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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Just ordered a Wingnut Pack. **fingers crossed** I'll post an update on what happens in terms of delivery time.
    Got my WN Adventure Pack today. Looks good. Just waiting for some less wet weather to get out and use it.

    The order to delivery timeframe was looooooong...so be ready for that and don't expect to get one overnight for a trip.
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    What king of bladder do you use for the Wingnut Hyper 2.5?
    Camelbak LR ?

    Looking at the picture I can't see where a regular .70 bladder would go
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    I use a regular 3 liter which works fine. Just can't fill it completely. 80 oz max

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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    Finally received my warranty Hyper 2.5 a couple weeks ago. Took a while but Scott came through. Answered emails and even the phone , so maybe things have come together.


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    Really, wow! Thats great to hear! Thanks for letting us know.

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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    Yeah, I was shocked myself


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Got my WN Adventure Pack today. Looks good. Just waiting for some less wet weather to get out and use it.

    The order to delivery timeframe was looooooong...so be ready for that and don't expect to get one overnight for a trip.
    I got my WN pack after a long multi-month wait.

    Tried it out and the harness didn't fit me very well around the shoulder/neck area.

    Had a friend with sewing skills try and help me modify the harness, but the result wasn't any better.

    Started thinking about ordering a new harness or having somebody else local build me a harness to work with the pack.

    Then realized how much $$/time I had invested without getting a pack that worked for me so I just gave up and spent hr shopping locally and bought an off the shelf pack that fits great.

    The design of the WN pack looks good, but there were so many snafus in my experience I'd be hard pressed to recommend anyone buy one - unless you are able to find a store that stocks them and try on the one you are going to buy.

    I have never had fit issues with a pack before and my dimensions are normal so I can't explain the poor fit of the harness. I don't have a second one try on to see if it was a production mistake or if the WN packs just don't fit me.

    I can typically walk into an outdoor store and walk out with a comfortable pack in 10-15 mins so I'm not normally hard to fit.
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    After reading about these great packs I ordered a hyper 2.5 and can't wait to start riding with it. What's the best blatter for the 2.5 these days? I see that the square ones people use to use isn't being used anymore. Thanks
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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    Quote Originally Posted by hammockman View Post
    After reading these angryish e-mails I went ahead and ordered a hyper 2.5 and can't wait to start riding with it. What's the best blatter for the 2.5 these days? I see that the square ones people use to use isn't being used anymore. Thanks
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    Thanks, I hadn't seen that one yet. It looks perfect for the hyper 2.5.

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    Just got an e-mail from Scott of Wingnut Gear and after only two days my hyper 2.5 has shipped. Thanks Scott!
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    I just ordered a Hyper 3.0 earlier this week. Can't wait to try it out!

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    I received a Wingnut Enduro and found it excellent.
    Use it with a Source 3 liter bladder on where I have put a magnetic held bite valve from Osprey. Great combination.
    Bought it on wingnutgear.com

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    What happened to Wingnut packs?

    I've used a hyper 2.5 for about 5/6years now. (Disclaimer.. Not used for every Mtb ride) I really love this pack.
    A few stitches have started to Frey and I've found shoe glue works wonders on all the seams and stitch overlaps.
    I've even used the shoeglue to reinforce things that haven't failed yet.
    Another use of the glue is to put a small bead or line on end of straps that you've cut to your personal length, the bead of glue prevents strap from slipping out of strap if you cut the extra length off.
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    I use a camelback 50oz bladder in my hyper 2.5
    Also just ordered an Assault
    On 8-4-15. If It shows up by 8-15 ill use it for TS100 race. Fingers crossed.
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    Have had my Adventure pack since Mar 2014. Never been able to use it because the straps fit me so poorly. Never had a problem with any other off the shelf pack straps fitting me so I can only assume my dimensions are normal.

    Instead of the straps laying flat like on all my other packs they sit only on the inner edge and dig into my neck/shoulders which is irritating and not something I want to feel for hours on end.

    My experience ordering the pack was awful with months of delays and terrible communications that were almost never accurate.



    I tried to have a friend alter them for me and it was better, but still not great. I was hoping to use this pack for bikepacking and hiking...both would require wearing it comfortably for hours at a time.

    I gave up for a while and let the pack sit in the corner of my office gathering dust. Then I thought maybe I got a badly made harness. Since my friend altered the harness trying to fix it I didn't feel it was reasonable to ask for warranty support so I emailled Wing Nut and asked if I could buy a new harness.

    They said yes and gave me a price which I accepted.

    After a month with no communications I tried to contact them again asking about my harness and asking for a Paypal invoice so I could pay for it.

    Nothing. Dead air.

    It's sad because the pack itself looks decent and my main bikepacking pack is getting on 15yrs+ and will wear out one of these days so I'd love to have a replacement ready to go, but if I am thinking about the straps digging into my neck and back I can't wear it.

    I've got a friend who has agreed to fabricate me a new harness from scratch. **fingers crossed** He can make something comfortable. He's got industrial sewing machines, but he's never made a pack harness before.

    I post a lot on MTBR and rarely rage about customer service. I can't remember a product purchase experience that was so crappy nor communications that were so flakey. The part that is so weird is they respond initially and then go silent. Even when you I am trying to give them more money to fix a problem with the pack.

    I'm glad some of you got your packs in a reasonable amount of time and they work for you. I wish I was one of the success stories.

    If you are considering buying a Wingnut pack all I can say is only do it if you can afford to buy their pack and then another pack that will work for you. If you only have enough $$ for one pack that has to carry your stuff I'd buy from a more reliable source.

    FWIW - photos are of unaltered pack just out of the shipping box.
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    Commitment is somthing that is easy to say , more difficult to follow through with, and once you get a taste of itÖ itís so easy to get out of hand and lead to overcommitment. Early in 2005, before I started the brand Wingnut, I made a commitment to a small group of adventure racers to give them whatever they needed. Inspired by their commitment, I jumped in to support them and renamed my company and took it in a whole new direction. While my commitment to Wingnut has never faded, I have become OVERCOMMITTED with creation of ecopioneer.com (off grid solar used to support multiday adventure races and bike rallys). While wingnut has always been the base foundation supporting these other commitments, somewhere along the way it all became too much. ECOPIONEER lead to many great experiences, semi finalist in Buckminster fuller challenge, and building off grid renewable energy training centers for NY SUNY colleges, but to wingnut it meant not being clear and present and eventually having to pull in my sails. I never pulled the ship out of the water. I slowed it down and made no new commitments so I could refocus and reduce my other commitments. My goal has been to get back to where it all started, commitment to the wrecking crew and wingnut. Iím writing this because I am almost full circle and back. Iíll venture most of you understand a thing or two about commitment, and how slow and steady, never wavering finishes the race or the objective, you might even have tasted the pain of overcommitment. Good for you, good for us, that which doesnít kill us makes us stronger. A word of caution when you overcommitÖ regroup , refocus, donít let yourself off the hook and keep moving forward. You only really have two choices, lay down where you are and be weak, or stand up where you are and be strong. Own it, even your failures because without failure there is no growth. OK so WTF does that have to do with bags???Ö commitment is what brought you to wingnut, I think your on a journey of pushing yourself beyond expectations, sometimes you gotta go there, and sometimes when youíve gone too farÖ you only fail if you lay down and never get back up. I hope you think of this when that moment hits you on your epic adventure that is about to set sail. Know Iíve got your back.
    PEACE- SCOTT
    - See more at: Wingnut Gear - Whistle Buckle ‚Äď Always there, always handy.
    BTW - the above got posted at Wingnut in May 2015. I've read it a few times, but I am not clear what it actually means for the pack business as the online store is still taking money and orders.
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    I do not know if I am wearing my Wingnut correct, but I carry the weight of the bag much lower than your pictures show you do.
    Loosen the straps on front (maybe also on the back) and let the bag go so far down that all the weight is on your hips and the problem may be gone. If you are used to having the weight of your gear carried on your shoulders and like that, this is not the backpack you need.
    For your information, I am extremely happy with my backpack which is the very first I ave been able to carry fully loaded for 14 hours (when I started) and almost not noticing it. That the backpack is light and at the same time waterproof is a bonus that none of the other backpacks I have had or tried could match. That the weight of the pack is placed lower than most other backpack systems mean you lower your gravity point meaning a lot when on a bike in mountains.
    Try lowering the pack and get the weight on your hips instead of shoulders. It cost nothing. You might then be happy with it. Unless you are a very big guy having bought a bag with a small size harness it should solve the problem.
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    The pack is on my hips. I've tried every option for fit that's available in the pack and harness. I ordered a large harness not the small.
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    The pack is on my hips. I've tried every option for fit that's available in the pack and harness. I ordered a large harness not the small.

    I wear all my packs so the weight is on my hips. I don't have a pack where the design intent is not to have the weight on the hips.
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    my hyper sits really low... and i like it like that.

    sick Mike on the fatbike by Wil Blanchard, on Flickr

    Mike B by Wil Blanchard, on Flickr

    FWIW, about a year and a half ago I had a tear in my hyper... sent it out to wing nut to get repaired and it came back in good time... for reasonable $$.

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    Dunno Vik, before I read the other comments I was thinking it looks like your pack is sitting too high. I used a Hyper 3.0 for a couple years and it sat much lower. A few guys I know down here have the Adventure pack, and they seem to sit lower as well. My pack would sit below the line of the line of the hip belt by a couple inches. Its not totally clear in the pic but yours seems to be sitting level or just above the hip belt. You might be able to loosen the hip belt a little so it can drop down but still carry the weight on your hips. Then loosen the shoulder straps at the back and let the main bag drop. If you can lower it 2-3 inches, the shoulder straps will be spread further apart where they rest on your shoulders, which should let them lay flat.

    Maxwell has an adventure pack as well, he is leaning forward here but the top of the bag is below his armpits


    My pack, it is a little shorter than yours but you can see how far down it sits


    Pic with side view, a bit far away in the shrunken image but you can see the main compartment sits below the hip belt


    I really liked the Wingnut. It carried a huge volume for a compact and light pack. My only complaint was lack of durability. I had a couple straps pull out of the bag and the main zipper pulled apart from the bag. Never bothered to get it repaired as I got an Osprey, also a great bag that is now on year 3.

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    That is what I thought when I saw the picture. Far higher placed on the body than mine is. It is so low that I have to think about keeping the pack over the saddle when moving on the bike.
    When I got mine I was informed that it was now fully made in US and no longer abroad and the quality of mine is great. At least no problems so far.
    I like the Osprey magnetic valve system, far more convenient than anything else I have tried.
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    Unless I run the pack below my waist which makes no sense to me I can't place it any lower. I've got it so that the pack is resting on my hips. I've only got this one set of photos I took to show my friend the issue with the shoulder straps. I have adjusted the pack in every way possible to find a solution where it's comfortable.

    Like sitting on a bike you place your saddle relative to the BB and where that puts your upper body is what it is for that frame/size.

    Similarly it doesn't make sense to me to place the pack non-optimally with respect to my hips so that the top of the pack looks "right" in a photo. Where the top of the bag sits is a function of your torso length. Longer upper body and the pack will "look" lower and vice versa.

    Ultimately moving the pack up or down an inch or two doesn't change the shape of the shoulder straps or how they sit on my body. That is the problem I am having. How the pack fit everywhere else was no issue.

    I can assure you in the many months I've had the pack I've tried all the reasonable options.
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    Vik, my pack straps fit like yours do, no matter how low the pack is positioned. But I notice: when my arms are outstretched as though riding, the the strap contacts my traps along the full width of the strap. I would wager this architecture is intentional, which makes sense if it's a riding pack (which also might make it less than great for hiking). I hadn't noticed until seeing your post, and I didn't feel any undue pressure in the strap/traps area. FWIW/YMMV!

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    I sent in my pack 6 years ago because the zipper failed. I used to call in every few months to see if it was ready. I stopped calling in about 3 years ago. It was always "next up" or sitting on the bench waiting to go. It was a fantastic pack (so good that I got my shop to carry them) but I can't recommend them to anyone based on the service.
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