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    Bay Area Bikepacking 101

    If youíre curious at all about bike camping and live in the Bay Area, come join us. If youíre seasoned bikepacker or enjoy touring with a mountain bike, join us.

    Our goal is to get a network of riders out for a quick overnighter outside under the stars.

    Donít know where to start?
    Donít wanna go alone?
    Donít know where to go?
    Need gear suggestions?
    Afraid of bears?

    If youíre slightly interested and answered yes to any of the questions above, hit us up.

    We have a quick overnighter planned for this weekend , February 2 from Portola Valley to Castle Rock State Park, with minimal time on the roads and maximum time on the dirt. Itís a no drop very moderate paced ride. If youíre looking for hammer session, this is not for you.

    If you canít make it this month, the next one will be on March 9, and one planned for every month in 2013.

    Hit me up with a PM if you have any questions.

    I'm looking for Sub 24 ride suggestions throughout the Bay Area too so if you have a good one to share please let us know.

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    Awesome..

    Thanks for the invite..
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    Great idea!

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    This is awesome. Can't make it this weekend but please keep posting updates.

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    OOoh! That's on point! I probably can't make any of these for a few months, but I am definitely interested.

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    interested, i'm pretty out here in so santa cruz co./no monterey co. though. I've done a lot of solo overnight missions at Henry coe, as well as multi day trips w/a buddy out there. Headlands, Tam, Bolinas Ridge to Pt Reyes is fun. Grew up in the East Bay but never extensively camped around the Diablo area, like the Rivendell guys.

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    Cool, the Marin Headlands and Henry Coe are on my list to explore this year. Was out at Coe last April and saw many possibilities. I'm in Ben Lomond, give me a PM if you're in the area riding. I'm familiar with all the Open Space trails along the Peninsula, but still trying to find my way around Santa Cruz county.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VO2 Lax View Post
    Cool, the Marin Headlands and Henry Coe are on my list to explore this year. Was out at Coe last April and saw many possibilities.
    I've bikepacked Coe quite a few times, even starting from my house in town and riding all the way around and out through Harvey Bear. It would be really cool to do a 3-day ride via Mississippi late and hit up all the good singletrack. It would be about 100 miles total, or maybe a little less. Other than Bear Fvcking Mountain, it's all very rideable.

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    I like where this thread is going! I prefer to do more of my backing and camping either on foot or in the jeep... but bikebacking is a lot of fun. Following with interest!

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    Nice! One of the few times I miss living closer to civilization (2 hrs north of SF) to join an adventure.
    I do have a suggestion for a sub-48+ hr one-way, 99% dirt bikepack adventure I've been scoping out that ends where some primo single track begins near Mendocino in Jackson State Forest.
    Looking forward to the ride reports.

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    Iíd love to go bikepacking around Henry Coe sometime. Iíd like to get just a bit more familiar with the trails out there firstóIíd hate to end up as a headline in the local paper.
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    It was a great weekend to be outside. The weather was on our side and the conditions besides a few muddy sections were prime. We tried to take pictures to share with everyone but our batteries were dead.

    For those of you that want to do the route on your own or with your buddies send me a PM and Iíll give you full route details.

    We basically parked at the Portola Valley Recreation center > rode through a section of Windy Hill > up old Alpine Road > cross into Montebello > over to the Christmas tree farm > through Long Ridge > and hooked onto Skyline to Castle Rock via the fire road next to the Gun Club. Roughly 40 miles round trip fully loaded.

    For those of you that expressed interest via PM or on this thread our next planned trip is on March 16, weather permitting. Weíll keep you posted on the location closer to the date.

    If any of you have a route suggestions or would like to guide the next trip, please feel free let us know. I'll be hitting up some of you guys via PM for route details soon.

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    Seeing that I've never been... What's the food info on a ride like these?
    collectivly as a group decide when to stop as the day progresses?
    Share a pot-luck dinner.
    Everybody fend for themsleves?

    And what is it that you bring for food on these backpacking rides?
    any hot foods? always cold food.

    Mostly fartbars ?
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    Since most of these trips are just quick overnighters we just pick campsite and starting point and make our way there.

    On a sub 24s, a sandwich or a burrito is perfect for dinner. We found that a burrito on the grill over the fire is amazing!

    On multi day trips, I would consider backpacking food if someone in the group has a stove, or plan it around where you can resupply. A bunch of bars is always good to keep around too.

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    I like this trip: Sunnyvale to Half Moon Bay State Beach via Stevens Canyon, Skeggs, and Purisima Creek. Set up camp at the hiker/biker site and head into town to eat and drink. And the sound of the surf will lull you to sleep.

    Return via Hwy 1 and Big Basin SP if I'm feeling energetic, or else return the way I came.
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    Wow Zignzag that is an intense trip. What kind of milage and time does it take to make it out to half moon bay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twindaddy View Post
    Sweet! Looking at racks for the fat bike - thought I'd just use them for beer.
    Rack is the new Track.

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    check out meetup.com you can create a group with specific interests and build an audience specifically interested in bikepacking - updates - upcoming rides and sharing is then easy. No affiliation just think its a neat idea. IM part of many bike related groups and have joined in on some great rides recently. Also have the app on the smart phone

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavemanClyde View Post
    Wow Zignzag that is an intense trip. What kind of milage and time does it take to make it out to half moon bay?
    I usually don't keep track of those things, but I'll guess 35miles and under 5 hours from downtown Sunnyvale with a lunch stop at Skylonda.
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    Henry Coe - Coit Lake Overnight


    It was a beautiful weekend to be outside! Took Nativeson's suggestion to take the Coit Road to Coit Lake. About an 11 mile ride starting from the Hunting Hollow parking lot. With close to 20lbs of gear and a fishing rod extending from my buddy's back pack, the fire road was ideal over any single track routes at Coe. Climbs were gradual, with some steep hike a bike sections. We took our time and got to camp at around 4:30pm.

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    After setting up camp it was time for some fishing. Landed a small mouth bass on my second cast, my buddy followed with a nice size Crappie. Overall we landed 4 small mouth bass and 1 crappie for the evening. Catch and release of course. This was the first time we fished while bike camping and the extra weight of the rods was well worth it. Topped the evening off with a short hike to check out the lake, a delicious pastrami sandwich and we were off to bed.

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    No fires, no stove, no coffee for the morning. After our energy bar, we packed up and started pedaling around 10:30 am. The climb out was slow and steep, steeper than on the way in but once we got to the top, it blast down the fire road which was a longer downhill on the way out than in. In N Out Burgers were on our minds so we we're on a mission to get to the car.

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    Thanks Nativeson for the ride suggestion! Definitely be back. Pics posted under my gallery.

    Next month, back to Castle Rock from Santa Clara through 4 Open Space Preserves.

    If anybody has future ride suggestions please send me a PM or share it for everyone to enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VO2 Lax View Post
    If anybody has future ride suggestions please send me a PM or share it for everyone to enjoy.
    must have missed this thread, I'm sorta reposting this from a weekend ride report thread from a few weeks back.

    Not Bay area, but kinda close. This was my first time bikepacking and was meant to be more of a trial to see how I would do. Since our only free days were friday/saturday, we had to ride some road to avoid poaching on some of the stuff saturday. The singletrack from Sacramento to Folsom and back is pretty tame, but it made for a fun trip to start and end with.

    My first time putting decent hours on the 29er, which really seemed to smooth out the small stuff and just felt like it could keep going. Far different from my 26ht which after a few hours, left me pretty tired.






    In the future, I would probably just start from folsom and eliminate all the flat singletrack from sacramento, while adding in more western states / foresthill riding. Any chance you'd want to head up here to ride? Keep bumping this thread and I'll try to make one of the rides!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twindaddy View Post
    Sweet! Looking at racks for the fat bike - thought I'd just use them for beer.
    Axiom makes one that works well. Fully adjustable to accommodate for any tire size (they were designed for 29er tires), and for an offset frame/fork all you do is just get some aluminum ferrules to mount them.
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    I did an urban weekender this past weekend. Oakland to Wildcat Beach in Pt Reyes and back with a BART assist. Embarcadero SF over the GG bridge, Headlands to Muir Beach, climb up Coastal singletrack to Pantol, over West Ridgecrest to Bolinas Ridge- dropped McCurdy to Olema Valley single track and over Stewart to Wildcat. Pretty much the same route back with Randal climb up Bolinas Ridge. Beautiful weather and fun trails, especially the Coastal singletrack. No GPS but about 6 hours saddle time each way.

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    Awesome thread! Give me a few months to build a rig.

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    Sounds Sweet!! How were the climbs geared up? If you are looking for a partner next time you do this, count me in!

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    I had about 18-20 lbs of gear- slowed the handling of my SIR9 1x9 a bit and made the steeper climbs(middle green gulch, miwok, coastal and randall) a bit more challenging but not as much as I anticipated. I need a few more overnighters to fine tune the packing before the Colorado Trail trip this summer.

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    "Any chance you'd want to head up here to ride? Keep bumping this thread and I'll try to make one of the rides!"

    To answer redmr2_man's question above.

    We would love to, but we still need to work on our mileage. 177 miles for an overnighter is massive. We know we need to get up there, but man that's impressive.

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    [QUOTE=redmr2_man;10248315]must have missed this thread, I'm sorta reposting this from a weekend ride report thread from a few weeks back.

    Not Bay area, but kinda close. This was my first time bikepacking and was meant to be more of a trial to see how I would do. Since our only free days were friday/saturday, we had to ride some road to avoid poaching on some of the stuff saturday. The singletrack from Sacramento to Folsom and back is pretty tame, but it made for a fun trip to start and end with.

    My first time putting decent hours on the 29er, which really seemed to smooth out the small stuff and just felt like it could keep going. Far different from my 26ht which after a few hours, left me pretty tired.

    In the future, I would probably just start from folsom and eliminate all the flat singletrack from sacramento, while adding in more western states / foresthill riding. Any chance you'd want to head up here to ride? Keep bumping this thread and I'll try to make one of the rides!


    Adrian,
    I'll likely be heading out for an overnighter this weekend if your interested. Leaving from my house and heading for places unknown right now. Afternoon start with some night riding. 6 hours Sat and 6 hrs Sun. Likely under 130 miles, but biggish climbing, 15-20,000'. I'll be in full AZTR mode so pretty mellow but sustained pace.

    Likely pace will be similar to this past weekends on both days.


    Let me know if your interested.

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    Let's see if we can revive this thread. I love bikepacking and wonder why I don't see more riders in the Bay Area doing this. We have an another intro ride on Saturday, December 27 if anyone is interested. It's not too crazy, park at Butano State park, ride over to Big Basin for the night, then back over to Butano. 25 miles or less each way at a super casual pace. If you want to work off that holiday dinner, come join us. Send me a PM if you're intrested, there's 3 of us so far. About 85% dirt.
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    Damn! Would love to do this but I am under house arrest for the holidays, family stuff and such.
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    Since starting this thread. I typically do one of these overnighters on a monthly basis and will try to remember to post more frequently, so maybe next month, with a little more advance notice.

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    Past trips to get you excited.

    Trips we've done in the past, some close, some far from home. All fun!

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    Stoked to find this thread. Family ties on the 27th, unfortunately. Heading into mid-pen 1-3 for an overnighter. Hope to make a trip with some of ya'all eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VO2 Lax View Post
    We have an another intro ride on Saturday, December 27 if anyone is interested.
    Crap. I should have bought myself gear instead of a trainer for Christmas. Would love to try this out, but lack any of the necessities beyond bikes and attitude. I'll start prepping for spring rides. What's the minimum one needs? Good bag and clothing, or is a tent needed too? I hear a flask is mandatory
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    Tent or bivy sac is recommend but you can also do cowboy style if you're super tough. Flask is mandatory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VO2 Lax View Post
    if you're super tough. Flask is mandatory!
    I get tougher with more flasks. Gonna start shopping this weekend.
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    Wow...what an awesome thread!! Not sure I can make the 27th but will pm for details just in case.

    I'm with twindaddy...I gotta start collecting me some bikepacking gear.

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    I am unavailable on the 27th, but I will plan on making and even hosting some future trips. I would love to get to know the mid pinesula better. Most of my trips have been from sf north, or in the sierras.

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    How did the December Trip go??

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    I'm game for some bikepacking once my knee heals up. I've been contemplating various NorCal routes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    must have missed this thread, I'm sorta reposting this from a weekend ride report thread from a few weeks back.

    Not Bay area, but kinda close. This was my first time bikepacking and was meant to be more of a trial to see how I would do. Since our only free days were friday/saturday, we had to ride some road to avoid poaching on some of the stuff saturday. The singletrack from Sacramento to Folsom and back is pretty tame, but it made for a fun trip to start and end with.

    My first time putting decent hours on the 29er, which really seemed to smooth out the small stuff and just felt like it could keep going. Far different from my 26ht which after a few hours, left me pretty tired.






    In the future, I would probably just start from folsom and eliminate all the flat singletrack from sacramento, while adding in more western states / foresthill riding. Any chance you'd want to head up here to ride? Keep bumping this thread and I'll try to make one of the rides!

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    yes, lets do it son!!!! ive got all the gear and quite a nice set of shaved legs for ya!!

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    Good times

    We had a great trip, mileage was a little shorter than I thought but it ended up being just the right amount for everyone.

    Took our time made it to Big Basin by 3pm, just in time before their general store closed. My buddy made a dash to the store to ensure his sixer and 2 bundles of wood. IT WAS COLD at camp!

    The weather for both days was perfect, sunny, just the right amount of heat while we were on the bike. Took our time again and got back to the car at around 4pm the next day, drove into Santa Cruz for an 8 course Chinese, all good!

    We're shooting for MLK weekend in January, weather permitting.
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    We did our first bike packing trip last year and it was a blast. Hopefully will do more in the future.
    Here's to sweat in your eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VO2 Lax View Post
    We're shooting for MLK weekend in January, weather permitting.
    What's the planned destination for this one?

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    Got all the gear, just need a new destination.
    I'll be following this thread.
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    Shooting for Henry Coe on MLK weekend in January. Thinking from Hunting Hollow to Coit Lake. Not too long mileage wise but still fun. This is all pending weather of course.

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    Just had a wonderful overnighter at Castlerock trail camp Saturday night with my bro-in-law. A little chilly and a raccoon hid my bag of coffee behind a downed tree and decided it was the wrong flavor I guess. Good times. Started at Montebello rd, through coal creek/ Russian ridge and then down to castle rock. Took JNT/black road back to civilization. Fun stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomikazi View Post
    Just had a wonderful overnighter at Castlerock trail camp Saturday night with my bro-in-law. A little chilly and a raccoon hid my bag of coffee behind a downed tree and decided it was the wrong flavor I guess. Good times. Started at Montebello rd, through coal creek/ Russian ridge and then down to castle rock. Took JNT/black road back to civilization. Fun stuff.
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    I am going to do an overnight next week from the south bay up to Castlerock trail camp. Just a quick leave work early and be back in the office late the next morning. Is the trail camp pretty easy to find? I have found conflicting locations on various maps.

    Let me know if anyone is interested in joining. I will probably leave my office in Sunnyvale around 2:30, and try and make it back in by 10 or 11 the next morning.

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    Trail camp is easy to find. As you head towards Castle Rock, you'll see or hear the gun range on the right. There's a fire road/service gate next to the gun range entrance, go down that road for about a mile or so and the campsites are to your right. Can't miss the gun club or the gate next to it.
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    Perfect. I think I know right where that is.

    Anyone interested in a quick overnighter during the week next week. I can be flexible on which day we go.

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    Any upcoming trips?

    Thinking ahead a bit as well, I have some time off this July and would love to get in a trip (or two) in between family vacation trips before having to get back to work. Something like a quick overnight or two max for me...just to test the waters.

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    Planning my annual trip from Nevada city to sierraville Hotsprings for May 16 to17. Leave NC at dawn in order to make it to dos Hermanos for dinner and beer. Stay at the Hotsprings for a shower and a soak. Then back to NC by late afternoon. I'm not fast but I ride basically all day. Company is welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by TubeSSnapper View Post
    Planning my annual trip from Nevada city to sierraville Hotsprings for May 16 to17. Leave NC at dawn in order to make it to dos Hermanos for dinner and beer. Stay at the Hotsprings for a shower and a soak. Then back to NC by late afternoon. I'm not fast but I ride basically all day. Company is welcome
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    I might be up for that Jeremy. I'll see how my schedule pencils out and email you in the next few days.

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    Bump.

    I'm looking to do a trip (or three) during July (vacation time) to try it out.

    Bikepacking noob here so an overnight trip would be perfect.

    I'd also be interested in recommendations for nice overnight trips for a noob.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Just got all my Revelate gear delivered, so now it's time to source supplies. Going to start small with a two night trip along local trails this summer to figure out the logistics for a longer trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    Bump.

    I'm looking to do a trip (or three) during July (vacation time) to try it out.

    Bikepacking noob here so an overnight trip would be perfect.

    I'd also be interested in recommendations for nice overnight trips for a noob.

    Thanks in advance.

    Here is one of my favorite North Bay routes, and it is very similar to the route that the Drunkcyclist crew took. Worth checking out or doing some variation of.

    https://www.strava.com/routes/356534

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brah View Post
    The guys from drunkcyclist wrote up a recent report: SF Embarcadero > Pt Reyes > Fairfax > SF

    Detailed report and pics: Golden Gate Gong Show - Drunkcyclist.com
    Quote Originally Posted by benmtb44 View Post
    Here is one of my favorite North Bay routes, and it is very similar to the route that the Drunkcyclist crew took. Worth checking out or doing some variation of.

    https://www.strava.com/routes/356534
    Thanks for that info guys. Looks like some really fun riding. I'm gonna have go check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benmtb44 View Post
    Here is one of my favorite North Bay routes, and it is very similar to the route that the Drunkcyclist crew took. Worth checking out or doing some variation of.

    https://www.strava.com/routes/356534
    I live about 45 minutes outside of SF. Where would be a good/safe place to park my car if I did this route (or maybe a shorter variation)? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    I live about 45 minutes outside of SF. Where would be a good/safe place to park my car if I did this route (or maybe a shorter variation)? Thanks.
    I like parking at Bart or CalTrain and taking the train into the city. This has worked well for me in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    I live about 45 minutes outside of SF. Where would be a good/safe place to park my car if I did this route (or maybe a shorter variation)? Thanks.
    I've done a one night bikepacking trip out to Samuel P Taylor and back which follows roughly this same route, and we parked right along Bunker Road around where Miwok Trail meets up in the route linked. This will also cut out riding through the city which tends to be undesirable IMO unless you hit it at the right time. The Embarcadero can be an absolute mess, especially if a cruise ship is coming or going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrk07 View Post
    I've done a one night bikepacking trip out to Samuel P Taylor and back which follows roughly this same route, and we parked right along Bunker Road around where Miwok Trail meets up in the route linked. This will also cut out riding through the city which tends to be undesirable IMO unless you hit it at the right time. The Embarcadero can be an absolute mess, especially if a cruise ship is coming or going.
    Quote Originally Posted by benmtb44 View Post
    I like parking at Bart or CalTrain and taking the train into the city. This has worked well for me in the past.
    Thanks for the beta. Looking forward to a trip in the (hopefully) not too distant future. I like the idea of cutting out the riding in the City. Not a fan.

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    It's been almost 2 years but maybe we can reinvigorate this thread. I've done just two bikepacking trips both on my cross bike.
    1st was a one night test ride from Fremont up to the car camping spots at the top of Mt Diablo, entirely paved roads and bike paths to Diablo but then a mix of single track and fire road up to the top. It was great but I was way overgeared with the extra load even though it was pretty light.

    2nd trip was 3 nights mostly following parts of the Bay Area Ridge trail. We started in the SF mission, over the golden gate, up into Marin headlands. Once we climbed to the top of Conzelman road we joined a dirt path and were off road until camping in Haypress Campground.

    Next day we biked up to the Bolinas Ridge which required a good bIt of road but once in the ridge it was awesome beautiful riding with spectacular views. We descended into Point Reyes, but not before I ripped my friends derailleur hanger in half in a bad attempt to un bend it. We coasted downhill into point reyes station (luckily downhill). Got some dinner and beers and camped at an exhorbitant private Campground (recommend poaching something or using a public Campground).

    Next day we took a bus to San Rafael in a hope to find a bike shop that could modify another hanger to fit my friends Rocky Mountain cross frame. Amazingly we found one and the guy was awesome. ACME bikes. Highly recommend.

    After a breakfast of fancy donuts Nextdoor and thanking our lucky stars we got the hanger replaced. We took another bus to Richmond and biked into the Berkeley hills, riding through trails along the various parks on the ridge (Wildcat Canyon Park, Tilden Regional) then dropped over the East and poached a camp spot on open space, keeping ourselves hidden.

    Last day we biked further east by road into Briones Regional park and road the trails there. Then escaped via a private entrance and through a neighborhood and out to a Bart station where we separated.

    It was an awesome trip - we saw a mountain lion on the first night and cooked with just a homemade alcohol stove. We also stated a dog howling domino effect among the hills of east Berkeley.

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    Weight on Handle Bar

    dSimon,

    Your 2nd trip sounded like an awesome adventure. That's was great you able to get the der hanger replaced and continue your trip. I have a question for you. I'm planning on doing the Idaho MTB Hot Springs Tour this summer and have never bike packed. I was wondering how the steering is affected by the added weight on the handle bar. I was thinking it might be better to get the weight down low with a low-rider front rack. What do you think?
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    I only had a sleeping bag and my down jacket on the handlebar. Because I was using drop bars I could only fit so much, so the extra weight wasn't too bad. The thing I didn't like was it was right over my hands and so it kind a got in the way but now that I've upgraded my shifters and the cable still exit right where the bags or I can drop it a little bit. I think if you can keep the weight out the front to a minimum it's fine up on the handlebars but if you really want to load up seems like a low rider I could be ideal. I avoided using any racks at all because I want to minimize Weight.

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