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    XTR levers/Marta calipers: works

    a friend of mine had a longtime problem with XTR caliper pistons sticking....
    did all the stuff to fix it..
    fed up, he asked if I could maybe use Marta calipers with his XTR levers as he loved the XTR shifter lever combo
    I thought about it and since they both use mineral oil (I have used Magura mineral oil in XTRs a lot of times with zero issues) I thought that it would be worth a shot...
    I told him to come by early one morning and let's see what we could do...
    and that it was a total crap shoot.. may work, may not

    I used the marta caliper with the magura hose and then at the caliper end of the hose installed the shimano barbed fitting and compression nut, fitted it, bled the brakes and we gave it a quick test ride... wow, felt the same...!
    sweet
    he was all hell bent on doing the other and I told him to ride it and let's see..

    a month later and we did the other brake

    that's been about 6 months ago, no problems, he loves it...

    been meaning to post this for a while..

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    Never say never eh Charles? Someone will always prove you wrong if you do. Great stuff.
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    Double post, see below... This new internet thing must not be perfect yet.
    Last edited by Dan Gerous; 06-29-2005 at 07:45 PM.

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    That's good news for every dual-control users who feel stuck in Shimano all or nothing scheme. I like my XT calipers but it's great to have options if something ever happens... Can Marta SL calipers be bought on their own though?

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    yes, Marta calipers can be bought by themselves, they come with a set of pads
    you will also need to purchase the hoses
    the caliper end is a factory fitting and you cut to length at the lever.
    You then use the shimano barbed fitting and compression nut

    you could do the same thing with the XT levers... (the seperates, not the integrated ones)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes
    you could do the same thing with the XT levers... (the seperates, not the integrated ones)
    What do you mean by 'not the integrated ones'? Aren't the Dual-Controls the 'integrated ones'? Wouldn't that work with any Shimano lever that uses mineral oil? Or do different Shimano lever move different volume of oil per lever pull?

    Also, I'm pretty sure this will void both companies warranties obviously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    What do you mean by 'not the integrated ones'? Aren't the Dual-Controls the 'integrated ones'? Wouldn't that work with any Shimano lever that uses mineral oil? Or do different Shimano lever move different volume of oil per lever pull?
    I think he means like this:


    As you suggest, Shimano indicates that any of their levers will work with any of their calipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes

    that's been about 6 months ago, no problems, he loves it...

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    Any idea if it works with other Magura calipers ??
    Maybe combo like XTR dual contorls and Luise FR calipers would work ?? I don't know if the marta and luise calipers uses similar design and if the oil flow is good/sufficient.

    thanks in advance

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    I would think so
    I have ran a Louise FR front caliper with a Marta lever before

    the louise levers may have a slightly bigger master cylinder but I don't know that for sure..
    (compared to a Marta)

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    Question for you Charles...

    You mention you have used Magura Blue Blood in Shimano brakes without issue... have you had any experience with Shimano mineral oil in Marta brakes?


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    XT levers are much better than Marta levers to me

    My Marta levers got sloppy quick. I hear they are easy to fix once that starts but this is a very lightweight system. I'm not sure why a guy would want to mix xt levers with Marta calipers. Heck! Just go XTR calipers and XT levers.

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