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    Annadel conditions update

    From the friendly ranger:

    Greetings Annadel Lovers,

    Here is the latest information we have about Annadel Trails. There are many trails we do not have reports for; weather has been too unsafe for staff and volunteers to inspect trails this week.

    Please be safe, be respectful of fragile conditions, don't make a go-around, and let us know what you find and exactly where. We recommend that bikes and horses continue to let the park rest until we have several consecutive days of DRY weather. We anticipate opening Channel Drive to vehicular traffic on Saturday morning if conditions allow.

    TWO QUARRY CLOSED TO ALL USERS between Warren Richardson and the upper fire road at Frey Canyon Overlook. Please do not attempt this trail. There may be more dangerous mud slides and massive trees falling. Please do not attempt to go see the waterfall due to the dangerous conditions. Staff and volunteers are going to work on this on Saturday, so please do not impede their efforts. The trail will most likely remain closed into next week.

    SOUTH BURMA CLOSED TO ALL USERS due to limbs: Trails Council will most likely get this cleared on Monday.

    NORTH BURMA CLOSED TO ALL USERS between Channel Drive and Live Oak Trails due to the monster boulder. The 5" of trail on the crumbly downhill side may be worsened and eroded even more. Please do not attempt this trail.

    MARSH TRAIL CLOSED TO HORSES between the bathroom and Buick Meadow. The previosly reported large fir tree has not been cleared.

    TRAIL CROSSING at TWO QUARRY and MARSH intersection is very deep and fragile. Please do not go around into the meadow. Water is reported to be as much as waist deep. The bathroom remains locked due to run-off. Staff will inspect it Saturday afternoon.

    SPILLWAY CROSSING at Lake Ilsanjo may be as much as a foot deep, so the crossing on Spring Creek will be wide, deep and swift as well.
    The lake valve is open full right now. Staff will monitor the lake levels and close the valve when appropriate according to conditions.

    CANYON TRAIL has been reported this afternoon as worsened erosion above the hair-pin turn, as much as two feet wide and deep. Please use caution! A go-around was also reported on Canyon Trail: please do not contribute to widening trails with go-arounds. ATP and Trails Council will be hard at work Sunday on Canyon.

    Thank you for your detailed reporting!!

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    Photo courtesey of Big Fil...better bring a snorkel
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    A waterfall, huh?

    Hmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    A waterfall, huh?

    Hmmmm.
    Update: Tree was cleared today you can go see the waterfall tomorrow if your flubug has passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Photo courtesey of Big Fil...better bring a snorkel
    Wheres this?
    Parking on Channel dr?


    Sent from somewhere out there.
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    At the boat ramp parking lot

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    Any update on trail conditions now that we've had a few nicer days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcnoordsij View Post
    Any update on trail conditions now that we've had a few nicer days?
    Pretty sloppy as of last weekend. This coming deluge will no doubt be adding to it..
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    Has anyone been over on the Lawndale / Schultz / Ridge side lately? I know Ridge had a bunch of downed trees a while back.

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    See post #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    See post #2
    Oh, I thought that was somewhere else but now I get where it is. Yikes.

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    I haven't been to Annadel in a couple weeks. That place is always muddy during the Winter; there are a few trails there that drain well but, I'd give it a while. We've been getting a lot of rain, and more is on the way The only way to really know is...go check it out and post up some pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT79 View Post
    Oh, I thought that was somewhere else but now I get where it is. Yikes.
    If you're still in the Valley of the Moon it should be a pretty good rain gauge to what's happening on the East side of the park. They got swamped Sunday and yesterday.
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    Any updates from the locals? Have tomorrow off and thinking to drive up to Annadel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Any updates from the locals? Have tomorrow off and thinking to drive up to Annadel.
    If I were you I probably wouldn't drive all that far to check it out. I will go poke around in the next few days (because I live 10-15 minutes away) and report back with pictures.

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    I emailed the park volunteer and here's the current status. I stayed away and hit Rockville instead.

    It’s beautiful here today! The trails are thrashed. This mornings’ latest news is that the Channel Drive gate is open as of 9:45 AM. The big fir tree on Two Quarry was cleared yesterday by volunteers. There are large trees down on South Burma (might be cleared today, Friday), two on Ridge, two on Marsh between Buick Meadow and the backcountry bathroom. Ridge Trail will continue to be extremely muddy and damaged up near the Marsh. IMBA riding etiquette would say either ride THROUGH the mud or avoid the trail entirely to preserve it. Canyon Trail has become dangerously rutted with erosion above the hair-pin turn, please use caution. Erosion ruts are also deep along Richardson as you head down to the lake from South Burma intersection.



    Going around muddy spots, downed trees, water elements create even more maintenance that cannot be accomplished with State Park funding. Please help preserve the trails: by giving the trails time to rest and recover now gives everyone the opportunity to enjoy them more when they dry out.



    Please help us out: if you come across a tree down across the trail, or any other hazardous conditions, please take a photo, note the exact location and call or email us with the info. 707-539-3911 or neill.fogarty@parks.ca.gov.

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    thinking of riding Annadel on Friday. Has the trails dried out enough to ride or look elsewhere.

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    going on the comment by mikericci right above yours, I don't think it sounds like it will be ready to go in a week.

    but I always err on the conservative side when it comes to trail preservation.

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    Anyone been up there in the last couple days that can give an update on trail conditions?

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    Mud isn't an issue in most of the park, but there are a LOT of down trees and debris on the trails.

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    i'm gonna go up canyon and down spring today. have time for a quick ride before date night.
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    Still a lot of downed trees?

    Trails to stay away from?

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    How was Annadel today anyone? I'm thinking of going up tomorrow if it's not too muddy.

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    I rode wr, 2 quarry, marsh, pig flat, ridge, marsh, S Burma and n burma.

    Ran into one downed tree blocking ridge which I reported when done. Overall it was highly rideable with some mud on ridge in the expected spots.

    Only n Burma felt like it really wasn't quite ready to ride as the upper section was pretty muddy and the bottom of lower n Burma had mud and running water.

    Big old downed tree in 2 quarry that's been cut to allow traffic. Huck it cat says that's a feature.




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    It's not too muddy. Ride it.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Lawndale was tits - go get it

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    Rode there today.

    Great weather, trails in excellent shape considering.

    In a case of Nominative Determinism, the most puddles I encountered were on… Marsh.

    Parked at Lawndale, over to Schultz via road, Ridge/Marsh and down to South Burma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    It's not too muddy. Ride it.
    hey JMac, do you think north burma would be less muddy by this weekend? was hoping to do canyon-->buick meadow-->down south burma-->down north burma-->live oak to rough to-->down cobble stone

    thanks!
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    Did a quick up and back yesterday afternoon, trying to get my legs back under me after being off the bike for two months. Went down Spring Creek and except for the emergency spillway crossing the trail was in great shape.

    The emergency spillway must've dumped an awful lot of water. The crossing was completely reconfigured with a crapload of new boulders thrown in there to stop the erosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dth656 View Post
    hey JMac, do you think north burma would be less muddy by this weekend? was hoping to do canyon-->buick meadow-->down south burma-->down north burma-->live oak to rough to-->down cobble stone

    thanks!
    It's all less muddy right now! Come and get some of it!
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    awesome! thanks for the update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Did a quick up and back yesterday afternoon, trying to get my legs back under me after being off the bike for two months. Went down Spring Creek and except for the emergency spillway crossing the trail was in great shape.

    The emergency spillway must've dumped an awful lot of water. The crossing was completely reconfigured with a crapload of new boulders thrown in there to stop the erosion.
    you dont drive a big dodge do you?

    and that crossing repair is gonna cause them headaches in the long run..i almost ate it on the last portion..hahah..i was watching a jogging lady..duh.
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    I rode Annadel this morning. It's amazing how much it has dried up from Saturday. Hero dirt!

    @boomchakabowwow - I'm local and ride there often (~2000 miles/year). I drive a big dodge truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    you dont drive a big dodge do you?

    and that crossing repair is gonna cause them headaches in the long run..i almost ate it on the last portion..hahah..i was watching a jogging lady..duh.
    No, I live within a mile and a half of the Park Trail entrance, so I always use the road as a warm up.

    I would have ridden that section across the spillway, except I haven't been on my bike for 2 months and chickened out. Incidentally, there was a jogging young lady there when I crossed too (around 6:20 PM).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tincan View Post
    I rode Annadel this morning. It's amazing how much it has dried up from Saturday. Hero dirt!

    @boomchakabowwow - I'm local and ride there often (~2000 miles/year). I drive a big dodge truck.
    maybe i met you the other day? silver tacoma..i was going in, you were loading up the bike..if that was you.
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    at least down here in Oakland, we received a fair amount of rain this week.

    Is Annadel a no go for Saturday, March 25th?

    was close to excellent the last two weekends I went.

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    thanks for the updates on this. i cant wait to explore up there next month as the weather is becoming better by the day.

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    Will be there this weekend, this week is going to dry everything out perfectly.

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    Rode the peripheral fire road routes up there yesterday i.e. Spring Lake, up Canyon,Lake Tr, down WP Rich and back out Channel Dr etc. I'm sure this weeks sunny breezy weather will help out most of the open areas but imagine there will still be risidual runoff leaching in the usual wet places.
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    i really need to up my riding..trying to get into elk hunting shape while preserving my knees. go time!!

    i'll check it out today. it is damn near HOT weather now. i cant imagine with this breeze it wont be bone dry soon.
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    Rode Annadel this morning. Marsh has a little mud/puddles in the usual spots. 2Q has water running down the middle of the rocky section (this is typical). The rest of 2Q is pretty dry. The fire roads are are fine with a little run-off from the hills. I stayed off Ridge because that trail is the last to dry out.

    With the warmer temps, the trails should be very good by this weekend!

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    off topic..the wild turkey were going off yesterday. spring season of LOVING for them and the boys are gobbling.

    had a good time riding, except i kept stopping to look for birds. trails are still wet, but the dirt is not that clingy anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    off topic..the wild turkey were going off yesterday. spring season of LOVING for them and the boys are gobbling.

    had a good time riding, except i kept stopping to look for birds. trails are still wet, but the dirt is not that clingy anyways.
    Several groups of boys in velvet grazing together on my ride. Soon they'll break up and go all out solo fighting for the girls!
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    That friggin switchback at the top of two-quarry is gonna be under water for another month! It was about a foot deep in January, at least isn't that bad now. Overall the dirt is awesome, plenty of grip. Anyone been over ridge lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chute View Post
    That friggin switchback at the top of two-quarry is gonna be under water for another month! It was about a foot deep in January, at least isn't that bad now. Overall the dirt is awesome, plenty of grip. Anyone been over ridge lately?
    I went up Schultz to ridge all then way to marsh then back up marsh and out lawndale today.

    Ridge is funny, there are parts on upper ridge with mud and standing water, plus tre climb against the drainage section as little streams still, but other sections are almost looking too dry already. The warm temps and breeze should help but i expect it won't be great until after the weekend.

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    Off topic question. What tires do those who ride a lot of Annadel prefer for spring/summer?

    I love the grip on my dhr 2s but I might want to try something with better rolling resistance see if I can get up those climbs faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    Off topic question. What tires do those who ride a lot of Annadel prefer for spring/summer?

    I love the grip on my dhr 2s but I might want to try something with better rolling resistance see if I can get up those climbs faster.
    I used WTB Vigilante 2.3s front and back last year. Before those I used the Bronsons, which did seem to roll better, but not as much edge grip though. I've seen people up there with Ardents a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chute View Post
    That friggin switchback at the top of two-quarry is gonna be under water for another month! It was about a foot deep in January
    The little dip crossing on Schultz before you start the climb is the same, at least a foot deep of water. I cleared it the time before last but still soaked my 510s, today I just hike a biked it and stayed dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    Off topic question. What tires do those who ride a lot of Annadel prefer for spring/summer?

    I love the grip on my dhr 2s but I might want to try something with better rolling resistance see if I can get up those climbs faster.
    I was using Nobby Nic (newer version) 2.25's and 2.35's Snakeskin EVO. They were too easily sliced up. I tried Bontrager SE4 Team Issue and they were better. Now running Magic Mary EVO Snakeskin (front) and DHRII (rear) now and the puncture protection is worth the extra rolling resistance. It's not that I'm in any hurry going up anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    The little dip crossing on Schultz before you start the climb is the same, at least a foot deep of water. I cleared it the time before last but still soaked my 510s, today I just hike a biked it and stayed dry.
    I shudder coming up to that thing, there are tons of softball size stones under the water, glance the front tire off one of those things the wrong way and your goin down.

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