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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    Packing my Wingnut Hyper 3.0 for the commute to work in the am and I thought I would check to see if they have anything new.

    www.wingnutgear.com turned up empty

    I really like this pack.

    Any info?

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    I checked their domain earlier today, and it shows an expiration date of March 20, 2012. Could be that they just forgot to renew it. When I called their phone number, I got voice mail--which is pretty normal. I left them a message about their site, so hopefully they'll get it back up again.

    I hope that everything is OK--Wingnut is a very innovative and fun company, and it would really suck if they are gone. But I'm going to remain optimistic that it's just a temporary domain glitch until I hear otherwise. Hopefully I'll get a call back shortly!

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    I left them another message, and sent an e-mail to a non-wingnut.com address. Still nothing. I'll try some more on Monday...

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    wow...thought I was going crazy last night when I went to go purchase another pack for the AZT300....hope they are not belly up...I lurve their gear.

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    Toby, I see someone posted the same question on bikepacking.net around the same time I did. Strange coincidence. I had not commuted with it in a while and forgot how much I liked it.

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    I just got a new 2.5 from them last week.
    They make great stuff but are a little flaky.
    Id bet they either forgot to pay a bill or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endomaniac View Post
    I just got a new 2.5 from them last week.
    They make great stuff but are a little flaky.
    Id bet they either forgot to pay a bill or something.
    Nobody from Wingnut has called me back or returned my e-mails. Since you just had contact with them, maybe try giving them a buzz to see if you have better luck reaching them? Thanks!

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    man it seems all these bikepacking company's are MIA! except for porcelain Rocket. I've email 5 company's and no one has gotten back to me! i know there is high demand but man its getting irritating!!

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    Wingnut is a one man show and makes the best packs IMO... tough to compete with Camelback. I contacted them 7-8 months ago to see if they'd do repair work on my Hyper 3.0, ended up fixing it myself but wish I had bought a new one just in case they are out of the business.... gasp!

    Ok, just checked, site is back up and live, must have been a delay in renewing his domain.

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    website seems to be up and working now

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    site not working for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpaxc View Post
    site not working for me.
    It's working for me. Looks like they just renewed their domain name, which takes awhile to propagate over the Internet. I bet that you can hit it within 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpaxc View Post
    site not working for me.


    Try using a different browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Try using a different browser.
    Or try hitting refresh.

    Good to see this back up and running. I just learned about Wingnut recently and was disappointed that I couldn't find any current information on them.

    Anyone have any first-hand experience with the Adventure pack?

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    Got it working now. I own 2 different Wingnuts 2.5, 3.0. I used the 2.5 this weekend and after 3 days on the trail I found a weakness I'd like to see fixed with the harness system. I think it may have been done as I have an older one. I sent an email, but no reply yet. Essentially I'd like to see a better padded harness on the curve of the shoulders. The thin material tended to bind up on me creating some hot spots/pressure points on my back shoulders.

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    I really like Wingnut Packs. For me, the whole design concept works really well, with weight low on the back. The side pockets are awesome in that you can actually access them without removing the pack, and they do an amazing job of keeping the pack from 'flopping' back and forth, like so many packs do.

    I used an Adventure Pack on a big bikepacking tour of the Kokopelli Trail and the Arizona Trail in 2010 and it was a perfect compliment to the common bikepacking setup. Just enough volume for the things that don't fit perfectly into either the framebag, handlebar bag or seatpack. We cooked each night, so I used it mostly as a stash-spot for kitchen stuff. And bagels...

    I now use a Hyper 3.0 for day rides. Same awesome design elements, just smaller. Perfect for a rain shell, a bit of food, and a bladder.

    I do agree with sherpaxc, however. I do wish there were a bit of padding in the shoulder/back harness area. I do occasionally get similar hot spots. I would also like to see some beefier zippers on the packs.

    I know that Scott (owner of Wingnut) is not alone there. He has at least a few people sewing for him. Having spoken with him at least a year ago, it sounds like he has his hands in a number of different projects, of which Wingnut is one. Very nice guy, just a bit tough to get a hold of.

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    I'm looking into having a harness made for my Wingnut. I love everything about the pack, but for sure I want an updated version of the harness. Give me the padding of the talon 22 with the design of the Wingnut and I'd be a very happy bikecamper.

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    For those mentioning that they would like padding on the straps...are you sure you're wearing the pack properly? Most of the weight should be carried on your hips/lower back, I thought that was the whole idea of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D45yth View Post
    For those mentioning that they would like padding on the straps...are you sure you're wearing the pack properly? Most of the weight should be carried on your hips/lower back, I thought that was the whole idea of them?
    Yeah, that crossed my mind too. I think of the Wingnut as sort of a large fanny pack with straps for stability. I really like the ventilated straps--I never get sweaty shoulders like I do with other packs!

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    I'm sure I'm wearing them correctly. While there isn't a lot of actual weight on the shoulders, the 3-d mesh that they use just isn't stiff enough for me and tends to bind up.

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    Has anyone seen the new osprey zealot? Looks like a good replacement for the wingnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lost27 View Post
    Has anyone seen the new osprey zealot? Looks like a good replacement for the wingnut.
    Bill, those packs don't even look the same in comparison (just a brief look on the website). The Zealot looks to be more like a traditional backpack. Also, I am not a fan at all of Osprey's use of that back netting on their packs. I've had one before and after a long day it rubs into your back. Druber had that same problem this past weekend with his Osprey.

    I actually really like the looks of Camelbacks Ocatane pack, but it still sit's a bit higher on my back than I'd prefer. Zimmerbuilt Packs does custom work and I'm looking into having him build me one similar to the wingnut. It would be a bikepacking pack only though because as you know full well, the cedars out here will tear up a pack pretty quickly.

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    I used to have a wingnut pack. best pack i have ever used, hands down. I did have a zipper issue and sent it back to scott for some repair. It wasnt a huge issue and if I had known I would never see the pack again I would have never sent it back. Weeks turned to months and I just gave up and got an osprey pack. Its not perfect but its not far off. If wingnut gets back on top of things I will ABSOLUTELY buy more of their awesome product. I love supporting the smaller companies especially when they get a design so right.

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    I just received a pack I ordered...it took a little longer than I expected (10-12 days or so), but it showed up. They're still in business, but as someone said: a little flaky. They have the best design, tho.
    whatever...

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    I ordered up one on April 17th - will see how long it takes to get it

    Was hoping to have it by Monday but who knows

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    Interestingly enough, I just got an email from them today. It was a reply to an email I sent on MARCH 27th!!!

    Not sure what I want to do at this point. I love the product, have had one since 07, but I'm not sure I trust sending my pack in to them for a repair.

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    I just heard from Scott (Wingnut owner) today. He says that things are back on track.

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    I heard from Scott as well this morning - says there was a material shortage but it should be back in stock next week. I'm ready to get my new bag

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    Figured i'd update on this - my pack showed up on Friday

    Now to check it out and see how i like it - does look pretty nice and all so far though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Figured i'd update on this - my pack showed up on Friday

    Now to check it out and see how i like it - does look pretty nice and all so far though.

    Ed
    Thanks for the update! Good to hear that they are shipping. I hope that you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!

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    The site is still pretty flaky.

    I have a 2.5 and it just ripped below the zipper for the water bladder compartment. I'm guessing that it would be better if I just take it to a local place to get some heavy duty stitching done on it. I need it in 10 days for a big ride and I'm guessing that it won't get turned around in time.

    I really hope they can keep it together. I love their packs. It would be hard to go back to a Camel Bak or Ergon pack.

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    I like the Wingnut 2.5 that I have. The lower back position is great for keeping the weight off of my lame neck.

    My only quibble is that I've ripped both mesh wing pockets. Maybe they need to be made of a bit beefier material...or, I guess I should stop crashing!
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    Anyone heard from Wingnut lately? I placed an order for a Hyper 3.0 a while back. No pack, plus their emails are bouncing, and the voice mail is full. I know they are a bit flaky, but just curious if anyone has received an order from them recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Dave View Post
    Anyone heard from Wingnut lately? I placed an order for a Hyper 3.0 on Sept 28. No pack, plus their emails are bouncing, and the voice mail is full. I know they are a bit flaky, but just curious if anyone has received an order from them recently. I have an endurance race next weekend so my fingers are crossed.
    That's a bummer. I absolutely love my pack and was >< close to ordering a new one, but you guys have me worried.

    I have an Osprey that I've been using to give my Wingnut a break... while I'm getting used to it, it's no where near as good for my back as the wingnut. Hope they haven't been responsive because they're so busy with orders

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    Finally received the pack I ordered in September. Took 2 1/2 months, but it got here in time for Christmas. Ho ho ho. :beer:
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    Yeah, Scott is a character. Trying to reach him about a repair, emails keep bouncing back. Anyone have any info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    Yeah, Scott is a character. Trying to reach him about a repair, emails keep bouncing back. Anyone have any info?
    Same problem here. I tried emailing about getting an adventure pack for bikepacking, but just a failed delivery email was all I got. I love my hyper 3.0, best pack ever, even though mice in Moab ate away at my mesh pockets a bit. Nothing beats it. Osprey might be my best option now, hopefully they will just sell their design to someone who has interest in making it.

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    Neil... as a bikepacking supplier myself... I have to be careful what I say... a bit. There are a lot of flaky companies around in almost every capacity (bike, bikepacking, accessory, etc). Just look around the forums a bit. I don't mean to sound like I'm calling him flaky. Quite the contrary. However, as a small company I have to do almost everything (website, marketing, email, shipping, bank stuff... that's all before sewing & development, let alone going for a ride). My comment was meant more as sympathy/empathy than anything.

    Myself... I've spent the last week fighting a glitch in building a website and not sewing. Sadly, I still don't have a 'real' internet presence outside of Facebook/Etsy (look for SpoK Werks) and people who know me. In any case... if you're in Europe (the Euro/Dollar thing is a bit price prohibitive) I'd be happy to make something for you. I will say though, my feeling is that Porcelain Rocket is my example for how I want to be in a couple of years. Good, affordable, responsive and fun.

    Good luck with Wingnut.. They really have/had some interesting ideas. In fact, the new Inov8 running packs have a similar bladder and design.
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    Just saw on their website that their was a Feb 14th, 2013 post saying updates on their website coming soon
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    How do these type of packs (low rider) work with the large seat packs like the Revelate bags? Does the pack hang to low and get in the way with each other or is there enough room? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluechip View Post
    How do these type of packs (low rider) work with the large seat packs like the Revelate bags? Does the pack hang to low and get in the way with each other or is there enough room? Thanks
    Not an issue.

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    Just ordered a Wingnut Pack. **fingers crossed** I'll post an update on what happens in terms of delivery time.
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    I finally received acknowledgement from Scott about my warranty replacement. So I am waiting too.

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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluechip View Post
    How do these type of packs (low rider) work with the large seat packs like the Revelate bags? Does the pack hang to low and get in the way with each other or is there enough room? Thanks
    Wingnut packs are totally adjustable for height. It you had it low enough to interfere with a seat bag, it would hang up on the back of saddle if the seat bag was not there.
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    Put in my Hyper 3.0 order on May 8th. Haven't heard a peep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluechip View Post
    How do these type of packs (low rider) work with the large seat packs like the Revelate bags? Does the pack hang to low and get in the way with each other or is there enough room? Thanks
    I've used both together and had no interference issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Just ordered a Wingnut Pack. **fingers crossed** I'll post an update on what happens in terms of delivery time.
    Got an update on my pack. It's in the build process and should be done in a week or so.

    I'm cool with waiting as long as I know it's workin its way to me.
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    Are there any other packs that have a similar design to the WN Adventure Pack? I like the having the weight down low like a hybrid backpack/fannypack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Are there any other packs that have a similar design to the WN Adventure Pack? I like the having the weight down low like a hybrid backpack/fannypack.
    Mountainsmith's lumbar packs paired with their Strappettes carry similarly to the Wingnuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farley View Post
    Mountainsmith's lumbar packs paired with their Strappettes carry similarly to the Wingnuts.
    +1 thanks.

    I also found the Zimmerbuilt Pack which looks nice.



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