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    Assignment: Poison Oak - Photos and Remedies.

    I just wanted to pay tribute to the Oak of 2011. It is epic.

    Where is it and how do you deal with it?

    Post up some photos.

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    It's everywhere interesting, or on the way there.

    To deal with it, I either kill it(if it's on my property and in an inconvenient location), go around it if it won't damage anything, or just go through it. I don't purposely roll around in it - I leave that for people who get it easily. Why waste all that good oil on me?

    Saw a confused plant in a sunny location the other day - some of the leaves had a redish tinge to them.

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    Here's my gallery of PO photos: http://www.hanskellner.com/photos/20...Oak/index.html

    And my left arm has three nice patches from an adventurous evening single-track ride in Marin.
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    I got some on my arms a few weeks ago and the stuff left scars it was so nasty. The stuff is everywhere! Gotta use those mtb ninja skills on these narrow trails full of PO. Definitely ultra paranoid right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    I got some on my arms a few weeks ago and the stuff left scars it was so nasty. The stuff is everywhere! Gotta use those mtb ninja skills on these narrow trails full of PO. Definitely ultra paranoid right now.
    Excellent karma.

    It's kinda early in the year for the annual PO thread!

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    Where is it and how do you deal with it?


    I avoid anything green and I still end up w/ poison oak just about every other ride. I do wash w/ gallons of Technu, burn my clothes, and ride a different bike from my 100+ fleet

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    Extremely allergic

    I'm extremely allergic so I had to be really careful getting this closeup of the flowers.
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    A squirt bottle of the P.O. formula roundup fits nicely in a camelback Mule. Buy the concentrate and mix it strong.

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    hedge trim

    took a hike along a popular local singletrack (popular among local riders and poison oak) with gloves that went up to my elbows and hedge trimmers. Spent about two hours walking the trail and cutting back the P.O. - it was less than fun and even with the care I took, I still ended up with a light rash. Worth it - although the encroachment has begun again.

    Dang P.O.!

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    Definitely a bumper crop this year! Maybe we can export it for some $$$? There has to be a practical use for the stuff. I know horses eat it.

    Ninja skills indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amishscum View Post
    Definitely a bumper crop this year! Maybe we can export it for some $$$? There has to be a practical use for the stuff. I know horses eat it.

    Ninja skills indeed.
    Job Description: Poison Oak harvester. Applicant must be willing to cut down acres of poison oak. Burning excess growth and juicing the pulp may be required as well.

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    Burning would not be good. Heard of someone as allergic as I am who was unknowingly standing in the smoke of a campfire that contained some poison oak. He almost died...

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    Wilder Ranch. Got this while racing Xterra Wilder Ranch a few weeks ago. I knew I rolled through it and washed with Technu afterwards, but missed this part of my arm, which then transferred to my torso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillatri View Post
    Wilder Ranch. Got this while racing Xterra Wilder Ranch a few weeks ago. I knew I rolled through it and washed with Technu afterwards, but missed this part of my arm, which then transferred to my torso.



    Wow...I've had PO a couple of times now, most recently whiped out in Ft. Ord and landed in it, but that is just nasty. I'd think about just removing the arm. It would probably feel better.
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    Big ol' thread on it in General.

    But I'll reiterate. ZANFEL.

    And now, heeeeeeere's Johnny Freeride for ZANFEL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    Job Description: Poison Oak harvester. Applicant must be willing to cut down acres of poison oak. Burning excess growth and juicing the pulp may be required as well.
    I'm more of a managerial type.

    Oh my, those arm pics are NASTY! Never had it that bad, can't even imagine how uncomfortable that must be.
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    I have had a doctor (who rides) and a friend who is a PG&E lineman both recommend cheap beer as a preventative topical treatment, applied after first contact with PO.

    It has worked for me but I have to explain to my beer connoisseur friends what that six pack of Natty Ice is doing in my fridge.

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    I used to get it every spring, but I've found a trick that keeps me from getting any real breakouts.

    I use a thick lotion on any exposed skin (not my face) prior to the ride. This really works for me, even when I know I hit a leaf or a stem of Poison Oak, I don't get any real breakouts. It seem to keep the oils from the plant from penetrating you skin and simply washes off after the ride.

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    This is the one I usually use.


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    i started keeping alcohol wipes in my car for a nice wipe down afterwards.

    if i start from my house, it's tecnu bath outside before i do anything.

    i did manage to get it on my scalp a few weeks ago somehow.

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    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Great advice so far. Heavy cream and beer!

    The best protection really is skin coverage which means jackets and leg warmers. But as the temperature rises and we all ride with shorts and jerseys only, all hell breaks loose. This is really prime time for oak as we're getting our first hot rides!

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    no matter what time of the year it is, I just ride in long sleeves all the time. When PO gets really nasty, I spray my legs with powdered deodorant (like Arrid Extra Dry) - the oil will stick to the powder instead of your legs and it makes it easier to wash later.

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    Here's some

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    laundry detergent – powder form – is the cheap way to get the oil of your skin. A good strong scrub on any exposed area will do as well as Technu or Zanfel. It's a trick used by people doing orienteering races, and they come across a lot of poison oak.

    The poisonous oil contaminates everything it comes in contact with, if you collect some oil on your clothing and letter touch it your skin will be contaminated to. Touch contaminated fabric then touch you face and you'll get a rash on your face. So get read of all your clothe that might have touch poison oak before you wash your skin. I've see people contaminating their car seats, their sofa and their bed by not changing right after being exposed.

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    Man that picture of the arm is nasty, thats some serious PO outbreakage right there, I can't imagine how bad that must suck, condolences

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillatri View Post
    Wilder Ranch. Got this while racing Xterra Wilder Ranch a few weeks ago. I knew I rolled through it and washed with Technu afterwards, but missed this part of my arm, which then transferred to my torso.
    Dang, cvillatri, that's nasty! Hope the healing went well.

    Was hiking in Big Sur Memorial Day weekend and there was poison oak EVERYWHERE! I'm sure there were plenty of casual hikers who woke up with an itch or two from it.

    Here's a PO pic from Demo last year.
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    Occasionally I'll see guys doing work in the hills above 101 just north of the GG Bridge, on the outskirts of the headlands. The poison oak is really thick as it's unmaintained land. They work in full hazmat suits, like straight out of Outbreak.

    Took me a while to figure out why they were wearing the suits but I'm pretty sure its PO. I see them up there a few times a year on my way to work.

    I also have some friends who burned the twigs in the winter when they just looked like dead sticks. They all ended up in the hospital.
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    I knew I had matured as a mountain biker when I developed the skill to not only maneuver tight singletrack at 25 mph but also detect and dodge stalks of poison oak at that speed.

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    I dislike P.O. I get a few times a year. Here is a pic from last year when I ended up crashing into a some of it..
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    clobetasol propionate ftw
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    Try this stuff. It's been working pretty good for me the last year.
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    Cold water (preferably from a hose outside your house) and dish soap. I am highly allergic and this works for me if I know I have been exposed.

    Ninja dodging is the best preventative measure.

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    There is an under-appreciated gain to the pain of having Poison Oak.

    The Oakgasm
    The orgasmic feeling one experiences when hot water in the shower first hits the poison oak on your skin
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oakgasm

    This is no joke, it's true...don't knock it if you haven't had the opportunity to try it.

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    Mmmmmmmmmm .... nothing better than cutting out a new trail and looking around to realize you are knee deep in this ****.



    Mineral Spirits for the win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanedawg View Post
    Try this stuff. It's been working pretty good for me the last year.
    Homeopathy? I am not sure my mental placebo skills are strong enough to prevent an oak outbreak.

    Regular alcohol wipes post ride seem to help; I know I had some minor contact, but so far, so good.
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    The angle of this picture doesn't do this justice.
    This thing pretty much sticks out right at face level.
    I was riding through there the other evening and wasn't wearing my helmet light, just had a bar light.
    Came about an inch from thwacking me in the face.
    The stuff is everywhere.
    About 1/2 mile before this shot, there is a grove of the stuff about 100 yards by 50 yards. Nasty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_C View Post
    There is an under-appreciated gain to the pain of having Poison Oak.

    The Oakgasm
    The orgasmic feeling one experiences when hot water in the shower first hits the poison oak on your skin
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oakgasm

    This is no joke, it's true...don't knock it if you haven't had the opportunity to try it.
    Ha! That's what it's called! It makes having PO enjoyable for a minute.

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    Everything listed so far does not work nearly as well as THIS:



    Ivy-Dry® Super is a drying agent containing four active ingredients to control itching; zinc acetate, benzyl alcohol, camphor and menthol. The Spray applicator disperses the product evenly on the skin eliminating physical contact with the wound, reducing the chance of spreading or recontamination.
    You would have to buy three or four different Poison Ivy products to get the same ingredients found in one bottle of Ivy-Dry® Super.

    WalGreens, CVS, Ride-Aid, USA Drug carry it..... it's the best, trust me. 3-4 days and its as good as gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_C View Post
    There is an under-appreciated gain to the pain of having Poison Oak.

    The Oakgasm
    The orgasmic feeling one experiences when hot water in the shower first hits the poison oak on your skin
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oakgasm

    This is no joke, it's true...don't knock it if you haven't had the opportunity to try it.
    Woo! Yes indeed, it is the one mitigating aspect of the Oak! Fun!

    Two critical things about, um, enjoying the hot water:

    1: It's ONLY FOR AFTER THE BLISTERS COME!!! And for AFTER you've quarantined and washed everything the oils might be on. Using the hot water when the oil is still on your skin opens your pores and makes it oh so much worse. The hottub after the ride is so tempting, but the stuff floats on the water... I got it all over my torso from that.

    2: Running the hot water over the blisters in the shower is AWESOME, and seems like it overloads my nerves so I can sleep for a few hours. The problem is I got used to the heat and kept turning it up... 'til I gave myself a very mild scald/burn about like a sunburn.
    ... which then commenced to itch while it healed. Felt like it kept the itching going about a week longer than usual.

    So you still have to be a little attentive while enjoying the hot water. Wheeee!!!

    +1 vote for Tecnu and cool water to wash, and to never touch anything that looks like a plant out in the woods, and to never ever touch your junk when peeing out in the woods.
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    Yeah, Chris. I've had it this bad as well. The draining pus (*****?) fluid is the worst. It's a 2-week healing process and leaves scars as if you were a burn victim. The devil weed can go back to hell as far as I'm concerned...

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    Technu Extreme is the best i have every used. Keep in in car for after the ride and then go home and
    shower with it. I keep bottle in Shower and 1 or 2 in the car. Rock on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    And now, heeeeeeere's Johnny Freeride for ZANFEL!!!
    It may work but it's way overpriced for something that's just a cleanser. I've methodically tested and researched the various PO cleaning products and found that any good cleanser that breaks down oils will do the trick. As mentioned by others, alcohol wipes and cleaning with Tecnu is a great combination. Not using hot water, which opens the pores and let's in the oil and poison, is also important.

    The "poison" part of Poison Oak, Sumac, and Ivy is carried by the oils of the plant. If you can remove the oil you can remove the poison. And these various products don't neutralize the poison. They just break down the oil, which can then be washed away along with the poison. So even dish soap or hand soap will do in a pinch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pico View Post
    Technu Extreme is the best i have every used. Keep in in car for after the ride and then go home and
    shower with it. I keep bottle in Shower and 1 or 2 in the car. Rock on
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    Technu Extreme - is it another homeopathic remedy? I am highly skeptical of that whole field - had there been any proof that it actually does something? Any other ingredients there?

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    Tecnu

    Tecnu is available at Walgreens and just wash with it right after a ride. Prior to finding this stuff I had to stay out of the woods for years or would end up in the ER. It was developed for biological warefare or something like that and is amazing.

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    Amazon has a decent deal on Zanfel, Technu extreme, and Ivy Block. All three for 54.09.

    http://www.amazon.com/Zanfel-Wash-Po.../dp/B000R99ZUA

    For clearing poison oak Tyvek suits are worth using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanskellner View Post
    It may work but it's way overpriced for something that's just a cleanser. I've methodically tested and researched the various PO cleaning products and found that any good cleanser that breaks down oils will do the trick. As mentioned by others, alcohol wipes and cleaning with Tecnu is a great combination. Not using hot water, which opens the pores and let's in the oil and poison, is also important.

    The "poison" part of Poison Oak, Sumac, and Ivy is carried by the oils of the plant. If you can remove the oil you can remove the poison. And these various products don't neutralize the poison. They just break down the oil, which can then be washed away along with the poison. So even dish soap or hand soap will do in a pinch.
    Agreed.

    I've gone through 3 tubes of Zanfel and it is no better than Dawn or tide.

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    No one has mentioned the true cure for PO. All that has been mentioned are how to spot it, avoid it, and clean it.

    Once it gets under your bloodstream it is game over for these cleansing stuff

    The cure is steroids - steroid shot, steroid pills, and steroid cream. All are prescription only.

    My choice is steroid cream. I have a year's supply and I just dab it here and there to prevent the flare-ups. I used to suffer 4-6 weeks on a flare-up. Steroids have side effects but the cream is the least intrusive.

    My other advice is do not scratch. Ever! And keep it away from the sun.

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    Bam! Cheap and works well for post ride cleaning. Dries out your skin since it is laundry detergent soap but works wonders.


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    For me, dish soap and cold water within hours of exposure keeps it off me. The only time I get a rash is when I don't know I've touched it and didn't bother with a cold soapy shower. Once it looks like it's going to be a real rash, I'll scrub with Tecnu.

    Not only is there a lot this year, some of the leaves are HUGE.

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