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    Warning Gnarlygig

    Gnarlygig, this is a warning to you about your reviews and your postings here.

    Number One, your review is NOT a valid review and I have removed it. Your review is a personal insult. This is definitely NOT allowed.

    Number Two, you have made a customer service rant, veiled slightly with some comments about the products. As per our guidelines, "You ranted about poor customer service rather than reviewing the product. Comments about customer service may be included in your review, but it should not be your whole review."

    Our Product Reviews section is a place for mtn. bikers to exchange information about mtn. bikes and mtn. bike products. They are not a place to thumb your nose at someone, or to attempt to get back at someone.

    Mike T. works damn hard around here and contributes a LOT to what makes MTBR a great website. It is entirely unfair and unfounded for someone to question his integrity, especially after all he's done and continues to do. He volunteers many hours of his own time to help check the product reviews for quality, and he does this all on his own time and for no pay. The Disc Brake FAQ that you see in the upper right hand corner of this board exists because Mike (and others) worked on it, to share information with other users and viewers of our forums.

    If you scan the other Marta reviews, you will see plenty of other negative rating reviews that still stand.

    Also, please refrain from the unneccessary swearing in your posts. You have some valid things to say, but your personal attacks and insults will not be allowed.

    Thanks in advance for your compliance.

    -gregg kato, Site Manager MTBR.com

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    OK GK, at least your taking THIS part seriously...

    "You have some valid things to say".....I was beginning to think I was on a different planet!

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    Wow, that seems kind of lame to me...

    I doubt you'd have pulled his review if it were about a shimano product.

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    I would have pulled his review regardless of what product it was on.

    -g

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    Yeah, I remember all those

    (insert your favorite product to bash like RS, Cannondale, Ellsworth....) SUCKS! posts that have been removed in the past by administrators. Or maybe I don't. It just seems awfully convenient that someone posts issues they've had with Magura products AND customer service on two message boards, only to have them both quickly deleted, and to get a freaking warning. I read his post (not his review, how could I because it was removed) and it seemed totally reasonable to me. It sounded like he was treated the same way a lot of PO'd ellsworth owners have been treated when they had warranty issues. But I guess when you have members of the Magura Cult (or is it Mafia?) in charge, you can't expect to get away with too much criticism of Magura or its products. Yeah, and I find that lame.

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    warned? more like banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve3
    Don't forget the censoring of the Ellsworth threads.


    Yes, yes don't forget!!!!!

    No surprise you making this comment. It was far from censoring, the threads became stupid flame wars making no progress, people picking on others, lots of non Ellsworth riders including themselves in heated debates as if they were hard done by etc etc. So it made nothing but sense to lock/remove those threads.
    Trev!

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    No good Was Gnarlygig warned privatly?

    Seems like this kind of warning would come in the form a pm or email.Unless he has been warned previously and has not changed his ways. If this is a first warning it seems pretty lame of an admin of a site of this size to act like that.

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    Using the same channel

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardline
    Seems like this kind of warning would come in the form a pm or email.Unless he has been warned previously and has not changed his ways. If this is a first warning it seems pretty lame of an admin of a site of this size to act like that.
    It sounded to me like GRig's post was laced with a bit o' smack. Remeber, we are all guests here. If you talk trash in someone's house, you better believe they will let you know(and show you the door). JMPOV.

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    remember, this is their website
    they can do anything they please
    no one is paying anything for the service this board offers

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes
    remember, this is their website
    they can do anything they please
    no one is paying anything for the service this board offers
    But Charles, only if that "service" is a forum to post on.

    The real "service" of mtbr is all the content we, as posters, contribute.

    But I can't necessarily disagree with the website exercising their authority as they see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedüb Nate
    But Charles, only if that "service" is a forum to post on.

    The real "service" of mtbr is all the content we, as posters, contribute.

    But I can't necessarily disagree with the website exercising their authority as they see fit.
    There are posting guidelines both for reviews and the forums to keep the chaos to a minimum. Said individual violated both, had his hissy fits deleted and subsequently escorted to the door. Of course I'm sure there was more that went on backstage that we aren't privy too as well. Anyway, I'm sure he will be back. Hopefully, we can put all this brake rub nonsense behind us and move forward with good bike talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew
    There are posting guidelines both for reviews and the forums to keep the chaos to a minimum. Said individual violated both, had his hissy fits deleted and subsequently escorted to the door. Of course I'm sure there was more that went on backstage that we aren't privy too as well. Anyway, I'm sure he will be back. Hopefully, we can put all this brake rub nonsense behind us and move forward with good bike talk.
    No argument there -- just pointing out *who* truly makes mtbr what it is.

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    Warned first. Warning not heeded, posted multiple spams in retaliation. Then banned.

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    While i don't completely agree with what gnarlygig said, this brings up a point that trek, cannondale, and ellsworth's are bashed all the time with out recourse. And also why isn't there a shimano thread? They are the largest parts supplier, i mean we have a thread for K2 bikes (nothing against them, but they are a tiny contributor to our sport when compared to shimano), so why not add a shimano thread?

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