2009 Magura Marta SL vs. Avid Elixir CR

[iClique]

I'm building up a custom bike and still deciding on whether to go with the 2009 Magura Marta SL in red or the 2009 Avid Elixir CR.

I've heard great things about the new Marta SL brakes but have not heard much on the Avid Elixir CR's.

Here's my build:

Frame: Ibis Mojo Nude Carbon w/DT Swiss Carbon Rear Shock
Fork: DT Swiss EXC 150 15mm Black/Red 15mm 150-150mm 1590.00g
Shifter: Shimano XTR Pods SL-M970 252.00g
Crank: Shimano XTR Aluminum 175.00 22-32-44 786.00g
Bottom Bracket: Shimano Hollowtech II | CrMo
Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR M971 Bottom Swing 132.00g
Cassette Shimano: XT M770 | Steel | 11-34 297.00g
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR M972 Shadow | L 185.00g
Chain Shimano: XTR 7701 304.00g
Wheelset: Industry 9 w/DT Swiss XRC 330 Disc Carbon Rim Red Hubs & Spokes |1250.00g
Front Tire: Kenda Nevagal DTC | Black | Kevlar | STD | 2.10 610.00g
Rear Tire: Kenda Nevagal DTC | Black | Kevlar | STD | 2.10 610.00g
Front Tube: Butyl Presta 1.90-2.70 | 36.00mm 150.00g
Rear Tube: Butyl Presta 1.90-2.70 | 36.00mm 150.00g
Front Rim:Tape Velox Cloth Rim Tape 7.50g
Rear Rim:Tape Velox Cloth Rim Tape 7.50g
Headset: Cane Creek IS-2 Tall | Black 88.00g
Stem: Ritchey WCS Carbon Matrix Stem | Carbon | 100.00 | 6.00 124.00g
Handlebar: Ritchey WCS Carbon Rizer Low Carbon Carbon Low Rise 165.00g
Grip Oury: Soft Grip | Black 140.00g
Seatpost: Ritchey WCS Carbon Carbon 350mm Setback 160.00g
Saddle: Selle San Marco Carbon | Black 85.00g

[GiantMartin]

Between those two I would go with the Marta SL's. I have the 08's and they are the best brake I've used. Lotsa power and they look the shizznit. Ever conside the Avid Juicy Ultimates?

[iClique]

Isn't the Elixir CR their new top of the line?

[Diamondhead]

Go with the Avids, they "match" your frame better.

[theextremist04]

actually, i think the red martas match better. and i don't think you could go wrong either way.

[Diamondhead]

actually, i think the red martas match better. and i don't think you could go wrong either way.

At this level, performance is a wash, they both are top of the line, I think the decision comes down to cosmetics, and the Avids win.

[theextremist04]

even with all the red ano on his bike already?

[iClique]

Should I get the Ventidisc? I hear a lot about brakes getting too hot and the Ventidisc is a self cooling rotor...

[theextremist04]

all rotors are pretty much self-cooling. it's not really that big of a problem unless you're doing DH runs; if you get the bike and you overheat your rotors a ton, get bigger rotors. but i don't think you'll need them.

[iaintdumb2]

besides performance and whatever else, don't the elixir's beat the marta's for adjustability? but i'm biased, i have the elixir's, and my bf has the marta SL's which i refuse to try

edit: guess i should give my opinion on the elixir's. they have a ton of power, great modulation. i am running 160 rotors front and rear, which stop so much better than a juicy and hayes setup with 185 mm rotor up front i tried before . never could do 1 finger braking with any other brakes.

double edit: i must admit that i've been having noise issues with the elixir's, although performance has not been affected in any way

[mtb441]

i have the 08 SL's on a trance X and they always give me the bling and brakeing power i need,i went 8in front and 7in rear.

[mtb4life45]

why do you post the weight in grams of everything on your bike? Get a life dude. Both brakes are pimp. Avids are stiffer, maguras are way easier to set up.

[iClique]

why do you post the weight in grams of everything on your bike? Get a life dude. Both brakes are pimp. Avids are stiffer, maguras are way easier to set up.

What are you talking about fool?!?!?!? I just copied it over from program the bike shop uses... sounds more like you need to get a life and worry about yourself.

[mtb4life45]

What are you talking about fool?!?!?!? I just copied it over from program the bike shop uses... sounds more like you need to get a life and worry about yourself.

did i hurt your feelings? How many grams do your tears weigh?

[iClique]

did i hurt your feelings? How many grams do your tears weigh?

You must have a very boring life, that you have to look for excitement here!

[29ERCAT]

did i hurt your feelings? How many grams do your tears weigh?

whatever........

[mtb4life45]

You must have a very boring life, that you have to look for excitement here!

You must have a job

*fixed

[ianaprilia]

Can anyone give me an idea of the weight of the wheelset iclique uses or is going to use in his project?

Wheelset: Industry 9 w/DT Swiss XRC 330 Disc Carbon Rim Red Hubs & Spokes |1250.00g

is that weight theoretical or is it actual weight on scale?

[One_Speed]

Can anyone give me an idea of the weight of the wheelset iclique uses or is going to use in his project?

is that weight theoretical or is it actual weight on scale?

Weight is posted.

Reason is those are 330Gram rims that are $700 each. SO subtract 400grams+ from standard i9 wheelset.

[IAmtnbikr]

Reason is those are 330 Gram rims that are $700 each.

Actually they can be had for far less than that if you hunt around. I got mine through the LBS for way less than $700/ea.

[One_Speed]

Actually they can be had for far less than that if you hunt around. I got mine through the LBS for way less than $700/ea.

No ****!

For quoting reasons, I quoted retail price.

[toph17]

+1 for the red Marta SL's