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    1st Annual Rocky Ridge No Dab Challenge!!!!

    I know a lot of you guys have climbed it no-dabs, but many of us have not. Rocky Ridge is not steep, but it is very technical. Extra points for hardtail riders, rigid riders get God-like status. Single speed rigid makes you Master of the Universe (like He-Man)

    I dab 3 times almost every time, in the exact same places - my goal is to hit it this year without touching once.

    Claim your fame, homies. Orale`.

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    I'm up for it weekend next. After yesterday, I'd much rather climb the thing than go down it.
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    damn. I can't no dab, going down....

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    I'm in-so rules? Do we need to do this during a group ride?
    So since Brett does it single speed, hard tail and on a 800 pound bike-maybe we could make a statue of him on top of the hill and hide beer in it??

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    good challenge. last sat 3 dabs but one one to talk to the Law about tires as she was coming down.
    I find it easier on my hardtail. I no dabbed with the nomad only once and the hardtail a handful of times.
    Those don't count though, got to get it done now that the challenge has been started.
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    How does this challenge compare to the dogmeat challlenge for difficulty ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    How does this challenge compare to the dogmeat challlenge for difficulty ?
    It's a lot more technical than Dogmeat, but Dogmeat just beats you down with sheer gravity. Rocky Ridge has plenty of 'rests' going up, but if you don't have the body/bike english, yer goin' down!
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    I always dab just before the switchback which is a huge momentum killer, so I walk back and make sure I clean it the 2nd time. That way I can keep it going past the switchback. Every time, I think "Now I know how to do it, I'll get it next time" but it's hard to account for how much your lungs are hurting AND the finesse required to get your front wheel over/around/through the rocks.

    Good challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    It's a lot more technical than Dogmeat, but Dogmeat just beats you down with sheer gravity. Rocky Ridge has plenty of 'rests' going up, but if you don't have the body/bike english, yer goin' down!
    I put it on the bucket list. I get a kick out of gap's table mountain trail and the manzanita trail @ skeggs.
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    I am totally in for this (had it as a personal challenge anyhow). I've only tried it twice and both on bike bike but was dubbed Sir Dab-A-Lot by my peers who seemed to make it look easy. Bringing XC bike to try next time!

    AR: Dogmeat and this are two completely different animals. One is long, steep, and lung busty, the other is short but very technical. DM is point and shoot and hope for the best, RR is pick your line(s) and hope for the best.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    I would think a squishy Horst Link bike without the brain would fare better than something with a platform built in, like DW or VPP2, with a full open fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    I would think a squishy Horst Link bike without the brain would fare better than something with a platform built in, like DW or VPP2, with a full open fork.
    I'm going to do it on a hardtail with a rigid carbon fork. Maybe go way low on the front tire air pressure. Either way there is little chance of me not extending the landing gear...multiple times
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    It's a lot more technical than Dogmeat, but Dogmeat just beats you down with sheer gravity. Rocky Ridge has plenty of 'rests' going up, but if you don't have the body/bike english, yer goin' down!
    I've crashed climbing Rocky Ridge - punctured my shin with a rock and got a fever that night. That's how technical it is.

    I can clear the "stairs" no problem. It's the switch backs that I have a hard time with. I also walk back about 10-12 feet and clear it - so I tell myself "Okay, that's the line" but I always seem to mess it up when I try to go no dabs. I know there is a line through that is the best way.

    I think the key is to let off on the gas and to maintain energy levels until those dab points. It takes a lot of up-and-oomph to get over some of that stuff, and if you're gassed from trying to haul up it fast initially, it's going to zap you. I think using the flat areas as a "rest" will help.

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    i did it once on my full suspension bike before i broke my leg and that bike was alive(r.i.p.) now i got a full rigid 29er 1x9 and a weak ass right leg, so lets do this!

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    I'm in! Still haven't accomplished this one. I'll try not to endo on the way up and break my rear triangle again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    I'm going to try it on a hardtail with a rigid carbon fork. Maybe go way low on the front tire air pressure. Either way there is little chance of me not extending the landing gear...multiple times
    Nice! When I ride Stiles with my HT and locked out fork, I bounce alot. It throws me off and the rear tire spins as I fall over. It's more technique and approach speed than anything else, I'm sure.

    Anyhow, I'm out of this. I busted up this weekend at Z's and going to stay off the bike for a while.

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    I'm in for this one... I've only ridden there a few times and had to dab several time going up. Good challenge!

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    Where is the trail at?
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    Dang, one of my lifetime goals.

    And I am still awaiting the next TSP ride on flowy single-track Rest up this week Dion so that you can lead us again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I know a lot of you guys have climbed it no-dabs, but many of us have not. Rocky Ridge is not steep, but it is very technical. Extra points for hardtail riders, rigid riders get God-like status. Single speed rigid makes you Master of the Universe (like He-Man)

    I dab 3 times almost every time, in the exact same places - my goal is to hit it this year without touching once.

    Claim your fame, homies. Orale`.
    Time frame? Can't be a first annual without an end date, no? Thanks for the challenge...a worthy one for sure.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Time frame? Can't be a first annual without an end date, no? Thanks for the challenge...a worthy one for sure.
    Eh! Let's get it done by October 1st. That's 3 months, vatos locos.

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    Sweet! I'll be out practicing this coming Sunday
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    Hmm, increased RR traffic. I see a business opportunity.

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    This would be a cake walk for Trials riders. Not so much for us normal human folks with below average climbing abilities, like me. Add me to the statistic of those that have tried and lost count of how many dabs happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbg33k View Post
    Where is the trail at?
    Rocky Ridge is one of the trails in Santa Teresa County Park, in south San Jose. From the top, the first 1/3rd is pretty smooth single track. The middle 1/3rd is something like the surface of Venus. There is a nominal 'trail' that winds between a rock garden that is about as technical as you want to get. Numerous sucker lines that will groove your front wheel before you know what happened. Lots of off camber trickery on the switch backs. All of this on a pretty steep incline, so whether you're climbing or descending, if you miss your line...."You're not gonna have a good time". It's the perfect trail that allows you to tumble and fall climbing or descending! The rock edges on the entire length have a very high cro-moly-Ti- 7075 aluminum-blood content from all the crank arms, pedals, flesh and chain rings that have ended their lives there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    Hmm, increased RR traffic. I see a business opportunity.

    tubes for sale! get your fresh, nice tubes! $100 each! tubes for sale!
    Add band aids and you can open a store front half way up. I almost made it on my first try but since then have had multiple dabs and bleeding knees and shins. I think I have a better chance at completing this one rather than dogmeat. That one is too steep for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Biker View Post
    This would be a cake walk for Trials riders. Not so much for us normal human folks with below average climbing abilities, like me. Add me to the statistic of those that have tried and lost count of how many dabs happened.
    That's funny. I was coming down it yesterday and saw a group of 4 guys climbing it. Thinking they might be the the planned group of us who were meeting I yelled out "are you guys with the MTBR group" Guy looks at me as we pass and says "no, we're just a bunch of dumb asses for thinking this was a good idea" Two hikers who were standing off trail to let us bikers all pass each other just started cracking up when he said that.
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    I can no-dab it about 50% of the time I try it (which is each time I ride at STCP (which is almost every weekend since it is within 5 minutes of my place)). I find it trickier on my DW link bike than I did on my faux bar since the back end seems to kick up if it gets hung up on things.

    For me: Steps are alright. The section after that (between the steps and switchback) messes me up sometimes. Switchback is usually alright. Part that gets me the most often is couple hundred yards just after the switchback (before the right turn) when I'm tired and just stall out on something stupid.

    Oh, and I've totally crashed going in the uphill direction and almost managed to endo somehow as well.
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    Yer on! But being that I am a tallentless hack I doubt ill get this challenge. But hey, worth a shot anyways!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Biker View Post
    This would be a cake walk for Trials riders. Not so much for us normal human folks with below average climbing abilities, like me. Add me to the statistic of those that have tried and lost count of how many dabs happened.
    I don't know, man. I can ride some trials and the hardest part of this thing is being gassed out before you get to the "fun" stuff. With trials riding, you don't have a 600ft. climb before the rocks. If I took a break before the real rocky stuff, I could clear it - no problem - I've done it before. But going no dabs all the way up is difficult because by time you get to the mid-section, you have already done some pretty decent climbing.

    For you RR newbies, the "fun" stuff is halfway up, past the "stairs". After you get through all that, it's a simple rolling single track with some rocks here and there. Clearing the "stairs" was something I haven't accomplished until this year, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    That's funny. I was coming down it yesterday and saw a group of 4 guys climbing it. Thinking they might be the the planned group of us who were meeting I yelled out "are you guys with the MTBR group" Guy looks at me as we pass and says "no, we're just a bunch of dumb asses for thinking this was a good idea" Two hikers who were standing off trail to let us bikers all pass each other just started cracking up when he said that.
    There were 4 of us, but we also saw 4 guys hike-a-biking the mid-section from Mine trail. When we finally started to ascend, there were tow hikers (a man and a woman) which I assumed were the ones you saw.

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    Rocky ridge pics ?

    I have never set foot on that trail. Anyone have pics of the worst areas on RR? Has my hero LP made it no dab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    I have never set foot on that trail. Anyone have pics of the worst areas on RR? Has my hero LP made it no dab?
    This site has some decent pictures, but as always, the pics don't do it justice.

    Living the life of Riley: Santa Teresa Park - Rocky Ridge Trail

    This first pic is "the stairs"

    The 5th pic is where it starts to get crunchy before the infamous switch backs.

    Without the rocks, the actual climb is not bad/steep. It's trying to get over these basketballs and cement buckets is what makes it difficult.

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    I am in on this biznatches!!!!! Only done it twice out of 10-15 times. I will accomplish this feat on my hard tail bike. I will try for this feat tomorrow starting about 930am. If you wish to catch a glimpse of me in all my glory, come on out. I am going to whip this thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall View Post
    I am in on this biznatches!!!!! Only done it twice out of 10-15 times. I will accomplish this feat on my hard tail bike. I will try for this feat tomorrow starting about 930am. If you wish to catch a glimpse of me in all my glory, come on out. I am going to whip this thing!
    Crap...I want in too. I'll try to see you out there around this time but don't wait up. I will try to accomplish this on my bicycle...the one with the two wheels.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Okay, I really thought more of you cleared it - even some of our elites struggle with it! I was for certain Marco has cleared it, and Paul, I thought you get it every time!

    It's on, sistas and brothas... I'm surprised nobody has brought up this challenge yet.

    All I have is my rigid 29'er and On-One 456, I think I have a better chance with my 456. On our ride yesterday, TJ heard my "FAAAAAACCCCCCCC****KKKKKKK!!!!!" every time I put my foot down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    Many 'trail donations' have been given on Rocky Ridge over the years indeed. This is a good challenge, I recommend it. My experiences:

    - on my 30lbs full sus Yeti: I tend to clean it when fresh, in shape and not lazy (which means about 10-20% of the time)
    - on my 29er hardtail: never cleaned it, as the rear always bounces all over the place (section right after the switchback in particular)
    - on my rigid 26" singlespeed: never ridden clean, though I managed to clean all individual 'problems' at one point or another... just not in one run.
    - CX: areyounutz?

    Here's a video including a full descent of RR... you can't see the rocks very well as this was done half in the dark.

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/44439019" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/44439019">STOM ride, June 2012</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user5287822">Dirk dB</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Ugh. Joice. I like how the friggin' nastiest climb there is named after a sweet daycare center lady.

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    Good business model. You sell inner tubes on the trail, I'll sell Stan's kits at the bottom (and cold beer at the top).

    I've lost track of the number rubber bands that go around inner tubes that I've seen on that trail.

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    I must say id rather be trying to make it up RR right now than sitting in a airport bar in LA.
    Same goes for tomorrow....

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    This is a bad challenge given that I just switched over to clipless...

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    You'll be ok-a couple rides and the pedals won't be a issue-the rocks will!

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    I'm not worried about the pedals, I'm worried about knees, hips, ribs, shoulders, elbows becoming friends with the rocks.


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    To get ready for this, I threw about 700 human head sized boulders on my street and took a jackhammer to the open spots then have been riding back and forth all afternoon. My neighbors are super pissed but I think I'm ready.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    I like that!

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    Paul Marshall and I rode it together several months ago, I was right behind him, witnessing his no-dab perfection. He got a pretty freakin quick time up it as well. I, on the other hand (on my fully-rigid SS 32x22 setup) had one minor dab but a dab is still a dab! I would love to master this btch-slapper of a challenge. Time to build up a fully-rigid SS setup again, methinks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I must say id rather be trying to make it up RR right now than sitting in a airport bar in LA.
    Same goes for tomorrow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHombre View Post
    Many 'trail donations' have been given on Rocky Ridge over the years indeed. This is a good challenge, I recommend it. My experiences:

    - on my 30lbs full sus Yeti: I tend to clean it when fresh, in shape and not lazy (which means about 10-20% of the time)
    - on my 29er hardtail: never cleaned it, as the rear always bounces all over the place (section right after the switchback in particular)
    - on my rigid 26" singlespeed: never ridden clean, though I managed to clean all individual 'problems' at one point or another... just not in one run.
    - CX: areyounutz?

    Here's a video including a full descent of RR... you can't see the rocks very well as this was done half in the dark.

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/44439019" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/44439019">STOM ride, June 2012</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user5287822">Dirk dB</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
    You guys are nucking futs descending Rocky Ridge in the dark! Lights or no lights on your bike, that is some serious business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Ugh. Joice. I like how the friggin' nastiest climb there is named after a sweet daycare center lady.
    I was thinking along the lines of a quiet librarian who wasnt exactly hot at first notice, but you were secretly fantasizing about how such a seemingly quiet woman might be a dirty girl when the library closes.
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