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    Quote Originally Posted by eugenemtbing View Post
    This seems like a nice alcohol stove design:

    How To Turn A Beer Can Into The Only Camping Stove You'll Ever Need on Vimeo

    Haven't tried it yet, but will.
    That lit fast and put out a lot of flame! I might have to try that design. Any idea why he drilled the one little hole between the flame outlets and the rim of the can?

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    Must be a vent for air intake?

    I bought and drank a large lemonaid today, in preparation for my stove!

    Got a bottle of ethyl alcohol at the drug store for $2, but wonder if I should have gotten isopropyl/rubbing alcohol.

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    hmm, some kind of vent is prolly right. ah, i think it may be to prevent liquid fuel from being forced out of the burner jets.

    i use HEET from automotive section of bigboxmart. it is methanol. ethanol supposedly burns ok, but isopropyl is supposedly sooty.

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    Just made one. I like it better than the one I made with the jet holes. I like that I can put my pot directly on the can. I used Denatured Alcohol and boiled 2 cups of water in under 6 minutes.

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    Stoves gone wild?... how about wild stoves that are historically traditional ... like an open fire.




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    Campfires are not allowed in my area.

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    msr pocket rocket. just remember something for a wind screen.

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    Stoves gone wild

    For those who want to live and breathe stove options or, like Vik, just consider themselves stove addicts:

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    I made a stove as outlined in that video. Started out with 70% ethyl alcohol. Could not keep it burning with the pot directly on the stove. It would burn OK when I spaced the pot above the stove with 1/8th inch brazing rod laid across the face of the stove, but this was unstable and finicky. The flame was blue and clean.

    I then tried HEET (methyl alcohol) and 91% isopropyl alcohol. Both burned well with the pot directly on the stove. It took 8 minutes to boil two cups of cold water with HEET, and 11 minutes with isopropyl alcohol in 60 degree outdoor air temp with very little wind. The HEET burned blue and clean, and the isopropyl burned orange and sooty.

    The clear winner is HEET, but it is clearly poisonous/toxic. I would rather use isopropyl or ethyl alcohol, which are actually sold as a skin antiseptic. Not sure if that is feasible though.

    In the end, I probably screwed up this stove by enlarging the flumes and adding pin holes, etc., so a new one is in order. It is certainly small and light. The flame is not vigorous, however, which makes me wonder if it would be a PITA to use in the wet, windy, stormy conditions many of us bikepack in.

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    Anybody have any good ideas for improvised windscreens? I'm abroad right now and forgot the windscreen that came with my MSR Whisperlite, although I'm using a Pocket Rocket right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Wassa View Post
    Stoves gone wild?... how about wild stoves that are historically traditional ... like an open fire.Warren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Anybody have any good ideas for improvised windscreens? I'm abroad right now and forgot the windscreen that came with my MSR Whisperlite, although I'm using a Pocket Rocket right now.
    I use a sheet of aluminum foil folded over a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Anybody have any good ideas for improvised windscreens? I'm abroad right now and forgot the windscreen that came with my MSR Whisperlite, although I'm using a Pocket Rocket right now.
    I use aluminum roof flashing, but that may not be easy to get. if you cut the top and bottom off of an aluminum can, you will end up with a decent little sheet of aluminum to experiment with.

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    Another option is to make a windscreen from the bottom of an alu baking tray - the disposable type. They are thicker than alu foil and can stand up to a fair amount of abuse.


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    I also use aluminum foil. The restaurant grade is best (snagged from leftovers), but doubling over the consumer grade works fine as well. I make it so the ends overlap so you can fold them together snugly. I like the disposable baking tray idea as well. The whisperlite screen isn't much more than that to begin with.

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    Another vote for the disposable alu pans. But in a pinch the foil is fine. It will burn more easily though when close to the stove flame.

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    I had an old beat up MSR stove windscreen I cannibalized to make a smaller screen for my beer can stove.



    It's got a nice blend of stiffness and flexibility.

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    If you want to make a conical windscreen / pot stand, in post 34 I provided a link to zenstoves.net on how to make the template using your stove/pot dimensions.

    Once I got the cone (frustrum) dimensions, I laid out some paper on the kitchen island, taped it down, and used a pencil tied to a string of appropriate lengths to draw the arcs. A little additional friggin'ometry calculated where to draw the side boundaries for the desired radii. That was the hardest part of the effort (must remember to include overlap for the interlock, if any).

    After a test fit of the paper template over the stove/pot, I placed it over the bottom of a disposable lasagna pan, traced the outline with a sharpie, then cut with heavy-duty scissors. I punched vent holes every 3/4" or so with a standard paper hole-punch and made a couple of cuts for an integrated interlock.

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    Not a choice for "minimalist's", but for those who need (want) to simmer, cook w/ a pan or just want a simple, strong, versitile stove w/ a wide flame and don't mind a few extra ounces, I like the good 'ol Primus Classic Trail (formaly the "Yellowstone"). More often than not, it's "The one that gets used"...

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    You guys got me all fired up to make one of those stoves as well. I like it! Simpler in operation than the penny stove I normally use and almost instantaneous formation of the jets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TigWorld View Post
    You guys got me all fired up to make one of those stoves as well. I like it! Simpler in operation than the penny stove I normally use and almost instantaneous formation of the jets.

    Just found a vid on how to make this stove, figured id share.
    <iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/64726512" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/64726512">How To Turn A Beer Can Into The Only Camping Stove You'll Ever Need</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/tomallen">Tom Allen</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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    My preferred method.


    Propane/bhutan gas:

    MSR Whisperlite og Dragonfly.





    White Gas, diesel, Jet A1, etc; Primus Omnifuel.


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    Don't know if this has been posted yet, but I might try this, as I am a coffee addict. HEET storage elsewhere though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szOgg54f8k&sns=em

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    instant coffee? why doesn't he just punch a baby? just go with turkish coffee... cool setup.

    with the heet, if you spill it in the can it evaporates completely, BUT it leaves behind a very bitter residue. i'd definitely want to store it elsewhere too.

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    A friend of mine carries it in a metal fuel bottle on the back of his seatpost. Nice out-of-the-way spot if you're not using a seat bag.

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    yeah I understand twigs/sticks not always available for burning, which is why I also have the bbq foldable grill and some sterno cans, and some charcoal bricks...along with the stainless steel canteen cups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGadd View Post
    Stove? What's that?
    Says the guy who fired up Apple's stove to make soup.
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    Has anyone tried the Soto Muka? I have one, though limited experience with it...I've set it up in the yard a few times and so far am very impressed with its function as compared to my Whisperlite Intl. (my previous Gold Standard). A friend used one on a 2,000 mi Alaskan winter odyssey (Anchorage Man Finishes Iron Dog Trail...On A Bike - KTUU.com) and said he really liked his, but I guess I'm curious if anyone else has any experiences...
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    I sometimes take some cooking gear in my backpack on snowy winter rides. I try to make a small adventure out of it. Even when I'm close to home.

    I love this stove and had it for around 4 years.

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    Anybody use one of these?
    Emberlit

    I have one that I have not used yet. I am just planning my first trip and was going to carry it (after some testing) with the Vargo ti as a backup and some esbit tabs as just in case. Mine is the stainless version so not light, but I live in an arid climate so fuel should not be an issue. If it happens to be wet I think I can use an esbit cube to start wet twigs in it while still cooking.

    Those beer can stoves are great. I use a similar type that I made from a Venom can (when they used to make them thicker) to start my home fireplace last year. We ordered a cord of wood that turned out to be pretty green still.

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    I've used a regular Esbit stove with a foil windscreen, they work ok...that Emberlit looks pretty slick. I carry my esbit as a back-up to my Muka on winter fatpacking overnights and in my survival kit while doing non-biking stuff in the woods here in Alaska.
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    This thread is great, I have not done any bikepacking (just backpacking and car camping) but am dreaming up some trips now thanks to this forum.

    I might have missed it but didn't see any reference to the "Fancy Feast" alcohol stove in this discussion.

    Fancy Feast Cat Food Can Backpacking Stove - YouTube

    I made a couple of these last summer and played around with them on a backpacking trip. Seemed to work quite well with 95% Ethanol. They are very easy to make compared to some other DIY alcohol stoves. Has anyone else here tried one?

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    I've tried a few cooking setups. This is my current favourite for lightweight bike tours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I provided a link to my review of the vargo stove in my post above. It's was underwhelming to use.
    Dang, I just ordered the Vargo Triad. I didn't need it, but I was hypnotized by the titanium. Oh well, it can sit and look cool on the shelf if it doesn't work for me.

    I also just got a MSR Pocket Rocket for Christmas. It's cool and all, but the fuel tank seems bulky. I think I still prefer my soda can stove, light simple, and effective.

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    I'm more in the "stove, what's that" category, but I'm mainly going to be bikepacking with my 8 year old son, and I think he would enjoy the camp scene a lot more if there was cooking involved. So thanks to everybody that has posted their take on stoves.

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    Well, I had good luck with my Vargo Triad. Was a little worried, but I got it to bloom and boiled 2 cups of ice water in about 8 minutes. Total burn time was almost 18 minutes, so I am happy.

    One was to speed up blooming is to put a little priming pan under the stove to heat the stove and fuel in it before actually lighting the stove.
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    I've been working on this cook kit lately...
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    Fize can stove. It roars and does not need a separate stand. Can be refilled with squirt bottle when burning.

    The one/two person setup shown below. This is my sons creation, but I use it when I can.






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    Couldn't get all the combustion chamber to shoot out flame. Was using 99% alcohol(not sure how truthful was the pharmacy re: content) the flame was yellowish as pictured and left black marks on the cooking pot.

    Would adding a bit of water to he fuel help with the burning? The 99% alcohol I was told would absorb moisture in the air is that why it burns yellow and left black charcoal like marks on the pot? It was not so clean afterwards.


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    Hard to tell what you got going on there. Post a picture of the stove.

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    Couldn't get all the combustion chamber to shoot out flame. Was using 99% alcohol(not sure how truthful was the pharmacy re: content) the flame was yellowish as pictured and left black marks on the cooking pot.

    Would adding a bit of water to he fuel help with the burning? The 99% alcohol I was told would absorb moisture in the air is that why it burns yellow and left black charcoal like marks on the pot? It was not so clean afterwards.


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    IPA burns very dirty, even 90% IPA. I won't pretend to know why but denatured alcohol or HEET in the yellow bottle burns very clean. I ruined my first two homemade stoves using IPA.

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    I looks like you don't have jetting vents and you tried to make a double walled stove. Did you follow any instructions or is that a freestyle? I would suggest making one of these: How To Turn A Beer Can Into The Only Camping Stove You'll Ever Need on Vimeo. By far the easiest stove I've made and works great. I always use denatured alcohol. It burns clean.

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    I bought the Optimus Crux HE Weekender set for hunting/camping and it works great. Don't see any reason why I would not include it on longer bike trips once I start riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    IPA burns very dirty, even 90% IPA. I won't pretend to know why but denatured alcohol or HEET in the yellow bottle burns very clean. I ruined my first two homemade stoves using IPA.
    Yeah, Isopropyl alcohol sucks as stove fuel. Denatured alcohol or HEET are what you want for sure. When I hiked the AT back in 2000, it wasn't always easy to find denatured alchohol (BTW, denatured alcohol is essentially ethanol with poison in it so you don't drink it) so I had to use isopropyl a few times, and it was garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornhere View Post
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    Emberlit

    I have one that I have not used yet. I am just planning my first trip and was going to carry it (after some testing) with the Vargo ti as a backup and some esbit tabs as just in case. Mine is the stainless version so not light, but I live in an arid climate so fuel should not be an issue. If it happens to be wet I think I can use an esbit cube to start wet twigs in it while still cooking.

    Those beer can stoves are great. I use a similar type that I made from a Venom can (when they used to make them thicker) to start my home fireplace last year. We ordered a cord of wood that turned out to be pretty green still.
    My wife got me an emberlit SS for Christmas. I LOVE this stove. I've used it on a couple winter hikes and overnighters, but no extended trips yet. It works great with my beercan alcy stove as well.

    Here's a pic of me playing with it for the first time, in a snow hut I built in my backyard.

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    I just finished a good multi week adventure with a break in the middle for resupply -- used a trangia with a few water bottles of everclear. I like the trangia because it's pretty easy to put the cap on and save fuel vs penny cans where it was possible to save the fuel but not convenient enough for me to do it every time. Like using the everclear because it's not poisonous, it doesn't stink if it gets on other stuff, and it's a great internal and external antiseptic. You can even cut water with it to lower the freezing point.
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    I'm going to have to think about whether I can make this work using the beer can stove while camping

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    Tried the popcorn last night. Actually worked pretty well, minus the excessive smoke from the oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMcFeely View Post
    I just finished a good multi week adventure with a break in the middle for resupply -- used a trangia with a few water bottles of everclear. I like the trangia because it's pretty easy to put the cap on and save fuel vs penny cans where it was possible to save the fuel but not convenient enough for me to do it every time. Like using the everclear because it's not poisonous, it doesn't stink if it gets on other stuff, and it's a great internal and external antiseptic. You can even cut water with it to lower the freezing point.
    And of course, you can drink it too if you are feeling particularly hardy

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