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    Formula Oro BIANCOS...this time for real

    Just received my Formula Oro Biancos from Larry at Mtn High Cyclery. The finish is beautiful and I'm super stoked to mount these up.

    Pics include brake, rotor, adaptor & hardware.

    Front 200 mm rotor:



    Rear 180 mm rotor:

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    Give me the 2-finger levers and the pads,you can keep the rest...
    I wonder where the 220mm rotor is????
    Good looking set of brakes,have fun with it!

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    Sweet, Squeaky!!!

    Too much snow to try them out???

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    Sweet, Squeaky!!!

    Too much snow to try them out???

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    Too much snow to try them out???
    No. Too much slush & muck right now. From a trail perspective things were better when it was colder. The warm temps have turned the trails to crap. Even the Pugsleys are struggling and they're creating too much trail erosion so I'll take a seat on the sofa until things shape up.
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    Do those Biancos have carbon levers?

    I have found Formulas website to be quite annoying and lacking any in depth information and comparisons of their different models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A MAN CALLED HORSE
    Do those Biancos have carbon levers?

    I have found Formulas website to be quite annoying and lacking any in depth information and comparisons of their different models.
    I agree that their website leaves something to be desired.

    In reality there are far more similarities amongst the different Oro models than differences. All share the same master & caliper castings. The differences are found in the lever material, lever length, hardware (Ti v. alu) and pads (sintered v. organic) and the finish (gold, silver, polished).

    Biancos use an aluminum 1-finger lever & sintered pads for more aggressive trailride/DH application. I would have been happy with the Oro K24 but wanted the one-finger lever in particular. And, most importantly, the polished finish of the Bianco looks badazz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    I agree that their website leaves something to be desired.

    In reality there are far more similarities amongst the different Oro models than differences. All share the same master & caliper castings. The differences are found in the lever material, lever length, hardware (Ti v. alu) and pads (sintered v. organic) and the finish (gold, silver, polished).

    Biancos use an aluminum 1-finger lever & sintered pads for more aggressive trailride/DH application. I would have been happy with the Oro K24 but wanted the one-finger lever in particular. And, most importantly, the polished finish of the Bianco looks badazz.
    Thanks for your answers Squeaky. Could you also tell me if the Biancos have a wide brake lever (where fingers contact) like the others or is it narrower. I like to one finger brake but love the feel of a wide ,flat lever like Hopes. Also, do you think Hopes floaters could be used with these, with or without any filing of the caliper?
    Be great if you could post a pic of them fitted on your bike
    Last edited by A MAN CALLED HORSE; 02-13-2007 at 04:15 PM.
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    So did the terramoto show up, or what are those going on?

    We rode a bunch of bikes with the new Formulas on them at Interbike and they all performed quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    So did the terramoto show up, or what are those going on?

    We rode a bunch of bikes with the new Formulas on them at Interbike and they all performed quite well.

    Sigh....still waiting on the T-Moto.
    Right now those Biancos are just shop jewelery.
    In any event, it remains Pugsley season around here.

    The snow is melting fast & hopefully the Ventana will arrive soon.
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    those are BY FAR the gheyest brakes i have ever seen; they should be perfect for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    those are BY FAR the gheyest brakes i have ever seen; they should be perfect for you
    Are you just trying to run up your thread count?

    Fo, it's time for some new material. "Ghey" is so Jan 07.
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    Those Formulas are beutiful! I love the look of that one finger lever, I diddn't realize they had that? That lever blade looks like it would suit my style perfectly.

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    Do they come in black?


    Now, serioulsy Squeak... Dang, those are pure porn. They look like the Shizzle! (No, not that Shizzle... )

    Nice weight figure for such stopper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Are you just trying to run up your thread count?

    Fo, it's time for some new material. "Ghey" is so Jan 07.
    you are just jealous cuz you didnt coin the new spelling

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    Ok, I'll bite.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    That lever blade looks like it would suit my style perfectly.
    What exactly is your "style," pray tell?
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    Formula Bianco GM edition

    Has any one seen or have a Formula Bianco GM edition? That's what a want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    What exactly is your "style," pray tell?

    I like to use one finger, by hooking it around the "curved" end of the lever. I developed this "style" while running gripshifters where as the lever would be positioned further away from my hand than my current triggers. I can never seem to get standard levers far enough away from my hands while still being able to comfortably reach the shifter.

    Also my new Magura Louis's don't seem to allow for me to mount them inside the shifters which is fine except I would prefer being able to grab that hook at the end of the lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Also my new Magura Louis's don't seem to allow for me to mount them inside the shifters which is fine except I would prefer being able to grab that hook at the end of the lever.
    Not if you run them very close to the shifter... it could work if they're rather far from them.

    If it's any consolation, the '07 still can't be run comfortably inside the shifters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Not if you run them very close to the shifter... it could work if they're rather far from them.

    If it's any consolation, the '07 still can't be run comfortably inside the shifters.

    Yeah I've tried it all. Between the length of my hands, the bar I run, and the shifters, and brakes I can't make it work. It's cool though... I adapt as well as anybody, and the brakes ROCK I just wish I would recieve the 203mm rotor to mount on front. I guess there is no adapter for the 180?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Yeah I've tried it all. Between the length of my hands, the bar I run, and the shifters, and brakes I can't make it work. It's cool though... I adapt as well as anybody, and the brakes ROCK I just wish I would recieve the 203mm rotor to mount on front. I guess there is no adapter for the 180?

    Do you mean that the adapter is not in stock? Because magura does make the PM-to-PM 180mm adapter (number 6 if I am not mistaken)

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    Not sure what shifters everyone has mounted, but I put my 07 X.9 triggers on the grip-side of my Louise brakes and I'm all about the 1-finger "style".
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Not sure what shifters everyone has mounted, but I put my 07 X.9 triggers on the grip-side of my Louise brakes and I'm all about the 1-finger "style".
    2006 X.7's and yeah, they mount just fine but the shifter gets at a weird angle that in my case is far from ideal on the trigger.

    Wait a second, 'cheesy! Do the y X.9's are more like the X.0's right? So the clamping is a bit different...

    If so now I have a SRAM RD, so I may have the X.9's on my UGI list.

    Cris... I guess BA has the "old" louise with IS mounts. Not sure if the long arm or the short arm version, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Not sure what shifters everyone has mounted, but I put my 07 X.9 triggers on the grip-side of my Louise brakes and I'm all about the 1-finger "style".

    That's nice.... and let me just say I apologize for using the term "style" to discribe the way in which I prefer to hook the end of the brake lever with one finger.


    And again, those Formula's are some of the pirdy-est brakes I've seen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Cris... I guess BA has the "old" louise with IS mounts. Not sure if the long arm or the short arm version, though.

    Right... I forgot BA had the IS ones...... but anyhow I am almost positive he could use another maker's IS-to-PM adapter to use a 180mm rotor ... for example the Hope IS-to-PM 20mm+


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    Well I've been going through my LBS on this being it's hard for me to keep track of which one I've needed. I "thought" I needed an IS to post mount adapter. So far my LBS has ordered three wich were all the wrong ones.

    For me it's almost been like getting this "Italian" fork, together with these "German" brakes has just been asking for TROUBLE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Well I've been going through my LBS on this being it's hard for me to keep track of which one I've needed. I "thought" I needed an IS to post mount adapter. So far my LBS has ordered three wich were all the wrong ones.

    For me it's almost been like getting this "Italian" fork, together with these "German" brakes has just been asking for TROUBLE?

    Totally understand the frustration... and if parts are easier to source to go up to 203mm than 180mm ... go for it!!! I now run 203mm in the front of my 2 bikes

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    ah... one more thing, BA.. if you are running a 160mm rear, you could just switch the caliper to the front and get an IS-to-IS +20mm adapter in the rear (those are usually easier to find)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    ah... one more thing, BA.. if you are running a 160mm rear, you could just switch the caliper to the front and get an IS-to-IS +20mm adapter in the rear (those are usually easier to find)

    Yeah I've got 180 in the rear, but thanks a lot for all your help bro! I didn't know about the hope adapter as a "possible" possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackagness
    Yeah I've got 180 in the rear, but thanks a lot for all your help bro! I didn't know about the hope adapter as a "possible" possibility.

    yeah.. check it out .. you know..just trying to help a brotha out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Wait a second, 'cheesy! Do the y X.9's are more like the X.0's right? So the clamping is a bit different...
    Yep, the 07 X.9s have a different mount system and nest under the Louise levers better, but not flush by any means. The clamp bolt on the Louise levers still do interfere somewhat, but the two-position sideways movement offered by the new X.9 (like X.0) helps aleviate this to a degree. It still ends up angled down more than if you ran it inboard of the brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Yep, the 07 X.9s have a different mount system and nest under the Louise levers better, but not flush by any means. The clamp bolt on the Louise levers still do interfere somewhat, but the two-position sideways movement offered by the new X.9 (like X.0) helps aleviate this to a degree. It still ends up angled down more than if you ran it inboard of the brake.
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    Btw...

    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Yep, the 07 X.9s have a different mount system and nest under the Louise levers better, but not flush by any means. The clamp bolt on the Louise levers still do interfere somewhat, but the two-position sideways movement offered by the new X.9 (like X.0) helps aleviate this to a degree. It still ends up angled down more than if you ran it inboard of the brake.

    I run 06 X9's and I was well aware of the ability of the 07's to better run "inboard" of the shifters. As I never had any doubt you were well aware of the 06's inability to do so as "well" as the 07's... Punk!

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    Squeak, hows 'bout an update now that you've run these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Squeak, hows 'bout an update now that you've run these.
    Very pleased thus far.

    Gobs of power. They feel significantly stronger than my Juicy 7's with same size 8" front/ 7" rear rotors. I'd liken Bianco's power closer to Codes. If anything, I might switch to a less aggressive organic pad when the stock sintered pads wear out for a bit less bite. Lever feel is excellent and very similar to Juicys and the one-finger lever is ergonomically pleasing. I really dig the reach and pad contact adjustment as well as the low profile polished look.

    Setup is a breeze. The rotors were true right out of the box which I've never encountered before. There is minimal squeal when the rotors are cool and a bit dirty but silent after the first hard stop.

    I think Bianco is a great brake for someone looking for powerful high performance but doesn't need or want the extra power & weight that a true FR/DH brake like Code provides.





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    Squeak, thanks for the reply. Couple of quick questions... how quiet are they, particularly when wet? Any of the studdering issues similar to the Juicys? It looks like you're mounting your SRAM shifters onto the brake via Formula's do-hicky-thing-a-ma-bobber. Do you like how it positions the shifting paddles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Squeak, thanks for the reply. Couple of quick questions... how quiet are they, particularly when wet? Any of the studdering issues similar to the Juicys? It looks like you're mounting your SRAM shifters onto the brake via Formula's do-hicky-thing-a-ma-bobber. Do you like how it positions the shifting paddles?
    Haven't really had them in the wet yet. Just a little bit of mud and they were quiet.

    Doood....you live in SW Utah. What are you doing worrying about wet?

    No studdering. Then again, I never had that problem with my Juicys using Galfer pads.

    I dig the do-hicky-thing-a-ma-bobber. Positioning is perfect for one finger braking and the X.0 triggers allow for fore/aft paddle placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashTheDOG
    Squeak, thanks for the reply. Couple of quick questions... how quiet are they, particularly when wet? Any of the studdering issues similar to the Juicys? It looks like you're mounting your SRAM shifters onto the brake via Formula's do-hicky-thing-a-ma-bobber. Do you like how it positions the shifting paddles?
    On my 29er, the 180 Bianco feels about the same as the 180 Juicy 7 on my 26er. I can easily 1 finger brake down the steepest slopes at slickrock trail with my Bianco's. They are awesome brakes.

    Very little noise, but they do tend to shudder and have minor howling when wet (sintered pads)... they dry quickly and are never grabby. Took about 30 miles of singletrack to fully bed-in.

    The only downside compared to Juicys is that the pads apparently run a bit closer to the disk so sand grains and such occasionally cause some scratching/scraping sounds but usually a slight grab/release will knock whatever out of the track and they go silent again.
    It's a 6" 29er, 69 HTA, 29" standover, setup for 31.6 Joplin, 83mm BB, blah blah blah. A bike for being stupid. --Walt Wehner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony
    The only downside compared to Juicys is that the pads apparently run a bit closer to the disk so sand grains and such occasionally cause some scratching/scraping sounds but usually a slight grab/release will knock whatever out of the track and they go silent again.
    I don't think the Formula pads run any closer to the disc than do Avids. I suspect it's the sintered pad compound that's causing the noise you describe.

    I've had more time on my 8"/7" Biancos and have to admit that they have too much power and not enough modulation for me - I'm breaking into skids more easily than I should despite laying off the pressure. I again suspect this is due to the aggressive sintered pads. I'm going to drop my front rotor to 7" and if modulation doesn't improve then I'm going to a less aggressive organic pad compound.
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    Yeah, that could be, but I also notice mine being slightly more inclined to rub than my Juicy's.

    However, it is only on the front and I have a 20mm with the Juicy's and a QR on the Biancos, so maybe there is enough twist to encourage occasional rubbing and it isn't the pad separation after all.
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