^That looks like a great simple pyramid. My Mega Light pyramid tent weighs in at 1.5 lbs. without the pole. I feel a little over sheltered for most conditions here in the SW, but not much weight penalty. Normally I don't pitch it, but just have it laying next to me to pull over for a typical 5 minute shower. The ability to pitch it high can be very useful.
If clear skies are expected, I sometimes just take the fly from my old 3 man Orion tent to pull over me for a freak thundershower, gust of wind, the odd pesky bug.
Used our DASH 2 for a San Juan River trip in late May; worked great. We were warm and comfortable in temps down to the 40s at night -- small but not confining.
Originally Posted by She&I
After a few trips with the Nemo Apollo I can post a few thoughts:
- Take the pole out of the equation and this is an impressively light, packable shelter option. The stock, alloy pole weighs a 1/2lb. Do yourself a favor and order a 52" carbon pole from Z-Packs which weighs barely anything and is plenty stiff enough to serve for a tipi-style central pole like this.
- It's billed as a 3-person shelter, but it would take a pretty dire situation before I would ever want to cram 3 people into the Nemo. I wouldn't consider it a 3-person shelter, but it is a great option for 1-2 people.
- With the carbon pole and 6 ti stakes, the Apollo doesn't weigh much more than my OR Helium bivy, but offers a far more shelter if you really have to hunker in some weather. For a few extra ounces, I'd definitely choose the Apollo in most cases.
You all should try the Tarptent Rainbow. Less than two pounds. Sets up in about two minutes without even trying. Huge interior space for one-person tent. You can sit up and change in it.
It has a full bathtub floor, too.
I had the Protrail which was nice but getting in and out was difficult and, while it wasn't as small as a bivy, interior space was limited.
I picked up the Apollo as well. Had it along for a 3 day trip a couple weeks ago and loved it. Nighttime lows were in the 20 degree F range, with some snow, some freezing rain, and mild winds. Stayed warm and dry and even kept the bike out of the elements. It's my first "tepee-style" tent. I really like it so far.
Originally Posted by Smithhammer
I have three shelters: a Golite Hut 2, a Guide Gear 12x12 tarp and an older Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight 2p
The Golite is very light and accommodates a cozy 2. You can support it from trees or use a pole. I have taken to bringing some old poles from another former tent that fit nicely in my frame bag. The issue I have had is condensation. Especially with 2. The trick is to not stake the sides all the way to the ground to get some ventilation. And I usually keep the door open. Not ideal in wet weather but I like the design and it is cuben fiber so super light and strong.
The Guide Gear tarp is awesome. It is impregnated nylon so not as light as cuben. It was around $50 I think and comfortably covers 2. I did need to seal the seams but I have survived snow, rain and sleet without issue. I like the range of setup options. They sew the longest seam on the diagonal so I just secure the opposite corners and then finish out however I want based on conditions. I have never had condensation issues.
Last year I picked up a great condition Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight 2 for $75. This is the older model. Weighs 3lbs which is perfect if sharing - split the weight between you at a respectable 1.5lbs. For colder weather, it can't be beat. Plus you get a little vestibule for gear. I really love this tent for shoulder month camping. It is pretty tight for two bigger guys, but serviceable.
The Guide Gear tarp is the least sexy but most tried and true of the bunch when you factor weight and cost. I use a tyvek groundcloth for this and the Golite. It is cheap and tough but also very slippery. I painted it with diluted silicone to give it some stick, but this was only moderately successful. Thinking of sewing some straps to secure to my sleeping pad.
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