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    suggested gearing for bikepacking, expedition

    I am building a bike for the first time. A surly OGRE. It will be used for everything for commuting on pavement to dirt tracks, to pulling a trailer in winter on a snowmobile trail.
    I think i want chainrings:SHimano Deore, low gear 22
    rear cog 11-34 Shimano
    rear deraileur is a shimano long cage
    Any suggestions for a front deraileur?
    The bike is ordered. I have to get my head around what I am supposed to buy next! ANy suggestions will be welcome. Im reading books, and websites.

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    I have been very happy with the performance of Shimano XT front derailers. I also find traditional MTB 3x gearing to be adequate for most any situation.

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    Depends on where you're riding I suppose but I've never had a gear that was too low, lol. Around here 20%+ grades are pretty common.

    I'm currently running a 22/36 granny lashup on a 26" bike and I LOVE it.
    "...Some local fiend had built it with his own three hands..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
    I have been very happy with the performance of Shimano XT front derailers. I also find traditional MTB 3x gearing to be adequate for most any situation.
    OK, Ill look at the XT front. Im new at this and mostly trying to understand compatibility. Yes, I plan on a 3X9 set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verslowrdr View Post
    Depends on where you're riding I suppose but I've never had a gear that was too low, lol. Around here 20%+ grades are pretty common.

    I'm currently running a 22/36 granny lashup on a 26" bike and I LOVE it.
    Yea, I dont have a granny on my bike now, and planning on a 22 on the front crank. I never use my highest gear. I will be pulling a trailer (BOB) sometimes with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verslowrdr View Post
    Depends on where you're riding I suppose but I've never had a gear that was too low, lol. Around here 20%+ grades are pretty common.

    I'm currently running a 22/36 granny lashup on a 26" bike and I LOVE it.
    22/36 will get you up almost anything. If not, get off and walk it.

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    My secret weapon on the colorado trail race was 20/36. Was great to be able to ride uphill at 12,500 ft with a loaded bike. Not fast but better than HAB. So yeah, it depends on the grade and load you are carrying. And XT all around.
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    +1 for 22/36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonns View Post
    My secret weapon on the colorado trail race was 20/36. Was great to be able to ride uphill at 12,500 ft with a loaded bike. Not fast but better than HAB. So yeah, it depends on the grade and load you are carrying. And XT all around.
    Cool, I just got a replacement 20T to add to the chainring, so im stoked to try that combo out.

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    You need to read the Ogre threads in the Surly part of the forum.
    You need a specific front pull (top or bottom) or your tire will rub on the derailleur from memory.
    I have an Ogre but use an IGH with it.
    If I was using a rear derailleur setup, I'd keep in mind my 29 inch wheels and utilise a cassette with a 36T sprocket to get a good low gear.
    I'd be leaning toward a 20T on the front too as the Ogre isn't a light weight.
    Just my opinion - others will vary

    Whoops, just spotted that you had gotten a 20T already.
    I think a wise choice.

    Good luck and enjoy your Ogre

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifraf View Post
    You need to read the Ogre threads in the Surly part of the forum.
    You need a specific front pull (top or bottom) or your tire will rub on the derailleur from memory.
    I have an Ogre but use an IGH with it.
    If I was using a rear derailleur setup, I'd keep in mind my 29 inch wheels and utilise a cassette with a 36T sprocket to get a good low gear.
    I'd be leaning toward a 20T on the front too as the Ogre isn't a light weight.
    Just my opinion - others will vary

    Whoops, just spotted that you had gotten a 20T already.
    I think a wise choice.

    Good luck and enjoy your Ogre
    Yea, I didnt realize the 36T was available-shimano 9 speed 36T and I just clicked the 'ol ebay button on one. I need to fiddle around more and get a different front deraileur. And learn how to spell it. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaskadude View Post
    Yea, I didnt realize the 36T was available-shimano 9 speed 36T and I just clicked the 'ol ebay button on one. I need to fiddle around more and get a different front deraileur. And learn how to spell it. Thanks
    If you search for "derailer" the first thing that comes up is a rant by Sheldon Browne about how the derailer should be spelled in English. But that has not caught on yet so derailleur is prevalent. I have been doing my part by always using derailer.

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