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    Should I ditch my Juicy Three's for BB7's?

    Hey all, last weekend I bought a new-to-me 2007 Santa Cruz Superlight. The previous owner disclosed that the front brake (Avid Juicy Three) had a loose and sticky lever, and probably needed a bleed. Well once I got the bike home and added a few parts from other bikes I've had (seat, seatpost, king headset, 1x9 gear) I noticed that the line has a crimp in it, perhaps from the zip tie. This is my first bike with disc brakes, and all the shops around Sacramento want about $50 for the line and the bleed, plus I'm not sure about the wear of the pads.

    My question is, would it be better to just buy a front set of BB7's (I already have a set of SD levers) that come with new pads rather than paying a shop for a line and a bleed? I am reasonably certainn after watching some YouTube vids that I can install a set of BB7's, and eventually add them to the rear. Also, if I kept the hydros, I would want the bleed kit to do myself, which is seems to be right at $50~ give or take a couple dollars. Seeing as how I was always ok with V-brakes, which would make the most sense for a weekend warrior that rides mostly XC?

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    Screw the bleed kit and get F & R BB7's. You don't need resetting pads.

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    BB7s are much nicer too
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Is PricePoint probably the cheapest place for them now? Also, does standard brake cable work with them? Would I need to purchase that as well? I'm assuming I would.

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    PP may be...you just gotta shop around.
    Your old cables will work, but some compressionless housing such as Flak Jackets or Ripcords will work better.
    Plust it's always nice to start off with a fresh set of cables
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Or just ride the hydro's like every one else.

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    IME, the two brakes are very comparable performance wise.
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.


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    Well I have done the math and it will cost me more to switch than it will to just fix the hydros... I'm thinking I'll just get the kit, buy a new hose, and ride the hydros until I hate them... if that ends up being the case... the rear brake does feel really nice, and the modulation is so much better than a V-brake.

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    bb7's are sick. if you need help let me know, i'm in the sacramento area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__ View Post
    IME, the two brakes are very comparable performance wise.
    really man?
    you musta had some badly set up bb7s
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Or just ride the hydro's like every one else.
    herp!
    WTH - that does not make sense.

    ...ahh, I get it!, always stirrin the pot
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    I like BB7s alot however it makes sense to me to repair the hydros yourself if you are so inclined?

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    I have both brakes and like them both.

    I do prefer the Juicy 3s just because they require less finger power and feel better.

    I can maintain control of the bike going downhill at 30 mph with 1 finger and little force with the Juicys.

    My BB7s require 2 fingers every now and then.

    My stock BB7s with FR-5 levers have a degree of cable stretch. This gives it a springy feel. Like a hyrdro that needs a bleed. .

    Hydros will require a bleed at least once a year. When you bought used, you already bought into your first bleed. A new piston and seal kit is 10 bucks.

    At the end of the day, you will have to decide if you want the hydros or not. Youre probably looking at 120 bucks for new BB7s.

    A new bleed kit (40), Piston n Seal Kit (10x2), Snap Ring Pliers (10) and a bottle of fluid (5) will set you back $ 75.

    There is the risk that caliper seals may also go bad depending on the present condition of your brakes.

    I wouldnt worry about the pads until you need them.

    Chose your poison.

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    I could sell my BB7s if only money is holding you back. I have a set with SpeedDial 7's lying around and could throw in some extra spare cables and housing. Contact me by PM if you are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    really man?
    you musta had some badly set up bb7s
    You can use the same pads and rotors with either brake. They have a different lever feel no doubt, but for a 160 lb XC rider like me, either brake can get the job done.

    I've been using BB7s for years, and have demoed Juicies on various occasions.
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    PM'd ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    really man?
    you musta had some badly set up bb7s
    Or you must have had some badly set up Juicy 3's. I have both, and I'll take the Juicy 3's any day. They are comparable in terms of stopping power (both will easily lift the back wheel if I squeeze the front brake, or skid the back wheel if I squeeze the back brake), but the Juicy 3's have a better lever feel, take a bit less force on the lever (at least in my setup) and are essentially maintenance free except for bleeding every few years. It took a while to get the Juicy 3's set up well, but now that they are, they're great.
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    BB7's work much better when paired up with Avid Ultimate levers. The CNC precision and sealed cartridge pivot bearings of the Ultimate levers make a noticeable difference.
    Abandoned the 26" wheel in May '03

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    ^^^ is it 'worth it' after I'm fine w/ my SD-7s?
    I mean, is it 'that good'?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    I'm also curious to the speed dial ult comment. Is it really ten times better than sd7? Because that is the price difference berween two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailmax View Post
    I'm also curious to the speed dial ult comment. Is it really ten times better than sd7? Because that is the price difference berween two.
    I'm not big on bike, or anything else, bling. However, I do have a pair of Ultimates for each of my mtb's. The most that I have paid for either set is $180. They are worth it to me.
    Abandoned the 26" wheel in May '03

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