7 laps on her singlespeed?! amazing. rensho- wish you'd have been out there. raphael, nice job man. jms- nice to meet you in person. i'll try to someday come down and ride with you.
i'm tired today and sore- especially upper body from pushing the bars around. i stayed up there last night and we did a short ride today- i had nothing. the good part- i am still eating. i love eating.
What a great time !
How about that 32 degree wake up call in the camp ground Saturday morning.
The race stated well enough, we hit a lot of traffic in the first few single track sections and I just kept telling myself this is an all day race, no crazy passes on the first lap and just try and keep the heart rate down.
JL and I passed each other two or three times in the first two laps, I was hearing a little noise from the rear wheel that I mentioned to rensho on the second pit stop he check all the spokes on the rear wheel and said it all looked good and off I went.
When I came in for the third lap stop rensho was there with a spoke wrench and did a 1 minute tension job on the rear wheel and off I went, the noise was gone ! Thanks rensho
The middle of my 4th lap was about the time my lower back started to tightening up on me. When I came in for the stop, I took 3 Advil and had a little to eat and rested for 3-4 min and headed back out.
The 5th lap was just misery in my lower back I was feeling good other wise, no cramps, but it was hard to put the power down with my back so tight. After three back Surgery's and 4 fused disc, when my back says to slow down, I listen.
With such a well stocked mtbr pit, it was an easy decision to man the pit now, besides Plim looked so comfortable in the lounge chair with a beer.
I guess the main thing I learned from my first endurance race was the amount of pounding I was taking on a hardtail after 5 hours of continuous racing. Boggs is a super course and I know I will be back for some more fun.
Last edited by jeffh; 04-06-2008 at 09:30 PM.
Hey, be sure to PM me...
andwe canget you up here for a ride in Auburn.
Again, nice job, congrats!
Happy new year..Stuff $: Eno 29wheel (non disc), Yakima, 2 steelheads, with towers for Volvo luggage rails.
Nice job Diggler, Roger, Sarah, Sunshine, Morgan and ever single person out there.
It sounds like I knew 10 out of 9 people out there. It sucks that I missed it. But hey, when the nuns at church saw me, I knew the skies would have struck me dead if I missed my kid's event.
And hey, my wife is full on riding now. Got something done this weekend at least.
Last edited by fc; 04-06-2008 at 08:31 PM.
IPA will save America
Originally Posted by grrrah
good riding with you. cranked out 7, finished the last with raf, only bc those b$@*$@) at the MTBR booth (Rensho and crew) wouldn't let me sit down any longer. Thanks BTW, the last one was fun, and agonizing...
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
What's to say chum isn't sunrise' girlie?
Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
What a fun way to spend time with Friends!! MunchkinSS was my team mate for the 2 person female class. I got to pre-ride the course on Friday with a bunch of friends so I had an idea of what to expect. Good thing I did, it made it easier to sleep on Friday night, so it was only the cold keeping me awake.
I started the race as agreed, because I could start in the back of the pack with my buddy Sarah. We were off and Sarah went ahead of me on the first down hill section. I hooked up with another lady I think her name was Yvette and we had a good first lap. We stayed together on the climbs and she would get a little ahead of me on the down hills. We had a good lap and however we got lapped by some of the really fast guys coming off the 2nd to last fire road section. They were yelling at us so I just went straight to get out of their way. I saw Menso right on their tails, he may have been in third place at that time, he was flying. When I got to 2.the transition area MunchkinSS was there waiting for me to come in. I tagged her and wished her a good lap. She raced it solo last year so she knew what to expect.
I had about an hour to wait for my 2nd lap to begin. I was waiting in the transition area and she came in and I was off on my lap. I knew from the start that this lap I was going to get passed a lot more than on the first lap, so I tried to mentally prepare for that, because there were some riders that were not as forgiving to me for being slow, but most were and I tried to move over and stop or give them room to pass when I could. But I didn't expect to come upon the lady and her son walking 2 dogs off leash, one that could not hear and was standing in the middle of the single track trail where I had to stop so they could go get it and the German Shepard running up the trail at me!! All in all the lap went OK and I didn't crash or cause anyone to crash so I thought it was a success. I didn't feel that tired but I decided that was my last lap cause I am more used to racing against beginners and not the really fast guys. When I got to the transition I saw MunchkinSS off and told her I was probably not going out for a third lap, she said no problem.
I saw MunchkinSS come in after her 2nd lap and saw her off on her 3rd lap. She was doing great!!
I changed my cloths and grabbed my COW BELL and got to work cheering on the racers. I also got a few pictures of my buddies finishing.
4. The Law
fresh fish in stock......
Because i geared too high and had a couple angry-hamstring-chewing-badgers gnawing at my legs thank you very much.....ugh
Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
she rawks like the proverbial hurricane...not kidding...she is a natural bona fide ShEvil SingleSpeedstress....through and through....pulled the 7 laps full on rigid SS...and finished with a smile...
Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
oh...you are soooo right.......just killed a Belgium waffle, 3 sausages, 2 bacon, OJ, coffee, log-o-salami, 4 different kinds of cheeses, 3 beers and now have a pizza coming......and ice cream......this is why i love endurance racing......
Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
now...my race report....geared-up on my full rigid SS from 32X18 (last year) to 34X18 this year....i got stronger.....i can go faster.....pfft!......first 3 laps all is good....hammering out an 8 lap day......then the invisible-rabid-leg-badgers show up on lap 4 in full-on angry muscle knotting force...no bueno.... did 7 painful laps.....
started lap 5...got about 300 yards and had a "moment".....i really, really...hate it when my body attacks me.....time to turn tail and roll shamefully back to the pits...had to rest....15 or so minutes....banana, gels, gatorade, sportslegs...i stretch....it's 2:30 or so....no way i can grab 8....but i can pull off a mellow 7 (though..it didn't seem mellow).
Pocket (Sarah) completing a SOLID 6 laps....WOW!!!!....thoroughly impressed...
Ran into Tom (?).....Blind Solo mountain biker railing it up some techy singletrack with his guide.....had a short chat....really COOL dude ......weird he thought i was nutty for riding SS........the guy is a bad ass
and of course my lady.....racking off 7 laps on a her rigid 29er SS......whoa......everyone should be envious.....
Best Race Ever!!!
I was in no physical or mental state to compete this year. But I had signed up and wanted to feel the vibe and see all my mountain biking friends, so I made the trip to Cobb. It was my most enjoyable race ever.
In the early morning Saturday darkness Morgan drove up to our carpool meeting place in a grumpy aggro mood. A mood not helped by the fact that after getting in his car and starting to drive, he realized he'd left his glass mug of hot tea on his bumper. "Damn," he thought, "Now there'll be a bunch of broken glass on my street. And I get no tea." Yet when he parked by us his tea had somehow survived the trip along winding hilly roads and freeway. There it was, just sitting on the bumper. It was a good omen for him, as his mood improved and he completely kicked ass with his nine laps.
After a quick drive North, we arrived at Boggs. We got there a little after eight, so we all hustled to register, set up our pit area, and get ready to ride. In what seemed like an instant, it was time for people to line up at the starting line.
I didn't line up though. As the race began, I was settled into my chair with my feet up to watch everyone charge up the trail. I cheered each group as they whizzed by my vantage point. Five or ten minutes after the last group started, I got out of my jeans and onto the bike.
JustJeff had delayed his start as well and we talked as we started up the first climb. There was nothing but clear trail in front of me as I got to blast down the first singletrack descent. Some race courses are dull, but the Boggs route is a fun ride no matter what the situation. I rode three relaxed laps and enjoyed every minute.
Then I stopped, changed, cracked open a beer and cheered on everyone else. It was especially fun to see an exhausted rider come in and try to convince them they needed to head out for one more lap, that they could make it if they pushed themselves.
My plan worked. If I'd started with my group I know the competitive juices would have kicked in. By delaying my start, I was able to relax and have a really enjoyable day. Just what the doctor ordered.
So thanks to all who were out there. I couldn't have asked for a better time. And if I tried to list all the people who impressed the hell out of me with their accomplishments, I'd be typing forever. You all know you rock.
This is no time for levity. - Oliver Hardy
Team Bionic Pickle
Another Solo Sport Men
Wow - this was a fantastic race! Beautiful day, perfect trails, and great friendly competition. And I'm pretty psyched about getting 3rd place. Thanks everyone, and see ya at the Coolest 24...
Originally Posted by crawdad
Nice bike, great job! I was the MaCat guy on the same bike. I ended up 7th with 8 laps.
This was my second endurance race on the SS full rigid niner. The first was 12 hrs of Humboldt and i have to say i was in more pain in this 8 hours @ Boggs. Mostly from not choosing a bigger gear on the rear.
The 32-20 was hard for me. I thought about changing gears after lap 4 but I knew with my lap times i would not make my goal of 8 laps, so i just hung it out and ended up getting 8 laps.
And i never walked. But if the wind blew any harder i would have fallen over.
I think I was 5th in the sport SS class. Maybe i would podium if they had age categories for SS sport. Or maybe it would be worse seems like the Master's just keep getting better. ( ask JMS)
Dose Bike Monkey post the times on a web site?
Want to say thanks to Rensho for the support. When your hurting and someone gives a word of engorgement when you ride by it feels great!
Jeff I knew something was up with you when i saw you on the climb . Hope your back feels better.
Chum it was great to meet you and thanks for telling me my form looked good on the 7th lap , because i was thinking a hole other thought.
I wanted to meet more of you who were from MTBR but i was just to tried. When i rode by i heard all of you thanks! I said hi to a few others with the MTBR jerseys on the course but i was to tried to remember your names. I was riding the orange niner & full face helmet.
Thanks John S. for sharing your spot with me and having pizza & a beer with me, I always enjoy talking with you & Bridget.
HERE IS A TIP FOR YOU WHO FROZE ON COBB MT.
After the race I met my girl friend at Harbin Hot springs 25 minutes away and soaked in the hot springs with all the naked people and spent the night, Harbin has camping there. I didn't see any cyclists there from the race. I wondered why so many people stayed up at Cobb Mt. and froze their butts off and didn't camp at Harbin and soak in the Hot Springs
3 pools at 90- 110 -115 degrees? Woke up in the morning at soaked until noon.
Had a great time.
Thanks for the info Darth. 32 riders in sport - Wow! I did better than I thought.
Originally Posted by darth tracer
Yep, that was me that you passed. I was only a couple minutes ahead of vodkamike when you passed me. Vodka and I talked for a while right before the jump and I mentioned to him that we only had 38minutes before the final bell.
I was wearing a Victory Velo jersey and riding a red Turner. On lap 5 I followed you and Kyle another Mad Catter (I believe that was his name). Kyle and I rode the entire lap together as you pulled ahead.
I've ridden with you at Prarie City before, so I'll look for you out there.
Good job on doubling your lap total from last year!
Bobby McMullen! That guy is my hero.
Originally Posted by CHUM
Good job Chum and Felicia. You are both hard core and nice people.
Team Bionic Pickle
Yeah, I remember you. Nice job on 7th! Well, let me see - 3rd and 7th - our success surely couldn't be attributed to anything other than that we were both riding Mamasitas.
I sure had a nice weekend of racing. Carlos and crew put on a great event. The entry transfer to Scotty Jensen went without a hitch. The organizers were totally cool about it and didn't even flinch. Thanks guys.
I kept busy watching lap times, mix bottles, dole out meds, Gu blocks, fill Gu bottles. My buddy Kent showed up and we rode out on the course to scout out places for him to take pics. Later we did a lap just to view the course. I got to play in some of the ST downhills, while staying out of the way of any racers.
Pocket(Sarah) did a great job sticking to her plan; ride 1:20 laps until the clock runs out. My job was to not mess with the plan.
Here's a picture of me leading out one of the Team MadCats riders. I love singletrack.
Kent passed along some shots:
YuriB: Notice he is skidding out of control and sideways...someone should teach him how to ride. All I noticed when I met him was the 08 SID fork!
Looks more like Shezo (I probably spelled it totally wrong) ...
Originally Posted by rensho
This dog is quite as fast as its owner ;-)
I had a fun time too, lots of known faces and a very nice hanging out with all the guys. I stayed from Friday to Sunday and almost froze my butt off the first night. But after the starting the race the adrenaline kept me warm.
nice job everyone! looks like you all had a great time!
Some shots from my beercam.
Shiloh lap 1
Shiloh lap 2
Dan51 rode lap 2 entirely on the back wheel
Finishing lap 2 also on the back wheel, but 2 minutes slower than Dan51
From afar, I thought it was Luke's father...
----But it turned out to be Mark59.
Gogo Girls team handoff
DirtDiggler looking super strong to start lap 3
Menso was leading the ENTIRE field to start lap 3
Jeremy on a non pink bike, and with gears!
JMS was all good, and looking like a rock every lap
CHUM killing it every lap, full rigid to boot!
Plim says, "Plan is complete, 3 laps, it's Miller Time!"
----Hey Plim, Darthmouth called, they want their sponsor jersey back.
JustJeff showing good form, sighting through the turn
Last edited by rensho; 04-06-2008 at 10:17 PM.
Mountain bike racing...it's wild, it's intense! Climb climb climb, zoom zoom zoom ,climb climb zoom zoom,climb zoom climb zoom....Around and around...7 or 8 hours of it! Yeah!
I did 6 laps and had time for a 7th, but didn't. I kind of regret that now.
Great race, great course, great production...great vibe: Lots of cool people, music, beer, food, and friendly dogs walking about.
And great MTBR.com friends! Your: ** cow bells**Go Rob!**cow bells** Go Rob! Go!! **cow bells** inspired me.
Last edited by Zignzag; 04-07-2008 at 06:38 AM.
Tequila is a pallid flame that passes through walls and soars over tile roofs to allay despair. A. Mutis
This was my first race ever. It was great! I knew I wanted to ride the entire 8 hours. I was expecting/hoping to do 5 laps. The 6th lap was just bonus. I couldn't have done any of it, though, without Rensho. He helped me train for the race. He fine-tuned my bike and put on racing tires (racing ralph in front and nano raptor in the rear). He had me in and out of pit stops in less than a minute with everything I needed. He rode part of the 4th lap with me and coached me on my riding technique. Then at the end of the day he went out with me on a 6th lap that I had just enough time to finish. He was pacing me, encouraging me, handing me an accelerade bottle and goo flask at appropriate intervals, and he got me to the finish with time to spare. It was my 2nd fastest lap of the day. Race support extraordinaire! Thanks, honey.
And thanks to everyone for all of the encouragement and compliments. I had so much fun just being out there. MunchkinSS, thanks for letting Carmen (ibikergal) start the race with me. It's nice to have a good friend close by in such a big crowd. Justjeff, thanks for coaching me through some of the technical singletrack. I almost cleaned it! Kent, thanks for being there to take pictures. It was so great to see you again!
And a special thanks to all the racers who had such encouraging words as they flew by me and who passed me on the singletrack with such skill and ease that I never once felt at risk. Especially JMS, who not only offered encouragement, but rode alongside me and gave me a push up the hill. Thanks everyone for a great race!
that was fun. my body regrets it though.
thanks much to 'los and bike monkey for a great event. it was a fun course, cool scene. my altimeter said 1080 feet of climbing per lap.
thanks for all those that kindly cheered for me throughout the course (of offered sympathy) by yelling some form of "Go cyclocrosser!" while I was doing laps on the cyclocross bike.
after getting in after dark, we camped right near registration which ended up being a lucky location.
raced with 2-man with fellow Cyclocross Magazine lackey Steve Ransom. came with only intentions to have fun, having been off the bike for a couple weeks and all fitness long gone since 'cross season ended. Steve kindly started the race and dealt with traffic with his fresh road race skills on his new 29er. we ended up doing 9 laps to finish something like 16th of 34 teams.
I did the first lap on an old 29er with a crappy fork, second and third laps on my 'cross bike with a 39x28 low gear, and then finished with two back-to-back laps on the 29er because my legs would not have survived 2 more laps on the 'cross bike. I enjoyed 4.5 of my 5 laps. Rode a bit with Morgan Fletcher who was finishing his race in the SOLO category, but that didn't last long, because just like in 'cross, he quickly dropped me, as we were both racing to finish by the 5:30 cutoff. I finished with 4 minutes to spare. Phew. Every part of my leg was on the verge of cramping by the end. I guess riding once a week the first 3 weeks in March and then going on vacation isn't very good prep, even if I was a pansy and on a 2-man team.
the cross bike laps were an interesting experiment, possibly to be featured in a future issue of Cyclocross Magazine. I figured it'd be a lot slower. Obviously much depends on the course, and while there weren't super steep long climbs, there was a decent amount of climbing and a whole bunch of random sharp rocks on much of the trail, especially the descents. To my surprise, my fastest lap by about a minute was on my 'cross bike, and probably my second fastest lap would have been if I hadn't gone off course. but it definitely hurt the legs more. i had no choice but to mash up the climbs, and that proved quite fast, fun, but painful, but it took some of the fun out of the descents as I had to pay more attention to my lines. I had intended to bring the singlespeed and the 26er too to complicate this highly-unscientific experiment but got lazy.
I think our lap times were about:
55 steve - start, traffic
51 me 29er
50 me cx bike
63 steve - crash
54 me cx bike - went off course, lost a few minutes
56 me 29er - crash
59 me 29er - fried
next year, maybe carlos will add a cyclocross category and we can get more nutso folks to ride the skinny tires. 5 cross races in a day? i bet joe miller would do it.
see you next year.