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    Steel braided hose?

    Is there any downside, other than weight of running a steel braided hose?

    Trying to decide to go with normal or steel on my new Hope Tech M4's.

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    Kein nachteil und in meiner Erfahrung gibt es kein unterschiedliches Gefuhl. Meine Bremsen haben Hope "steel hoses" und die beiden funktionieren ausreichend.

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    JC may have covered everything there, but since I can't read German, I'll throw in my 2 cents...LOL!

    You didn't mention what brand of steel hoses you'd use. I have actually seen some that weren't coated or sheathed in plastic to protect the frame and other bits, so that can be a downside. Only use sheathed versions.

    I've used braided steel on bicycles, motorcycles, and cars/trucks. I've never failed to detect an improvement. It's not always big, but it's usually noticeable. The biggest impact that I believe it has on a bicycle is the rear. The longer run of brake hose seems to benefit the most when a braided steel line is used. I've felt the most improvement there when everything else was left alone and only the line was changed. I've only used Goodridge lines, but surely there are other quality versions available.

    Your question was about "downside". The Goodridge hardware that attaches to the calipers was first rate and adjustable...that is, rotateable. If you use another brand, just make sure you'll be happy with how the hardware works.

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    I'm probably going with Hope Tech M4's and I believe their hoses are made by Goodridge?

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    The Hope hoses are made by Goodridge, but the fittings are standard Hope design - the same fittings you'd get on the plastic/nylon hoses. If you find that the hose is twisted, the steel shroud can be loosened and the hose rotated to achieve its ideal curvature

    I would agree with TNC that the most obvious performance change will be felt in the rear brake, although it is also detectable on a long-travel fork set-up.

    Other than a hole in your wallet, which is less so when you upgrade at original purchase, for minimal performance gains, I can't think of a down-side to braided hoses.
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    I can. That damn twisting, Enough to send you nuts.

    You cannot beat black regular hose.

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    "I can. That damn twisting, Enough to send you nuts."

    It's a problem with you, not the hose. Twists are easy to fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUK
    "I can. That damn twisting, Enough to send you nuts."

    It's a problem with you, not the hose. Twists are easy to fix.
    hokey cokey



    er.. how?

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    Goodridge Hoses?

    Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes.
    Good luck with that, mister 300-Mile Turn Radius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9speed
    er.. how?
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    Never had twisting issues. Rear feels slightly firmer, (I think) but for me it's the resistance to kinking that I find most useful

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    With the Hope fittings twist will not be an issue.

    I used Goodridge fittings and the insert is not just a slide into the hose but rather you need to screw them on and so the 'twist' will be an issue but with a bit of thought and trial and error, you can always easily get round the 'twist'.

    No real issue really, but if you call a couple of grammes an issue then it will be

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