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    New Brakes from Hope revealed at Eurobike!

    I just saw a sneak peek of the Hope Tech3 Levers posted on Hopes Instagram feed. They look like they retain the same lever, but have a different MC. Anyone else got any dirt?
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    Not sure I'm diggin that MC...

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    ^^^ yeah, that's the pic I saw as well. Gotta see the rest of it before I decide. Might just make the tech levers a little cheaper!!
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    Yeah, definitely want to see some better pics. Look at the side view too -- looks pretty bulky. If anything, I would have liked to see a more slimmed down design than the current tech/tech evo.

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    Yeah, I have faith in Hopes engineering department. They historically have turned out good looking, well-machined bits so I'll wait before I pass judgment on these. What it kind of looks like is that they've rotated the MC so that its inline with the brake line (like a shimano or avid).

    Would also be nice if they did away with the flip-flop lever. Having twice the number of seals means twice the opportunity for leaks.
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    The other thing I gotta remember with this is that they are NOT going to come in that color scheme . . .
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    Some nice big photos over at VitalMTB...

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    So a Tech3 looks like a chunky Race lever with the Tech BPC stuff... I can live with that.

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    A revised M4 Caliper - the Enduro4 - as well was announced.

    I'm torn . . . I really like the look of the existing Tech Levers, but lower weight and more power, plus 2 fewer seals is really appealing. I'll be curious to see if there's a price bump on these as well.

    Tech3 Levers + a V4 (f) and E4 (r) would be a pretty good AM combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    A revised M4 Caliper - the Enduro4 - as well was announced..................
    How much more could they revise the M4 without making it into the V4? Can't wait for more detail

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-one1 View Post
    How much more could they revise the M4 without making it into the V4? Can't wait for more detail
    I think the notable things are weight savings and finally re-routing the hose to the inboard side with the bleed valve on the outboard side. Makes every bit of sense to run it that way. Make bleeding easier and reduces risk of getting snagged.
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    From what I saw, the Tech 3 lever is an upgrade to the Tech Evo lever to minimise conflict with various shifters. In achieving this, they had to get rid of the flip-flop nature of the lever, so it is now restricted to sides. Otherwise, there is some percentage of power increase again (over the Tech EVO lever).

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    Well the Tech3 line is up on the Hope website . . . someone go order them and post up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the-one1 View Post
    How much more could they revise the M4 without making it into the V4? Can't wait for more detail
    Someone has already mentioned that they moved the hose connection inboard, they also made the pads deeper. Was talking to the Hope guys at the bike show in Birmingham UK.

    I liked the new levers, less bulky and had a similar feel to Shimano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A MAN CALLED HORSE View Post
    Someone has already mentioned that they moved the hose connection inboard, they also made the pads deeper. Was talking to the Hope guys at the bike show in Birmingham UK.

    I liked the new levers, less bulky and had a similar feel to Shimano.

    So new pads? No longer using the Shimano M755 type pads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A MAN CALLED HORSE View Post
    I liked the new levers, less bulky and had a similar feel to Shimano.
    This has me very worried . . . the Shimano levers feel like shit to me in both tactile feel and lever action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    This has me very worried . . . the Shimano levers feel like shit to me in both tactile feel and lever action.
    I meant a bit more like the shape of a Shimano lever, not exactly the same, but reminiscent - to me that is!

    As for the pads, as far as i understood, they haven't changed the caliper or piston size- but are just supplying them with deeper pads.
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    I can't wait until someone gets a ride report on these things . . . . as much as I love my Tech levers, the leaking MC caps (and 4 of them at that) is growing old. I feel like I have to bleed my brakes far more than most (at least its easy to do). This new design, which despite being much less visually appealing (based on the pics), reduces the potential for leaks by 50%. That coupled with more power (especially compared to the old Tech levers) should make these a winner. I will miss the aesthetics of the old design though. Maybe its not as bad in person?
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    I have received a pair of the new Hope tech 3 X2 brakes this morning and will get round to fitting asap. The MC is certainly slimmer in design than the previous version and as stated are no longer a flip flop design and are also directly compatible with my I-spec shifter which is good. I have been using Shimano M785 since they were released here in the UK, very good brake but I feel like they are a disposable item in comparison with the Hope which have every component available as spares. I hope these new brakes perform as good as my last set of previous generation non-evo X2 which never let me down. I will post a review when I've fitted and used a few times.

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    Dan, same pads or different than m4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB1978 View Post
    I have received a pair of the new Hope tech 3 X2 brakes this morning and will get round to fitting asap. The MC is certainly slimmer in design than the previous version and as stated are no longer a flip flop design and are also directly compatible with my I-spec shifter which is good. I have been using Shimano M785 since they were released here in the UK, very good brake but I feel like they are a disposable item in comparison with the Hope which have every component available as spares. I hope these new brakes perform as good as my last set of previous generation non-evo X2 which never let me down. I will post a review when I've fitted and used a few times.

    Sweet. post some pics of the levers . . . better/different angles than whats already out there. I'm really interested in a side profile shot (from the lever side and the hose side). I want to get an idea of just how big these things are.
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    My E4 Tech 3's are being delivered tomorrow - I'll post pics once they arrive.

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    As promised, Tech 3 E4 awesomeness!!
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    Can you take a pic of the pads?

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    man those xtr's are fugly, glad you got the hopes. looks like more throw by far than those shimanos

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    Well not as bad as I thought (appearance wise) but I prefer the look of the previous gen. It seems that the bulk of the metal has just been moved above the lever to accommodate shifter pods below.
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    VR46, where did you get yours? Were the anodized blue parts standard or did you get those extra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-one1 View Post
    Can you take a pic of the pads?
    Yes, I'll be out of town this week so when I get a chance I'll post pics of the pads

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    man those xtr's are fugly, glad you got the hopes. looks like more throw by far than those shimanos
    Don't knock the M960's till you try them - if there was still a single lever setup I'd rock it in a heartbeat!! They were flawless!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhmax View Post
    VR46, where did you get yours? Were the anodized blue parts standard or did you get those extra?
    Direct from Hope Tech in TX - they were great to work with. Blue anodized bits are extra. The bore caps are the same as the M4 caliper, and the adjusters are the same as the older Tech levers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Well not as bad as I thought (appearance wise) but I prefer the look of the previous gen. It seems that the bulk of the metal has just been moved above the lever to accommodate shifter pods below.
    They are not as bulky as they appear in photos - much cleaner setup. Everything is inline now. And less chance of leaking with the traditional M/C cap.

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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VR46 View Post
    As promised, Tech 3 E4 awesomeness!!
    Hi nice brakes, can you please tell me where is possible to buy them in that colors?

    Thank you,

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    Requesting more photos of installed brakes.

    Any weight measurements?

    Does the E4 caliper use the same old M4 pads?

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    Yeah, would like an update on performance too. Are they the same, good ole' reliable Hope's we've come to know and love?

    I just bled my (now classic) Tech levers . . . if it weren't so easy, I'd rarely do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Are they the same, good ole' reliable Hope's we've come to know and love?
    yeah, and hopefully without the leaky reservoir diaphragms

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    I'm curious whether there will be a silver version (tech m4-like).

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    Any new reviews? Weight?

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    About the pull the trigger on these (thanks to a conversation with 007). Any updates? I'm thinking E4 will be perfect for me..

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    Hi, I finally bought the Tech3 E4 model with normal hoses and the ventilated floating disc (200 f and 183 r). The feeling and adjustability is excellent, but Iīm still not so sure about the power with one finger on the front. I came from XT and even though they were ON/Off, I think they had more power when the grip allowed it.
    I have some XTR Trail which came with the bike and I am thinking on trying them as Iīve been told they are not as ON/OFF as the XT.
    Also about the weight, they are light! I think as light as XTR (My bike on a scale did not show any difference between XTR with Ice tech rotors and the TECH 3 E4, so if a difference, itīs less than 100 grams- 0,1 kg sensitivity on the scale)

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    Hope sure know how to laser etch stuff don't they? They get their money's worth out of that machine. ;0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    Hi, I finally bought the Tech3 E4 model with normal hoses and the ventilated floating disc (200 f and 183 r). The feeling and adjustability is excellent, but Iīm still not so sure about the power with one finger on the front. I came from XT and even though they were ON/Off, I think they had more power when the grip allowed it.
    I have some XTR Trail which came with the bike and I am thinking on trying them as Iīve been told they are not as ON/OFF as the XT.
    Also about the weight, they are light! I think as light as XTR (My bike on a scale did not show any difference between XTR with Ice tech rotors and the TECH 3 E4, so if a difference, itīs less than 100 grams- 0,1 kg sensitivity on the scale)
    Thanks! Ordered up. Should be here Thursday, on my bike for a Friday ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    Hi, I finally bought the Tech3 E4 model with normal hoses and the ventilated floating disc (200 f and 183 r). The feeling and adjustability is excellent, but Iīm still not so sure about the power with one finger on the front. I came from XT and even though they were ON/Off, I think they had more power when the grip allowed it.
    I have some XTR Trail which came with the bike and I am thinking on trying them as Iīve been told they are not as ON/OFF as the XT.
    Also about the weight, they are light! I think as light as XTR (My bike on a scale did not show any difference between XTR with Ice tech rotors and the TECH 3 E4, so if a difference, itīs less than 100 grams- 0,1 kg sensitivity on the scale)
    What is your weight and new experiences after longer use?

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    I weight 74 kgs and On long term experience there are no problems with the brake. Only complaint is that I would rather a little bit more power on the levers. On really long descents I end up with my hand tired (which can also be because I have been riding less due to work).
    I got a great deal on Maguraīs new Mt7, which Iīll be picking up today. They are supposed to be very powerful and have good modulation as well. Iīll be keeping hope rotors (I use 203 F and 183 R) and after some time Iīll decide which brakes I keep.
    Another option Iīve thought is to go with V4 up front and E4 on the rear, this way I get more power and donīt go too heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    I weight 74 kgs and On long term experience there are no problems with the brake. Only complaint is that I would rather a little bit more power on the levers. On really long descents I end up with my hand tired (which can also be because I have been riding less due to work).
    I got a great deal on Maguraīs new Mt7, which Iīll be picking up today. They are supposed to be very powerful and have good modulation as well. Iīll be keeping hope rotors (I use 203 F and 183 R) and after some time Iīll decide which brakes I keep.
    Another option Iīve thought is to go with V4 up front and E4 on the rear, this way I get more power and donīt go too heavy.
    thanks for answer. What pads do You use, organic or sintered? I am considering change the V2 Tech Evo to the E4, but if You told, that power is not enought... I don't know what I will do :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muszel View Post
    thanks for answer. What pads do You use, organic or sintered? I am considering change the V2 Tech Evo to the E4, but if You told, that power is not enought... I don't know what I will do :P
    I haven't found power to be an issue at all, coming from Avid X0 Trail and Shimano XT (full Ice-Tech). I'm 165lbs with gear, about the same as artishouk. Also running the 203/183 combo. I'd classify my riding as all-mountain, and if you're running a lot of extended DH runs, I'd maybe step up to the V4, just because they were designed for that application. If you're worried about weight, the E4 is marginally lighter. I think a balance of power and modulation is more important than weight, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    I haven't found power to be an issue at all, coming from Avid X0 Trail and Shimano XT (full Ice-Tech). I'm 165lbs with gear, about the same as artishouk. Also running the 203/183 combo. I'd classify my riding as all-mountain, and if you're running a lot of extended DH runs, I'd maybe step up to the V4, just because they were designed for that application. If you're worried about weight, the E4 is marginally lighter. I think a balance of power and modulation is more important than weight, though.
    I run an E4 front, and an X2 rear, both 203 rotors. I just like brakes!

    By the way -

    Hope Tech 3 E4 front brake - 250 grams

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    Hope Tech 3 X2 rear - 240 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    I haven't found power to be an issue at all, coming from Avid X0 Trail and Shimano XT (full Ice-Tech). I'm 165lbs with gear, about the same as artishouk. Also running the 203/183 combo. I'd classify my riding as all-mountain, and if you're running a lot of extended DH runs, I'd maybe step up to the V4, just because they were designed for that application. If you're worried about weight, the E4 is marginally lighter. I think a balance of power and modulation is more important than weight, though.
    YEs, donīt get me wrong, they are powerful! And they are light as well (just a tip more than xtr). Only on long descents I found I was making too much force, but as I said, it could be because of lack of training on my palms.
    I had XT before and I did not like the lack of modulation they have

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    Any comparison to Hope Tech V2, Saint, Code or something else (besides XT/XTR)?
    I have already Hope Tech V2 Evo and I want to lose some weight - so this is the reason why I am considering E4 Tech 3. But I wonder about their power becouse I don't want to lose to much compared to my V2. Unfortunately I don't know anyone with E4 to compare.

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    I recently got Tech3 M4... 183 F & R ... I had hard time to aling them... maybe because lack of experience... If someone can share his experience... is welcome!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    I had XT before and I did not like the lack of modulation they have


    My Remedy comes with XT's, and I figured I would give them a fair test. Riding the bike around in the shop parking lot, I just cannot believe how cheap the XT brakes feel compared to the Hopes.
    Plastic adjustment levers, a plastic feeling handle, and what feels like flex - or perhaps more accurately, imprecision in the lever action/throw.

    The XT's will be going for sale before the bike hits dirt. Another E4/X2 set will be on it's way!

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    I think Hope owners know there's really no comparison between XT and whatever Hope brakes you choose to run. People love their XTs, and I did too before I ran the Hopes. To be fair, the XTs can usually be had for a little more than half the price of a full Hope setup, which I think adequately embodies the "you get what you pay for" mantra. I think for the money, XTs are the best value, but are nowhere near being the best brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    I think Hope owners know there's really no comparison between XT and whatever Hope brakes you choose to run. People love their XTs, and I did too before I ran the Hopes. To be fair, the XTs can usually be had for a little more than half the price of a full Hope setup, which I think adequately embodies the "you get what you pay for" mantra. I think for the money, XTs are the best value, but are nowhere near being the best brake.
    I know. The Hopes are pricey, but whew - such an incredible set of brakes. Love mine. I would LOVE a set of reds though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DethWshBkr View Post
    I know. The Hopes are pricey, but whew - such an incredible set of brakes. Love mine. I would LOVE a set of reds though!
    The Only thing I miss about XT's is that they are very, very easy in caliper alignment ... really easy and precise... hopes, in this particular aspect are very complicated... by know, im still dialing them... for that price they where suposed to be better in every single aspect... not caliper alignment is their strength for sure

    another issue I can find is that they are noisy... never had this issue with xt's...

    by know... not in love... still getting in love... hope i will... hope very soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fparra View Post
    The Only thing I miss about XT's is that they are very, very easy in caliper alignment ... really easy and precise... hopes, in this particular aspect are very complicated... by know, im still dialing them... for that price they where suposed to be better in every single aspect... not caliper alignment is their strength for sure

    another issue I can find is that they are noisy... never had this issue with xt's...

    by know... not in love... still getting in love... hope i will... hope very soon...

    Interesting - No noise here. Caliper setup shouldn't be any different. Barely touch down the two bolts, line up, and snug. Then tighten.

    I honestly think noise is more a rotor issue than a brake issue. I had a set of squealing Maguras and Avids - and flipping the rotor stopped all noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DethWshBkr View Post
    Interesting - No noise here. Caliper setup shouldn't be any different. Barely touch down the two bolts, line up, and snug. Then tighten.

    I honestly think noise is more a rotor issue than a brake issue. I had a set of squealing Maguras and Avids - and flipping the rotor stopped all noise.
    Yep, on both counts. SRAM Guides are super quiet, and the only difference between them and the Avid Trails at the caliper end are the rotors. My Hopes are a bit squeaky after a bike wash or after I contaminate them, but a bit of alcohol does the trick.

    I will say that it's really important to get them lined up right. A small adjustment makes a big diff.

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    I've been on my T3/E4's now for about 8 months. Now that's my mind/finger muscle connection is fully dialed I find them to be simply superb.

    What I really like is the low speed modulation. You know, when you come up to a 150 deg switchback (that was built by hikers) a little hot? With the Shimano's I would often seem to lock/un-lock, lock/unlock my away around the apex. With the Hopes I can REALLY feather the brakes and bike around. And when terrain goes from somewhat steep, to root infested 'OMG!', again, the linear feathering modulation is really nice. When the going gets sketch, 'confidence inspiring' is how I would categorize them .

    Another poster mentioned about alignment. I will say that Hopes aren't the most user friendly in this department. But remember compared to XT's you have twice the number of pistons. Check the Tech section on the Hope website (or YouTube) where they go through the alignment process. Start with the pads out of the calipers, align by eye (use your glasses if you need too!), install pads, and press on the pad backing plate fore and aft/in and out to fine tune. If you own E4/M4's, the days of simple 'grab lever', snug-up, check, torque to spec are over. However with a little patience and practice, the process really is quick and easy...It's just different. Also, when it's done it's done. I've rarely had to readjust once set.
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    thanks for the review

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    On the other side, Iīve just sold my Tech 3 E4 and replaced them with Maguraīs MT7. I feel almost the same modulation, but way more power. Or at least I need less for to apply the power, which translate on less tired hands on long descents.
    Iīve had last XT, XTR, E4 and Maguraīs, and I find the Maguras to be really really good: one of the lightest on itīs class, great modulation, lots of power. I bought them cheap from a Cannondale take off (from a new bike), so the high MSRP could be an issue.
    Only downside is that I cannot get the lever as close to the bars as I would like, but that may only apply to small hands and liking them really close to the bars.

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    It seems like the Zee/Saint brakes are forgotten. It's only fair to compare brakes in the same price point ballpark. If you want a Shimano with excellent modulation and more power than just about any other brake on the market, the Zees will work and they cost less than other 4 piston brakes with similar performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuickGN View Post
    It seems like the Zee/Saint brakes are forgotten. It's only fair to compare brakes in the same price point ballpark. If you want a Shimano with excellent modulation and more power than just about any other brake on the market, the Zees will work and they cost less than other 4 piston brakes with similar performance.
    Never tried their DH offerings. Do they have the same initial bite as the XT/XTR? One reason I like the Hopes is because they have about 20% less bite at the beginning of the stroke (a great attribute in slow speed situations, as a previous poster mentioned) but more than Avid's Elixir's, and tons of power when properly aligned and maintained. I will say that if installation is bad or a bleed is needed, performance suffers big time.

    It's taken a while, but as with bikes nowadays, there are great options everywhere. Hope, Magura, Shimano, and now SRAM with the Guides, are all making really good brakes. I think it comes down to preference in lever feel, initial bite, and intended use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    Never tried their DH offerings. Do they have the same initial bite as the XT/XTR? One reason I like the Hopes is because they have about 20% less bite at the beginning of the stroke (a great attribute in slow speed situations, as a previous poster mentioned) but more than Avid's Elixir's, and tons of power when properly aligned and maintained. I will say that if installation is bad or a bleed is needed, performance suffers big time.

    It's taken a while, but as with bikes nowadays, there are great options everywhere. Hope, Magura, Shimano, and now SRAM with the Guides, are all making really good brakes. I think it comes down to preference in lever feel, initial bite, and intended use.
    They're more like your description of the Hopes. They actually feel like they're going to be weak when you first press the lever because there's none of that aggressive initial bite. They have a very linear ramp up. Even though they have considerably more power than XTs, I'm much more likely to accidentally put myself over the bars with the XTs.

    I wish the Zees weren't branded as a downhill brake because as a trail brake they're much better than the XTs. The labeling makes people afraid to try them because you expect something with brute power and little modulation and these have some of the best modulation I've ever experienced. I hate to make controversial statements that might rub people the wrong way but I believe the Zee/Saint brakes are better than all of Shimano's 2 piston offerings in every possible way except for cost and weight. I would have no problem recommending them for the cross country crowd over the XTs if the weight wasn't a problem.
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    I noticed too that the Saints have lot more modulation than Xt's or SLX's.

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    And the cool thing is the Zees are a lower priced Saint. You don't get the contact point adjustment but the hole is drilled and tapped, all you have to do is find a screw that works. You don't get the tool free reach adjust but I never need to adjust mine on the trail anyway. You get the exact same performance of the Saints for about half the cost and a little more weight.

    In fact, if you look hard enough, you can find Zees cheaper than retail on XTs.
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    Here are the pads for E4 compared to the Mono M4. The big on is for E4 (OEM) and small red one is for Mono M4 from Discobrakes. Same length but different width.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    On the other side, Iīve just sold my Tech 3 E4 and replaced them with Maguraīs MT7. I feel almost the same modulation, but way more power. Or at least I need less for to apply the power, which translate on less tired hands on long descents.
    Iīve had last XT, XTR, E4 and Maguraīs, and I find the Maguras to be really really good: one of the lightest on itīs class, great modulation, lots of power. I bought them cheap from a Cannondale take off (from a new bike), so the high MSRP could be an issue.
    Only downside is that I cannot get the lever as close to the bars as I would like, but that may only apply to small hands and liking them really close to the bars.
    How do you feel about the Maguras now? Have you bled them yet? I am actually on Maguras going to Hope. I know the lever reach on the mt7 is far, and I could see that getting tiring after a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbelleville View Post
    How do you feel about the Maguras now? Have you bled them yet? I am actually on Maguras going to Hope. I know the lever reach on the mt7 is far, and I could see that getting tiring after a while.
    I bled the rear, with no issues. The brakes still very strong. COuldnīt be happier with the change from the Hope E4. Iīve still never gotten any fade on them. Regarding the levers, I ended up cutting the contact point of the lever with the piston to get them closer to the bars. Not ideal, but it worked really good and have had no issues. It seems that magura will be releasing some new levers that are closer to the bars.
    Only issue is that the lighter rotors are not that good, better go with the normal ones or change them.

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    T3 E4's needed a bit too much finger pressure for my taste to get the power out, mainly on front. I could lock the rear without too much effort.

    Switched to V4's on both ends. Same modulation, way more power. And that power comes with less effort. V4 is overkill on rear for my needs. V4 front E4 rear would be the optimal setup for me with my current 183 discs.

    i'd say E4 compares with XT, SLX, XTR etc. V4 compares with Mt5/7, Zee and Saints.

    Aligning was easy for me as long as I kept sure that all the pistons were equally out / centered. They need manual adjusting out of the box and after bleeding. It's easy to align them by pressing them against the disc or other similar block between the pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artishouk View Post
    I bled the rear, with no issues. The brakes still very strong. COuldnīt be happier with the change from the Hope E4. Iīve still never gotten any fade on them. Regarding the levers, I ended up cutting the contact point of the lever with the piston to get them closer to the bars. Not ideal, but it worked really good and have had no issues. It seems that magura will be releasing some new levers that are closer to the bars.
    Only issue is that the lighter rotors are not that good, better go with the normal ones or change them.
    What bike do you have these on? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbelleville View Post
    What bike do you have these on? Thanks.
    Santa cruz nomad Mk3. I ride it in Santiago Chile, just where the launching video for that bike was made. So lots of long, steep descents.

    I agree that a V4 front - E4 back is also a very solid combination. What Mauri said about the effort needed in order to get full power for the front, is exactly why I changed them.

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