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    Here she is: BMC Trailfox 2

    Is she front-range worthy!?

    Intended Use: XC/AM (Earn it's downhills!)

    Frame Size & Color: 2007 BMC Trailfox 2 19" (120mm)
    Shock: RS Ario 2.0
    Fork: Pike 454 Air U-Turn
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 (7"x7")
    Cranks: FSA V Drive MegaExo
    Front Derailleur: X9
    Rear Derailleur: X9
    Shifters: X9
    Cables: Nokon
    Cable Guides: Orange Twist Ties (Nice touch!)
    Pedals: Candy
    Stem: Somethin' cheap
    Handlebar: Alpha Q Carbon
    Seatpost: Thomspon Elite Set Back
    Grips: Oury
    Wheels: Heavy Ass Atomlabs w/ Heavy Ass Tires(Temporary - Awaiting Crossmax ST Thru-Axle Wheels!)
    Weight: 32lb 3 oz. (Hoping for 30lbs even with new wheels/UST tires)


    Built by: Cycle To Fitness, Livonia, MI (www.cycletofitness.com) - Thanks Dan!

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    Wow, I like the look of all these BMCs getting built up! My true AM dream machine is coming in to focus...

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    great looking bike

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    Looking titZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Another sweet BMC.
    I'm glad i built mine up, its been a dream everytime I ride.
    Look, whatever happens, don't fight the mountain.

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    VERY nice build

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    Nice Build VooDoo!!

    Here is my version with the new '08 paint....

    * Frame Size & Color: BMC Trailfox 02 21"- Goldorange/Jet Black
    * Fork: Pike 454 20mmTA (extra firm coil, i'm 225#)
    * Brakes: Avid BB-7 8" rotors
    * Cranks: FSA Carbon
    * Front Derailleur: X-9
    * Rear Derailleur: X-9
    * Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy SL
    * Stem: Thomson elite
    * Handlebar: Easton Monkey Lite Carbon
    * Seatpost: Crank Bros. Joplin
    * Saddle: WTB Speedster V
    * Bottom Bracket: FSA Carbon
    * Cassette: X-9
    * Headset: Integrated
    * Grips: ODI
    * Front Tire: Kenda Blue Groove DTC
    * Front Rim: DT Swiss EX 5.1D
    * Front Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 340 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Blue Groove DTC
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX 5.1D
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 340
    * Weight: 30 lbs.
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    Thats sick!!!!
    Those easton bars couldn't possibly match the color sceme any better!!!!!!
    Sweet.
    Look, whatever happens, don't fight the mountain.

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    Hey mate, nice build.
    I have the same model and it is a great bike, have had to spend more time and money on getting it right from out of the box but its worth it.
    My biggest recommendation? Fox rear shock, the Ario is below par and you'll struggle to get full travel out of it.
    Im running a Shimano front derailleur on mine and to anyone building up a fourstroke or trailfox, be wary, the clearance on the cage is tight with the chainstay- mine ended up contacting at full travel, so now im on the hunt for a sram front derailleur that has a shorter cage.
    Otherwise, enjoy!
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    I can't comment on the Ario, but I have a 'pushed' Fox shock on another BMC that I bent the frame in a crash, so I ordered the new bike with the DT swiss, and now the Fox is on ebay. The DT is super plush and smooth and has a full lock-out.... i'm loving the thing.

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    Very nice build, loving the orange.

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    What do you think of the Rock Shock Pike 454 Air U-Turn? Any Good?

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    I don't know... I have the coil spring version of the Pike with the extra-firm spring installed, and it is very plush, it uses its travel well but doesn't bottom out. The Air version is probably more adjustable, but i'm happy with the coil and I don't really want to deal with air adjustments. The pike is a great all around all-mountain fork for a 5" bike IMO.

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    Yo, I'm torn between building a trailfox and a fourstroke. I'd use if for XC, with a few small jumps/drops (>4 feet). Mostly where I ride it's logs and rock gardens on tight trails. Which should I go for?

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    If you can afford the Fourstroke 02 which uses the same beefed-up frame as the Supertrail, I would buy that for a nice XC/Trail bike. I was going to, but the frames aren't available until mid-June. I ride very similar to the same terrain as you, and I am really liking this Trailfox, and it is good for minor drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lou_b_83
    What do you think of the Rock Shock Pike 454 Air U-Turn? Any Good?
    You kidding??

    Heck it is good!!

    Actually, I think it's a reference in its class.
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    What do you guys think are good options for a fork on this bike?
    I'm looking at the Rock Shox Revelation 426 Air U-Turn (100-130) w/ Pushlock

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    Quote Originally Posted by v22osprey
    What do you guys think are good options for a fork on this bike?
    I'm looking at the Rock Shox Revelation 426 Air U-Turn (100-130) w/ Pushlock
    Very good fork for the BMC Trailfox!

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    is it just me or do these BMC's have really steep head angles? Every picture I see they look like 70+degrees at least. Otherwise it looks fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moshelove
    is it just me or do these BMC's have really steep head angles? Every picture I see they look like 70+degrees at least. Otherwise it looks fantastic.
    The head angle is 71 degrees. I didn't really notice the change in geometry when I switched from my Stumpjumper, only that the BMC climbs better. I don't really know the reason for the steep head angle....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overthebars
    The head angle is 71 degrees. I didn't really notice the change in geometry when I switched from my Stumpjumper, only that the BMC climbs better. I don't really know the reason for the steep head angle....
    You must live where its flat. 71 degrees wouldn't cut it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetta_mike
    You must live where its flat. 71 degrees wouldn't cut it here.
    LOL.... yeah its pretty flat in Idaho And the BMC's are designed in Switzerland, i'm sure its flat there too....

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    This is a stupid question I know but...

    What effect on the climbing/handling does the head tube angle and seat tube angle have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v22osprey
    This is a stupid question I know but...

    What effect on the climbing/handling does the head tube angle and seat tube angle have?
    For climbing, the seat angle determines our position relative to the crank and hence proper power transfer to the pedals. 72-73 is the "norm".

    When climbing, I'm not sure how head angle works... I think chainstay length and seat angle have more importance when climbing. Not that head angle doesn't matter, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v22osprey
    This is a stupid question I know but...

    What effect on the climbing/handling does the head tube angle and seat tube angle have?
    One additional thing about slacker seat tube angles is that dropping your saddle for descents becomes more effective, because it moves further forward and out of the way.

    Steeper head tube angles (XC racing bikes are usually around 71 to 73 deg) make steering quicker. Slacker head tube angles provide for more confident descending because steering is slowed and more stable.

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    With all the questions I'm asking, It's a miracle I even know how to ride...

    How do you figure out what stem length and how much setback for the seatpost to use when you're starting from scratch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v22osprey
    With all the questions I'm asking, It's a miracle I even know how to ride...

    How do you figure out what stem length and how much setback for the seatpost to use when you're starting from scratch?

    Two methods...

    1) An external bike fitter (your shop or some dedicated bike fitters). BY making body measurements and such.

    2) By comparison... Say, you have your older bike and you want something in particular. Like wanting a longer cockpit or a more upright position. Then you compare how much your bike measures against a potential or new bike. Then make the adjustments.

    I'm a bit against setback posts as they effectively slacken your seat angle (the point where your saddle is relative to the bottom bracket)... But for some, that's the only way to get the proper pedaling position over the cranks.
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    So if I want to build up a bike to feel very XC bike stretched and turn tighter, do I go with a setback seatpost or straight?

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    Nice build to you too Over the bars! I freaking love orange bikes, Im thankful for the bit of orange on mine
    : )

    Lets trade cranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann
    Thats sick!!!!
    Those easton bars couldn't possibly match the color sceme any better!!!!!!
    Sweet.
    yes they could... XD


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    I'm getting a trailfox 2.0. Being 5' 11'' would a 19'' fit well?? - (I have a good deal on a 19'')

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZIPPYZOOM
    I'm getting a trailfox 2.0. Being 5' 11'' would a 19'' fit well?? - (I have a good deal on a 19'')
    The stand over height is fairly tall, so why not...

    My buddy is 6'-0" and he rides a 19". I'm 6'-4" and ride the 21"

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    Bumped this thread just because that's a gorgeous bike.
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    Headtube angle

    Quote Originally Posted by moshelove
    is it just me or do these BMC's have really steep head angles? Every picture I see they look like 70+degrees at least. Otherwise it looks fantastic.
    I was gonna say the same thing. That looks like an XC bike to me. I want a minimum 68-degree headtube angle so I can pin it on the downhill. Of course, with the Bionicon, I've got a 68-degree headtube for the down hill and 73 for the climbs.

    That is a sweet-looking bike though. Just looks kinda twitchy for my taste.
    Back of the camera, back of the pack.

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    Thanks for the bump!

    Here is my quick review.

    I've ridden it on some flat **** back in Michigan, it was obviously overkill but VERY fun!

    Out here in the front range, I've ridden Winter Park - both XC and lift serviced, Nederland, and Hall Ranch. The techy portion of Hall Ranch KILLED me, but that was more man than machine.

    Love the bike, can't wait for my Crossmax ST 20mm's to come in, then she'll be under 30lb...

    Keep riding.

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    just wanna share my friend's TrailFox02...i sold him this frame and someone was kind enough to bring it to Dubai
    I appreciate his color combination to complement the frame
    Presenting the 2008 BMC TrailFox02









    11.24kg at present

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    Very nice build...congrats to your friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overthebars
    Very nice build...congrats to your friend!
    thanks

    you should see his other bikes they are amazing

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    That crank looks sick.

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    '07 Trailfox 2, how light?

    I'm thinking about getting a '07 Trailfox 2 from Jenson. I was just wondering how light I can build it up. I'm thinking of moving over components from my sub-22lb hardtail:
    fork: I have a pike 454 with an extrafirm coil (will eventually get a lighter 32 Talas later)
    easton xc-one wheelset
    raceface deus xc crankset with eggbeater sl pedals
    kenda karmas front and rear
    stan's tubeless
    PG-980 11-34 cassette
    thompson elite post
    wtb devo saddle
    avid juicy 5's
    xt front and rear deraileurs
    xt shifters
    monkeylite sl handlebar
    easton ea70 stem
    esi chunky grips
    pc-991 chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by v22osprey
    So if I want to build up a bike to feel very XC bike stretched and turn tighter, do I go with a setback seatpost or straight?

    It's a combination of things to consider for fit and ride characteristics. My Trek is a 17" frame rigid XC build. The 17" size is actually kinda small for me, but I compensate with a longer stem and would probably be more comfortable with a layback, but I don't use one. It's a steep headtube angle as well. This makes the standover low, and the steering very responsive. It also climbs like a goat. Tradeoff is that it gets nervous at high speeds. I don't do 40+ mph descents with this bike, but it will climb and carve with the best.

    My Giant is a 19" frame, with a 100mm travel fork. Much slacker headtube, and the frame is a better fit for me at 5' 11". This bike doesn't get nervous at speed at all. Trade off is that if feels like a pig in the corners, and pulls the front up on climbs my Trek will do all day long. Inverting my stem helped a little, but it still takes more effort to carve the twisties with this bike. Definitely more geared towards all mountain than XC.

    The layback seat would give a better power stroke, especially on the smaller frame, but I stay away from layback for 2 reasons. First, by the time I need that power, I'm climbing something too steep to remain seated for. Second, on descents and jumps, it's harder to go back behind the seat.

    So basically, the layback seat will extend your cockpit, but it extends your weight further over the rear. If you're comfortable with it, it's great, as climbs where you would bring the front up, you'll be standing already anyways. The longer stem actually ballances out steeper headtubes. A slacker headtube angle means you can use a shorter stem without getting twitchy. This saves weight and increases rigidity, both good.

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    Awesome looking bike man!

    I have a few questions about these frames though because i'm about to order one myself here in the next few days.

    I'm having trouble making a decsion on a framesize, i'm 6'3 currently riding a 21" hardtail but i feel like i'm riding a horse and i only have between 3" to 4" of standover heigh. So i'd like to get some opinions on if i should go with the 19" or 21"?

    Also do the rear dropouts on this frame accept regular quick-release axels or do I need a through axel rear hub?

    Thanks for the help...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcole623
    Awesome looking bike man!

    I have a few questions about these frames though because i'm about to order one myself here in the next few days.

    I'm having trouble making a decsion on a framesize, i'm 6'3 currently riding a 21" hardtail but i feel like i'm riding a horse and i only have between 3" to 4" of standover heigh. So i'd like to get some opinions on if i should go with the 19" or 21"?

    Also do the rear dropouts on this frame accept regular quick-release axels or do I need a through axel rear hub?

    Thanks for the help...

    I'd go with a 19. I am 5'11, and I run both a 19" and a 17". The 17" is just a litle more fun and easier to control.

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    Is there any information posted on standover heights of the various frame sizes? I'm wanting to pick one of these up, but cannot find the standover height anywhere...

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    Is it really 71 headangle?? Everywhere I read it says 69. But it looks really steep..
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    My paperwork shows 69... maybe too steep for serious downhill, but the bike works just fine for all-mountain, trail riding... etc. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcat
    Is it really 71 headangle?? Everywhere I read it says 69. But it looks really steep..
    Yes, the 07 has a 71 degree HT angle. The bike works with a 140mm fork though, which would slacken it out to about 69.5-70 degrees. Not exactly sure. If that's too much travel for you, a headset externalizer would help. http://enduroforkseals.com/id178.html Pretty sure it's compatible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros
    Yes, the 07 has a 71 degree HT angle. The bike works with a 140mm fork though, which would slacken it out to about 69.5-70 degrees. Not exactly sure. If that's too much travel for you, a headset externalizer would help. http://enduroforkseals.com/id178.html Pretty sure it's compatible

    I am using Enduroforks headset externalizer on my 2007 Trailfox. It adds 15mm which slakens the head angle about 3/4 of a degree. Works great. With the externalizer and a 130 mm suspension fork the head angle goes from 71 to just below 70 degrees.

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    the steeper the head angle is, the quicker the bike is going to steer...for downhills a slacker head angle is more preferable because it will have a more stable feel

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    bmc frames are farkin gorgeous. I'm proud to say I now work at a shop that sells bmc. half price frames! lol

    Meyrick the TF you posted takes the cake for sexiest colorway. I dig it!

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    I would like to buy this frame from JensonUSA and transfer my hardtail parts onto it but I only have a 100 mm fork... A Marzocchi XC 600... 07 I think.

    Is that going to be a Huge problem?

    I would in the future buy a more appropriate fork but I am thinking of this frame or an Ibex Asta. The Ibex Asta is more expensive but is made for 100mm forks and has a nicer rear shock, but I don't really know a whole lot about shocks/forks.

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    BMC recommends a fork in the 110-140 range. Pretty wide range if you ask me but whatever. Personally I'd get the BMC and try to find a good deal on a fork in the 120-130 range since the rear is 120.

    I own an Asta and it's a great bike but the BMC has a more refined rear suspension than the Asta's single pivot design. It should be a more efficient pedaler. The BMC also includes the headset.

    I'd also suggest making sure that the parts from your hardtail fit the BMC frame. You may need to change things like the front derailleur, seat post, bottom bracket, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13
    BMC recommends a fork in the 110-140 range. Pretty wide range if you ask me but whatever. Personally I'd get the BMC and try to find a good deal on a fork in the 120-130 range since the rear is 120.
    I bought an '07 Trailfox 2 from Jenson and set it up with a RockShox Revelation 426 fork with 100-130mm of travel. Works pretty well, but on steep descents I wish for a bit more slack in the head angle. I think I'll definitely be giving the headset externalizer a try...

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    I too was looking at the headset externalizer as well, but realized hey this will shorten my "steerer tube" length. Do you know what the thickness is of the externalizer? I currently have 2 spacers above my stem right now which total 15mm, not sure if this would be enough room to spare for an externalizer if I did get one.

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    The description says "ADDS 15mm OF SPACE BETWEEN THE FORK CROWN AND THE HEAD TUBE", so I would assume that you're good to go...

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    As awesome of an outside of the box idea they've come up with, you'd think they could have come up with different sizes, like 7,10,15mm. To test how much steerer tube it would leave, I left a 15mm gap and unfortunately the tube barely touches the bottom of the top stem bolt. I think I've asked before, but does anyone highly advise against leaving it like that? I know you're ideally supposed to have it clear both bolts, but I mean, what's the worst case scenario if it doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros
    As awesome of an outside of the box idea they've come up with, you'd think they could have come up with different sizes, like 7,10,15mm. To test how much steerer tube it would leave, I left a 15mm gap and unfortunately the tube barely touches the bottom of the top stem bolt. I think I've asked before, but does anyone highly advise against leaving it like that? I know you're ideally supposed to have it clear both bolts, but I mean, what's the worst case scenario if it doesn't?
    Even better would be if it came in 0.5 degree increments.. wouldnt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neu5p3ed
    I too was looking at the headset externalizer as well, but realized hey this will shorten my "steerer tube" length. Do you know what the thickness is of the externalizer? I currently have 2 spacers above my stem right now which total 15mm, not sure if this would be enough room to spare for an externalizer if I did get one.

    I have the externalizer on my bike. It is 15mm. The orofional headset bottom piece added about 2-3mm so the difference is about 13mm. I had two spacers above my stem that were both 10mm. I removed both and added a 5mm spacer. Worked great. As I'm sure you figured out the handlebars will still be the same height.

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    so,,,

    I am 5'8, would it be alright using a 17' or a 19". I am talking about BMC trailfox 02 for 09 model.

    Also, in taiwan the people at the bike shop saying that 19" is way too big for me, and should be using a 17" bike. They said that i should be using either 16" or 17" bike, so advice me.

    CHeers.

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    so,,,

    I am 5'8, would it be alright using a 17' or a 19". I am talking about BMC trailfox 02 for 09 model.

    Also, in taiwan the people at the bike shop saying that 19" is way too big for me, and should be using a 17" bike. They said that i should be using either 16" or 17" bike, so advice me.

    CHeers.
    I'm 5' 8.5" tall without shoes and have a 32" inseam. I bought a 2007 TF02 from Jenson and they recommended the 17" frame. It seems to work pretty well, but I've got a 100mm stem and a slightly more XC setup. With a short (~70mm) stem like most AM guys use, I think the cockpit might start to feel a bit cramped.

    By way of comparison, I did a demo of a 19" (= Large) Specialized Pitch Pro last weekend. It had a 75mm stem and I didn't have any problems with the fit. In fact, I was pretty darn impressed with the bike, though I have to admit I didn't ride anything super-technical. It seemed to climb a lot better than my Trailfox, which I wasn't expecting. The slack head tube (67-degrees) and better suspension (Pike 351+RP2 vs. my Revelation 426+Ario 2.2) made downhills more fun, too. Compared to the RP2, the Ario 2.2 is pretty unimpressive...
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    sweet build

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    Quote Originally Posted by section61
    so,,,

    I am 5'8, would it be alright using a 17' or a 19". I am talking about BMC trailfox 02 for 09 model.

    Also, in taiwan the people at the bike shop saying that 19" is way too big for me, and should be using a 17" bike. They said that i should be using either 16" or 17" bike, so advice me.

    CHeers.
    You should try and sit on another 19" bike that is similar or better yet a BMC. At your height, I think a 19" frame would be huge. not good stand-over clearance and much more xc orientated setup.

    where do you ride in taiwan? I live in Taipei and like to go to helen's, gasplant and graveyard. 5-fingered mountain, linguang mrt and tienmu to be more specific.
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    Bmc Tf02

    I live in Taichung and I think it's Dalee town or something.

    I don't know much about where to go mountain bike riding in taichung because I don't know around the town.

    My plan at this stage is get a bike (BMC TF02 is not even available in Taiwan yet, well there is one demo and the stock is not coming in till April after the bike show in Taipei this week which I am planing to go).

    Anyway, here is my private email Plasticc4@gmail.com

    Any coments welcome

    Cheers.

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    Very nice setup. Those atomlabs look sweet with the white spokes and the whole build has a really nice balance in color Sweet.
    Sizing Question: I am considering a Trailfox 2.0 for my next build, but not sure what size. I am 6'2 in tall with a 35 in inseam what size 19 or 21"? Thanks in advance.

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    Hi mrdemo7,

    I just built up a 21" 07 TF02, I am 6"4 and have about 35" inseam also. Sizing is a difficult call, coming from a 20" kona kula I am not that happy with the standover only got 2-3" but the reach feels about right. Think a 19" may be too short for you but depends what you like. Only been able to ride on road as broke my hand 8 weeks ago and its not up to proper riding yet - will update once I give it a proper go.

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    Hey man,

    Wow, you said the completely to what WIlly said. He recongs that 19" is too bit for me and you said it might be a bit short for m.

    ANyway, I will look hard into it. I really like that bike, but someone said that Specialized Pitch Pro climbs better than BMC TF02.

    By the way, why did you buy 07 model??? what's wrong with 08 and 09 models???

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by section61
    Wow, you said the completely to what WIlly said. He recongs that 19" is too bit for me and you said it might be a bit short for m.
    I'm only slightly taller than you and I went with the 17" frame. I wouldn't consider a 19" 2007 Trailfox unless you're 5'10" or 5'11".

    ANyway, I will look hard into it. I really like that bike, but someone said that Specialized Pitch Pro climbs better than BMC TF02.
    That was probably me. I've yet to find a setup for the Ario 2.2 shock that isn't disappointing. To be fair, I've been spending most of my rides playing around with my fork. Now that it seems to be where I want it, I'll spend some time with the shock... Hopefully, I can find a setup that works; the current one really wants to wallow when pedaling out of the saddle.

    By the way, why did you buy 07 model??? what's wrong with 08 and 09 models???
    People are buying the 07 model because the frame is dirt cheap ($500) at Jenson USA. The '08 and '09 frames are a lot more money...

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    Yeah, I think the 07 was their first year model. It's basically just their fourstroke model with an extra inch of travel. I really like this bike, especially for price I paid, but the 09 model looks a lot better. Unfourtanetly it costs about 4X as much as mine did. I might consider trying to sell my frame, I'm starting to want new Santa Cruz Chameleon. Love that you can run a long fork on it, and I kinda miss the simplicity of a hardtail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Willy
    Hey mate, nice build.
    I have the same model and it is a great bike, have had to spend more time and money on getting it right from out of the box but its worth it.
    My biggest recommendation? Fox rear shock, the Ario is below par and you'll struggle to get full travel out of it.
    Im running a Shimano front derailleur on mine and to anyone building up a fourstroke or trailfox, be wary, the clearance on the cage is tight with the chainstay- mine ended up contacting at full travel, so now im on the hunt for a sram front derailleur that has a shorter cage.
    Otherwise, enjoy!
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    Anyone know the rear shock dimensions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacolmm
    Anyone know the rear shock dimensions?
    7.875x2.0 (a.k.a. 200mmx50mm), I believe.

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    Here is my BMC Trailfox 02 (2007) bike I just finished building up. (I currently do not have a front derailleur and am going to get a longer stem)

    Frame BMC TrailFox 02 '07
    Crank Old Crank
    Brakes Avid Elixir 5
    Cassette Old Cassette
    Derailleurs Front: NEED BOTTOM SWING + TOP PULL
    Rear: Shimano SLX Shadow Rear Derailleur M662
    Forks Rock Shox Recon 351 Solo Air Forks 2010 140mm White Maxle Lite
    Chain Shimano CN-HG73 9 Speed Chain
    Shifters Shimano SLX Shifters 9sp M660
    Stem Truvativ Hussefelt Stem 2009 White
    Handlbar Truvativ Hussefelt Comp Riser Bars 2009
    Saddle Funn Saddles Skinny RL Saddle Snake
    Grips Azonic*Love Handle MTB Grips
    Rear Wheel My old Wheelset
    Front Wheel Hope Pro v2, Spank Oozy, DT Swiss Spokes, Red Nipples, Smart Sam Tyre
    Seatpost FSA SL-250 XC Seatpost
    Chain Shimano HG73 Chain 9 Speed
    Cables (outers) Shimano XT
    Pedals Gusset Slim Jim
    Headset FSA Orbit Z

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    Nice build!

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    cheers

    I still have to get new cranks, cassette, rear wheel

    Something I found weird is that I am 5 foot 8 but I find the bike too small. I think this is the stem because I really like the feel of the Giant Trance 20" which has a 100mm stem compared to my 40mm one.

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    really nice bike bloober amazing u only spent 2k on it, =P

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    cheers mate,

    I am really pleased with the Recon 351 forks, and from my research I was wondering what separated them from the Pike 454's? According the the SRAM website the only difference is the Recons are a little lighter which seems weird for a lower - tier product.

    I have been getting a squishing sound coming from the forks on the rebound is this just them bedding in?

    Thanks alot

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    That's normal. It's the oil going through the rebound circuit.

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    cheers

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    Ok,guys. I am a female looking to buy a BMC trailfox 02. I am a little over 5'6" with an inseam of 30". Will the 17 work? I ride a 51"BMC Team machine road bike that fits me like a dream. And one more thing, did they make the black and white frame in '08?

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    Hmm, going from a 51" to a 17", the 17" will be tiny.

    Seriously now, the 17" will work for you just fine.

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    Sorry, that would be 51 cm. I am new at mountain biking and I am just learning what's what. Here is a run down of the bike I'm looking to purchase. What do you think over all?

    - SWISS DESIGN - APS (ADVANCED PIVOT SYSTEM) SUSPENSION


    - ROCKSHOX MC3.1 REAR SHOCK WITH 100MM TRAVEL


    - ROCKSHOX REBA TEAM FORK WITH MOTION CONTROL AND REMOTE LOCKOUT (100MM TRAVEL)


    COMPONENTS:

    SRAM X-0 GRIP SHIFTERS


    SHIMANO XT M752 CRANKSET 175MM


    SRAM X-9 REAR DERAILLEUR


    SHIMANO XT FRONT DERAILLUR

    AVID JUICY HYDRAULIC DISC BRAKESET/LEVERS (6" ROTORS)


    SHIMANO XT CASSETTE


    WTB SHADOW-V SADDLE

    THOMSON ELITE SEATPOST

    BONTRAGER RACE XXX-LITE CARBON RISER HANDLEBARS (OS CLAMP, 630MM WIDE)

    RITCHEY WCS STEM 100MM


    WHEELSET:

    BONTRAGER RACE X-LITE (TUBELESS READY) WHEELSET


    REAR WHEEL CURRENTLY HAS A TUBE IN IT AND THE FRONT IS SET-UP TUBELESS

    WEIGHT:

    25.5 POUNDS

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    Hmmm, we'll need to see pictures of your legs to say for sure....

    Seriously though, that sounds like a very nice build.
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