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    20 and 40 under club !

    Starting as of today the game is on. Looking for sub 20's to the tree and sub 40 minutes to the top of Kennedy from the potty on both runs. Combine both or do one or the other. Who's in ? No previous times allowed. Yup....get out and do it again. Post up your times here even if they are over the time limit. ElHombre's 20-40-20 plan might as well be on here also for those who can never get enough! Hike a bike is acceptable as per race rules. Strava and computer/stopwatch also OK. Good luck ! ... and I hope there is something for everyone here. ******** 20-40-20 plan ********
    Since this is all about senseless stupid climbing, I think the challenge could be expanded a bit: I propose the 20-40-20 plan: the goal is to hit sub-20 to the tree, sub-40 to the top, then sub-20 on the Dog Meat climb (after you've gone up the rollers and descended Limekiln, of course), in a single ride. I may have to go hide some choice bottles of beer on the summit as reward/carrots for prospective finishers... -ElHombre
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    Ah Christ! Here we go folks. The gauntlet has been thrown down. Under 20 to the tree will be tough for me. Not sure I can do that and then continue to a sub 40 to the top. I can see my self exploding and even having to stop. However, I might try a sub 20 to the tree. I might even try to stay in my middle ring and my 30 tooth cog on the rear. Did this on Mission Peak Stanford side and it was harder but our pace was somewhat social and that helped. I would have to shave off almost 2 mins to the tree- holy carp batman! Might give it a go this coming midweek. Wed or thurs morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    Ah Christ! Here we go folks. The gauntlet has been thrown down. Under 20 to the tree will be tough for me. Not sure I can do that and then continue to a sub 40 to the top. I can see my self exploding and even having to stop. However, I might try a sub 20 to the tree. I might even try to stay in my middle ring and my 30 tooth cog on the rear. Did this on Mission Peak Stanford side and it was harder but our pace was somewhat social and that helped. I would have to shave off almost 2 mins to the tree- holy carp batman! Might give it a go this coming midweek. Wed or thurs morning.
    I will expect....heck... demand to see all the cleaned dogmeat boys show up here. Except maybe me ? I am claiming the...... "ThrownGauntlet".....MTBR exemption clause on this ?
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    Jinkies. Make it to tree in under 20 and you can walk the rest to make 40. I'm in and not looking forward to a single moment of it.

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    Hopefully I can put myself and the bike on a diet! I will take a few grams off my sled with these boys to give myself a fighting chance at making the list. 20 and 40 under club !-1015111353a.jpg
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    I managed a 39:01 to the top with a 22:21 to the tree a few days ago.. I'm a better finisher than starter! A sub 20 to the tree would hurt for sure! We need to do a relay with 2 or 3 riders. Potty to tree, tree to walls, and a sprinter for the walls at the finish. Time in the upper 20's possible?

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    Yeah Marco would be cool and I am sure we'd be faster than many. You could even be waiting at the tree warming up when the first rider arrives, then pin it to the base of the walls, then meet the third guy for an all out cardiac assault of the walls! Even with that we might not beat Menso's time of 27 and change!

    Ancient, I have used those tires before and they are great on hardpacked stuff. Hopefully they will help you. I know you can do it even on the SS!!!
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    I'm so out of this club. I might have to make a trip up Kennedy to get my failtastic time recorded again. Baby raising has made me all slow and fat.

    And its been like two years form the last time i rode up that biznatch of a hill.

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    TJ- I remember riding this with you once and you pulled away from me near the end and I ended up with just under 50 mins and was super happy. That was about 7-8 years ago I think. Crazy how times slips by. You'll get back out there and be kicking it in no time. Baby raising does that to us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    Yeah Marco would be cool and I am sure we'd be faster than many. You could even be waiting at the tree warming up when the first rider arrives, then pin it to the base of the walls, then meet the third guy for an all out cardiac assault of the walls! Even with that we might not beat Menso's time of 27 and change!

    Ancient, I have used those tires before and they are great on hardpacked stuff. Hopefully they will help you. I know you can do it even on the SS!!!
    Thanks for the encouragement !...I have come close to both the 20 and the 40 but when you get your times down close to your limits ..... even shaving 30 seconds off a PR can be hard. Looking at Strava specs you posted a day ago I guess the sub 40 is a bit tougher than I thought it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    TJ- I remember riding this with you once and you pulled away from me near the end and I ended up with just under 50 mins and was super happy. That was about 7-8 years ago I think. Crazy how times slips by. You'll get back out there and be kicking it in no time. Baby raising does that to us all.
    I think that was 3 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
    I managed a 39:01 to the top with a 22:21 to the tree a few days ago.. I'm a better finisher than starter! A sub 20 to the tree would hurt for sure! We need to do a relay with 2 or 3 riders. Potty to tree, tree to walls, and a sprinter for the walls at the finish. Time in the upper 20's possible?

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    Serious Biz Marco ! Nice yank.....getting a 39 to the top. 17 or 18 something to the tree sounds like a given for you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
    I managed a 39:01 to the top with a 22:21 to the tree a few days ago.. I'm a better finisher than starter! A sub 20 to the tree would hurt for sure! We need to do a relay with 2 or 3 riders. Potty to tree, tree to walls, and a sprinter for the walls at the finish. Time in the upper 20's possible?

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    Count me in for the wall sections. Iíll even do íem on singlespeed.

    My best time from the potty to the tree was 22:41 (I think it was on the Mensocycle), and my best time to the top was 43:06 (also on the Mensocycle), so all I need to do I suppose is keep hammering on the heavy-assed singlespeed over and over and over again, and then do a crazy-ass sprint on the much lighter weight Mensocycle for the sub 20/40 gold. Problem for me now is that having a job is getting in the way.

    But actually, itíd be nice to be this capable again before the Turkey Day ride up Kennedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
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    Yup we can always count on Squashy to start something up. Here's what got the ball rolling this time. Under 40 minz on Kennedy tips The last thing I can remember is drinking cup 12 of Peet's and getting on MTBR before I headed out to Kennedy this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    Starting as of today the game is on. Looking for sub 20's to the tree and sub 40 minutes to the top of Kennedy from the potty on both runs. Combine both or do one or the other. Who's in ? No previous times allowed. Yup....get out and do it again. Post up your times here even if they are over the time limit.

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    Since I started using Strava, 28:13 to the tree, 49:28 to the top. I have a sub 44 PR from a Kings of Kennedy from a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
    I managed a 39:01 to the top with a 22:21 to the tree a few days ago.. I'm a better finisher than starter! A sub 20 to the tree would hurt for sure! We need to do a relay with 2 or 3 riders. Potty to tree, tree to walls, and a sprinter for the walls at the finish. Time in the upper 20's possible?

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    hmm, we create a mythical strava user and pass the gps baton on the way up? that might be kinda fun, but it would probably take more than 2 or 3 of us.

    and 20 is tougher than 40 imo.

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    It looks like if you get to the tree by 20, you get to the top by 35.

    tree - kennedy potty to tree
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    It looks like if you get to the tree by 20, you get to the top by 35.

    tree - kennedy potty to tree
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    au contraire my friend. I personally have come within 38 seconds of getting under the 20 to the tree. But......There is no way I will be doing a 35 to the top. If I train and get lucky ... 39 something may happen but that will prolly be it for me. Brazilian climber can easily do sub 20 and do 35 ish or less to the top. Your formula will work for some though of course. 20/40 is a good spot for the semi tough.... eh ? Kind of cat 2 ish in a sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    au contraire my friend. I personally have come within 38 seconds of getting under the 20 to the tree. But......There is no way I will be doing a 35 to the top. If I train and get lucky ... 39 something may happen but that will prolly be it for me. Brazilian climber can easily do sub 20 and do 35 ish or less to the top. Your formula will work for some though of course. 20/40 is a good spot for the semi tough.... eh ? Kind of cat 2 ish in a sense.
    That may be because you're going at a pace that you can not sustain to the top. If you look at the strava for everybody, only a few people under 20 and about the same under 35

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    I tried it on my single speed 29er yesterday 34/19 gearing. I completely blew up, I even tried to take it easy on some of the climbs its just so long and relentless single speed sucks. You can almost never sit and its back to back brutal power sprints that just blow you up. I ended up walking more than a few sections just to stop my heart from trying to jump out of my chest but managed 21:50 to the tree and 40:36 all the way up with quite a bit of walking. Now I have a challenge to finish this climb with my current gearing no breaks no walking. I have done it on a 26er with 32/16 gearing and 29er with 32/20 gearing but this 34/19 is something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitWienie View Post
    I tried it on my single speed 29er yesterday 34/19 gearing. I completely blew up, I even tried to take it easy on some of the climbs its just so long and relentless single speed sucks. You can almost never sit and its back to back brutal power sprints that just blow you up. I ended up walking more than a few sections just to stop my heart from trying to jump out of my chest but managed 21:50 to the tree and 40:36 all the way up with quite a bit of walking. Now I have a challenge to finish this climb with my current gearing no breaks no walking. I have done it on a 26er with 32/16 gearing and 29er with 32/20 gearing but this 34/19 is something else.

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    Nice job Chris! Man you had the sub 40 in your hand. I also do the SS thing and will say I feel your pain. I run a 26er with 32x19 up Kennedy all the time. One more run and you will break the 40. If you knew you were gonna be that close you would have pushed it more and made a sub 40.....eh ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    Nice job Chris! Man you had the sub 40 in your hand. I also do the SS thing and will say I feel your pain. I run a 26er with 32x19 up Kennedy all the time. One more run and you will break the 40. If you knew you were gonna be that close you would have pushed it more and made a sub 40.....eh ?
    Thanks... I did 37 earlier this year but with gears. I haven't timed myself on the SS yet until yesterday. I knew as soon as I blew up about 1/3 of the way up and had to walk for a little it was over. Contemplated turning around a few times and heading back down but figured I should finish the climb even if I had to walk a few sections really didn't care about time at that point. hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    Ah Christ! Here we go folks. The gauntlet has been thrown down. Under 20 to the tree will be tough for me. Not sure I can do that and then continue to a sub 40 to the top. I can see my self exploding and even having to stop. However, I might try a sub 20 to the tree. I might even try to stay in my middle ring and my 30 tooth cog on the rear. Did this on Mission Peak Stanford side and it was harder but our pace was somewhat social and that helped. I would have to shave off almost 2 mins to the tree- holy carp batman! Might give it a go this coming midweek. Wed or thurs morning.
    OK... Paul has thrown it down then. Sub 20 to the tree is job # 1 for me too. I will give it a go soon. You will make it quickly if you treat it as the end of the trial/race for that run. You can spend it all on the sprint in those 20......or sub 20 minutes. I tried it maybe 15 or 20 times ...... close but no cigar. You are a bit stronger than I am and I predict a sub 20 for you before the Turkey day ride and hopefully I can do it also. HTFU/MTFU Andy R would say !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
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    Heck if it was easy.....anyone could do it ! Last one I tried was in February this year. My PR @ 20.38 with a stopwatch on my wristwatch. Loads of 21 somethings and a 20.58. Just doing the 5% faster needed to go sub 20 stopped me. I want it before 2012 ! Thanks for posting it up and go get it before the Turkey day ride !
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    I'll see you all in this club if i drop 40 lbs and ride anything but my chameleon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    You beat my potty by 1 second?

    You know there's going to be hell to pay right?
    Yeah, I had that 20 in the bag and thought it would be funnier to wait before the tree and beat you by just the 1 second.

    Well, maybe I could have done 20 to the tree today, but would have had nothing left for the rest. I think 20 to the tree seems pretty comparable in terms of overall effort to 20 on Old La Honda, so if you can do one you should be able to do the other. Of course they're totally different rides.

    Actually, it was harder than I thought it would be. I aimed to do 20 and 35, and had distances and target average speeds taped to the bar to know what I needed to do. I've only been on Kennedy once before and that was in the rain/mist in March, so wasn't too sure of where the split would be. I think to hit 35 you have to be sub-20 at the tree. On the best day possible in a race scenario, I might conceivably be able to do both. It might take a new bike though rather than my vintage Stumpjumper. And 40 is definitely easier than 20 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I'll see you all in this club if i drop 40 lbs and ride anything but my chameleon.
    Well.....Your friend pmarshall will be on this thread soon and hopefully LP will break out the Mensocycle and play along too.
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    I am having some serious doubts that I can do it. UKBloke is a fast rider and he missed by 40 secs- Good job UK though on your 37 min time! I think that I am going to just have to pin it the entire time and hope to god I can recover in certain spots enough to make it. Depending on how I feel when I get to the tree, I might continue on or I might just lay down and let the Mt Lions eat me. I know the sub 40 is possible. I have done it a few times and got 40 min on the nose when I went at night. I will try but I am not anything special so get your expectations low! Just like the one trait you look for in a good woman, low standards! I think tomorrow might be the day to give it a go. The one thing that sucks is that I usually have to wait till the wife comes home before I can upload. I will also use my stopwatch and give you guys a presumptive time followed by the Strava link when I can. I know this competition is dumb, I got that going for me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I am having some serious doubts that I can do it. UKBloke is a fast rider and he missed by 40 secs- Good job UK though on your 37 min time! I think that I am going to just have to pin it the entire time and hope to god I can recover in certain spots enough to make it. Depending on how I feel when I get to the tree, I might continue on or I might just lay down and let the Mt Lions eat me. I know the sub 40 is possible. I have done it a few times and got 40 min on the nose when I went at night. I will try but I am not anything special so get your expectations low! Just like the one trait you look for in a good woman, low standards! I think tomorrow might be the day to give it a go. The one thing that sucks is that I usually have to wait till the wife comes home before I can upload. I will also use my stopwatch and give you guys a presumptive time followed by the Strava link when I can. I know this competition is dumb, I got that going for me anyway.
    Funny you should mention the lay down at the tree. Brazilian climber was doing that at the tree when we were going for times early this year. He would put down his bike and lay flat on the trail. I kept sayin.....Dude the deer hang out here ... your gonna get ticks. I won't have him as my rabbit on these next runs. I am taking a swing at the tree this week also. Good Luck -AR
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    Just one question... Is this considered a trail ride or a road ride?

    I'm not going during hero dirt season. Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    Just one question... Is this considered a trail ride or a road ride?
    I've never heard it called a fire trail. (Well, maybe an Aussie might call it that.)

    I'm just trying to extend my Low-Key form with something slightly different.

    I'm not going during hero dirt season. Nope.
    I'll interpret that as acquiescence.

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    The worst part of Kennedy for me is actually after the initial downhill and after where it goes up easy for a while, and then all of a sudden it gets really steep with two humps back to back. Do you guys attack immediately after the downhill or do you pump steady til you hit the this section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukbloke View Post
    I've never heard it called a fire trail. (Well, maybe an Aussie might call it that.)

    I'm just trying to extend my Low-Key form with something slightly different.



    I'll interpret that as acquiescence.
    What bike did you use UK?

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    Not for me, my best time is with a steady consistent effort from the bottom to the top. I make sure not to back off on the initial flats, but do take a breather on the downhill. Everything else is a steady measured pace to hit my goal. The only "attack" would be the final 100 yards to reach the end and then collapse in a heap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mboldt View Post
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    This isn't going to be easy.
    Oh, it's going to be that way huh.... Climb to the tree then go home...

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
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    Err, good point. Actually I used the kiddie-tow "road" bike, though this time I removed the trailer (and the child):


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    Quote Originally Posted by ebnash View Post
    I am assuming "The Tree" is the flat covered section about halfway up?
    I was wondering about that too, wondering which of the many possible trees they could be talking about. But it is blindingly obvious when you get there - the tree is in the middle of the trail! It is flat for a moment and covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loll View Post
    The worst part of Kennedy for me is actually after the initial downhill and after where it goes up easy for a while, and then all of a sudden it gets really steep with two humps back to back. Do you guys attack immediately after the downhill or do you pump steady til you hit the this section?
    Listen to Menso. He climbed it in 27 minutes.

    In the end though, you have to climb it 10x and listen to your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukbloke View Post
    Err, good point. Actually I used the kiddie-tow "road" bike, though this time I removed the trailer (and the child):
    Darn video... you have a trailer and I'm having a hard time keeping up.

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    I'll interpret that as acquiescence.
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    Well, maybe I could have done 20 to the tree today, but would have had nothing left for the rest. I think 20 to the tree seems pretty comparable in terms of overall effort to 20 on Old La Honda, so if you can do one you should be able to do the other. Of course they're totally different rides.

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    Felt too demoralized not breaking the 20 minute barrier. When I do clear it I will do the lollipop loop

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    Oh, it's going to be that way huh.... Climb to the tree then go home...

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    You just did the pro stock bike drag race to the tree eh ? It's all good !
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    Ran into pmarshall and brazilian climber on the trai today. Congrats to both are in order. pmarshall got the sub 20 and B. climber gets the 20/40 combo......on accident. Does it still count if he is not racing/trying for it ? I have good news on my run also. My lungs finally stopped hurting before I got home to Santa Clara. "It's on" will no longer be in my vocabulary. 20 and 40 under club !-1019111327a.jpg
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    I made it I swear!

    I did make it today but Strava has me at 37 mins for the ride up. Sure felt faster than that! Ok so the problem is the Strava segment goes about 50 feet past the tree. I started my watch right at the Kennedy gate and stopped my watch when I actually touched the tree with my arm. I had a stopwatch time of 19:50. My previous best time was 21:48 to the tree on Strava. I pretty much gave it my all and gassed out at the tree. Thinking back, I should have kept going but was excited to see I beat the 20 mins and figured I earned my rest time rolling around in the dirt. Who is next to tame this biatch! Your an uber stud if you can do both on the same ride.
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    Ancient Rascal- I forgot to put this in my previous post. Nice talking to you and Brazilian Climber today. I now wish I would have kept going and taken some time to recover continuing on the way up. I will leave that for the next ride. I told you that I was glad you started this quest but now I think I hate you! That was freakn' hard man! I started really fast and paid for it about half way to the tree. I did concentrate on every section that was not to steep to gear down and push with my birdie legs to keep pumping. I had my vital signs checked by a nurse the other day and had a heart rate of 40bpm. My true resting HR is actually a bit lower. Doesn't mean a thing because I am still a wuss. I checked my HR monitor after today's effort and hit a max of 195!! I am not sure how I am not dead yet. Either it will go to low and I will quietly pass away, or I will die on Kennedy in a sweat heap of a mess. Either way, I will make good Mt. Lion food. Hope you get the magical sub 20 soon. Brazilian Climber is super fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    Ancient Rascal- I forgot to put this in my previous post. Nice talking to you and Brazilian Climber today. I now wish I would have kept going and taken some time to recover continuing on the way up. I will leave that for the next ride. I told you that I was glad you started this quest but now I think I hate you! That was freakn' hard man! I started really fast and paid for it about half way to the tree. I did concentrate on every section that was not to steep to gear down and push with my birdie legs to keep pumping. I had my vital signs checked by a nurse the other day and had a heart rate of 40bpm. My true resting HR is actually a bit lower. Doesn't mean a thing because I am still a wuss. I checked my HR monitor after today's effort and hit a max of 195!! I am not sure how I am not dead yet. Either it will go to low and I will quietly pass away, or I will die on Kennedy in a sweat heap of a mess. Either way, I will make good Mt. Lion food. Hope you get the magical sub 20 soon. Brazilian Climber is super fast.
    Thanks man ! Great to see the both of you for a nice long B.S. session. That damn tree run is worse than going to the top. Pure torture. Gonna be a long time before I get it. I need 10% + to get there. I can't believe how tired I feel from such a short ride. Round # 1 goes to the oak tree. I have said for many years....I am gonna die trying to make the face as I used to call dogmeat. Crap now.....maybe it will be the other side trying for a 20/40. I am on it again next week. You broke some records and some folks's PR's. Dude.....That's messed up ! I'm sure glad I didn't do that....wink wink !
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    20 to the tree? That's a tough one. Note that the Potty to Tree Strava segment actually ends at the right turn well past the tree, as Paul learned to his chagrin.

    I think 22 minutes to the tree is an awesome achievement and should get you at the top in under 40. If you ride only to the tree as Marco did you can go a faster, but 10% faster is unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I did make it today but Strava has me at 37 mins for the ride up. Sure felt faster than that! Ok so the problem is the Strava segment goes about 50 feet past the tree. I started my watch right at the Kennedy gate and stopped my watch when I actually touched the tree with my arm. I had a stopwatch time of 19:50. My previous best time was 21:48 to the tree on Strava. I pretty much gave it my all and gassed out at the tree. Thinking back, I should have kept going but was excited to see I beat the 20 mins and figured I earned my rest time rolling around in the dirt. Who is next to tame this biatch! Your an uber stud if you can do both on the same ride.

    Strava or it didn't happen!!!! lol Just kidding good job Paul, I'm going to have to put the gears back on my bike in order to take this one down it's not going to happen on the SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitWienie View Post
    Strava or it didn't happen!!!! lol Just kidding good job Paul, I'm going to have to put the gears back on my bike in order to take this one down it's not going to happen on the SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitWienie View Post
    Strava or it didn't happen!!!! lol Just kidding good job Paul, I'm going to have to put the gears back on my bike in order to take this one down it's not going to happen on the SS.

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    Yeah the SS will be hard. Your going to easily accomplish this the first time. Nice KOM at the Gap dude. After I do a ride like this I can't imagine how to go as fast as some of you guys. Go do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I did make it today but Strava has me at 37 mins for the ride up. Sure felt faster than that! Ok so the problem is the Strava segment goes about 50 feet past the tree. I started my watch right at the Kennedy gate and stopped my watch when I actually touched the tree with my arm. I had a stopwatch time of 19:50. My previous best time was 21:48 to the tree on Strava. I pretty much gave it my all and gassed out at the tree. Thinking back, I should have kept going but was excited to see I beat the 20 mins and figured I earned my rest time rolling around in the dirt. Who is next to tame this biatch! Your an uber stud if you can do both on the same ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Since I started using Strava, 28:13 to the tree, 49:28 to the top. I have a sub 44 PR from a Kings of Kennedy from a few years ago.

    I gots work to do.
    I'm in ur boat rumpfy. All you need is the 10 % off your 44 PR and the same on my 22.18 and were both in. Before 2012 ? ..... But......I need show up at the Turkey day ride with at least....... something !
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    after you guys achieve your 20 and 40 under on kennedy we can start an under 30 club up stanford side at mission peak

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    after you guys achieve your 20 and 40 under on kennedy we can start an under 30 club up stanford side at mission peak
    Spark that thread up ! Some have done my easy peasy deal already.
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    Can we make it an under 31 club so I can rest?

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    after you guys achieve your 20 and 40 under on kennedy we can start an under 30 club up stanford side at mission peak

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    There is also El Sereno across the town. Under 30 looks about right...Marshal...you are right there at 30 something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    after you guys achieve your 20 and 40 under on kennedy we can start an under 30 club up stanford side at mission peak
    Dang....Mission Peak....New home of the Roasted pig.......Ronnie and the Mission peak / Reservoir dogs will chime in on that. They sure don't want that 20/40 nonsense ..... eh ?
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    HEY...where's that Jill McLaughlin character...looks like she only needs to cover 29 seconds to join the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    after you guys achieve your 20 and 40 under on kennedy we can start an under 30 club up stanford side at mission peak
    To join you have to climb it at night and your bike has to weigh at least 30 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D1PHAM View Post
    To join you have to climb it at night and your bike has to weigh at least 30 pounds.
    Post it then.....Rules and all...I'll just send B.C.'er over there.
    Please send a rep over to do ....... maybe the under 40 part eh ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    Please add the 11 to 15 seconds on to your time to officially register your run.! Thank you ! -AR
    NO NO NO sir! I did some checking and went off my speed and heart rate data. I was at 13mph when I hit the tree and that was at 19:46 according to Garmin. So if I kept going 13mph it would have only taken me 5 seconds to reach the end of the segment. 19:51 sounds good to me. Thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    There is also El Sereno across the town. Under 30 looks about right...Marshal...you are right there at 30 something.

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    I could make this one since my last time up I didn't go as fast as I could have. Now the under 30 up mission peak is out of my reach. Why are we doing this again? Oh yeah for personal glory that nobody cares about. Does it stop me from participating? Hell no because I am an attention whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    NO NO NO sir! I did some checking and went off my speed and heart rate data. I was at 13mph when I hit the tree and that was at 19:46 according to Garmin. So if I kept going 13mph it would have only taken me 5 seconds to reach the end of the segment. 19:51 sounds good to me. Thank you very much
    I was totally messing with you of course...... I am a kidder you know ! I suppose you noticed the 11 seconds I wanted added would put you in @ 20.01 making a non sub 20. So you are first to go sub twenty on this thread and Brazilian climber is first 20/40 combo. fair enough eh ?
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    I hate climbing hills, especially ones with no payoff, but Im tempted to go over there just to try to get into the cool club

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    I was totally messing with you of course...... I am a kidder you know ! I suppose you noticed the 11 seconds I wanted added would put you in @ 20.01 making a non sub 20. So you are first to go sub twenty on this thread and Brazilian climber is first 20/40 combo. fair enough eh ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I could make this one since my last time up I didn't go as fast as I could have. Now the under 30 up mission peak is out of my reach. Why are we doing this again? Oh yeah for personal glory that nobody cares about. Does it stop me from participating? Hell no because I am an attention whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    I hate climbing hills, especially ones with no payoff, but Im tempted to go over there just to try to get into the cool club
    This is basically all Strava stuff anyway. No cool club stuff I hope. I started it up for totally personal reasons to prod myself to go back for those two numbers that I could not quite get. A 20 to the tree and a 40 at the top. Since I'm not fast.... I figured it would be a middle of the road climber challenge for loads of riders. Come over and pin it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    I hate climbing hills, especially ones with no payoff, but Im tempted to go over there just to try to get into the cool club
    Don't just try- do. I know you can climb like the wind and this will be in your pocket in no time. sub 20 to the tree is so much harder than the rest of the ride. I only had about 10 seconds to spare and I tried to make time where I could. This truly is 20 mins of pure torture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    I hate climbing hills, especially ones with no payoff, but Im tempted to go over there just to try to get into the cool club
    If Rox goes and pins it I'm guessing he will hit 19:36/35:38.

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    Sup guys,

    Nice talking to you too PMarshall and Ancient Rascal!
    Very nice chat at the and of the ride! We should gather again soon!

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    Sup guys,

    Nice talking to you too PMarshall and Ancient Rascal!
    Very nice chat at the end of the ride! We should gather again soon!

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    I need to borrow your 20lb climbing machine

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    Don't just try- do. I know you can climb like the wind and this will be in your pocket in no time. sub 20 to the tree is so much harder than the rest of the ride. I only had about 10 seconds to spare and I tried to make time where I could. This truly is 20 mins of pure torture.

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    man for as much as Kennedy sucks butt it sure is a popular here on MTBR!!!! you all are just masochists. the pay off for kennedy is going 50+ down dogmeat; nuts.!!

    Yeah I said sucks butt, masochists, dogmet and nuts in the same thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    man for as much as Kennedy sucks butt it sure is a popular here on MTBR!!!! you all are just masochists. the pay off for kennedy is going 50+ down dogmeat; nuts.!!

    Yeah I said sucks butt, masochists, dogmet and nuts in the same thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    man for as much as Kennedy sucks butt it sure is a popular here on MTBR!!!! you all are just masochists. the pay off for kennedy is going 50+ down dogmeat; nuts.!!

    Yeah I said sucks butt, masochists, dogmet and nuts in the same thread.
    I completely agree.

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    Funny thought occurred to me. I used to think Strava DH was dangerous. Now I see the climbing is an equal foe. Not looking forward to my heart kicking my chest for 40 minutes (or less).

    I am getting close to trying this bugger...just waiting on pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Funny thought occurred to me. I used to think Strava DH was dangerous. Now I see the climbing is an equal foe. Not looking forward to my heart kicking my chest for 40 minutes (or less).

    I am getting close to trying this bugger...just waiting on pedals.
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    Here is the real KOM for the people with short attention span. The threshold is 2 minutes of pain. It is the first climb of Kennedy!!


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    Attention whore galore ! PMPGlory ! He's not gonna be happy till he gets the 20/40 combo. Just sayin !
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    Haha- it would be bad if I made that segment but I didn't. Thanks FC for the present. I haven't made a Strava segment yet but have ridden a few that need to be cleaned up. Not sure what people see when they see these but there are some crazy ones out there. Just like MIssion Peak. One of the segments starts outside the gate that you have to open! Come on people, start your segments at reasonable points! I can gain a few seconds just by asking a hiker to hold the gate open. It is the little things that make up seconds on the course. I am still loving Strava though. I have never ridden this much or this hard.
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    20-40-20 plan

    Since this is all about senseless stupid climbing, I think the challenge could be expanded a bit: I propose the 20-40-20 plan: the goal is to hit sub-20 to the tree, sub-40 to the top, then sub-20 on the Dog Meat climb (after you've gone up the rollers and descended Limekiln, of course), in a single ride. I may have to go hide some choice bottles of beer on the summit as reward/carrots for prospective finishers...

    PS Paul, with regards to the Strava segments: in their default map-type it's kind of hard to accurately define the start and end points of the segments because of the limited zoom; in satellite mode you can zoom in more and it works better, but since most people don't know or bother, a lot of segments are ill-defined - mostly by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHombre View Post
    Since this is all about senseless stupid climbing, I think the challenge could be expanded a bit: I propose the 20-40-20 plan: the goal is to hit sub-20 to the tree, sub-40 to the top, then sub-20 on the Dog Meat climb (after you've gone up the rollers and descended Limekiln, of course), in a single ride. I may have to go hide some choice bottles of beer on the summit as reward/carrots for prospective finishers...

    PS Paul, with regards to the Strava segments: in their default map-type it's kind of hard to accurately define the start and end points of the segments because of the limited zoom; in satellite mode you can zoom in more and it works better, but since most people don't know or bother, a lot of segments are ill-defined - mostly by accident.
    I can add your plan as a revision to the post.... for the hard core climbers. The 20-40-20 climbing crotchstompery plan ?
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    20-40-20 ....... Dang ... now I have to go get some flat pedals and some shoes I can run up dogmeat with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbjedi1 View Post
    19:45 to tree then 37:30 to top. Kinda fizzled out towards the top.
    Jeez! Nice work and killer time on both! I completely understand fizzling out after pushing so hard to the tree. Do you use GPS or stopwatch? I use GPS on every ride now and have forgotten to start my watch on many occasions. The GPS makes it a no brainer most of the time provided you finish the segment you started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbjedi1 View Post
    19:45 to tree then 37:30 to top. Kinda fizzled out towards the top.
    ..... Force felt ! Very nice!
    Suicide by single speed. Work in progress.

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    i just use my watch. With shifters, brake levers, suspension adjustment and remote for my seatpost, last thing I want is more controls on my handlebars!
    A punctured bicycle
    on a hillside desolate,
    will nature make a man of me yet...
    -Morrissey

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