I asked this also, but no reply as of yet. If the frame price is reasonable, this will most likely be my next bike. :)
Originally Posted by seleniak
Just got information from tomsbikecorner.de that the FS01 frame will be available in 01.03.2013 and will have a MSRP of 2999 € ! (FS02 will not be available as a frameset)
Originally Posted by seleniak
Let's just hope the actual selling price will be a bit lower...if not, then FS02 complete bike would be a much better option as it is only 500 € more expensive:
BMC Fourstroke FS02 29 XT wei kaufen bei tomsbikecorner.de
EDIT: Also got information that the carbon and layout are not the same for FS02 as FS01 so it's not only the aluminium chainstays that are different...
Twentynineinches has the FS01 on test, look forward to more feedback from them.
BMC Fourstroke FS01: On Test
TwentyNineInches has their mid-term report up on the FS01. http://twentynineinches.com/2012/11/...fs01-mid-term/
Surprisingly little new to say, but they still love it.
Any news on when this bike will be available in the U.S. market? I was told spring 2013. Is there a delay?
Hi TJ, We've already shipped the first batch. The next selection of FS01s and FS02s should be in our warehouse within a few weeks. :thumbsup:
Originally Posted by TJRosson
I'm still waiting on mine. I was told December, but I'm not sure exactly what that meant. Hopefully soon.
Thanks. A person at Competitive Cyclist told me they'd have them in the spring. I thought that was kinda late.
Originally Posted by RiDe_BMC
Got word on Friday that my FS01 X0 size L is on its way!
I picked up my new FS01 29 X0 last night. It's a size large. Out of the box with plastic test pedals it weighed 24.5 lbs. This is with the heavy Onza tires and tubes. Of course it's raining here so it'll be a bit before I can take it out for a spin, but I can't wait. Having been riding the SF29 since February I'm very familiar and a big fan of the handling. Can't wait to see how the CTD suspension feels, how the carbon frame compares and how the much lighter bike rides.
Just a heads up: the spec page for the FS01 XO lists the fork as "Fox 32 Float CTD Adj FIT Factory Kashima 100mm". The fork that came on my bike doesn't have the Kashima coat or the trail adjust knob. This was mildly disappointing, but I will say it's the only disappointing part of the bike. Everything else is super sharp and as spec'ed. The black/red X0 shifters and brakes look awesome with the frame. The X0 cassette is so sweet, I hadn't seen one of those before. The type 2 rear der seems like it will really reduce chain slap and drops.The Easton wheels look really nice, even though I'm not planning to use them, and they did include the tubeless valve stems and 12x135 rear axle adapters. The optional chainguide that mounts to the chainstay WAS included so that's a cool feature if you want to use it. I weighed the Onza Canis tires, and though I'd seen reported weights elsewhere of over 800g, mine weighed in at 628g and 648g, which is really pretty good for a meaty 2.25 tire. Can't wait to finish my build and show it off.
Andrew-FSR - would love an actual frame weight if you don't mind
Originally Posted by Andrew-FSR
I don't think I'll ever get it stripped down to frame only, sorry. If I do I'll post the weight though.
Originally Posted by seleniak
tested and approved:thumbsup::thumbsup:
now finding an agreement wiht my lbs to have the ultimate spec
for my riding
seems difficult to find full-oem-bikes in my size
it rides like a DW-link (ouch)
it is a little more nervous in the long/fast downhill then I expected
(but then I have a coil-sprung 150mm enduro bike as well)
but the wheels help you over most of the loose branches etc
for "trial" the geo&29er wheels are superb
how to finalise spec tomorrow
and then race it in the Ardennes (.BE) early may:thumbsup:
What does this mean?
Originally Posted by flupke73
rear suspension has little pedal-bob,
damper is not very important,
although for some rough trails it is a bit less playfull
Here's the new build. Still waiting on the new fork, so haven't gotten a final weight yet. The fork on there now is a 2012 RLC, I sold the stock fork and ordered a 2013 CTD w/ Trail Adjust to replace it.
Roval Carbon wheels
Specialized Phenom saddle
Easton EC90 110mm stem
Ergon GS1 grips
Crankbrothers Eggbeater 11s
Schwalbe Rocket Ron/Racing Ralph (currently Snakeskins for rocky race this weekend, will be EVOs normally)
Compared to my 2012 SF29, the difference in weight is very noticeable when moving the bike around on the trail. I'm not sure I can feel any difference accelerating (no climbs around here to really feel a difference on) but the handling is clearly lighter. The frame stiffness helps in the corners, I thought the SF29 was stiff but this one holds a line even better. I had been using these wheels on the SF29 also so the differences I'm feeling are in the frame. The rear suspension is plusher, probably due to the new damper with the Kashima coat and the new bushing at the top shock mount. I wouldn't say it's more active under pedaling though, just plusher through the rough. I didn't feel a huge difference between the Descend and Trail positions, but Climb is very stiff, pretty much locked out. Feelings are subjective, but the proof is in the numbers: my first 2 days on the bike I set 8 new PRs, 3 of them KOMs. It's fast.
2013 BMC fourstroke FS01 XTR.
hopefully the snow melts soon so I can take it for a ride!
i'll post up a review in a few weeks time once I get some miles on it.
It was either this, or the niner jet 9 RDO. But I fell in love w/ the BMC.
Weight w/o pedals is 22.8lbs (i converted the ounces) for a LARGE frame--well below what i've seen posted for the medium frame. With XTR race pedals, i'm expecting the weight to be around 23.47lbs.
This is running the race kings tubeless using stan's sealant.
Great looking bike! Have you had much experience with other full suspension 29ers? I ride the hardtail version of your bike and love it but am curious how this suspension climbs and how efficient it is. I look forward to your impressions.
This is actually my first mountain bike. I have a road cycling background and come from the 'stiffer the better' mentality. So I was definitely worried about getting a FS bike and having it bobbing under power. There's definitely a lack of stiffness coming from my road bike, but i'm going to say that any bobbing you do notice (with the suspension locked out) is most likely a function of running a high volume tire at a low PSI).
So yea, this bike is incredibly efficient.
I finally put in a good 50 mile ride on it today.
not sure if you're familiar w/ boulder, colorado, but I set out to ride walker ranch and rode up flagstaff mountain road. This is normally a tough climb on a road bike, especially the last few miles.
I locked out the suspension, and managed to get within ONE MINUTE of my best time on my super light road bike (~15lbs or less, carbon frame, enve wheels etc). I was blowing by people on road bikes.
On one of the strava segments (flagstaff to walker and back), I cut 20 minutes off my best time on my road bike. Part of this is b/c I ride another 5 miles beyond walker and am pretty spent by the time I come back up the backside of flagstaff road. But a big part of it was that I LOVE the gearing on the bike, and it enabled me to save my legs and spin up the climb.
I'm not talking about granny-gearing it, but being able to ride the 32x11 seems to be just the right gearing to keep me below threshold and spin up the climb.
The bike definitely isn't lacking in top end speed either. I have a 12x28 w/ a 53 big chainring on my road bike, and I was surprised that I could power down a lot of the descents.
I didn't do a ton of technical climbing on the trails, but I did hit a few steep sections.
I was able to power up the steep, rocky sections pretty efficiently using the trail settings front and rear. If you do a ton of super steep climbs, you may want to consider a 100 or 110 stem. I definitely felt the front get light on some of the really steep stuff.
I didn't think i'd like the 90mm stem that comes stock, but the bike fits me really well (6.2, 33 inseam, 158lbs). The shorter stem definitely makes the bike feel playful and agile.
I've yet to run the suspension fully open b/c my route didn't have a lot of technical descents. But the trail mode did it's job admirably (I rode it on the firm trail tune).
I'm running around 22-24% sag in the rear and a lil less up front b/c I like it to be as close to locked out as I can get it for climbing.
The rear is incredibly efficient at transferring power. You can power up the climbs in the trail mode. It almost feels more efficient in trail mode, especially if it's a technical, rocky climb.
I wish the front fork had a lil more of a true lockout, but i'm sure I can add some pressure and get it a lil stiffer. Although i'll probably change my mind on this once the more technical trails dry out. This was probably also compounded by a problem I was having w/ my front tire not sealing up and leaking air during the ride (it lost about 25psi). So i'm sure that had a lot to do w /a the front end feeling less than ideal.
The XTR brakes are AWESOME, but I probably didn't need to tell you that.
definitely no complaints about the wheels, but the raceking race sport tires are a ***** to get them to seal. Plan to use 1.5 + bottles of stan's, as they pop up a lot of pinhole leaks.
If you're on the fence, I would get this bike w/o a doubt. The FS model has better traction than a hard tail, allowing you to run higher pressure in the tires. The rear tracks the ground so so well. The fourstroke is only 1lb heavier than the team elite, which is pretty insignificant considering what the average rider carries with them on longer rides.
I put in a 75 mile ride on sunday (about 50 miles of single track). The bike can definitely hold its on out there on technical terrain.
A word of caution: put at least 3oz of stans in each tire (4 oz would be safe). I've gone through 5 CO2 cartridges during the course of 2 rides. at first the front tires was losing air. had a mechanic add more sealant, and now it hasn't lost pressure in 2 days. the rear is beat up pretty bad from the ride, sidewall leaking stans all over the place. definitely going to have to add more sealant. the conti's are super porous. i'd steer clear and mount a different tire like a racing ralph.
a few other observations:
if you put 40psi in the tires and lock the suspension, it literally feels like a road bike--it simply does not bob under power.
Finally got my FS01 on the scale today. Weight in Large is 22.48lbs. I was pretty happy. Build list at weigh-in is below:
X0 drivetrain (stock)
Specialized bottle cage
Roval Control SL wheelset
Schwalbe Racing Ralph rear/Rocket Ron front
Fox 100mm F29 CTD w/Trail Adjust fork
Easton EC70 straight seatpost
Specialized Phenom SL saddle
Easton EC90 110mm stem
Easton EC70 XC Wide bar (stock)
Ergon GX1 grips