• 11-30-2012
    bassn
    Anyone from TSP interested in Oat Hill Mine?
    I plan on hitting up Oat Hill Mine on Saturday and if anyone is interested please join in. From what I understand it will be a 20 mile ride that is somewhat technical (feel like a 30 mile ride). I've been wanting to hit it up for a while now and with all the rain we've had, what better time. I hear it holds up extremely well in the rain.

    Alan
  • 11-30-2012
    IAmHolland
    sadly can't ride on Sat this weekend.
  • 11-30-2012
    tosa
    Interested, but not in the rain :(
  • 11-30-2012
    anomaly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bassn View Post
    I plan on hitting up Oat Hill Mine on Saturday and if anyone is interested please join in. From what I understand it will be a 20 mile ride that is somewhat technical (feel like a 30 mile ride). I've been wanting to hit it up for a while now and with all the rain we've had, what better time. I hear it holds up extremely well in the rain.

    Alan

    Be aware that area got 6-9" of rain yesterday and should have another 6" by this point tomorrow. You might be riding in a monsoon.
  • 11-30-2012
    Axe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bassn View Post
    I plan on hitting up Oat Hill Mine on Saturday and if anyone is interested please join in. From what I understand it will be a 20 mile ride that is somewhat technical (feel like a 30 mile ride). I've been wanting to hit it up for a while now and with all the rain we've had, what better time. I hear it holds up extremely well in the rain.

    Alan

    Back part of it, does not hold as well, and climb also have quite a few greasy spots - but it is doable even in a mansoon, if you are into that kind of stuff. Carry chain lube.

    I just disassembled both of my bikes that are good for that trail. I would not want to climb it in my 1x10 hardtail, I am not strong enough. Though it sounds tempting..

    Next weekend should be much, much better.
  • 11-30-2012
    IAmHolland
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    I just disassembled both of my bikes that are good for that trail.

    Ah, right, it's that time of year. I should do the same, been meaning to rebuild my shock too.
  • 11-30-2012
    bassn
    Good info. Since some traveling is involved, I'll wait for another weekend. I'm just eager to get out and ride :(. Maybe El Sereno???
  • 11-30-2012
    Axe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bassn View Post
    Good info. Since some traveling is involved, I'll wait for another weekend. I'm just eager to get out and ride :(. Maybe El Sereno???

    This weekend I will opt for a gym visit, and maybe a neighborhood run.

    Oat Hill next weekend sounds very good, have not been there in a while.
  • 11-30-2012
    mboldt
    I'm in for El Sereno
  • 11-30-2012
    tosa
    I'll pass on any rides this weekend (rain), but hopefully next weekend the sun's out. This weekend I'm gonna try to get past 15min of P90x yoga. It's a tough workout ...to get through it without getting bored :D. But my little buddy makes it fun when he jumps on my back for a horsey ride while I'm doing the up or down dog pose
  • 11-30-2012
    mboldt
    Just got an update from the open space authority that Rancho Canada del Oro is open. (Sierra Vista is closed)
  • 11-30-2012
    Dion
    I think I'm going to hit up Nisene tomorrow. Just me, myself and I.
  • 11-30-2012
    IAmHolland
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
    Just got an update from the open space authority that Rancho Canada del Oro is open. (Sierra Vista is closed)

    cool. i may try to hit it, if i can find a time slot tomorrow.
  • 12-01-2012
    squashyo
    Hey bassn,

    Oat Hill Mine is seriously fun but not day trip fun. I ride there every year but do it as part of a weekend gettaway because Calistoga is a great town. If you have family (I forget), they will love the area...for you, sneak out early and explore OHM and get in a sweet run which leaves you lots of time to hang out later. If you are extra lucky, sneak out again early the next day and take the 30 minute drive over the hill to Annadel for a longer, kick ass ride (ping your MTBR brethoren for a guide)...this way you can bag two GREAT MTB destinations in one road trip.

    Also, if you are looking to get away during wet times, Monterey is only an hour and hosts some pretty good single track at Fort Ord and elsewhere that holds up in the rain...find a guide and you can sample some really good stuff...so I am told).
  • 12-01-2012
    bassn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Hey bassn,

    Oat Hill Mine is seriously fun but not day trip fun. I ride there every year but do it as part of a weekend gettaway because Calistoga is a great town. If you have family (I forget), they will love the area...for you, sneak out early and explore OHM and get in a sweet run which leaves you lots of time to hang out later. If you are extra lucky, sneak out again early the next day and take the 30 minute drive over the hill to Annadel for a longer, kick ass ride (ping your MTBR brethoren for a guide)...this way you can bag two GREAT MTB destinations in one road trip.

    Also, if you are looking to get away during wet times, Monterey is only an hour and hosts some pretty good single track at Fort Ord and elsewhere that holds up in the rain...find a guide and you can sample some really good stuff...so I am told).

    Great suggestion squashyo! Funny thing, my wife mentioned the same thing to me last night about a weekend get away to Calistoga. She would have no problem hanging out with the kids for a few hours while I play in the dirt :). Plus, as you mention, I will also hit Annadel up and remove two items off my bucket list. Thanks for the suggestion.

    I will most likely go ride Mission Peak (Stanford side) today and just do a few up and downs for some exercise. Maybe I'll post up a thread looking for some suggestions, or a guide to show me around Fort Ord tomorrow. The chances of rain is definitely a lot lower tomorrow than today.
  • 12-01-2012
    abeckstead
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    Man whoever told you OHM was "somewhat" technical must be a badass! Lol that trail is an ass kicker especially if you do ALL of it. I rode the Aetna springs side to holms place this afternoon... Lots of water flow. Had a great ride and even came across a couple hiking at the top. They said I was crazy :D lol

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  • 12-01-2012
    abeckstead
    Oh and I was gonna say if you make trip up with the wife. I'd go to Boggs instead of Annadel after riding OHM. Annadel is rocks and less tech and torture than OHM. Boggs is a complete contrast to both... miles of smooth badass single track through the forest. :D
  • 12-01-2012
    rho
    MMmmm oats and mines.

    Great place! I'd describe it as "somewhat Tech" with the condition that it is better to first ride when it is dry.

    The gnar gnar above Santa Barbara on the front side trails is much more........... uhm. Interesting.

    Extra dots added for the sake of adding them!
  • 12-01-2012
    IAmHolland
    Personally, I'd skip OHM and ride Annadel and Bogg's, if making a trip. :) I've been meaning to go to Bogg's. That's what I hear, sweet sweet forest ride. I've been to Annadel a few times, always good and more my type of place than OHM. If trekking up and staying over a weekend, I'd do Tamarancho, Annadel, and Bogg's.
  • 12-01-2012
    Broncstad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abeckstead View Post
    Man whoever told you OHM was "somewhat" technical must be a badass! Lol that trail is an ass kicker especially if you do ALL of it. I rode the Aetna springs side to holms place this afternoon... Lots of water flow. Had a great ride and even came across a couple hiking at the top. They said I was crazy :D lol

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    These are all great shots of the back side. The entire trail holds up fine to all weather conditions. The back side actually has more chunk. The only time riding sucks up there when all the flowing water freezes and ice-sickles form on the water falls. Ice riding!! Sometimes we get those rare extreme lows. Can't wait to get up there tomorrow.
  • 12-02-2012
    squashyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abeckstead View Post
    Oh and I was gonna say if you make trip up with the wife. I'd go to Boggs instead of Annadel after riding OHM. Annadel is rocks and less tech and torture than OHM. Boggs is a complete contrast to both... miles of smooth badass single track through the forest. :D

    Maybe I need to get back to Boggs but my recollection was that it had smooth flowy single track but not much else...just kinda that same thing all day. My buddy who lives up there told me the same thing. Also, Boggs is another 2 hours driving round trip if I am not mistaken.

    Annadel has a bit of everything IMHO. Yes, some chunk but also some super fast flowy dirt ST (Lawndale rocks!!!). Lacks in big hits and stunts but I do recall some nice booters here and there. And it's only 30 mins from wife and kids. You can ride ST there for hours and not get the whole park in.

    I'd stick with OHM because it's a classic, it's in town, it's scenic as all heck, and a type of riding you won't see anywhere else around these parts...I'd stick with Annadel because it kicks ass, is diverse, is close. Once you bag these, go hit Boggs on the next road trip...I'll join you as I wouldn't mind giving Boggs another shot.
  • 12-02-2012
    JMac47
    OatHill Rocks! Quite literally as you found out!!:)
  • 12-06-2012
    Christieland
    For the Oat Hill guys:

    Can you ride up Oat Hill Mine Trail, left onto Palisades trail, and loop it out using highway 29? Which would be the most fun variant of this?

    We ride Annadel a lot and have never ridden OHM, thought this might be a good weekend to check it out.
  • 12-06-2012
    Broncstad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Christieland View Post
    For the Oat Hill guys:

    Can you ride up Oat Hill Mine Trail, left onto Palisades trail, and loop it out using highway 29? Which would be the most fun variant of this?

    We ride Annadel a lot and have never ridden OHM, thought this might be a good weekend to check it out.

    This wouldn't be much fun because palisades trail is lots of hiking and if you've never been to oat hill, you'll probably be hiking most of the last 1/2 mile until palisades trail junction. As a first timer this trail is best ridden from Calistoga to Aetna springs and back. Lots of hikers on the weekends on stoga side.
  • 12-06-2012
    presslab
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Broncstad View Post
    The only time riding sucks up there when all the flowing water freezes and ice-sickles form on the water falls. Ice riding!!

    Like this?



    Or like this? Yes, that's me on ice.



    Night ride tonight.
    Love Hurts: Oat Hill Mine Night Ride - Annadel Mountain Biking Group (Santa Rosa, CA) - Meetup
  • 12-06-2012
    Broncstad
    Yes. Exactly like that.

    I wish I could have made that night ride. I have to do it next time.
  • 12-07-2012
    AmericanTemplar
    Anyone riding OHM on Saturday? I think that I might go if anyone wants to meet up!

    Oh and Broncstad, I talked to you one day at the OHM trailhead. Told you that I recognized your bike and liked the photos that you post on here. The two guys that I was riding with that day are the ones who organized that night ride.
  • 12-07-2012
    AmericanTemplar
  • 12-07-2012
    shredchic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Maybe I need to get back to Boggs but my recollection was that it had smooth flowy single track but not much else...just kinda that same thing all day.

    Boggs is an hour from Calistoga, not 2. And sadly, it is just miles and miles of flowy singletrack. For a bay area rider, I know you would probably be bored without the miles and miles of fireroad climbing. ;)

    It's got some rocks, try Gails and Houghton Creek. It's got some steeps, try Kevin's and Charlie's. It's got some trails that look like no one has been on except the mountain lions... It's good stuff! Yes, it's a long drive and not as exciting as say, Tahoe.
  • 12-07-2012
    JMac47
    Yeah!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shredchic View Post
    Boggs is an hour from Calistoga, not 2. And sadly, it is just miles and miles of flowy singletrack. For a bay area rider, I know you would probably be bored without the miles and miles of fireroad climbing. ;)

    It's got some rocks, try Gails and Houghton Creek. It's got some steeps, try Kevin's and Charlie's. It's got some trails that look like no one has been on except the mountain lions... It's good stuff! Yes, it's a long drive and not as exciting as say, Tahoe.

    And they(he/she/them) could finish the afternoon, or stay the night there, back in downtown Calistoga if they wanted too.
  • 12-07-2012
    squashyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shredchic View Post
    Boggs is an hour from Calistoga, not 2. And sadly, it is just miles and miles of flowy singletrack. For a bay area rider, I know you would probably be bored without the miles and miles of fireroad climbing. ;)

    It's got some rocks, try Gails and Houghton Creek. It's got some steeps, try Kevin's and Charlie's. It's got some trails that look like no one has been on except the mountain lions... It's good stuff! Yes, it's a long drive and not as exciting as say, Tahoe.

    1 hour to get there, one hour to get back...2 hours. I've got miles and miles of long flowy ST right here in the Bay (secret stash...shhhh...someday we'll showya) It's a long way to go for trails that didn't exactly wow...they were good but not destination good....I think....it has been a while.
  • 12-08-2012
    Broncstad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AmericanTemplar View Post
    Anyone riding OHM on Saturday? I think that I might go if anyone wants to meet up!

    Oh and Broncstad, I talked to you one day at the OHM trailhead. Told you that I recognized your bike and liked the photos that you post on here. The two guys that I was riding with that day are the ones who organized that night ride.

    I remember bro. I usually ride oat hill 3 times a week this time of year, but rarely on the weekends. I'll be there Monday.
  • 12-08-2012
    JMac47
    Vaccant....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Broncstad View Post
    I remember bro. I usually ride oat hill 3 times a week this time of year, but rarely on the weekends. I'll be there Monday.

    Only 1 pr of hikers siting off to side on way up during first part of AMTBG ride. 4 riders partway down from camp heading to Aetna as we were on our way back out from dropping to there. No one else except a couple starting their hike at the very bottom end of ride. Fantastic conditions up there. :cool:
  • 12-10-2012
    AmericanTemplar
    Indeed it was! Good riding and nice meeting you! - G
  • 12-10-2012
    Christieland
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    First time to Oat Hill Saturday. It was very cute, so MTBR, when we were coming down, two or three guys passed us, huge smiles on their faces, asking us if we were part of the Annadel Meetup Group ride. "We're from SAN JOSE!" they said.

    We had a lot of fun testing our skills on that trail. After you get to the saddle, I was pretty happy to clean some stuff after that, but then there was this one huge rock formation thing that just kind of blew my mind. Quite a bit of hiking for me, but always fun to try a section, hike a little, try another.

    We got to Holm's Place, and went further on and a little bit past a kind of secretly menacing spring crossing the trail. We didn't know if the trail would dump us DOWN to Aetna Springs Road, we were kind of done climbing at that point, so we turned around. I really wish we'd gone all the way - what's the rest of the trail like to Aetna? Up? Down? Chunky?

    So pretty up there. Crossing back over the spring, my bike had to tell me twice.
  • 12-10-2012
    AmericanTemplar
    I was with the Annadel group and we passed the SJ group as well. I'm surprised our paths didn't cross either. You must've started the ride after us and turned around when we were closer to Aetna Springs.

    The ride is beautiful! I think that that was my fourth time doing it now. It was my second time riding all the way to Aetna. I really like that side of the trail. It's more rolling and there are lots of technical sections that are more technically challenging than everything preceding the saddle but less difficult than the section near Holm's Place, where I mostly hike a bike.

    JMac47 led us on some of the single track stuff on the way down and it scared the hell out of me. As one of the other riders described it, it was like riding a really long twisty skinny. Was cool to see what else was up there though. I've also ridden The Rollers trail off of OHM and it's twisty and fast with some big banked turns and a couple of ladders.
  • 12-10-2012
    abeckstead
    Aetna springs trail head to Holms place portion is about 1000' vert with plenty of chunk. Although it doesnt "feel" as hard because you arent climbing it all in one shot like above the saddle on OHM. Calistoga to Holms is 2200' vert. If you do it all in/out its 17mi. It's an ass kicker but its f'n rad.

    We did an epic ride in the area Sunday it was badass! even though I had 5 flat tires! lol
  • 12-10-2012
    tjwebber17
    We were there couple of weeks ago and it was a blast.
  • 12-10-2012
    tjwebber17
  • 12-11-2012
    Broncstad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tjwebber17 View Post

    Very very nice. I might have seen you guys on your way down. I was on my way up for the second time to hit the rollers.
  • 12-11-2012
    JMac47
    Arrgh! The Rollers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Broncstad View Post
    Very very nice. I might have seen you guys on your way down. I was on my way up for the second time to hit the rollers.

    That segment was mentioned many times on our outing. :skep:
  • 12-11-2012
    JMac47
    Yikes!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Christieland View Post
    First time to Oat Hill Saturday. It was very cute, so MTBR, when we were coming down, two or three guys passed us, huge smiles on their faces, asking us if we were part of the Annadel Meetup Group ride. "We're from SAN JOSE!" they said.

    We had a lot of fun testing our skills on that trail. After you get to the saddle, I was pretty happy to clean some stuff after that, but then there was this one huge rock formation thing that just kind of blew my mind. Quite a bit of hiking for me, but always fun to try a section, hike a little, try another.

    We got to Holm's Place, and went further on and a little bit past a kind of secretly menacing spring crossing the trail. We didn't know if the trail would dump us DOWN to Aetna Springs Road, we were kind of done climbing at that point, so we turned around. I really wish we'd gone all the way - what's the rest of the trail like to Aetna? Up? Down? Chunky?

    So pretty up there. Crossing back over the spring, my bike had to tell me twice.

    I think I have that same helmet with similar markings too! I trust you headed to replace it before next ride.:cool:

    As for the rest of the trail to Aetna, I'd have to say similar but different. I really like that side. Except for the last rocky section (I got stalled in a hole....) before the drop to the turn around at Aetna, it's pretty tech flowy, both going and coming back out. You'll be worked by then tho and abit more as you crawl back out up to the saddle at Holms camp.
  • 12-11-2012
    raleigh5
    is the entire Palisades Trail open only to hikers? or are bikes allowed on the Holmes Place side of the trail?
  • 12-11-2012
    JMac47
    Ahh, screen name makes sense now.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AmericanTemplar View Post
    I was with the Annadel group and we passed the SJ group as well. I'm surprised our paths didn't cross either. You must've started the ride after us and turned around when we were closer to Aetna Springs.

    The ride is beautiful! I think that that was my fourth time doing it now. It was my second time riding all the way to Aetna. I really like that side of the trail. It's more rolling and there are lots of technical sections that are more technically challenging than everything preceding the saddle but less difficult than the section near Holm's Place, where I mostly hike a bike.

    JMac47 led us on some of the single track stuff on the way down and it scared the hell out of me. As one of the other riders described it, it was like riding a really long twisty skinny. Was cool to see what else was up there though. I've also ridden The Rollers trail off of OHM and it's twisty and fast with some big banked turns and a couple of ladders.

    Yeah that was a good ride. Sorry about the singletrack dirt skinnys we finished on.:nono: Forgot about you "high center of gravity" guys. Can you believe Nathan doing it without a rear brake. Kids.....

    I did post a few pix to the AMBG site but they didn't load for some reason. Let's keep in touch for future rides, with no surprise route diversions. You can lead us on the "Rollers" route next time. You can PM me on here.

    Jmac
  • 04-18-2014
    bassn
    From the dead...

    How safe is Hwy 29 from Palisades trail back to start of Oat Mine?
  • 04-19-2014
    J-Flo
    Palisades Trail becomes Table Rock trail before it reaches the 29, at Robt. Louis Stevenson park, way up near the crest. I have not ridden a bike on that part of the 29 and do not think it would be safe to ride it back down to the OHM trail head. The road winds a lot, has switchbacks and is steep and cars descending tend to go fast, cut corners, and drive in the shoulder, which is not very wide in many places. I've noticed a few people on bikes looking very uncomfortable getting buzzed by cars.
  • 04-19-2014
    JMac47
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bassn View Post
    From the dead...

    How safe is Hwy 29 from Palisades trail back to start of Oat Mine?

    Why that way/direction? From what I understand, the regular route is from RLS lot and finish on OHM Trail.
  • 04-21-2014
    twindaddy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jfloren View Post
    The road winds a lot, has switchbacks and is steep and cars descending tend to go fast, cut corners, and drive in the shoulder, which is not very wide in many places. I've noticed a few people on bikes looking very uncomfortable getting buzzed by cars.

    Not to mention the abundance of big pickups and SUVs with those side view mirrors that extend a good 18" out at just about biker-head level. Ouch. I wouldn't try it.
  • 04-21-2014
    jibmaster
    The only way is to take The Old Toll Road.
    Only a few minutes on 29 to the junction. Most of the way, I can keep up with traffic.
    If you ride fast enough, only a few cars will pass you.
    Make sure the coast is clear behind and own the lane on the corners.
    Still scary though.
  • 04-22-2014
    abeckstead
    Anyone from TSP interested in Oat Hill Mine?
    I commute over st Helena everyday... Anybody who chooses to ride that road must have a death wish. I would be more afraid of cars than trucks... My eclipse can take those corners a good 15-20mph faster than my f350. Lots of road rage over that hill... The top five dumbest things I have ever witnessed a driver do... Have been on that mountain! :eek: