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    3rd Annual Dogmeat No Dab Challenge....ahhhh yeah!

    Here's how it works: between now and April 30, 2013, clean Dogmeat (from start of intersection of Limekiln and Priest Rock to top of mountain at the intersection...once you start, you cannot put your foot down) and you earn your name on the Wall of Fame and a Dogmeat No-Dab Tee-Shirt. I have done beers in the past so mixing it up with something more long lasting. Shirts are only available if more than 11 make the board before time runs out. Honor system.

    Last year we had 14 no-dabbers...the year before 12:

    2nd Annual Dogmeat Wall of Fame:
    1) Squashyo
    2) KeithMakesWine (x2)
    3) ask
    4) pmarshall
    5) mboldt (x2)
    6) mtbhead
    7) LG Man
    8) FatTireMan
    9) ancient rascal
    10) JL de Jong
    11) orthorex
    12) lilysdad
    13) bassn
    14) skidmarque

    Here's the beast: Mountain Bike Ride Profile | 2011_11_04_SierraAzul_20-40-50-20 near San Jose | Times and Records | Strava

    The actual trail is at the intersection of Limekiln Trail and Priest Rock Trail and is the Priest Rock ascent to Kennedy Trail at this intersection. (Download map here: Openspace.org - Your Preserves - Sierra Azul)

    For getting there, you have a few options. I'll go easy to hardest:

    1) Park next to the reservoir on Alma Bridge Road
    (Yahoo! Maps, Driving Directions, and Traffic)
    You can park next to trail head at either Limekiln Trail or Priest Rock Trail. Limekiln is more of a chunky ascent, almost ST in nature - more on the technical side but not bad. Priest Rock Trail is just a steep FR that get's you there faster but more sustained steep.

    2) Park on Jones Rd, Los Gatos and warm up through St. Josephs Hill. Just take this Jones Trail straight to Alma Bridge.
    Yahoo! Maps, Driving Directions, and Traffic
    This will give you a little more saddle time if you are looking for a longer ride. On the way back, you can double back and climb to the top of St Joes for some nice views or descend Kennedy for a bigger loop OR go right at the top of Dogmeat and take on the roller coasters to Limekiln for an even bigger day.

    3) If you are feeling especially burly, take on the 20/40 minz challenge then go tackle Dogmeat. This entails Parking somewhere Downtown LG (Summit Bike store is a good start). Ride up Los Gatos Blvd to Kennedy(take a rt) , climb Kennedy Rd to Kennedy trail head. At trail entrance start your stop watch (or Strava or whatever). 1st long plateau is the 20 (big Oak tree in middle of trail) and the 40 is to the end of the last wall on Kennedy at top. This is a super grinder effort (especially the 20). At top, take on Roller coasters to Limekiln, and descend to Dogmeat start. See: Kennedy 20/40 2012 edition

    AND FINALLY, if anyone wants to suggest or help with shirt design, let me know. GOOD LUCK and bring on the pain!
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    Time machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Here's how it works: between now and April 30, 2012, clean Dogmeat...
    We need a time machine first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wherewolf View Post
    We need a time machine first
    ha whoops...sorry, product of the 60s. fixed, I think.
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    Done! Pretty dry out there on top but not super loose...still brutal especially the last couple of walls...weeeeez. Whose next?

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    Pic 1 the start of hell
    Pic 2 the end of hell

    NOTE TO FUTURE SELF: Future self, please don't ever, ever, ever, EVER try this again with a chest cold you stupid, obsessive, dip$%&*!
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Done! Pretty dry out there on top but not super loose...still brutal especially the last couple of walls...weeeeez. Whose next?
    Nice work keepin' the power down with that balding down the middle rear tire. Gonna knock it out this weekend....

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    I just mounted my new $300 set of fatbike tires, so I should have plenty of traction. I would prefer a bit more moisture to have settled into the ground before attempting it though.
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    Can't bring myself to go back there just for a fireroad climb...how about some alternate hill climbs in other places? Ones that are as big or bigger and everyone agrees at least as hard as Dogmeat. I can think of piles in Coe (and there the climbs are approaches for nice single tracks...and the climbs are often single tracks too), and there must be others in other spots in Northern California where those who've done Dogmeat can confirm they are at least as hard or way harder (like Silver Canyon near Bishop, which is a 6500' climb - a gradual 3000' climb followed by three and a half Dogmeats stacked on top of each other...and all at altitude...I can't even get close to doing that one clean!).

    There are loads of at-least-as-hard-if-not-way-harder-than-Dogmeats at Coe...maybe for a suggestion of a comparable one would be Poverty Flat to Jackass to Blue Ridge - Poverty Flat is like Limekiln and Jackass to Blue Ridge is like Dogmeat. Lots of way-harder-than-Dogmeat options like Bear Mountain or Willow Ridge trail (or dozens of others that nearly no one even tries to climb up...except for Plymmer and a few others...).

    It seems that it'd be cool to "open up" the pain (...whoops did I say "pain"? I meant "fun"...) to more folks in other spots! Plus that we can get a list of hill climbs to avoid...(whoops I meant "try out sometime"...ahem...).

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    You want more steep climbs? Coe has indeed plenty of hike-a-bike stuff, but it takes a while to get there.
    Here's one steep climb for some of the local parks going from "easy" to "impossible".

    Santa Teresa: East Boundary
    Fremont Older: Ranch Road (bottom of Seven Springs straight up to Hunters Point)
    Long Ridge/Saratoga Gap: Long Ridge "the wall".
    El Corte de Madera: Fir trail (from Methusalah to Resolution)
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    Quote Originally Posted by locoyokel View Post
    Can't bring myself to go back there just for a fireroad climb...how about some alternate hill climbs in other places? Ones that are as big or bigger and everyone agrees at least as hard as Dogmeat. I can think of piles in Coe (and there the climbs are approaches for nice single tracks...and the climbs are often single tracks too), and there must be others in other spots in Northern California where those who've done Dogmeat can confirm they are at least as hard or way harder (like Silver Canyon near Bishop, which is a 6500' climb - a gradual 3000' climb followed by three and a half Dogmeats stacked on top of each other...and all at altitude...I can't even get close to doing that one clean!).

    There are loads of at-least-as-hard-if-not-way-harder-than-Dogmeats at Coe...maybe for a suggestion of a comparable one would be Poverty Flat to Jackass to Blue Ridge - Poverty Flat is like Limekiln and Jackass to Blue Ridge is like Dogmeat. Lots of way-harder-than-Dogmeat options like Bear Mountain or Willow Ridge trail (or dozens of others that nearly no one even tries to climb up...except for Plymmer and a few others...).

    It seems that it'd be cool to "open up" the pain (...whoops did I say "pain"? I meant "fun"...) to more folks in other spots! Plus that we can get a list of hill climbs to avoid...(whoops I meant "try out sometime"...ahem...).
    All fine and dandy but this is my simple annual Dogmeat Challenge. Perhaps this will inspire you to set up your own challenge(s) in these other places of suffering. Me personally, I don't need way harder...this one is plenty hard enough for me. Perhaps if you read through my first Annual thread, you'll see why I chose this spot for my MTBR friends to try: Cleaned Dogmeat! F. Yeah! Club?

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    Nice cable routing job on that bike Squashyo!

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    Cool. I'm gonna try it. I'm a noob, how much shall I expect this to kick my butt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beandip4all View Post
    Cool. I'm gonna try it. I'm a noob, how much shall I expect this to kick my butt?
    Well lets see.....you climb and climb until you are really tired. Then it gets much steeper, so it will kick your butt at least a little!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide mon View Post
    Nice cable routing job on that bike Squashyo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkyJay View Post
    Well lets see.....you climb and climb until you are really tired. Then it gets much steeper, so it will kick your butt at least a little!
    Then you get to Dogmeat and things get interesting (really steep).

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    Whose next ?

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    Well, hopefully this time around I'll conquer it much soon then last...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by locoyokel View Post
    Can't bring myself to go back there just for a fireroad climb...how about some alternate hill climbs in other places? Ones that are as big or bigger and everyone agrees at least as hard as Dogmeat. I can think of piles in Coe (and there the climbs are approaches for nice single tracks...and the climbs are often single tracks too), and there must be others in other spots in Northern California where those who've done Dogmeat can confirm they are at least as hard or way harder (like Silver Canyon near Bishop, which is a 6500' climb - a gradual 3000' climb followed by three and a half Dogmeats stacked on top of each other...and all at altitude...I can't even get close to doing that one clean!).

    There are loads of at-least-as-hard-if-not-way-harder-than-Dogmeats at Coe...maybe for a suggestion of a comparable one would be Poverty Flat to Jackass to Blue Ridge - Poverty Flat is like Limekiln and Jackass to Blue Ridge is like Dogmeat. Lots of way-harder-than-Dogmeat options like Bear Mountain or Willow Ridge trail (or dozens of others that nearly no one even tries to climb up...except for Plymmer and a few others...).

    It seems that it'd be cool to "open up" the pain (...whoops did I say "pain"? I meant "fun"...) to more folks in other spots! Plus that we can get a list of hill climbs to avoid...(whoops I meant "try out sometime"...ahem...).
    I was just at Coe yesterday (helping clear trails and managed to get in 7,100+ footies in) and rode some of the steep-ass uphill stuff. Last month I completed the HardCoere100 challenge (22 hours 35 minutes, 100+ miles, 21,000+ footies) and was amazed at the steepness and pain factor of a lot of those climbs!!! I couldn’t imagine anyone sadistic enough to have a “Coe uphill festival of pain” solely for the sake of doing no-dabs, seeing as it takes a bit of energy just riding out to where the ass-whooper climbs are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    You want more steep climbs? Coe has indeed plenty of hike-a-bike stuff, but it takes a while to get there.
    Here's one steep climb for some of the local parks going from "easy" to "impossible".

    Santa Teresa: East Boundary
    In my opinion, going up Boundary Climb no-dabs is waaaaay easier than Dogmeat no-dabs. A way harder one, however (which you and I once rode together) is the Ohlone to Boundary climb as one continuous uphill effort no-dabs. Chews you up and spits you out, yet I find it easier to do no-dabs up this than Dogmeat.
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    I gave it a shot yesterday intending to get this year's dogmeat no-dab out of the way early. No joy. Dabbed once on the long runout after the last steep pitch, felt like hurling and lost my focus. Next time it is mine!

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    Sounds like some great efforts out there! Hope we see some new faces this year...Francois, LP...maybe a gal!!! I tried to recruit Shredchic but that's a long way to go for a fire road climb. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Sounds like some great efforts out there! Hope we see some new faces this year...Francois, LP...maybe a gal!!! I tried to recruit Shredchic but that's a long way to go for a fire road climb. .
    God...I love Kennedy challenge season ! Might as well pencil in LG man if he rides this weekend. I usually watch him go by me when I miss as he cleans Dogmeat... Kind of a yearly tradition ! May have the gal to clean it ! I shoot her a text invite. B. Climber's not real fond of Dogmeat either !
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Sounds like some great efforts out there! Hope we see some new faces this year...Francois, LP...maybe a gal!!! I tried to recruit Shredchic but that's a long way to go for a fire road climb. .
    Haha Squashyo - thanks for including us gals in the fun. I might give it a shot - it's on the way to work for me. My friend at the campfire is also awesome at clearing steep hills. Or maybe some weekend when the santa cruz redwood duff gets too soggy to ride, we'll head over there... I have no idea what I'm signing up for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    El Corte de Madera: Fir trail (from Methusalah to Resolution)
    +1. I tried to take that as a short-cut one of my first Skeggs rides...not pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by agleck7 View Post
    +1. I tried to take that as a short-cut one of my first Skeggs rides...not pretty

    Squashyo -- do you have a mobile work station on your handlebar?
    I sort of do...it's just an iPhone holder. Because I work from home, found it easier to manage boss/client check ins and I can listen to music with easier access...geeky but effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shredchic View Post
    I have no idea what I'm signing up for.
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    Happy to check the DMNDC off the list. Got it this morning and it was painful. As usual. Like a dope, I allowed myself to drift over to the right on one of the steeper sections near the top. Somehow plowed through. Don't HAVE to do it again for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orthorex View Post
    Happy to check the DMNDC off the list. Got it this morning and it was painful. As usual. Like a dope, I allowed myself to drift over to the right on one of the steeper sections near the top. Somehow plowed through. Don't HAVE to do it again for a year.

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    It was busy on Dogmeat today. I saw two other riders going up. I tried to make it without dabs, but after a week of 12 hours each day in the office and a doughnut for breakfast, I didn't have it in me. I tried a second time, but swerved into the loose rocks and dabbed again. OK, back to a some training runs on Ranch Road in Fremont Older, a couple of Mission Peaks at lunch time and then I'll try this monster again.

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    You are correct sir

    Quadzilla ...Motobecane Brian and myself also gave dogmeat a shot today. Looks like some folks are wanting to bring cleaned dogmeat to the Turkey day ride. I plan to ! .
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    Nice job orthorex!

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    I might give it a shot tomorrow. Depending on if I feel like driving to go ride or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I might give it a shot tomorrow. Depending on if I feel like driving to go ride or not...
    Let me know what time you'll be heading out. I might go and get this challenge off the -to do list-.

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    I am heading out with some free time to try and get this done. Will be starting in downtown LG, go through st joes and up overgrown. Then hopefully up dogmeat with no dabs. Only have about 2.5 hours to ride so wont be messing around. Going to remember to lower my tire pressure at the overgrown dogmeat intersection and just grind up dogmeat. I will be parking by summit bikes around 1:30pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I am heading out with some free time to try and get this done. Will be starting in downtown LG, go through st joes and up overgrown. Then hopefully up dogmeat with no dabs. Only have about 2.5 hours to ride so wont be messing around. Going to remember to lower my tire pressure at the overgrown dogmeat intersection and just grind up dogmeat. I will be parking by summit bikes around 1:30pm.
    I'd like to say wish I could join you but this is Dogmeat so the proper reply is glad I can't join you. Good luck and conditions should be pretty dang good.
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    Yeah no other reason to join considering my company is not really worth it. The worst reason is I feel a touch sick right now but going to give it a spin. Hope to see others out enjoying the day. I will report back when I can. See you all later.
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    Have to reschedule. Dang!
    They never made the "Slowster"

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    My buddy Andy cleaned the beast today...said there were quite a few out there on the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    My buddy Andy cleaned the beast today...said there were quite a few out there on the hill.

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    LG man and I watched him do it! Marco came down dogmeat as we were going up. He crushed the 20/40 deal today! Congrats to both of them!
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    Cleaned it this morning. I think the secret was fueling with oatmeal instead of the Reuben sandwich I had last week.

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    [QUOTE=skidmarque;9865488]Cleaned it this morning. I think the secret was fueling with oatmeal instead of the Reuben sandwich I had last week.

    Um, BRRRRR!!!! Avg Temp 39°F
    Nice work man!

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    Good sir please add my name! Went up overgrown and went slowly to conserve energy and power for the ultimate test. Was going along great and got to about halfway up the steep pitch and slid out. I was trying to stick to the non-loose stuff on the left side. Don't do try that! I ended up going straight up the middle the 2nd time and didn't even have one of those "turning to the side without meaning to" moments. Glad to have checked this off my list!

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    Well done, Paul! I kinda like that semi-smooth path on the left of the trail, but it has a nasty sideways slope to it, so maybe straight down the middle is better.
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    Yeah JL- I was thinking the same as you. I slid a little sideways and I am sure my rear tire pressure didn't help on that part because the bike started to come out from beneath me. The middle is hard too but I have to tell myself to keep on the power and momentum will carry you through. Hard to ignore my crazy HR but I figured I wasn't too likely to expire while trying. Saw a guy coming down and and he asked if I was going to make it up. I told him that it was my second go around and yeah, I wasn't going to turn around again. Determination and anger can do a lot for me when I ride.
    They never made the "Slowster"

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    Good job P-Marsh!

    I like your pic.

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    Atta boy...I stuck to the left all the way up and managed it ok but it can get in your head with the off camber feel.

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    Well done, well done. Also, that is a great shot if it's from the self timer (or did somebody take it for you?) Anyway perfect lighting and such.

    Man, I need to get my wife's bike set up (i.e. the bike w/ gears) and give this a shot.

    By the way, how does Dogmeat compare to Ranch Road over at Fremont Older? I've never tried going up Dogmeat but used to ride up Ranch Road all the time when I lived near there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL de Jong View Post
    El Corte de Madera: Fir trail (from Methusalah to Resolution)
    I tried to no-dab it for a long time. Nope.

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    Thanks Gideon, self timer propped on a rock! I dropped it earlier in the ride but it is my work camera so no big deal. So yes, dogmeat is very similar to ranch road in FO. Just a whole lot longer and looser rocks. Ranch road might be a degree or two steeper but it is so short it is way easier. If you drift off to the side there are bigger rocks and a few rutted sections that will screw up any attempts. Give it a go and I have never heard of any SS'ers doing this no-dab. You could be the first!
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    Got it done! Panicked a little on the last wall when I changed my mind from taking the off camber left line to the looser but flat center. Kept it together though!

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