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    Why do disc pads last one race?

    For the second time in a few years I thrashed a set of new disc pads in one 90 minute race. And many other people seem to had the same problems.
    Yes both times it was pouring rain, but one race?

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    Yep. Try braking less.

    The only suggestion I have is go to metallic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro
    Yep. Try braking less.
    Yeah lets all just brake less, ya know hell who even needs brakes
    but on a more serious note I have NEVER heard about pads wearing that much in one race?!?!?!
    Are you talking about MAJOR wear?
    Mamma speed I'm back!!!

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    That just mean brake pads<you which is a good thing. But seriously, how many miles was it?

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    Metallic pads. Steel on steel in the rear. 18 mile race. ~3500 ft of elevation difference. And again I was not the only one.
    The rain seems to be the main cause.

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    Mud can eat pads.

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    Don't use the brakes. They just slow you down...

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    What brakes are you running, and what pads are/were you running?

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    I am running Juicy 7s. Did a 12 hour race this weekend. Started raining 1/2 way though. I still have some pad life left. Brake less.

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    Were the pads properly `bedded` in before using in the race ?

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    It sounds like you had/have Resin pads on your brakes, and that would explain why they didn't last. Resin pads will last quite well in dry conditions, but don't always last that long in wet/muddy conditions. For wet weather braking semi-metalicpads usualy do better.

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    I have to stress bedding in the pads.
    I forgot to bed in a pair of sintered and killed them in one ride!

    do it properly and they will last for ever.

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    I had juice 7's and put alligator mettallic pads in. Put the pads in the oven for 30 minutes at 300 F, (like I used to with my Shimanos). I had the same happen 2 years ago in one muddy race. Then ride 2 years with one set of pads, then ride one day with a set of pads. Mud, and braking is not good with discs it seems. BTW it was atrocious, don't come with the "brake less BS" please.

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    I've been in two horribly muddy races and lost my discs both times. Both on stock BB7 pads. Both in ~90 minute races. And I wasn't alone. All models and brands experienced the same difficulties. Also, both were on somewhat flat courses.

    Bedding has nothing to do with it

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    I too was having this problem with the avid pads, they could last for months if it was dry but they were gone in less than an hour in serious mud. Don't use the stock pads, buy some aftermarket ones, at least, it worked for me.

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    i have 09 elixer 's .the rear is toast from weekend rainfest race .2 rain races ...2 new sets of rear pads. i even put a magura rotor on the back thinking a solid rotor would make them last longer in those conditions.i called avid today..they said stock pads last longer than the optional organic.ive been using stock...go figure.

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    sintered pads ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakarina
    I too was having this problem with the avid pads, they could last for months if it was dry but they were gone in less than an hour in serious mud. Don't use the stock pads, buy some aftermarket ones, at least, it worked for me.

    Which ones did you go with?

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    who makes sintered pads for the avid elixers??????????

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    My metal hope pads are 2 years old and look brand new. I've ridden on plenty of wet days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yater
    My metal hope pads are 2 years old and look brand new. I've ridden on plenty of wet days.



    MUD, everywhere mud. I've ridden my disc brakes on wet days also and have had no adverse affects. Try RACING in MUD. Thick, nasty, all up in your face mud. If your hopes hold up in that crap then you've found a winner and should definitely stick with it. .

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    Plenty of muddy races including 2 ouachita challenges, several 6 and 12hr races, and one 24hr race...even had a few 1st places. Maybe it has something to do with my weight (132lbs)?

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    I rode plenty of wet in the two year episode they lasted. Racings aggressive braking indeed seems to be the difference.

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    I would still say if a pad fails too fast it hasn't been bedded in properly.
    Second to that is the way you brake.

    My dad still has the original sintered pads in his hope brakes from when he bought it, I think 5 ish years or so ago.
    He probably covers more miles than most of this forum put together with english mud.

    He only brakes when he needs to then brakes like he means it.

    Those pads at this wear rate have at least another 5 years and many thousand miles left.

    My braking technique isn't as good so I eat pads faster.

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