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    Planning ahead of disc purchase

    I plan on getting a set of Hayes MX-2 Mech discs in about 6 months. Im trying to decide which lever is best. Its a toss up between the Avid Fr-5 or the Avid Sd-7.

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    Why Hayes mech discs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trojan_source
    I plan on getting a set of Hayes MX-2 Mech discs in about 6 months. Im trying to decide which lever is best. Its a toss up between the Avid Fr-5 or the Avid Sd-7.
    Why not Avid BB7 brakes?

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    If you're getting Avid levers go with Avid brakes, they have much more favorable reviews.
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    trojan_source - You'll notice everyone is a Avid fan around here. I'm not. Stick with your original choice!
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    Yeah, I just read up on the BB7's and I think Ill go with those instead. Ill be buying the BB7's in about 6 months but I need to buy new levers in a week or so. I have my eye on the SD-7's but I want to make sure that they will work with the BB7's or do I have to get the FR-5's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    trojan_source - You'll notice everyone is a Avid fan around here. I'm not. Stick with your original choice!
    I'm not an "Avid fan" other than the fact that the Avid cable disc is probably the #1 rated brake in exsistence. I don't own Avids but have extensively tested them. I prefer my hydraulic discs. But the poster is considering what is advertised as an "entry level" brake even on Hayes' own site. To refer to Avid 7 with such a term would be laughable at best. The Avid is a great brake and I don't mean a great "cable" brake.

    Heck the MX2 isn't even listed in mtbr's Product Reviews. The Avid cable disc has 554 reviews.

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    You will also notice I never mentioned Avids, even though I am the only one that replied that uses them. I just was curious why t_s was looking at the Hayes.

    Have you used the Hayes MX-2 or know anything about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trojan_source
    Yeah, I just read up on the BB7's and I think Ill go with those instead. Ill be buying the BB7's in about 6 months but I need to buy new levers in a week or so. I have my eye on the SD-7's but I want to make sure that they will work with the BB7's or do I have to get the FR-5's?
    Either lever will work fine. The SD-7 will let you tune the feel and power off the brake better. You could use them with the Hayes, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    You will also notice I never mentioned Avids, even though I am the only one that replied that uses them. I just was curious why t_s was looking at the Hayes.

    Have you used the Hayes MX-2 or know anything about it?
    Yes I've had some time spent with Hayes MX-2 brakes.
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    i've been using the hayes mx-1's for the past year and have been satisfied. i've been doing a lot of hard technical ups and downs recently and have found them to be a bit grabby in steep situations. better than most V's though, espcecially in nasty conditions.

    not bad brakes, but they're not as good as the bb7's or hydraulics.
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    MX-2s Suck. Period. You would be better off grabbing the tire with your hand. Get avids.

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    I see no one has YET mentioned any of Shimano's mech disc brakes. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    I see no one has YET mentioned any of Shimano's mech disc brakes. Interesting.
    I refuse to buy anything Shimano.

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    So you are one of those guys. That's to bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    So you are one of those guys. That's to bad.
    Actually I am as well, but it is due to Shimano's customer service and lack of durability in the parts, not sure why he doesn't like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    trojan_source - You'll notice everyone is a Avid fan around here. I'm not. Stick with your original choice!
    No I just made a common sense reply, I am actually a Magura fan I would never personally run cable brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    I see no one has YET mentioned any of Shimano's mech disc brakes. Interesting.
    Maybe its because they suck as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat T.
    Actually I am as well, but it is due to Shimano's customer service and lack of durability in the parts, not sure why he doesn't like them.
    I've never had a problem with Shimano. Of course I have yet to deal with them on a personal level or deal with their CS but as far as Shimano's durability I have yet to have a problem. I used to own a '96 Kona Lava Dome with Shimano STX parts and it shifter crisper and cleaner than my new 9-speed setup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat T.
    No I just made a common sense reply, I am actually a Magura fan I would never personally run cable brakes.
    I haven't had the luxury or the funds as of yet to put hydros on my bike. I like cable run discs due to the low-level maintainence and I don't have to bleed them. Someday I'll try hydros but magura will not be my first choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarzocchiFork
    Maybe its because they suck as well.
    I disagree. For my style of riding my Deore mech disc brakes work fine.
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    Well, for you I guess they are fine, but I cant stand em. Hydros actually need less maintenence than mechs when installed properly.

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    Maybe. Yet every so often you have to bleed them right? Nasty business I hear. How can my Deore brakes have more maintenence? I simply adjusted the cable and thats it. No expensive bleed kit to buy no expensive DOT fluid to buy. Just a turn of a allen wench is all my shimano brakes require to stay in tune.

    By the way I might add that since I've installed them I haven't had to screw with them at all. And I have had no notice in modulation even while attemting steep sections of technical singletrack.

    I suppose you think the Avid BB7 are not as good as hydos either???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    Yet every so often you have to bleed them right? Nasty business I hear.............no expensive DOT fluid to buy. Just a turn of a allen wench is all my shimano brakes require to stay in tune. By the way I might add that since I've installed them I haven't had to screw with them at all.
    I proposed, edited and wrote the FAQ on this page to help combat misinformation, rumor and innuendo such as this. In my last two sets of hydraulic brakes (about 2.5 years total or is it 3.5 years?) I haven't HAD to bleed them ONCE. Nasty business? How would you know if you've never done it? I can't imagine what could be "nasty" about it. Expensive DOT fluid? Is $3 at Walmart expensive to you? If so, then I guess it is. But then two inner brake cables would be expensive wouldn't they? Oh yeah and I haven't had to "screw with" my hydraulic brakes either - and that's for the last six years. Beat that.

    Please stop listening to the unlucky, the incompetent and the misinformed and perpetuating their drivel.
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    Well then I guess I have been misinformed... I apoligize for that.

    Be that as it may I have had some saddle time with Avid Juicy 7 brakes. Awesome power and modulation. Last time I checked my friend hasn't had to mess with the Avids ever since he bought them.

    I just can't justify spending that kind of money for my brakes. It took me a few years to upgrade to these Deore mech discs that I got and I had to save for awhile to get those.
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    FYI: I have used / do use Avid Mechs, Hayes Mech (MX1 only) and Shimano Deore Mechs. They all work well when set up and bedded. Avid's & Hayes inboard adjuster seize in winter salt. Deore pads wear fast. Hayes takes a long while to bed in.

    I also ride Shimano & Magura hydraulics (plus a Formula) and they have thier problems too, but I do prefer the hydraulics. Bleeding brakes is not hard, but not for everyone, and if it's not for you, sometimes its difficult to find an lbs that does a good job. I probably average more than one bleed a year, but I ride and abuse them alot.

    Original question: both levers will work fine, on either brake.

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