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    Bike traffic ticket - contest?

    A friend of mine was recently was cited for rolling a stop sign on her bike. Her violation code was VC22450A-B
    In a car, this would be a point on one's license. On a bike, not so sure? Her insurance agent was not able to answer satisfactorily. I've never been ticketed for any moving violation, so I don't know what to advise her.

    It looks like traffic school is not an option (not eligible "if no amount appears in the "Amount Due for Traffic School" box).
    Should she:
    A) Pay the $197 and be done with it
    B) Request court appearance for Arraignment (hear charges / advisement of rights / entry of plea)
    C) Request court trail - contest citation
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    Thanks, fellow safe cyclists

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    Did she roll through the stop sign? If so, A. She should pay the fine and not do that anymore. This is rampant in my neighborhood, and it is very dangerous.

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    Around here, if you did it, you're better off paying the fine. Even though court costs are added to the ticket, you'll give up 1/2 a day going to court, unless the postpone it for another day. That being said, I was ticketed in the late '80s for speeding and reckless driving. I was doing 47 in a 35 drafting off a station wagon when we passed a motor patrolman on a Harley. He pulled me over, not the wagon. I was able to get the ticket dismissed prior to court by meeting with the county attorney. We didn't have a reckless driving law for bicycles and the patrolman had no way of exactly determining my speed since his radar would have only picked up the station wagon and I was about 3' off that car's bumper.
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    She could cite the "Idaho Stop" law and claim that she thought it had been approved.

    https://cal.streetsblog.org/2018/01/...-signs-spiked/

    (I thought it had already been approved, to tell the truth.)
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    You mean like this?:
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    It is a non moving violation. Thinking the statute is different does not excuse complying with the law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary View Post
    It is a non moving violation. Thinking the statute is different does not excuse complying with the law.


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    Make sure the ticket says it's a bicycling violation. It will not affect auto insurance rates in CA.

    With that in mind, I'd recommend just paying the fine and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Make sure the ticket says it's a bicycling violation. It will not affect auto insurance rates in CA.

    With that in mind, I'd recommend just paying the fine and be done with it.
    This is good info. I can only speak from a San Diego standpoint but if your friend has the time to appear in court, she'll probably save $100 by appearing in court and pleading no contest or even guilty with an explanation where she'd be able to say "yes I rolled through the sigh but I could clearly see there was no other traffic anywhere around".
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldawg View Post
    C) Request court trail - contest citation
    Hell yeah, make them build a trail then show them how much fun bikes are!
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    I'd go to trial. Make them prove it, as is her right. Then, in advance of the trial date I'd request a continuance...new trial date. Different places do it differently...I suppose some places try to stick it to bicyclists, but I'd be a little surprised if the DA doesn't drop the charge. I'd also be kind of surprised if the charging officer showed up for court.

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    Will not go against points

    Fight it via “trial by written declaration” I had a red light violation reduced to $15 once. No need to go to court, but if you don’t like the outcome of the trial via mail you can go to court also, basically gives you two chances to fight it.

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    I'd like to see this court "trail". Do the judges ride mountain bikes during a recess? Are there jumps, and if they mess up, do they bail(iff)?

    And this sounds like a Judge Judy episode to me- I hear she could use the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    I was about 3' off that car's bumper.
    Sounds like a good idea.
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    When I was a freshman in college. I got a ticket for rolling a stop sign on my bike. It did not go against my driving record. I forget the exact language when they explained why not. But it’s along the lines of not being a motor vehicle.I ended up paying the fine and moving on.

    10 years later it has never come up when I bought insurance or anything else automobile related.

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    Darn - I thought this thread was going to be a contest to see who can get the most traffic tickets on their bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyno View Post
    Darn - I thought this thread was going to be a contest to see who can get the most traffic tickets on their bike
    You start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyno View Post
    Darn - I thought this thread was going to be a contest to see who can get the most traffic tickets on their bike
    Wish I could help. Lord knows I've tried over the years but I'm a "one and done" rider apparently.
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    Appear before the judge

    thats what id do..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_510 View Post
    You mean like this?:
    If she got the ticket in SF, I would show them this video
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    Obviously it's a moving violation, but practically is it the right law. It's like having speed limits at Skeggs...sure they created a law, but was it implemented with safety studies or targeting one group? Maybe a bike that's moving below x mph should be able to coast through a stop sign. Or maybe not during the hours of A to B. I'd go to court just for the sake of showing how laws applied solely based in theory aren't practical, and not even followed by the legal arm as that vid shows.

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    No real advice from me but this did remind me of when I was in college and hitched a ride pretty much across town by holding the wheel well of a bus. Right as I let go the cop who I did not know was behind me the whole time pulls up and says something like "you are a real ass" then proceeds to pull away. Sometimes you get lucky...

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    I had actually never heard this term before. But then again, I don't ride on the road, ever.

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