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    What brakes for my dos niner?

    I just bought a salsa dos niner about 3 months ago, and the parts spec on it is pretty solid except for the brakes (hayes hfx mags). They are the only thing that is giving me trouble.

    Ok, so they arent giving me trouble so much as I just dont like them. They dont have enough power or modulation for my riding style, and they have no definitive feel of when the pads contact the rotors.

    I have a good amount of expirience with the avid juicy 7's and love pretty much everything about them. Im also looking at the elixir R, but not sure I want to shift away from what I know works for me (juicy 7). Which one of these should I get?

    Any other brakes out there you would recomend? I definitley want hydralic disc brakes, and my price limit is $130 per wheel.

    I plan on using the bike for everything except for shuttle runs. Its gonna see xc races, 24 hours races, trail rides, all day epics, road training with slick tires, just about everything I weigh 185.
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    FWIW , go with what you know .

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    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=31588 and http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=31591 since you already have adapters and rotors these would be perfect unless you are set on getting new rotors. Free shipping and only $16ish over budget.

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    Those hopes are sick. However I dont think you realize that the prices on chain reaction are in pounds, not dollars. They come to about $165 per wheel before shipping. I'd love to have them, but they are too much money (I just spent $1000 on the bike so cash is tight right now)
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    no i have it setup so all prices are in us dollars. in the top right there is a box where you can setup all your preferences. note the $. $138.01.
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    Chain reaction is based in the UK, therefore their default prices are in pounds. This "" is a pounds symbol, not a euro symbol. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sign)

    And the hopes cost 105 pounds, which converts to 158 US dollars. (http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html)

    But your right too, their price for US dollars is only $138, which means that either their prices vary by country, or they did their math wrong...because I triple checked mine and I know its right lol. Im not complaining though...Might have to order me a set =)
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    actually they cost 91.30 and that comes out to 137.426 USD using that calc. whatever they are in pounds they are $138 and thats a sick deal. thats €105.35 euros

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    @Destin - because you are outside of the EU (European Union), the VAT rate is deducted from the price.

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    Not sure which Hope's you are being directed to, but be aware that they are generally underpowered compared with other brakes in their class (or weight bracket). I have on bikes at the moment Juicy Ultimates, Formula R1, Elixir CR Mag and Hope mono mini X2 Pro. The latter are the weakest of the lot and are more prone to fade/pump.

    I would say a set of Clearance juicy's would be the way to go. Ultimates are half price at the moment on CRC, but they may be out of the budget
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    Hayes Stroker Trail----69.99 a wheel at Jensonusa right now. Steal at that price

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRandall
    Not sure which Hope's you are being directed to, but be aware that they are generally underpowered compared with other brakes in their class (or weight bracket). I have on bikes at the moment Juicy Ultimates, Formula R1, Elixir CR Mag and Hope mono mini X2 Pro. The latter are the weakest of the lot and are more prone to fade/pump.

    I would say a set of Clearance juicy's would be the way to go. Ultimates are half price at the moment on CRC, but they may be out of the budget
    For the price of the ultimates he could get his choice of any brake in the hope lineup for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micro224
    For the price of the ultimates he could get his choice of any brake in the hope lineup for less.
    Er - no actually .

    The Aus version of CRC has the ultimates are $180/end approx at sale price (in Aus$). The cheapest Hopes come in at $170/end, up to close to $300/end for the race.
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    Er - no actually the prices per side for the ultimates are $168.26 for front and $210.32 for rear. as for the hopes the X2's are $138.01 the M4's are $157.73 and the V2's are $164.30. all prices are US dollars. so $378.56 vs $328.60 on the high end.

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    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have had bad experiences with hayes in the past (and right noe actually). I refuse to buy hayes brakes. Idc how great the new ones are. Im really leaning towards a clearence set of juicys for $100 per wheel. Is it worth it to pay an extra $30 per wheel for the Elxir R's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destin
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have had bad experiences with hayes in the past (and right noe actually). I refuse to buy hayes brakes. Idc how great the new ones are. Im really leaning towards a clearence set of juicys for $100 per wheel. Is it worth it to pay an extra $30 per wheel for the Elxir R's?
    having owned nothing but BB7's and Codes, I am not sure how valid my opinion is, so take it with a grain of salt. I have heard some people have problems with the Juicy series of brakes, but it could just be the sheer volume they are sold in, but I haven't heard anyting meaningfully bad about the Elixir's. If it were my money I would spring for the Elixir's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4 stealth
    having owned nothing but BB7's and Codes, I am not sure how valid my opinion is, so take it with a grain of salt. I have heard some people have problems with the Juicy series of brakes, but it could just be the sheer volume they are sold in, but I haven't heard anyting meaningfully bad about the Elixir's. If it were my money I would spring for the Elixir's.
    Right. Ive heard the horror stories about the juicy's too, however everyone I know that has ever used them hasnt had a single problem (except the horrible sqealing when they get wet). Idk anyone that has the elixir yet, and ive never even seen one in real life yet!! I havent heard anything about them (good or bad), but they havent been around nearly as long as the juicy's so that could explain that, idk
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    what about a set of formula oro k24's? The are on ebay for $216 for both wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destin
    what about a set of formula oro k24's? The are on ebay for $216 for both wheels
    not a huge fan of formula but that is a killer deal and i would go with them for sure.

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    Ok so it's down to 2 choices. The avid elixir r for $210 (both wheels) or the fdrmula oro k24 for $230 for both wheels. Which one should I buy and why?
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    I don't know how they compare as far as brakin power and modulation because I don't know a ton about the elixers but I do know that many many people are very happy with their k24's. The down side for the formulas is parts can be hard to come by and customer service can be lacking. That being said I would still take the k24's

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    Just pulled the trigger on the k24's. The biggest reason I did is because I read the reviews, and out of the alomst 60 reviews not one person had a real weakness to mention, and none of the reviewers had any major problems. The elixirs got good ratings, but they had tons of weaknesses listed and alot of people had trouble with them. Thanks for all the help everyone: I got a great deal on these so here is the link to them if anyone is interested (i am in no way affiliated with the seller, sharing this with you benefits me in no way whatsoever) http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Formula-Oro...item58850caa88
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    Good for you bro i really hope you enjoy your new brakes. Post back and let us know what you think. Also i wouldnt mind hearing how it was dealing with that ebayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micro224
    Good for you bro i really hope you enjoy your new brakes. Post back and let us know what you think. Also i wouldnt mind hearing how it was dealing with that ebayer.
    Thanks man, I hope I enjoy them too!! I'll definitley post back and let you know what I tihnk of them. They should be here by next friday. As far as the ebayer goes, I bought a headset off of him a few months ago, and I didnt have any complaints. He shipped fast, and the item came as described. He was a little slow to respond to my messages, but that isnt too big of a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micro224
    I don't know how they compare as far as brakin power and modulation because I don't know a ton about the elixers but I do know that many many people are very happy with their k24's. The down side for the formulas is parts can be hard to come by and customer service can be lacking. That being said I would still take the k24's
    Who do you know that has had poor customer service from Formula? Chris Costello at Formula USA is one of the best in the business as far as bending over backwards to make sure people are happy with the products his company sells.

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    Got the new brakes about a week ago, but didnt get to ride them off road until yesterday. I really like the feel of them, and they have enough power for me...but they arent as powerful as my cousins juicy 7's. Then again he is running sintered pads and im pretty sure mine are organic. Plus mine might not be fully broken in, although they should be since I rode around the city for at least 2 hours, stopping hard every few seconds to break them in. The ebayer was great, he shipped fast and the brakes were well packed. Everything was included except for one rotor bolt, but I might have dropped it so I cant blame him. Either way, I had 12 old ones from taking the original rotors off so it wasnt a big deal
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