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    Third time the charm for Avid XX brakes??

    Got my dream hardtail three weeks ago.
    A 2010 S-Works Stumpumper HT 29er.
    Full Sram XX.
    Heading out the door the wrench said to keep an eye on the brakes.
    First ride it was obvious something was****ed up.
    I've had better stopping power with XTR V brakes.
    But then I've just gotten my Formula R-1s broken in and am spoiled??
    So i take em back to the shop and they order new ones under warranty of course.
    Last Saturday I take bike in to get new brake set mounted,go shopping and come back
    to see my wrench roll eyes and say how about leaving the bike and we'll
    order another set.
    I do appreciate my LBS in the effort to get me hooked up on a working set.
    There comments about the Avid XX were:"they seem hit and miss.But when you get a pair that works right you are set for good".
    We'll see.
    LS
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    dang that is a sweet bike, sux about the brakes, i love sram but not avid.

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    Wait a minute. You noticed on the first ride that your brand new brakes on your new bike didn't stop well so you took it back to the shop and they gave you another set? Don't you realize that brand new brake pads need a few rides in order to break-in/seat themselves properly? For DH riding usually 3-4 runs will do it, but for XC since you're not on the brakes very often it could take a few rides.

    I'm not trying to hate, but as a mechanic I'm dumbfounded that a shop wouldn't tell you this instead of just swapping brakes for another new set that would surely do the same thing.

    Am I missing something?

    FWIW new brake sets aren't "hit or miss". A proper bleed and set-up goes a long way. I would find a new mechanic.

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    Yeah yer missing the fact I didn't mention that the levers were sticking and a few other items I left out to make the story easily comprehensible.
    It had NOTHING to do with the pads.
    I know all about the "bedding in" process.
    I just went thru it with the Formulas.
    My wrench is great.
    You I don't know about.
    Not trying to "hate"??
    What are you 15?
    LS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    First ride it was obvious something was****ed up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    Yeah yer missing the fact I didn't mention that the levers were sticking and a few other items I left out to make the story easily comprehensible.
    It was obvious to you something was ****ed up, but since you left out a few other items you left your post open to misinterpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    My wrench is great.
    You I don't know about.
    LS
    The inability to get a brand new set of primo XC brakes to work correctly TWICE is surely the sign of a top-notch mechanic.

    For what it's worth I've been a bike mechanic for 8 years and the head mechanic at one of this country's most popular bike parks for the last 2 seasons. Bike park means downhill. Downhill means lots of work with brakes.

    I'll keep my mouth shut though, best of luck to you.

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    And YOU over reacted like a typical know it all
    internet idiot.
    Don't "hate" on me bro!
    LS
    not 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    And YOU over reacted like a typical know it all
    internet idiot.
    Don't "hate" on me bro!
    LS
    not 15
    Wow.

    Again, best of luck to you man.

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    lol @ this thread
    Ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    And YOU over reacted like a typical know it all
    internet idiot.
    Don't "hate" on me bro!
    LS
    not 15
    Yup, sounds more like you're 14 not 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    And YOU over reacted like a typical know it all
    internet idiot.
    Don't "hate" on me bro!
    LS
    not 15

    Well, with the "yer" and "thru", who knows.....

    But three sets to get it right?? Let us know how it goes.....

    Not to knock you, but I'd say most of us here set up our own brakes....with better than a 33% percent rate (assuming the last set works). Did your mechanic tell you what was wrong?

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    My XX brakes have worked perfectly from the start. To give you an idea how well the SRAM warranty is, I had a pair replaced because they got scratched and some of the paint was peeling. They were working perfectly but SRAM still sent me two brand new pairs (with new pads!) within three days. The new ones are also flawless and are actually better now that the adjustments are indexed.

    So I guess I got lucky twice.

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    Don't hate on me bros.....
    I'll let ya know how it goes.........
    Bros
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    XTR V-brakes stop great so I don't get your reference point.

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    Well, maybe he is comparing them to XTR v brakes because he has the calipers set up to bind on the rims. That would explain a lack of function.
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    I feel like I'm missing some kind of joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by kan3
    I feel like I'm missing some kind of joke
    Here's the joke:

    "Heading out the door the wrench said to keep an eye on the brakes.
    First ride it was obvious something was****ed up."

    If I just spent that kind of coin on a brand new bike and this is what the mechanic told me as I was leaving the shop, I would find a new shop.

    The fact that he couldn't get it right the second time either is just funny. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to set-up brand new brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougie
    Here's the joke:

    "Heading out the door the wrench said to keep an eye on the brakes.
    First ride it was obvious something was****ed up."

    If I just spent that kind of coin on a brand new bike and this is what the mechanic told me as I was leaving the shop, I would find a new shop.

    The fact that he couldn't get it right the second time either is just funny. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to set-up brand new brakes.
    I bought a set of Avid Elixer brakes on Ebay and had to take it to 3 because i had the hoses changed to Jagwire hoses and the 1st 2 shops couldnt get it right and had no idea how to bleed Avid Elixers. Finally i drove an hr to where i knew for sure it would finally be done right. I must say it was pretty sad.
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    Just because they changed the name to Sram XX doesn't change the fact that they are Avid hydros
    "It looks flexy"

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    What an odd little bunch of internet shut in "haters".
    Seems everyone is ready to point the finger at my wrench as incompitent.
    I don't think so.
    His past work,which I know and you DON"T know,is exemplery.
    If he says they are ****ed up then they are ****ed up.

    Do a search on these brakes.
    The most problematic POSs on the market.

    Ride some Formula R-1s and then write about your XTR Vs.
    You can't preach to someone who has there mind made up.
    You'll believe what you want to believe.
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    Everybody else thinks yer an a$$hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lickety Split
    You can't preach to someone who has there mind made up.

    God loves you.
    Yep, you've already decided that your mechanic is "compitent." Also, there is no God.

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    He also is very abel.
    Muslims will be upset with your no god comment.

    I'll wrap this thread up with one last comment.
    I am surprised by the amount of people who were very quick to point the finger at my LBS wrench.
    Especially when the brakes in question have a reputation of being problematic.
    If not just total sheeit.
    LS

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    This is great keep it coming!

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