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    Boggs III Aftermath

    I think a few folks are still trickling home but wanted to get a thread started. Pics? Memories? Share here.

    I'll start:
    Was my first endurance race and it was fun. It is really great to have such a fantastic cheering section every time you come around to the start line. The MTBR crew, complete with cowbells and every snack imaginable, was a great energy boost. The course was a lot of fun too. By the third lap, those sweet downhill sections were becoming memorized meaning I could go a lot faster.

    I also have to say that the very best part of the race was the fact that Sarah did 6 laps. Even though she didn't take any medals home, she, by far, was the clear winner. She established goals, trained for them, and set out to achieve them with determination. And she succeeded. I know Sarah's drive kept me going and was an inspiration.
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    I raced solo sport men (Dirt rag wool jersey, baby blue kish) and dear god I felt some pain. I managed to crash on the first mile due to those damn pine needles. My goal was 7 laps, but when I finished my 7th and heard the announcer's yell 'Do one more' (someone even added a 'Don't be a pu$$y'), well my manhood was challenged and I went for it. There wasn't much left in my legs at that point, so I had to push my bike up every hill. Ended up dizzy, disoriented, and in a with the hiccups for the next four hours.

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    74 miles (seemed like more)
    8:05:00 on the bike
    6 bottles of water / 8 electrolyte drinks / 5 cliffbars / two full flasks of hammer gel / 1 beer

    Thanks to all who I talked to on the trail, props to the Madcat guys, and Carlos and all of Bikemonkey for a great event.

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    Along with being way out-of-shape and sick with this cold bug going around, I only made 3 laps. However, Garmin says each lap was closer to 1700' of climbing and not 1100' like they thought... http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5322792
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    Somewhere between taking in the beautiful views of Boggs State Forest and muscle locking leg cramps, I had the opportunity to chat-and-ride with some of the fine folks of forum 67. I spotted Sarah on the course and pulled along to chat. When asked how many laps she has completed she replied "oh I dunno 5 laps, but it could be my 4th. I lost count." Inspired by her words, I continued on trying not to think about going faster or pushing harder but just enjoying the moment.

    3rd lap lowlight: I nearly ate dirt on a less than ideal take off and poor landing at Gail's jump. It was ugly from start to finish. Landed front wheel heavy, bottomed the fork, held on for dear life, and rode out without clipping out. Why wasn't someone there with a camera?!

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    That was quite a race. I managed 7 laps in 7 hours and 28 minutes. The first two laps I was chasing Jeff (H), who started out with a pretty darn fast pace (55 minute laps), but I passed him on the third lap and kept biking hard the whole race to stay ahead. Only afterwards, I found out that he had to quit after 5 laps with his back hurting. I hope you're feeling better today Jeff.
    In the fourth or fifth lap I traded places with Raphael (Grrrah) several times until he rode away from me. I had given up on seeing him again, when I saw him kindly letting faster riders pass in my seventh lap. It gave me the motivation to race a bit harder in the final lap and I finished 2 minutes ahead of him. I would have been first in the solo men beginner category, but only finished 7 out of 11 in the masters 50+ group. Those guys, such as John (jms), are fast!
    Menso did 9 laps, but will write his own race report.
    Thanks for the cheering section. It was always fun to start each lap with all the encouragement.
    We'll do it again next year. First there's the Napa Dirt Classic next week, and Sea Otter the week after.
    - J.L.
    P.S. Here are my stats:
    lap 1: 55:41 + 1:39 rest (half a powerbar and some apple slices)
    lap 2: 55:26 + 0.:52 rest (the other half of the Powerbar and a bite of a ham and cheese sandwich)
    lap 3: 56:19 + 0:37 rest (no time for a break, just grab some food and go: need to stay ahead of Jeff)
    lap 4: 1:01:34 + 5:16 rest (Menso finished his 5th lap during my rest stop and we start together on the next lap, just as Jeff finishes his fourth lap)
    lap 5: 1:04:12 + 5:01 rest (Starting to use the granny gear on the climbs. I was surprised to see Menso sitting at the rest area at the end of the lap. He needed to refuel badly. I gave him a Boost drink, which was providing me with a lot of energy too.)
    lap 6: 1:11:43 + 4:42 rest (even the downhills were slow now. Scott lubed my chain and I had one more Boost, a Hammer gel and another Powerbar. Switched from Gatorade to RockStar Pomegranate juice in the water bottle.)
    lap 7: 1:05:20 for a total time of 7:28:24. I was glad I couldn't bike a lap in less than an hour and could start the rest and recovery process, instead of doing another lap.
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    want to echo Vodkamike's comments that Carlos and all the bikemonkey crew put on a terrific event. I had a lot of fun (& suffering ) just hanging out with a very friendly group of folks.

    The Thanks List...

    Ryan (RAS) for graciously sharing his camping area. It was great to meet you and hopefully we can get that group ride together we chatted about at Annadel. Have never been and would love to ride there one of these days.

    Nick - thanks for the ol Delirium Tremens...haven't had a chance to knock it back yet but I know I will enjoy it. We will have to make this beer trade thing a tradition

    jms - Thanks so much for "renting" me that small spot on course for my cooler. Definitely helped with making the bottle swapping exercise a bit quicker. BTW - thx to your "support crew" for those tasty post event snacks....man those were good!!

    mtbr crew - those cow bells and words of encouragement each lap were HUGE...especially when you start to get to laps 6 on when you are feeling the HURT!!

    and finally just to all the cool folks I chatted with as we all suffered for 8 hrs.

    The Race...
    - I wanted to churn out a minimum of 7 laps, but my trusty Soulcraft 29er helped me push out the extra lap for a total of 8. Fortunately no mechanicals and those Racing ralphs with the paper thin sidewalls survived those sharp rocks that seemed to be all over the place.

    Anyway..final stats
    Solo Sport - 5th place
    8 tough laps

    can't wait till next year to do it again!!

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    Ouch!!

    What a great race. Zon and I made the trek up on Friday night with my popup so that we could avoid the 4am departure the day of the race. Upon arrival we made our way over to the Team Madcat camping area and said hello to Mike and a few others. We were excited to see the campfire blazing and people mingling around. We quickly got to setting up the triailer and unpacking. Around 25 minutes later we finished setting up with hopes of sitting around the fire to get warm before calling it a night. As we came around the trailer the campsite was a ghost town and the fire was nearly out. DRAT!! So we headed off toward the registration so that we could unwind from the 3 hour drive. After waking up to super cold temps, we sauntered off to eat breakfast and prepare for the upcoming sufferfest. The race started out uneventful for me sitting in somewhere around midpack and keeping my tempo slow and steady. I chatted with a few familiar on the first and second lap. I ran into Morgan Fletcher on my third and we chatted up through the feedzone regarding the 29inch format and if it would work for him. Hopefully i made some valid points. That was the last i saw of him as he jetted off. On the fouthish lap i ran into VodkaMike and we discussed what song we had stuck in our head. I am sooo happy he helped me change from a song that is on my daughters play mirror and light thing to the A-Team theme song that carried through my 5th lap which was my hardest as i became absolutely starving and lightheaded. I took a longer pit after 5 and had 2 pickles, a redbull, half a coke and a turkey cheese sandwich with tons of mustard, chips and took poptarts with me for the next lap. I knew that i had to choke down some real food in order to make a push for my 7th and hopefully 8th lap. My 6th lap was a little slow, but i was digesting. One of my teammates told me upon completion of my 6th lap that I had 2 hours for the final two laps. I was thinking "oh crap" how am i going to turn two sub one hour laps at this point in time. I pushed the pace on 7 and was informed that i had 62 minutes for my 8th and final lap. I pushed as hard as i could and finished up my 8th lap at 5:10pm. I finished 7th in the Sport solo cat. I was very happy and doubled the mileage from last years cramp fest. Pickles, mustard and endurolytes kept cramps at bay as i didnt even have a twitch all day long. Thanks to my Madcat teammates and the MTBR crew for cheering me on, also thanks to Zon for coming into the pits each lap as i was leaving so I could keep pushing pace so that you wouldnt catch me.

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    Stunning

    Quote Originally Posted by The Law
    race was the fact that Sarah did 6 laps. Even though she didn't take any medals home, she, by far, was the clear winner. She established goals, trained for them, and set out to achieve them with determination. And she succeeded. I know Sarah's drive kept me going and was an inspiration.
    That's very impressive improvement. By doubling Juanzelli's Motion Based data for 3 laps, that means Sarah went:

    52 Miles, 10,400' climb

    And in a mere 8 hours? Great Job
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    thanks for the draft

    Quote Originally Posted by vodkamike3
    I raced solo sport men (Dirt rag wool jersey, baby blue kish) and dear
    i was wearing the red t-shirt, i should of finished the last lap with you, but i felt like i was bonking so hard that i was going to crash and really hurt myself. good race. ill be back with a vengence next year. [COLOR=][/color]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    That's very impressive improvement. By doubling Juanzelli's Motion Based data for 3 laps, that means she went:

    52 Miles, 10,400' climb

    And in a mere 8 hours? Great Job
    Our stats were 55 miles and ~7200 feet of climbing from The Law's VDO computer. I have lost all respect for Motion Base when it comes to altitude gain. It always reads 25-50% higher than what is real.
    Plus my body tells me it wasn't steep enough to reach 10,000 feet. It wasn't as painful as a 30 mile Coe ride IMO.

    Sarah did do a friggin amazing job. She was so determined. Very impressive.

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    Boggs 3

    I don't know where I finished (the computer screen with the results was off by the time I checked it), but looking at what you guys have written I think I finished between Darth Tracer and Vodkamike3. So it looks like around 8th place in solo sport. Finish time 5:15 with 8 laps. Do you guys know how many riders were in the sport solo category?

    I pulled over to let a faster group pass before the little root section and I noticed a Mad Cat rider with a rider number close to mine, but I was fading and I could never catch him (I'm think it was Darthtracer). Oh well!

    I meet at couple of you out there. Chum on lap 3 or 4 and Vodkamike3on the last lap and at dinner.

    I had lots of fun am looking foward to the event last year. See you at Cool next month!

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    The Real Climb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanzelli
    Along with being way out-of-shape and sick with this cold bug going around, I only made 3 laps. However, Garmin says each lap was closer to 1700' of climbing and not 1100' like they thought... http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5322792
    If I just look at the bigger (>50') valley-to-peak climbs on the profile and add them up by hand, I only get around 1100' of climb on the loop. But 1700' of climb from Motion Based is a big difference - more than 50% increase. Obviously, this needs emergency analysis!

    So I just spent some time with your data. I downloaded your GPX file and looked it over for any issues.

    1. You have a barometric altimeter that eliminates altitude noise? Check
    2. You didn't use MB Gravity? Check
    3. You turned off the automatic barometric calibration? Probably. I see a small altitude jump (indicative of calibration) at 17.25 miles. That could have been reception glitch as well. The overall slow and uniform 30' increase in altitude over 4 hours is a very typical air pressure drift with auto calibration turned off.

    In all, everything in the data and MB analysis looks fine. So what's up?

    Here's what I figure. The ride is almost level (by Henry Coe standards). And over the course of 8+ miles, there appears to be about 40+ little 10' to 20' hills that add up to more elevation gain. (Note 40x15'=600') Most of the little hills are on the level or downhill and not very noticeable with roller coaster momentum carrying you up. So effectively, the ride might only require the effort of more like say 1300' or 1400' of climb rather than 1700', but you are indeed gaining 1700' per loop.

    On many other steeper places I ride, these accumulated bumps add a relatively small percentage, maybe 20% or less. But with the flatter ride over longer ride distance at Boggs, the small hills add up to a major amount of bonus footies. Enjoy them!

    PS. If anyone else has data, please post a link. I'd like to get some data verification from others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Our stats were 55 miles and ~7200 feet of climbing from The Law's VDO computer. I have lost all respect for Motion Base when it comes to altitude gain. It always reads 25-50% higher than what is real.
    Plus my body tells me it wasn't steep enough to reach 10,000 feet. It wasn't as painful as a 30 mile Coe ride IMO.

    Sarah did do a friggin amazing job. She was so determined. Very impressive.
    You say MB reads 25-40% higher than real. But then what is real? I've calibrated several methods using know elevations on uniform climbs. Motion Based is by the most accurate, better than 1%.

    It's just that on flatter rolling hills like Boggs, the right methods and accuracy for climb becomes much harder to determine and even subjective. I didn't calibrate MB for flat rolling hills for that reason.

    For example, I have a Cateye bike computer/altimeter with only 5' resolution. So on lots of little 10' or smaller hills, it can lose more than half the actual climb. On hills under 5' it can lose all climb, or record all climb if it's at the 5' resolution threshold. But then small hills are a little easier too. So maybe losing a lot of climb under 5' is indeed more indicative of effort. The Garmin barometric altimeters resolve to 1' and will measure 10' hill gains accurately, but they start significantly loosing any gain under 2', which is about rock or bump size. To me a 5' hill is indeed a climb, and 1-2' is a bump. So I think the higher resolution altimeter is about right.

    Incidentally, the higher resolution altimeter is on Garmin's GPS barometers, and has nothing to do with Motion Based that just adds up the gains. I find I can get the same climb number as MB adding up the gains in the track altitude in a spread sheet.

    Also, standing still, I often see about ~2' of altitude noise from pressure fluctuations. It doesn't add much at all on steep ups and downs. But it might add a small amount of truly artificial climb on a long flat ride. But I see little of that low noise error in this data.

    In any case, I think we have answers as to what's going on, pick which number you like based on what you think is a hill. However, I agree from the data that a Boggs 10,000' climb won't feel like a Henry Coe 10,000' climb. I'd say there's about a 1.5X Henry Coe factor involved.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH
    Ryan (RAS) for graciously sharing his camping area. It was great to meet you and hopefully we can get that group ride together we chatted about at Annadel. Have never been and would love to ride there one of these days.
    Great meeting you as well Mark and congrats on busting out 8 big ones! Is it wrong that I'm sore today from my meager 3 laps? Stay in touch regarding your availability to hit Annadel.

    The course was sweet and overall the event was a lot of fun. I do have a question for those more familiar with racing. Is it typical that all the solo's (including beginners) start before the teams? They started the groups every 2 mins or so, but this course has a short bit of fire road that quickly gets into single track. A lot of the strong team riders caught us solo beginners quick and some were clearly frustrated (a couple were d$cks about it, but there's one in every group right ) with having been started behind us. I can't say I blame them since they were clearly looking to take a faster pace and I did my best to allow for easy passes all day. So I was just curious if this is the way that it's done in similar race formats?

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    teams starting after solo

    Quote Originally Posted by RAS
    I do have a question for those more familiar with racing. Is it typical that all the solo's (including beginners) start before the teams? They started the groups every 2 mins or so, but this course has a short bit of fire road that quickly gets into single track. A lot of the strong team riders caught us solo beginners quick and some were clearly frustrated (a couple were d$cks about it, but there's one in every group right ) with having been started behind us. I can't say I blame them since they were clearly looking to take a faster pace and I did my best to allow for easy passes all day. So I was just curious if this is the way that it's done in similar race formats?
    I, too, thought it was really strange that the solo riders started before the teams. Anyone riding only one lap would start out a lot faster than someone doing 8 hours alone. I would hope that the organization changes this next year and lets the teams start first or maybe right after or with the pros and experts.
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    Bad Jenny & I did the coed division on singlespeeds. I'd never done an event like this, but Jen had done this event the 1st year when it snowed. Since she was the expert, she lead off with the 1st two laps, then I did two, then she did two, then I did two... and she got to bat clean-up and do a final lap since we had time. Her 5th lap was her fastest lap of the day!

    We bagged 9 laps and missed 3rd place by 44 lousy seconds... no thanks to the 5 minute flat tire repair I had at the end of lap 7. It was fun exchanging leads with the team (Julie & Pauly) that edged us.. a nice couple that also rode SS. I think all the other couples were on geared.

    It was a great day for riding Boggs, and I was completely impressed by the organizers and all the competitors, especially you solo nuts. 4 laps was enough for me. Great job Darth, Zon, MTB_Canuck, Graah, Asa, George, MadCatMike (and all the friendly Mad Cat riders)! I hope the one Mad Cat guy is okay... might have broken/damaged a vertabrae in his neck

    We took a few photos...

    The start of our group:


    BadJenny begins a long, fun day:


    BadJenny finishing lap 1, smiling:


    Me coming in on my 1st lap... following VodkaMike?:


    I think I only saw 1 other rigid SS all day:


    Off for lap 2 (4th team lap):


    BadJenny finishing her 5th lap (9th team lap) with a smile:


    My instructions were to have a beer ready


    Our group results:


    Good job, bike... you can rest now:

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    One additional data point regarding total climbing..

    - my Polar S725 shows 9300 ft and 72 miles for the 8 laps I did
    - preride the day before for 1 lap showed exactly as stated on Boggs site - 1200 ft..... http://www.bikemonkey.net/oldsite/in...II&page=course
    - when we did 10K day at Demo a couple weeks ago my Polar was showing slightly higher at the end than jeffh's Polar 305 - i think there was approx a 500 ft difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39n, 121w
    I think I finished between Darth Tracer and Vodkamike3. So it looks like around 8th place in solo sport. Finish time 5:15 with 8 laps. Do you guys know how many riders were in the sport solo category?

    I pulled over to let a faster group pass before the little root section and I noticed a Mad Cat rider with a rider number close to mine, but I was fading and I could never catch him (I'm think it was Darthtracer). Oh well!

    I See you at Cool next month!

    Mark
    There were 32 in Sport Solo class. I know that i passed Vodkamike, but what were you wearing? I was told that i passed 2 on my final lap but only remembered VM because he and I chatted earlier in the day.. I was on the Mamasita.

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    Jealous reading all these ride reports, everyone did a great job!

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    It was good. I did nine laps, just got my 9th in with 5 minutes to spare. First two were too fast, I kinda dawdled for four and tried to get my strength back and my back to stop hurting, then went hard for the last two. Got 5th in solo 40+, don't know how many in my field. I felt good about 9 laps, was only going for 8. Good to see / meet you all. Here's what my garmin had to say:

    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5326759

    It's auto-lap feature failed to fire on lap 6, which was a pair of 58-minute laps that got glued together.

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s) 8:22:17 6:24 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s) 8:16:04 6:19 pace
    Distance (mi ) 78.39
    Moving Speed (mph) 9.5 avg. 34.3 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft) +13,011 / -12,967

    Big thanks to my friend Steve for helping me at my pit. Recipe advice: boiled small yellow potatoes with olive oil, rosemary and salt in ziploc bags was the perfect food. Also used Succeed Amino & Clip2 drink mixes, worked well for me as they did at last year's Cool race.

    Maybe someone else can tell the teacup story. See you at Napa Valley Dirt Classic or Cool.

    So tired,

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    My main goal was to finish 6 laps in less time and not be in as much pain as I was after 6 laps last year. Finished seven laps with 54 minutes left for an 8th lap. Instead of opting for a practice lap, I went for a beer. Back was aching, but thanks to Advil, I survived. Finished the seventh lap pretty much as a casual loop, hanging with SJensen and his DH bike the whole way. I think both of us could have done it faster, but it was great to just chill knowing we had close to 2 hours to do it in. Great seeing everyone out there and the vibe of the whole event was A+!!

    Greate job to Carlos and everyone else involved! Can't wait until next year.

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    I raced on a 3-man team with jrm and pimpbot.

    jrm, pimpbot and rensho.



    pimpbot, ready for his first lap.



    We were out there to have fun and to break no other records than our own. Unfortunately, having never raced Boggs before, I had to set a president before I could break any personal records.

    At Cool a few weeks ago, I nursed the last 3 miles of my second lap with a slowly leaking front tire which probably hurt me for a few minutes of lap time. Based on some of the claims of "rock garden sections" at boggs, I converted my Jericho Leadfoot over to Stan's using the rimstrips, juice and Hutchinson Spider UST tires last week. I only got to ride a couple of miles before the race to try it out but I felt confident that the conversion had been a success.

    It was downright cold as we lined up for the first lap. I lined up in group 5 - 3-man and 3-person Co-ed and we started 7 minutes after the lead group. Unfortunately, what that meant for me was once the start buzzer blew, I was forced into a congo line right after the first fireroad climb.

    It was really hard to ride that slow for that long knowing that this was a race. I took every opportunity of a wide spot in the trail to call out and pass, sometimes 3 and 4 riders at a time. I passed people I knew from 2-man teams and eventually even overtaking solos who had started 7 minutes before me.

    By the time I hit the long section of fireroad climb, I had easily passed 50 - 60 people. Some were slower and many had mechanicals, flats or the like. The trail was very dusty and slippery in placed with deep pine needles over dust. My Spiders gripped very well and I never once worried about pinch flatting so gave it everything I had, 1 lap at a time.

    Erich and John making the transition.



    In all, we racked up 8 laps - 2 for John, 3 each for Erich and myself and IIRC, John said we came in 16th out of 24 teams. Not bad for being the untrained athletes that we are.

    My Garmin read 8.55-8.7 miles per lap (3 laps of slightly varying distance) but all read in the area of less than 1400' per lap. My legs said that this was a more accurate number.

    After uploading to Motion Based, My first 2 laps read pretty similar but the last lap had reception errors. My top speeds during the laps read about 30mph according to my Garmin but got perverted to 42mph and 50mph by Motion Based. I can almost believe 42 but no way did I ever hit 50.

    Lap 1: I think I forgot to turn off the unit until I hit the MTBR pit a couple of minutes later - about 100 yards from the start/finish.

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s)1:00:096:55 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s)0:56:326:30 pace
    Distance (mi )8.68
    Moving Speed (mph)9.2 avg.42.9 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft)+1,350 / -1,350

    Temperature (F)49.4F avg.53.6F high
    Wind Speed ( mph)ENE 2.7 avg.ENE 4.6 max.

    Lap 2: This time I remembered to turn it off immediately after making the tag.

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s)0:54:426:18 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s)0:54:426:18 pace
    Distance (mi )8.66
    Moving Speed (mph)9.5 avg.50.9 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft)+1,258 / -1,263

    Temperature (F)60.8F avg.64.4F high
    Wind Speed ( mph)SSE 8.1 avg.SSE 10.4 max.

    Between each lap, I cleaned and lubed my chain, checked my tire pressure which remained fairly constant at about 28psi. My Leadfoot and its drivetrain performed almost flawlessly except once dropping the chain off of the inside of the little ring and once off the outside of the big ring, which I was able to recover from without stopping.

    I fueled during each lap with a single Clif shot pack and only water from a CamelBak. Between each lap, I ate a banana, SportLegs, half of a breakfast burrito, Cytomax, some junk that was laying around the pit area, lots of water and some Clif Shots and Blocks.

    I didn't cramp at all and I didn't feel any lactic burn unti lthe middle of the 3rd lap, which dissipated soon after. Mostly, I attribute this to the SportLegs and Cytomax. The powder Cytomax seems to work better than powder Gatorade but causes me some serious digestive issues.

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    Ethan and Jenny.



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    chum, plim and jeffh between laps.



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    Hmmm... I'm really sure I didn't do any hills twice per lap. I wonder why my Edge 305 is so far off?
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    Good times, plenty of suffering

    after lap one, really wasn't sure racing wasn't my brightest decision. Kids gave me a nasty head/chest cold earlier in the week and I was still deep into it.

    Had a goal of nine laps and managed to reach that, so I'm a very happy camper.

    Classic moments were Sully (Sean Sullivan) and I riding along on the ST exchanging hacking spasms each lap. Are mantra for the day was "Lots of High's and Low's man, just keep pedaling" Sully if you check in here, I really hope you're feeling better.

    Good seeing Fritz, meeting Carlos in person for the first time, seeing Yuri, Dez, Cameron and many others like...

    Nice meeting Brad out there too, he was stomping it good! Nice job man. You're gonna rail at the Coolest this year. See you at the PCRS or the Coolest.

    Sean Allen thanks for the shower and helping me get my crap back to my camp.

    And thanks for the ride Jimmyboy!
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    great time!

    thanks so much for the support from everyone. its was great seeing people....as i was pedaling by each lap or after the race when i couldn't even put together full sentences or remember names- including my own.

    roger, good to see you and thanks for the encouragement on lap 6 when i was cramping. kevin, sorry the girls at the pit weren't giving massages. nick, why were you going the wrong way when i saw you, and how the f did your girlie do 7 laps on her singlespeed?! amazing. rensho- wish you'd have been out there. raphael, nice job man. jms- nice to meet you in person. i'll try to someday come down and ride with you.

    i'm tired today and sore- especially upper body from pushing the bars around. i stayed up there last night and we did a short ride today- i had nothing. the good part- i am still eating. i love eating.

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    What a great time !

    How about that 32 degree wake up call in the camp ground Saturday morning.

    The race stated well enough, we hit a lot of traffic in the first few single track sections and I just kept telling myself this is an all day race, no crazy passes on the first lap and just try and keep the heart rate down.

    JL and I passed each other two or three times in the first two laps, I was hearing a little noise from the rear wheel that I mentioned to rensho on the second pit stop he check all the spokes on the rear wheel and said it all looked good and off I went.

    When I came in for the third lap stop rensho was there with a spoke wrench and did a 1 minute tension job on the rear wheel and off I went, the noise was gone ! Thanks rensho

    The middle of my 4th lap was about the time my lower back started to tightening up on me. When I came in for the stop, I took 3 Advil and had a little to eat and rested for 3-4 min and headed back out.

    The 5th lap was just misery in my lower back I was feeling good other wise, no cramps, but it was hard to put the power down with my back so tight. After three back Surgery's and 4 fused disc, when my back says to slow down, I listen.

    With such a well stocked mtbr pit, it was an easy decision to man the pit now, besides Plim looked so comfortable in the lounge chair with a beer.

    I guess the main thing I learned from my first endurance race was the amount of pounding I was taking on a hardtail after 5 hours of continuous racing. Boggs is a super course and I know I will be back for some more fun.
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    Hey, be sure to PM me...

    andwe canget you up here for a ride in Auburn.

    Again, nice job, congrats!
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    Nice job Diggler, Roger, Sarah, Sunshine, Morgan and ever single person out there.

    It sounds like I knew 10 out of 9 people out there. It sucks that I missed it. But hey, when the nuns at church saw me, I knew the skies would have struck me dead if I missed my kid's event.

    And hey, my wife is full on riding now. Got something done this weekend at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrah
    My main goal was to finish 6 laps in less time and not be in as much pain as I was after 6 laps last year. Finished seven laps with 54 minutes left for an 8th lap. Instead of opting for a practice lap, I went for a beer. Back was aching, but thanks to Advil, I survived. Finished the seventh lap pretty much as a casual loop, hanging with SJensen and his DH bike the whole way. I think both of us could have done it faster, but it was great to just chill knowing we had close to 2 hours to do it in. Great seeing everyone out there and the vibe of the whole event was A+!!

    Greate job to Carlos and everyone else involved! Can't wait until next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
    nick, why were you going the wrong way when i saw you, and how the f did your girlie do 7 laps on her singlespeed?! amazing.
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    What a fun way to spend time with Friends!! MunchkinSS was my team mate for the 2 person female class. I got to pre-ride the course on Friday with a bunch of friends so I had an idea of what to expect. Good thing I did, it made it easier to sleep on Friday night, so it was only the cold keeping me awake.

    I started the race as agreed, because I could start in the back of the pack with my buddy Sarah. We were off and Sarah went ahead of me on the first down hill section. I hooked up with another lady I think her name was Yvette and we had a good first lap. We stayed together on the climbs and she would get a little ahead of me on the down hills. We had a good lap and however we got lapped by some of the really fast guys coming off the 2nd to last fire road section. They were yelling at us so I just went straight to get out of their way. I saw Menso right on their tails, he may have been in third place at that time, he was flying. When I got to 2.the transition area MunchkinSS was there waiting for me to come in. I tagged her and wished her a good lap. She raced it solo last year so she knew what to expect.

    I had about an hour to wait for my 2nd lap to begin. I was waiting in the transition area and she came in and I was off on my lap. I knew from the start that this lap I was going to get passed a lot more than on the first lap, so I tried to mentally prepare for that, because there were some riders that were not as forgiving to me for being slow, but most were and I tried to move over and stop or give them room to pass when I could. But I didn't expect to come upon the lady and her son walking 2 dogs off leash, one that could not hear and was standing in the middle of the single track trail where I had to stop so they could go get it and the German Shepard running up the trail at me!! All in all the lap went OK and I didn't crash or cause anyone to crash so I thought it was a success. I didn't feel that tired but I decided that was my last lap cause I am more used to racing against beginners and not the really fast guys. When I got to the transition I saw MunchkinSS off and told her I was probably not going out for a third lap, she said no problem.

    I saw MunchkinSS come in after her 2nd lap and saw her off on her 3rd lap. She was doing great!!

    I changed my cloths and grabbed my COW BELL and got to work cheering on the racers. I also got a few pictures of my buddies finishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
    ....nick, why were you going the wrong way when i saw you......
    Because i geared too high and had a couple angry-hamstring-chewing-badgers gnawing at my legs thank you very much.....ugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
    ....and how the f did your girlie do 7 laps on her singlespeed?! amazing!......
    she rawks like the proverbial hurricane...not kidding...she is a natural bona fide ShEvil SingleSpeedstress....through and through....pulled the 7 laps full on rigid SS...and finished with a smile...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt_Diggler
    ...i am still eating. i love eating.
    oh...you are soooo right.......just killed a Belgium waffle, 3 sausages, 2 bacon, OJ, coffee, log-o-salami, 4 different kinds of cheeses, 3 beers and now have a pizza coming......and ice cream......this is why i love endurance racing......
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    now...my race report....geared-up on my full rigid SS from 32X18 (last year) to 34X18 this year....i got stronger.....i can go faster.....pfft!......first 3 laps all is good....hammering out an 8 lap day......then the invisible-rabid-leg-badgers show up on lap 4 in full-on angry muscle knotting force...no bueno.... did 7 painful laps.....

    started lap 5...got about 300 yards and had a "moment".....i really, really...hate it when my body attacks me.....time to turn tail and roll shamefully back to the pits...had to rest....15 or so minutes....banana, gels, gatorade, sportslegs...i stretch....it's 2:30 or so....no way i can grab 8....but i can pull off a mellow 7 (though..it didn't seem mellow).

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    Pocket (Sarah) completing a SOLID 6 laps....WOW!!!!....thoroughly impressed...

    Ran into Tom (?).....Blind Solo mountain biker railing it up some techy singletrack with his guide.....had a short chat....really COOL dude ......weird he thought i was nutty for riding SS........the guy is a bad ass

    and of course my lady.....racking off 7 laps on a her rigid 29er SS......whoa......everyone should be envious.....
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    Best Race Ever!!!

    I was in no physical or mental state to compete this year. But I had signed up and wanted to feel the vibe and see all my mountain biking friends, so I made the trip to Cobb. It was my most enjoyable race ever.

    In the early morning Saturday darkness Morgan drove up to our carpool meeting place in a grumpy aggro mood. A mood not helped by the fact that after getting in his car and starting to drive, he realized he'd left his glass mug of hot tea on his bumper. "Damn," he thought, "Now there'll be a bunch of broken glass on my street. And I get no tea." Yet when he parked by us his tea had somehow survived the trip along winding hilly roads and freeway. There it was, just sitting on the bumper. It was a good omen for him, as his mood improved and he completely kicked ass with his nine laps.

    After a quick drive North, we arrived at Boggs. We got there a little after eight, so we all hustled to register, set up our pit area, and get ready to ride. In what seemed like an instant, it was time for people to line up at the starting line.

    I didn't line up though. As the race began, I was settled into my chair with my feet up to watch everyone charge up the trail. I cheered each group as they whizzed by my vantage point. Five or ten minutes after the last group started, I got out of my jeans and onto the bike.

    JustJeff had delayed his start as well and we talked as we started up the first climb. There was nothing but clear trail in front of me as I got to blast down the first singletrack descent. Some race courses are dull, but the Boggs route is a fun ride no matter what the situation. I rode three relaxed laps and enjoyed every minute.

    Then I stopped, changed, cracked open a beer and cheered on everyone else. It was especially fun to see an exhausted rider come in and try to convince them they needed to head out for one more lap, that they could make it if they pushed themselves.

    My plan worked. If I'd started with my group I know the competitive juices would have kicked in. By delaying my start, I was able to relax and have a really enjoyable day. Just what the doctor ordered.

    So thanks to all who were out there. I couldn't have asked for a better time. And if I tried to list all the people who impressed the hell out of me with their accomplishments, I'd be typing forever. You all know you rock.
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    Another Solo Sport Men

    Wow - this was a fantastic race! Beautiful day, perfect trails, and great friendly competition. And I'm pretty psyched about getting 3rd place. Thanks everyone, and see ya at the Coolest 24...

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    Nice Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by crawdad
    Wow - this was a fantastic race! Beautiful day, perfect trails, and great friendly competition. And I'm pretty psyched about getting 3rd place. Thanks everyone, and see ya at the Coolest 24...

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    Nice bike, great job! I was the MaCat guy on the same bike. I ended up 7th with 8 laps.

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    This was my second endurance race on the SS full rigid niner. The first was 12 hrs of Humboldt and i have to say i was in more pain in this 8 hours @ Boggs. Mostly from not choosing a bigger gear on the rear.
    The 32-20 was hard for me. I thought about changing gears after lap 4 but I knew with my lap times i would not make my goal of 8 laps, so i just hung it out and ended up getting 8 laps.
    And i never walked. But if the wind blew any harder i would have fallen over.

    I think I was 5th in the sport SS class. Maybe i would podium if they had age categories for SS sport. Or maybe it would be worse seems like the Master's just keep getting better. ( ask JMS)

    Dose Bike Monkey post the times on a web site?

    Want to say thanks to Rensho for the support. When your hurting and someone gives a word of engorgement when you ride by it feels great!

    Jeff I knew something was up with you when i saw you on the climb . Hope your back feels better.
    Chum it was great to meet you and thanks for telling me my form looked good on the 7th lap , because i was thinking a hole other thought.

    I wanted to meet more of you who were from MTBR but i was just to tried. When i rode by i heard all of you thanks! I said hi to a few others with the MTBR jerseys on the course but i was to tried to remember your names. I was riding the orange niner & full face helmet.

    Thanks John S. for sharing your spot with me and having pizza & a beer with me, I always enjoy talking with you & Bridget.

    HERE IS A TIP FOR YOU WHO FROZE ON COBB MT.

    After the race I met my girl friend at Harbin Hot springs 25 minutes away and soaked in the hot springs with all the naked people and spent the night, Harbin has camping there. I didn't see any cyclists there from the race. I wondered why so many people stayed up at Cobb Mt. and froze their butts off and didn't camp at Harbin and soak in the Hot Springs
    3 pools at 90- 110 -115 degrees? Woke up in the morning at soaked until noon.

    Had a great time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth tracer
    There were 32 in Sport Solo class. I know that i passed Vodkamike, but what were you wearing? I was told that i passed 2 on my final lap but only remembered VM because he and I chatted earlier in the day.. I was on the Mamasita.
    Thanks for the info Darth. 32 riders in sport - Wow! I did better than I thought.

    Yep, that was me that you passed. I was only a couple minutes ahead of vodkamike when you passed me. Vodka and I talked for a while right before the jump and I mentioned to him that we only had 38minutes before the final bell.

    I was wearing a Victory Velo jersey and riding a red Turner. On lap 5 I followed you and Kyle another Mad Catter (I believe that was his name). Kyle and I rode the entire lap together as you pulled ahead.

    I've ridden with you at Prarie City before, so I'll look for you out there.

    Good job on doubling your lap total from last year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM
    Ran into Tom (?).....Blind Solo mountain biker railing it up some techy singletrack with his guide.....had a short chat....really COOL dude ......weird he thought i was nutty for riding SS........the guy is a bad ass
    Bobby McMullen! That guy is my hero.

    Good job Chum and Felicia. You are both hard core and nice people.

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    Yeah, I remember you. Nice job on 7th! Well, let me see - 3rd and 7th - our success surely couldn't be attributed to anything other than that we were both riding Mamasitas.

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    I sure had a nice weekend of racing. Carlos and crew put on a great event. The entry transfer to Scotty Jensen went without a hitch. The organizers were totally cool about it and didn't even flinch. Thanks guys.

    I kept busy watching lap times, mix bottles, dole out meds, Gu blocks, fill Gu bottles. My buddy Kent showed up and we rode out on the course to scout out places for him to take pics. Later we did a lap just to view the course. I got to play in some of the ST downhills, while staying out of the way of any racers.

    Pocket(Sarah) did a great job sticking to her plan; ride 1:20 laps until the clock runs out. My job was to not mess with the plan.

    Here's a picture of me leading out one of the Team MadCats riders. I love singletrack.
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    Kent passed along some shots:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    Here's a picture of me leading out one of the Team MadCats riders. I love singletrack.
    Looks more like Shezo (I probably spelled it totally wrong) ...
    This dog is quite as fast as its owner ;-)

    I had a fun time too, lots of known faces and a very nice hanging out with all the guys. I stayed from Friday to Sunday and almost froze my butt off the first night. But after the starting the race the adrenaline kept me warm.

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    nice job everyone! looks like you all had a great time!
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    Some shots from my beercam.

    Shiloh lap 1
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    Dan51 rode lap 2 entirely on the back wheel
    Finishing lap 2 also on the back wheel, but 2 minutes slower than Dan51
    From afar, I thought it was Luke's father...
    ----But it turned out to be Mark59.
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    Gogo Girls team handoff
    DirtDiggler looking super strong to start lap 3
    Menso was leading the ENTIRE field to start lap 3
    Jeremy on a non pink bike, and with gears!
    JMS was all good, and looking like a rock every lap
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    CHUM killing it every lap, full rigid to boot!
    Plim says, "Plan is complete, 3 laps, it's Miller Time!"
    ----Hey Plim, Darthmouth called, they want their sponsor jersey back.
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    Mountain bike racing...it's wild, it's intense! Climb climb climb, zoom zoom zoom ,climb climb zoom zoom,climb zoom climb zoom....Around and around...7 or 8 hours of it! Yeah!

    I did 6 laps and had time for a 7th, but didn't. I kind of regret that now.

    Great race, great course, great production...great vibe: Lots of cool people, music, beer, food, and friendly dogs walking about.

    And great MTBR.com friends! Your: ** cow bells**Go Rob!**cow bells** Go Rob! Go!! **cow bells** inspired me.
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    This was my first race ever. It was great! I knew I wanted to ride the entire 8 hours. I was expecting/hoping to do 5 laps. The 6th lap was just bonus. I couldn't have done any of it, though, without Rensho. He helped me train for the race. He fine-tuned my bike and put on racing tires (racing ralph in front and nano raptor in the rear). He had me in and out of pit stops in less than a minute with everything I needed. He rode part of the 4th lap with me and coached me on my riding technique. Then at the end of the day he went out with me on a 6th lap that I had just enough time to finish. He was pacing me, encouraging me, handing me an accelerade bottle and goo flask at appropriate intervals, and he got me to the finish with time to spare. It was my 2nd fastest lap of the day. Race support extraordinaire! Thanks, honey.

    And thanks to everyone for all of the encouragement and compliments. I had so much fun just being out there. MunchkinSS, thanks for letting Carmen (ibikergal) start the race with me. It's nice to have a good friend close by in such a big crowd. Justjeff, thanks for coaching me through some of the technical singletrack. I almost cleaned it! Kent, thanks for being there to take pictures. It was so great to see you again!

    And a special thanks to all the racers who had such encouraging words as they flew by me and who passed me on the singletrack with such skill and ease that I never once felt at risk. Especially JMS, who not only offered encouragement, but rode alongside me and gave me a push up the hill. Thanks everyone for a great race!

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    The huge, full photo gallery is very slowly uploading here (won't finish until sometime tomorrow): http://kwc.org/cycling/photos/local/boggs-iii/

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    that was fun. my body regrets it though.

    thanks much to 'los and bike monkey for a great event. it was a fun course, cool scene. my altimeter said 1080 feet of climbing per lap.

    thanks for all those that kindly cheered for me throughout the course (of offered sympathy) by yelling some form of "Go cyclocrosser!" while I was doing laps on the cyclocross bike.

    after getting in after dark, we camped right near registration which ended up being a lucky location.

    raced with 2-man with fellow Cyclocross Magazine lackey Steve Ransom. came with only intentions to have fun, having been off the bike for a couple weeks and all fitness long gone since 'cross season ended. Steve kindly started the race and dealt with traffic with his fresh road race skills on his new 29er. we ended up doing 9 laps to finish something like 16th of 34 teams.

    I did the first lap on an old 29er with a crappy fork, second and third laps on my 'cross bike with a 39x28 low gear, and then finished with two back-to-back laps on the 29er because my legs would not have survived 2 more laps on the 'cross bike. I enjoyed 4.5 of my 5 laps. Rode a bit with Morgan Fletcher who was finishing his race in the SOLO category, but that didn't last long, because just like in 'cross, he quickly dropped me, as we were both racing to finish by the 5:30 cutoff. I finished with 4 minutes to spare. Phew. Every part of my leg was on the verge of cramping by the end. I guess riding once a week the first 3 weeks in March and then going on vacation isn't very good prep, even if I was a pansy and on a 2-man team.

    the cross bike laps were an interesting experiment, possibly to be featured in a future issue of Cyclocross Magazine. I figured it'd be a lot slower. Obviously much depends on the course, and while there weren't super steep long climbs, there was a decent amount of climbing and a whole bunch of random sharp rocks on much of the trail, especially the descents. To my surprise, my fastest lap by about a minute was on my 'cross bike, and probably my second fastest lap would have been if I hadn't gone off course. but it definitely hurt the legs more. i had no choice but to mash up the climbs, and that proved quite fast, fun, but painful, but it took some of the fun out of the descents as I had to pay more attention to my lines. I had intended to bring the singlespeed and the 26er too to complicate this highly-unscientific experiment but got lazy.

    I think our lap times were about:
    55 steve - start, traffic
    51 me 29er
    53 steve
    50 me cx bike
    63 steve - crash
    54 me cx bike - went off course, lost a few minutes
    66 steve
    56 me 29er - crash
    59 me 29er - fried

    next year, maybe carlos will add a cyclocross category and we can get more nutso folks to ride the skinny tires. 5 cross races in a day? i bet joe miller would do it.

    see you next year.
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    Holy chit Ken. Those are some amazing photos.

    Everybody, meet Ken Conley. Buy his photos so he can buy a mountain bike.

    Ze bad boy can shoot:

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    I rode with Ken on a Sunday road ride and he said there's a lot more dogs and beer at the mountain bike ride.

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    Nice, kwc. I also enjoyed your 24 HOA photos from last year, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBalance
    Nice, kwc. I also enjoyed your 24 HOA photos from last year, btw.
    Thanks, the 24 HOA was where I first really got experience shooting MTB, though my untrained physique could only handle 8 HOA. My camera crapped out about the same time I did: all my batteries were dead and I had about a dozen shots left on the card. Next time I'll do 100 shots of espresso and get some good night shots .

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    Looks Fun!

    I normally avoid races since my speed is the opposite of racing. But this event will change my mind next time.

    This "race" looks like it's designed to be a lot of fun at all skill levels. Unlike a normal race, the objective here looks to be more personal, to find out how much one can personally accomplish. The ride time of 8 hours is thoroughly exhausting, but not a killer length like the 24HOA. The course looks to be a perfect lap length so you're not seeing the same ground too many times, but come back in often enough for revitalization. I also like the nice combination of distance and hills that's a little bit flatter than the terrain to which I usually become victim. And best of all is being together with lots of the other NorCal riders.

    I'll be sure not to miss it next year.

    Good pics Rensho! I enjoy them and that you were there to capture the moment with your fun shots. You make the "race" look like a party.

    The other pictures were very nice too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    Best Race Ever!!!

    I was in no physical or mental state to compete this year. But I had signed up and wanted to feel the vibe and see all my mountain biking friends, so I made the trip to Cobb. It was my most enjoyable race ever.

    In the early morning Saturday darkness Morgan drove up to our carpool meeting place in a grumpy aggro mood. A mood not helped by the fact that after getting in his car and starting to drive, he realized he'd left his glass mug of hot tea on his bumper. "Damn," he thought, "Now there'll be a bunch of broken glass on my street. And I get no tea." Yet when he parked by us his tea had somehow survived the trip along winding hilly roads and freeway. There it was, just sitting on the bumper. It was a good omen for him, as his mood improved and he completely kicked ass with his nine laps.

    After a quick drive North, we arrived at Boggs. We got there a little after eight, so we all hustled to register, set up our pit area, and get ready to ride. In what seemed like an instant, it was time for people to line up at the starting line.

    I didn't line up though. As the race began, I was settled into my chair with my feet up to watch everyone charge up the trail. I cheered each group as they whizzed by my vantage point. Five or ten minutes after the last group started, I got out of my jeans and onto the bike.

    JustJeff had delayed his start as well and we talked as we started up the first climb. There was nothing but clear trail in front of me as I got to blast down the first singletrack descent. Some race courses are dull, but the Boggs route is a fun ride no matter what the situation. I rode three relaxed laps and enjoyed every minute.

    Then I stopped, changed, cracked open a beer and cheered on everyone else. It was especially fun to see an exhausted rider come in and try to convince them they needed to head out for one more lap, that they could make it if they pushed themselves.

    My plan worked. If I'd started with my group I know the competitive juices would have kicked in. By delaying my start, I was able to relax and have a really enjoyable day. Just what the doctor ordered....

    Wow, I love your whole new attitude and winning race style. If you'd only told me how it was going to be, I'd been there for sure.

    And glass mugs staying on the bumper defies laws of physics. There was karma in that.
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    13 seconds

    Just got back Sunday night after doing a lap @ Bogg's Sunday with the Dirt Muffin [Brigitte] and the sprouts.
    I finished fourth out of 17: missed third, by 13 seconds, second by @ 5 minutes and the win by 11 minutes. I made up @ 1:12 on third on the last lap. 8 laps in 7:47. Winner in 7:36. I was 49 minutes faster this year than last - with no support this year. The racing was MUCH more intense this year, than last, and the conditions were tougher - cold and windy in the afternoon. That was the longest, most intense continuous span of racing I've done.
    As a race, Boggs has definitely come of age, however, I saw, and was treated to some bad behavior out there this year - I'm not naming names. Too bad, it would seem to be the end of the innocence. Overall, still fun, just not quite as much.
    I probably enjoyed Sunday chatting w/ Sean and Mary Allen @ the trail most of all - my thoughts are with them, and seeing Sean back to his old self and tormenting any and all at these events.

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    Thanks for the great shots Ken! (re-)met you on the road ride saturday..

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Nice job Diggler, Roger, Sarah, Sunshine, Morgan and ever single person out there.

    It sounds like I knew 10 out of 9 people out there. It sucks that I missed it. But hey, when the nuns at church saw me, I knew the skies would have struck me dead if I missed my kid's event.

    And hey, my wife is full on riding now. Got something done this weekend at least.
    looks like a great family weekend FC. Cherubin looks pretty comfortable on that bike- it fits her well. Isa and Miguel look like they are having a great time.

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    Tough day for me. I puked on my shoes on lap 6, boked as hard as I ever have, and spent about 10 minutes under our table eating fig newtons. Perpeteum is not all it's crackes yup to be. Yuri made a good point to me after the race. It either works, or you blow up. He said it's like playing Russian Roulette, and he's right, I got the hammer and bullet to connect on Saturday for sure. Still got 2 more laps out, but that 6th took the piss wind out of my sails. Lesson Learned.

    Sean- I hope you get whatever it is that ails you under control and attack it with the same fervor you take to training. You'll whoop it.
    Roger___- You da man, no matter how hard you hacked, get over it and see you at Cool.

    The rest of the MTBR's folks, it was fun racing and riding (and walking) with you all on Sat, I hope to do it again.

    And to respond to JMS's comment about bad behavior, I was really bummed out this year too. I was about to throttle a guy with an Ipod who was REALLY coasting. I was behind him yelling and screaming and trying to get around, with two more people stacking up by the time we hit the fireroad. We finally all got around him, at the Fireroad, I was laughing, and the guys who caught us couldn't figure out why. So I loudly said 'that a$$hat is wearing an Ipod and won't let people enjoy the ST.' He never even heard it...
    I know, I'm gonna catch hell for knocking the Ipod from some of you, I just think they're unsafe, and unsportmanslike. My opinion. But I'll let you know, usually politely, that you are violating the unspoken rules of racing (let people pass)
    All in all, 99% of the people (and dogs) there were REALLY Awesome as usual.
    I did miss Uncle MTB in the bibs at the rock garden.
    And FYI, I think there was 1 injury, Carl Burchfiel, as good friend of Carlos' and the whole Bikemonkey group, (he was videotaping the racers mtng and some of the race)
    He broke 2 vert.'s in his neck, but no spinal damage.

    Los' is going to Peru for 2 weeks. He deserves it.

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    guilty as one of the ipod wearers. In my defense, I only keep one ear in, and low enough to still hear tires or freewheels behind me. I heard everyone that called for a pass. Only one guy got upset at me for making him ride about 100 extra yards through a tight section, but I heard him all the way, and I wouldn't have gone to a complete stop even if I weren't wearing an ipod. I was still going about 15mph or more through the section. He gave a sincere "thanks" so I don't think he was too upset.

    Healing vibes to Carl...

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    In most organized events such as these they don't allow Ipods. They can be very unsafe and not a good place to ride with them. They should make a penalty that if caught wearing an ipod you get deducted one lap. Ouch
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    video of the mens 3 man start:

    Boggs 8 Hour 3-Man Start from Ted Ketai on Vimeo.
    the two guys out front, jared and erik were on the 1st and 2nd place teams.

    jared- feeling ragged after two laps...
    here's jared... he starting his third consecutive lap in this shot. i was checking on him to be sure he could do the third without a break. i wanted to finish my irish coffee before starting my set of three. he said he was feeling "pretty ragged". sounds on time to me.

    joe
    joe in his spiffy new Big Swinging' Cycles skinsuit.

    sasha x
    Sasha X always rocks the Sheila Moon skinsuit.

    the pink lidded wonder
    The Pink Lidded Wonder.

    isaiais and team.
    These jokers won first place. The guy on the right is a ringer Isaias got from Germany.

    second place guys
    These are the clowns that got 2nd place in the open men's 3 man team. Isaias and crew beat us by 40+ MINUTES.

    that was a really well organized event with lots of cool peeps roaming around. props to all who put it together. we'll be back next year for sure.

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    As I came down the fireroad stretch with the tight right and a hump on my second lap, one of the volunteers was trying to flag me to slow down. I slowed down enough to see someone laying on the ground just after the hump.

    At that time, I had already been talking to Tim and Los about the first one being taken out by ambulance after he refused the helecopter ride. I asked the volunteer "how many does that make?" He replied "this is number 4." All I could do was shake my head a bit, mutter some "hope everything turns out OK" and kept along my way.

    As for passing, it was better after the first lap and everybody spread out. There were still some spots that I got into a congo line on the ST with people waiting for a wide enough spot to pass. Some people pulled off to let people pass and some didn't. Everyone I got stuck behind eventually asked me if I wanted to pass and I did the same for people behind me.

    The only bad pass that was made on me was by someone wearing a Salinas HS jersey. He badly followed another guy who had asked to pass and when I said yes, he went. Salinas didn't tell me he was back and passing too so I started to cut back onto the trail and continue my race. I brushed into him and swerved back to avoid taking him out in a big chunk into nearby trees.

    I'm sure I may have aggravated a few people by breathing hard down their backs but I hope I explained that I just didn't have enough energy to overtake on certain sections. Sometimes, I just waited for the upcoming section of fireroad and saved up my energy for that.

    In all, it was a hell of a course, some really great people organizing and racing and I had a great time. I'll probably try solo next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall
    In most organized events such as these they don't allow Ipods. They can be very unsafe and not a good place to ride with them. They should make a penalty that if caught wearing an ipod you get deducted one lap. Ouch
    I'm sure that will be discussed. BUT!!! the thing that people like about this event, is the lack of stupid BS rules. It's always worked out b/c people are polite, and the event has been small. This year, the numbers practically doubled, which makes it seem like a much more impersonal event.

    24 HOA bans Ipods, and I think anything they do should be avoided on principle.!!

    Coolest 24 doesn't ban them, it hasn't been a problem there ever in my experience.
    I think a general mention of the courtesy rule and suggestion of Ipod dissuse at the meeting might be in order for next year... Just a friendly reminder...
    And for anyone wearing them, it's not the Ipod, I know there are responsible people out there using them, which is why banning them doesn't make sense. Their existence has a way of interfering in the race though, in the sportsmanship that people who may have recently started racing / riding might not understand. (you know back in the days B.I.- Before Ipods)

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    With double the number or riders this year, there was sure to be more passing. Everyone I saw on the course on my 2 laps was pretty courteous and appreciative of passing or being passed.

    I agree that the folks trying to sneak in a pass, and not letting it be known that they're trying to get by. This happened once to Sarah on the course. The person behind her asked to pass on her left. She moved right. The guy behind him was then trying to pass both of them on her right. He didn't say a word, and they ended up rubbing elbows. There was no crash, and no real issue, but he was being very aggressive with the move.
    I think these are simple issues that could be ironed out and driven into people's minds at the prerace meeting. All passes should be made known, make known your intent.
    Tough to have a race with mostly ST without passing issues. I wouldn't want the course changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    I wouldn't want the course changed.

    word up!

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    Very well stated. It is about the person and not the device. I wear one occasionally but some wear it so loud that others have no choice other than listen to John Tesh. I think it would make me climb faster to get away from them. Maybe it is just me but I do like to socialize while riding and when my buddies wear them on group rides, it is frowned upon.
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    any idea when the results will be on line and where they might be found?

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    Ah, so I see that Plim won the overall. Nice...

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    Too much fun

    Wow, what an awesome event. It's pretty rare that you have an event that's well-organized without being anal about it. And this one was.

    I signed up for the 3-man team, but after one lap, one of my teammates realized he was too sick to continue. So we essentially ended up riding as a two-man team. Which, honestly, was more fun, since that course demanded to be ridden as much as possible. We ended up doing a total of 9 laps, of which I did 4, for 8th place in 3-man men's.

    I had a terrible second lap, what with my front quick release coming loose (I am never complaining about lawyer tabs!) and my seat tilting back about 30 degrees over the course of the second half of the lap.

    As I was flying down the beautiful, swoopy singletrack on my third lap, with nobody in sight in front or behind, I had a sudden realization that I was having an incredible amount of fun. It was pretty much a transcendent moment I've never had before mountain biking. Amazing.

    The one downside of the whole day was that I ended up chasing down the team ahead of us on the last section of singletrack and just could not get by him. It sucks to be beaten by a bike length in an 8-hour race! Sprinting straightaway at the end for next time, please.

    I am sorry I didn't get a chance to socialize much with most of you all. I was pretty much in racing or recovery mode for most of the day. I did appreciate all the cheering as I went by, though!

    I am not sure I'd really want to do the race solo, only because I am not sure I'd really enjoy it as much, but I will definitely by back, on no bigger than a 2-man team.

    Random thoughts:
    Really, Morgan? 9 laps? Wow.

    For some reason I kept running up behind Rafael.

    At one point, I headed out on a lap, only to see Chum sitting on the side of the trail about a hundred yards past the pits, looking all miserable.

    Andrew on his cross bike(!)

    Lots of people complimenting me on the flowery Sheila Moon skinsuit. I forget that a lot of people didn't see it during cross season, so it was new to them...although I think the socks helped.

    I am really tired of hearing myself b*tch about how my bike doesn't fit me. I am sure everybody else is even more fed up. Time to do something about it.

    We got there at something like 6:30 on Friday, and I headed out to preride the course before dark with no water, tools, food, lights, or even an extra tube. possibly not the smartest thing I've ever done, but it turned out ok.

    On our Sunday recovery ride, my girlfriend rocking the singletrack on her Bridgestone XO-1 city bike with bar-end shifters, upright bars, and road tires.

    Sitting round the fire talking trash after the race, full keg of prohibition on tap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    I agree that the folks trying to sneak in a pass, and not letting it be known that they're trying to get by. This happened once to Sarah on the course. The person behind her asked to pass on her left. She moved right. The guy behind him was then trying to pass both of them on her right. He didn't say a word, and they ended up rubbing elbows. There was no crash, and no real issue, but he was being very aggressive with the move.
    I think these are simple issues that could be ironed out and driven into people's minds at the prerace meeting. All passes should be made known, make known your intent.
    Tough to have a race with mostly ST without passing issues. I wouldn't want the course changed.
    I wouldn't see something like this too serious. Even if it looks very easy how the guy is passing you - its not. You have to change your rhythm, use the disadvantageous route and have to make sure not to crash into the guy you pass. So you look for the best possibility to pass and sometimes it just changes very quick.
    I tried to be very polite in passing people but it didn't always work out, sometimes because of me and sometimes because of others but after all I have to admit that most people were very friendly.
    And after all its race, I think the Pro guys even get money for the first places so they might be a bit more ambitious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashax
    ....At one point, I headed out on a lap, only to see Chum sitting on the side of the trail about a hundred yards past the pits, looking all miserable.....

    yes...i was very, very sad.......my legs were having a heated argument with my brain.....they both took a "time-out".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by erisch
    I wouldn't see something like this too serious. Even if it looks very easy how the guy is passing you - its not. You have to change your rhythm, use the disadvantageous route and have to make sure not to crash into the guy you pass. So you look for the best possibility to pass and sometimes it just changes very quick.
    I tried to be very polite in passing people but it didn't always work out, sometimes because of me and sometimes because of others but after all I have to admit that most people were very friendly.
    And after all its race, I think the Pro guys even get money for the first places so they might be a bit more ambitious.

    erisch
    You comments get to the dilema touched on by jms and Rensho - What's the balance going to be for this event?

    Will it continue to be a friendly "everyone's having a good time" event, or is it going to tip towards being an ultra-competetive "every man for himself" event?

    My experience Saturday was that 95% of racers were polite, announcing their presence and intents and thanking me for allowing for passing. The other 5% left me with a bad taste - I saw one guy cause a female racer to crash in a narrow rocky section, where if he had waited 5 more seconds, everyone would have still had their rubber-side down.

    Its fine if this race wants to become more serious - I'll probably stay away, as I don't want to get in the way of someone who can't afford a 10 second delay or two words to call out. OTOH, if the race wishes to continue to be a fun home-grown event, then serious racers probably want to know, as they don't want to be on a course with a bunch of us slow guys blocking the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJeff
    You comments get to the dilema touched on by jms and Rensho - What's the balance going to be for this event?

    Will it continue to be a friendly "everyone's having a good time" event, or is it going to tip towards being an ultra-competetive "every man for himself" event?

    My experience Saturday was that 95% of racers were polite, announcing their presence and intents and thanking me for allowing for passing. The other 5% left me with a bad taste - I saw one guy cause a female racer to crash in a narrow rocky section, where if he had waited 5 more seconds, everyone would have still had their rubber-side down.

    Its fine if this race wants to become more serious - I'll probably stay away, as I don't want to get in the way of someone who can't afford a 10 second delay or two words to call out. OTOH, if the race wishes to continue to be a fun home-grown event, then serious racers probably want to know, as they don't want to be on a course with a bunch of us slow guys blocking the trails.

    This race will remain a small, homegrown event. It will never be Sea Otter or 24 HOA. That's not what Los is about, that's not why he does this stuff. I can't speak for him, but he reads these comments, and takes them to heart.
    Some of the fast guys are just that. Fast guys. It's really tough to tone it down. (I'm guilty, but I stopped taking myself seriously and got a bit slower on the climbs, started riding SS's) You can't blame them, it's the nature of the beast. This event has grown b/c it's a grassroots thing. Music, beer, food, dogs, how it should be. The event was supposed to be capped at about 250 this year, and a late FLURRY of reg's pushed it well beyond that limit, into the mid 400's. Maybe there were too many people for such a short course?
    Maybe adding 1-2 miles of ST would help, not as much traffic (same # of people, spread over more mileage)
    Post your suggestions here, Los will read them at some point, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzaholic
    ...Post your suggestions here, Los will read them at some point, I'm sure.
    well.....since it is such a freakin' awesome course......the vibe is open/inviting/warm and fuzzy....and i really only see it getting more popular.......maybe have the race on Sat and Sun....split the solos from the teams....or split by category......it'd rock to make a full weekend of it......just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzaholic
    This race will remain a small, homegrown event. It will never be Sea Otter or 24 HOA. That's not what Los is about, that's not why he does this stuff. I can't speak for him, but he reads these comments, and takes them to heart.
    Some of the fast guys are just that. Fast guys. It's really tough to tone it down. (I'm guilty, but I stopped taking myself seriously and got a bit slower on the climbs, started riding SS's) You can't blame them, it's the nature of the beast. This event has grown b/c it's a grassroots thing. Music, beer, food, dogs, how it should be. The event was supposed to be capped at about 250 this year, and a late FLURRY of reg's pushed it well beyond that limit, into the mid 400's. Maybe there were too many people for such a short course?
    Maybe adding 1-2 miles of ST would help, not as much traffic (same # of people, spread over more mileage)
    Post your suggestions here, Los will read them at some point, I'm sure.
    I don't think that there were too many people on the trail. The first lap was pretty crowded though but to the middle of the race is was pretty stretched out and ok.
    It might be an idea to consider a different starting order. Because the teams will probably start faster then most of the solo guys. That the Pros and Experts start first is out of questioning. That might make especially the first lap a bit more convenient for all riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erisch
    I don't think that there were too many people on the trail. The first lap was pretty crowded though but to the middle of the race is was pretty stretched out and ok.
    It might be an idea to consider a different starting order. Because the teams will probably start faster then most of the solo guys. That the Pros and Experts start first is out of questioning. That might make especially the first lap a bit more convenient for all riders.
    erisch
    I fully agree. After the craziness of the first lap it spread out pretty nice. Increase the field size and it could be a different story.

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    It was really cool seeing cx people Sasha, Rick, MaryAnne, Cameron, Kathleen, Andrew, Curtis, Andrew, Murphy, Jeff, Paule, Julie, Chris, heck I'm gonna get in big trouble for leaving out names, plus all the mtbr people. It was so fun. My TR teammate Matthias rocked, getting 2nd in expert with the same number of laps as me, but something like 40 minutes faster. I'm gonna make him wear a heavy camelbak at TR.

    Re the course, it just plain rocked! I've never been to Boggs before. That was some of the most fun and beautiful trail I've ever been on. I tried to be super friendly, and I always waited until it was safe to pass, said "Thanks", used encouraging words, etc. When I felt someone behind me I usually said "Call it out" if they didn't call it or pass right away, and let people pass. I only experienced some people complaining on the 1st and 2nd laps, when it got bottle-necked on the singletrack. WTF? It's an 8hr race and unless you're one of those three guys who's top 3, chill. Complaining won't clear the bottleneck. I only had one guy pass me in an uncool fashion - he simply didn't call out, and passed me and the person in front of me in a rough manner. This was late in the race and I could tell he was a team racer, and looked young enough that he hadn't learnt better manners yet. Other than that, all I saw all day was good behavior.

    Re ipods, I did come up behind a woman with both ear buds in. I called out to pass and it was obvious she didn't hear me. That isn't cool, not because I was impeded but because she is going to get hurt riding like that. It's very important to be aware of your surroundings, when riding a mtn bike, especially with lots of people on the same trails and even more so if it's a race. I certainly had enough beautiful music going on with the sound of my heart, breathing, tires, other riders, birds and spectators all around me.

    On lap 5, right after the little rocky drop with the double "down" arrows, in the loose rocky switchbacks I screwed up and got my front wheel perpendicular to my path of travel, I was about to go down in an ugly fashion but I straightened my front wheel out and my front tire did one of those impossible "Savedyourlife!" recoveries, like when your friend grabs your shirt as you're standing on the edge of a long drop and says "Savedyourlife!" and you jump out of your skin and smile - my front tire did that for me. I am liking the Maxxis Advantage 2.25" tires. They might not be racy-fast but they're good all-around tires, and racy enough for that course, for me.

    Sasha, you look damn good in that skinsuit. Andrew's wool jersey is one of my faves too.

    Man, my back still hurts. Off to yoga class.

    Morgan

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    The start/finish made scoring easier

    and more accurate...and it was strategic in its placement, for that purpose (and worked great!). Not helpful for a sprint finish I agree with you there. Maybe a hybrid approach for the final lap would help.

    I know I had two team guys battling behind me and reaching me in the last 50 yards to the finish. I appreciate they didn't try a last minute pass on me, the race was over, it could have been ugly for all of us if they attempted.

    Please don't take the following as offensive. It's meant more to point out that it is an endurance race and you should focus responsibility of your performance on what you can control rather than what you cannot.


    You didn't lose a place by a bike length due to something you couldn't control; the start/finish. You lost a place because of things you could control...a loose skewer, or a long break, or... etc. It's an 8 hour race, and you had plenty of laps to know a sprint finish wasn't going to be possible, so it's not completely fair to blame the loss of a place at the feet of the organizer. Just something to think about at your next endurance event. Know the course, think ahead and have a strategy.

    Good luck at your next event!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger___
    You didn't lose a place by a bike length due to something you couldn't control; the start/finish. You lost a place because of things you could control...a loose skewer, or a long break, or... etc. It's an 8 hour race, and you had plenty of laps to know a sprint finish wasn't going to be possible, so it's not completely fair to blame the loss of a place at the feet of the organizer. Just something to think about at your next endurance event. Know the course, think ahead and have a strategy.

    Good luck at your next event!
    I don't blame anyone for anything and I didn't loose a place because of that. Its just like I said more convenient for all the racers. And its just safer without over-ambitious people trying to pass you at the most impossible places.
    And nobody can tell me, that he/she is not trying to pass in a RACE when the guy in front of you is a certain amount slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger___

    You didn't lose a place by a bike length due to something you couldn't control; the start/finish. You lost a place because of things you could control...a loose skewer, or a long break, or... etc. It's an 8 hour race, and you had plenty of laps to know a sprint finish wasn't going to be possible, so it's not completely fair to blame the loss of a place at the feet of the organizer. Just something to think about at your next endurance event. Know the course, think ahead and have a strategy.
    Oh, I know all that. And I understand why the finish was where (and how) it was. I am not seriously complaining. I think it's more fun for the racers and for the crowd to have a sprintable finish, but if it's the choice between an accurate lap count and a sprint finish, I'll choose accurate lap count every time!

    I thought it was a great event, and will be back next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger___
    and more accurate...and it was strategic in its placement, for that purpose (and worked great!). Not helpful for a sprint finish I agree with you there. Maybe a hybrid approach for the final lap would help.

    I know I had two team guys battling behind me and reaching me in the last 50 yards to the finish. I appreciate they didn't try a last minute pass on me, the race was over, it could have been ugly for all of us if they attempted.

    Please don't take the following as offensive. It's meant more to point out that it is an endurance race and you should focus responsibility of your performance on what you can control rather than what you cannot.


    You didn't lose a place by a bike length due to something you couldn't control; the start/finish. You lost a place because of things you could control...a loose skewer, or a long break, or... etc. It's an 8 hour race, and you had plenty of laps to know a sprint finish wasn't going to be possible, so it's not completely fair to blame the loss of a place at the feet of the organizer. Just something to think about at your next endurance event. Know the course, think ahead and have a strategy.

    Good luck at your next event!
    Roger's right about the scoring/ lap count area. Some races make you dismount and hobble through the S/F area so you are going slow enough for them to get your number. Other races let you stay on your bike, and give you some twists to slow you down.
    Both work.
    And yeah, In an endurance event, it's VERY rare to have a springt finish. It often ends with one, then the guys find that they were on different laps, or in different categories.
    MTB racing in general is usually decided well before the last 1,000 meters.

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    You forgot...

    Quote Originally Posted by morganfletcher
    I certainly had enough beautiful music going on with the sound of my heart, breathing, tires, other riders, birds and spectators all around me.
    cowbells!
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    Great pics guys!

    Passing seemed to get better as the race wore on.
    The first lap had very little communication, just people hammering by. By my 6th lap, every pass was pleasant and friendly.

    I only saw 1 pass that truly pissed me off. The Law and I were at the top of the backside climb and just beginning to head down where the first double red arrow area was. The section with the big rock you could either fly off (as I did 6 times) or go around to the left. This guy insisted on passing on her left right at the rocks! Forcing her to take the bad line down the middle. I could have killed the guy if he forced her to crash. Good thing she has more technical riding skills than that guy, and handled the rocks no problem. Luckily nothing came of if, but it still pisses me off.

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    Hey guys! So I just wanted to thank you all for coming. I see this thread is getting rather large and not everyone will get this. But the results are going to be posted TODAY on bikemonkey.net.

    Fritz, sorry about that false psych-out start. Jim didn't warn me about that crazy megaphone he had, and its tendency to do whatever the hell that was. You had the most confused look I've ever seen on a racer when that thing went off.

    To the rest of you - We'll get that start organized a LOT better next year. Realize that this event has DOUBLED every year since it's first race in the snowy icy weather of 2006. Thank you all for the unmatched support. It's been hard to keep up with, but we're not going to let it grow even a smidgeon more. 400 is the MAX, and when registration opens next year we will keep it that way.

    Thanks to another successful year, and a great fun event. Everyones temperment was just awesome.

    PS - I'll make sure that band sticks around a little later next year.
    See ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zignzag
    cowbells!
    When the race started, all UncleMTB had was a dinky little cowbell. When Carmen came in from one of her laps, she declared "this race needs more cowbell" and got hers. She was right - hers was enough cowbell for even Bruce Dickinson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzaholic
    ...

    The event was supposed to be capped at about 250 this year, and a late FLURRY of reg's pushed it well beyond that limit, into the mid 400's. Maybe there were too many people for such a short course?
    Maybe adding 1-2 miles of ST would help, not as much traffic (same # of people, spread over more mileage)
    Post your suggestions here, Los will read them at some point, I'm sure.
    I'd bet that's a big part of it. Due to the crowded course, faster riders got tired of having to pass yet again, and might have started skipping some pleasantries on their 99th pass mid-day. I know I started getting tired of hearing yet another rider behind me.


    It'll be interesting to see what happens at Coolest 24, which was a really fun homegrown-vibe event last year. It too seems to have become a popular race, and if registrations grow a lot, will the course and riders' patience be able to handle it? (although that course does seem to have a lot less singletrack)

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    [QUOTE=next year, maybe carlos will add a cyclocross category and we can get more nutso folks to ride the skinny tires. 5 cross races in a day? i bet joe miller would do it.


    -andrew[/QUOTE]

    Was that you and I that had that conversation about doing the race on the CX rig, SOLO 8 hr.
    That was my thought too. At least I'd have some gears...
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    The false start was hilarious. Maybe keep that as your trademark start to keep the low key vibe.

    Thanks for letting us in so late - we'll make sure that we're better organized next time so we don't have to beg to get in.

    You guys and gals did a fantastic job putting this race together. Having promoted races in the past (GGG), we know what it's like and it ain't easy. Most people don't notice all the little things that go into it. They only notice the oops that you make here and there.

    The timing system was very cool. Nice to be able to monitor your times, even if they were pathetically slow.

    Thanks again and perhaps we'll see you up at Lake Sonoma...

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    I loved the race, the course was awesome, one of the best courses I've raced on.

    I didn't think the vibe was as good as Whiskeytown 9-5 last year (my first 8 hr race) and that was mostly due to people not being cool when overtaking. There was one time on lap 2 when we were in the switchbacks maybe 300 yards from a big long wide fire road climb. A girl was doing great leading the way and some one at the back was *****ing and moaning the whole time. Dude, you've got 6 more hours of this, chill out.

    It was more than made up for by some nice dude in my category riding lap 7 with me and then dropping me and then waiting at the finish line to bump fists (sorry I didn't say much, nor did I really tell you if I was going to do another or not, I really didn't know). I headed up the fire road, saw it was 4:10 and I didn't have to be in until 5:30 so thought I would spin out a nice mellow 8th lap.

    Then some dude pops up behind me and we chat, I never looked around, we worked out we're both in the same category (Geared Solo Sport) and on our 8th lap. I beg him to overtake me, but he refuses. I suggest we just try and drag each other into the finish line before the 5:30 cutoff. I never look around and never see him again. Then I catch up with my nemesis DJ and ride and hike through cramps to try and beat him (even though he's in masters and is now reminding me they started 5 minutes later).

    Thanks to everyone who said a nice thing about our shirts and ties and propellers on our helmets, there were TWO of us racing with shirts and ties and a few others with propellers. More news at velonerds.com of course and see y'all at cool in May!

    I'm really looking forward to seeing the results posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkarkark
    I didn't think the vibe was as good as Whiskeytown 9-5 last year (my first 8 hr race) and that was mostly due to people not being cool when overtaking...
    I had maybe two negative experiences while being passed, but there were so many more cool people giving encouragement while passing it was surprising to a newbie like myself. Props to all of you!

    Quote Originally Posted by arkarkark
    Thanks to everyone who said a nice thing about our shirts and ties and propellers on our helmets..
    Loved the outfits!

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    more Garmin data

    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry

    PS. If anyone else has data, please post a link. I'd like to get some data verification from others.
    Yea, i've noticed that my Garmin Forerunner 305 does funky stuff with the elevation. I don't think it has a barometric sensor like the Edge 305.

    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5322792

    I've tried using SportTracks software to massage the data and if I set the smoothing to between about 70-90 I seem to get reasonable elevation measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    Great pics guys!

    I only saw 1 pass that truly pissed me off. The Law and I were at the top of the backside climb and just beginning to head down where the first double red arrow area was. The section with the big rock you could either fly off (as I did 6 times) or go around to the left. This guy insisted on passing on her left right at the rocks! Forcing her to take the bad line down the middle. I could have killed the guy if he forced her to crash. Good thing she has more technical riding skills than that guy, and handled the rocks no problem. Luckily nothing came of if, but it still pisses me off.
    What he said. I was approaching that section gaining speed and this guy says he's going to pass me on the left. I think to myself, now?!!! Not a good section to pass on dude. But he flies by me, launches off the rock, back wheel skidding as he landed and nearly crashed. Then he yelled, "sorry!"

    Thinking back, the only thing I can conclude is it was his first lap and he didn't know what was coming. Otherwise he wouldn't have passed there.

    Other than that, I have to say everyone was pretty nice in passing me. (I got passed a whole lot.)
    Can we talk tires now?

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    Here's my tracklog

    http://cruzmtb.googlepages.com/2008-04-05-Boggs.gpx

    It's from a garmin foretrex 201, not the best gps in the world. I was delighted I managed to get the whole race in there.

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    Oh god I think I've eaten too much.

    On the other hand, it was well earned! At least according to Garmin, which indicates that I burned 6200 calories (now, thats up near 2 pounds). I'll have to do some real measurements to see if this is all true or not.

    Speaking of Garmin, I show the following for the race:

    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5322668#

    5 laps total
    7:11 hours total time (5:50 moving time)
    43.94 miles
    7400 ft elevation gain (someone else who did the same # of laps only had 7000; he was faster, btw). NOTE: signal quality indicates "Fair".

    Average HR of 142 (low due to easy pace starting in 3rd lap)

    Wont get into each lap but will say that I had a very chill, relaxed ride for the first couple laps, even though the legs were in minor pain from the get go. Slowed my roll after the 3rd lap due to cramping but was able to milk my way to 5 laps.

    No problems with rude riders (I know how to GTF out of the way) and enjoyed talking on the trail with some of the people I knew like CHUM, saw PLIM at some point, Felicia; had a short hello with datenschwantz and enjoyed the Mad Cats discussing the fortitude of their farting on the first lap.

    This is one fantastic trail, and as with all fantastic trails it is NOWHERE near where I live. As usual the event was planned and produced by the best, as I'd already found out in the Lake Sonoma series races. Will stick around next time to share the food and beer!

    By the way, who is the Mountain Bike Mafia anyway? And what was that little white dog doing herding all the bikers?? I ran into it on the trail up near that rutty rough section with the down arrows, and it followed me and others out onto the fireroad, up the fireroad, up the singletrack after that but as soon as we started downhill it couldnt keep up. Too bad, I was starting to think I had a good riding companion.

    Oh yeah, so then I burned another 1300 calories at CCCX, mkay:
    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5333618

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    Beauty and Pain!

    The Boggs course was beautiful!

    I officially have a love-hate relationship with my full rigid SS 29er. I was in heaven on the swoopy downhills and in pure pain on the climbs. By the 4th lap, I really, really wanted a granny gear.

    I would have never gone out on a 7th lap if it weren't for the great mtbr crew cheering me on. Thank you guys!!! I loved seeing you all - Carmen, JeffH, JustJeff, Justine, Pocket, Rensho, the Law, Dan, Raf, 8Trak, Plim, JMS and on and on...

    It was also great to meet new people like Morgan and NoBalance.

    I must confess, I did wear an IPod, but I only had 1 ear phone in the whole time and the music was really low...I could hear everyone coming up behind me and pulled over to let folks pass whenever I could. I also didn't turn on the music until the 2nd lap because I knew the first lap would be a frenzy.

    The passing situation was cool 99% of the time.

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    The Results for Boggs 3 have been posted.

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...S418YouYT7s_Tw

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    I can't believe the beginner solo winner only did 6 laps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkarkark
    ...Then some dude pops up behind me and we chat, I never looked around, we worked out we're both in the same category (Geared Solo Sport) and on our 8th lap. I beg him to overtake me, but he refuses. I suggest we just try and drag each other into the finish line before the 5:30 cutoff. I never look around and never see him again...
    may have been me. are you Alex? finished 4th in solo sport? I had a similar convo with whoever finished ahead of me on that 8th and final lap (i finished 5th). I was just cruisin' at that point and was in no position to do much passing... thus the refusal and the subsequent dropping of me! anyway, if it was nice chattin with ya!! Here's a pic (doing my best ode to Gene Simmons) of the bloke you were chattin with (courtesy of rensho)...

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