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    Just picked this up at a local gander mountain that was remodeling and getting rid of all there stock....nothing fancy but for $60 I can't complain. Stats say it weights in at 3lbs 5oz which i can deal with as i'm looking to take my first weekend bikepacking trip come spring....now to make some frame bags before then!



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    Anybody who takes a contrail or similar one-pole design, do you just use a tent pole or where do you keep your trekking pole when riding?

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    Curious if there are any trekking poles that would fit on the chainstays when collapsed.

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    I have the Contrail and got the 2 oz (collapsible) tent pole that is sold separately. I strap the collapsible tent pole to my top tube. I have a Revelate gas tank and I slide the pole along the top tube and under the velcro that secures the gast tank to the top tube. I then slide a short length of orange cord thru the end of the pole (when you collapse the pole, there is a short length of stretchy cord exposed between sections and I slide the orange cord thru that) and then tie the orange cord around the stem. This way the gas tank velcro secures the pole to the bike along the tob tube and the orange cord keeps the pole from sliding out. I have never had any problem with the pole getting in the way or with losing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTC Rider View Post
    I have the Contrail and got the 2 oz (collapsible) tent pole that is sold separately. I strap the collapsible tent pole to my top tube. I have a Revelate gas tank and I slide the pole along the top tube and under the velcro that secures the gast tank to the top tube. I then slide a short length of orange cord thru the end of the pole (when you collapse the pole, there is a short length of stretchy cord exposed between sections and I slide the orange cord thru that) and then tie the orange cord around the stem. This way the gas tank velcro secures the pole to the bike along the tob tube and the orange cord keeps the pole from sliding out. I have never had any problem with the pole getting in the way or with losing it.
    i do similar, but I just tuck the end into the revelate gas tank velcro, and put a strap around the other end.

    i made my own pole though, built it up out of slightly larger diameter tubing. only slightly more weight, but better in the wind, or when cinching down in the weather.

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    A dry bag such as a Sea to Summit one should solve the problem if the sleeping bag is packed in the bag.

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    Does anyone have any experience with the Black Diamond Vista tent? Looking at the specifications, it doesn't "seem" that bad? Was looking at the BD Fitzroy tent, but it's 1 lbs heavier than the Vista tent.

    DB Vista Specifications:

    Series : Doublelight Series
    Season : 3
    Capacity : 3
    Doors : 2
    Average Packed Weight : 2.94 kg, 6 lb 8 oz
    Minimum Weight : 2.70 kg, 5 lb 15 oz
    Dimensions : 244 x 218 x 168 x 117 cm, 96 x 86 x 66 x 46 in
    Area : 4.7 m², 50.7 sq ft
    Vestibule Area : 0.8 + 0.8 m², 9 + 9 sq ft
    Packed Size : 20 x 48 cm, 8 x 19 in

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    Update on TT Moment strut mod...

    I just modified my Moment struts in order to make them easier to install. I mentioned the plan last fall (post #76 of this thread if you want the backstory), but just now got around to trying it. I haven`t field tested this yet, and probably won`t get to that until late April, but it works just fine in my living room ( ) and I don`t expect any complications elsewhere.

    First off, the struts do seem to be arrow shafting. I brought one down to an archery shop and bought four plastic nochs to fit it for a little under a buck per. They just push into the end of the shaft, no glue needed (see first pic).

    I cut the forked end off each noch and turned the outside down to slightly smaller than the OD of the shafts, then rounded them all into a nice bullet shape (second pic). Since the nochs add about 7/16 to the length of each strut, I had to chop a half inch from one end with a cut off wheel in a Dremel. The result is that they are much easier to push in. I had been a little bit concerned that when removing them the bullets might pull out and I`d have a hell of a time working them all the way back out of the long pocket, but that didn`t turn out to be an issue. They fit tightly, and the webbing doesn`t really try all that hard to hang on to them.

    I turned the nochs on a lathe (w/ 6mm collet), since I happen to have one available. With a little more time and patience invested, I`m sure you could pull it off with a file or a sharp knife. Or if you REALLY aren`t in a hurry, or dread slicing your finger while trying to whittle the tiny boogers down with a razor blade, I`m willing to turn them down for anybody who wants a set in exchange for just the cost of parts and the postage, which would probably total about $6.
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    My newest, and now my favorite, shelter. Hennessy explorer deluxe.
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    There is the a free standing tent for sale in the classifieds. Sub 2lbs. By Mandatory Gear. Paid add.
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    My favorite setup is the Grand Trunk Nano-7 Hammock with a small tarp comes in under 1 1/2lbs with hanging hardware. i made a bug net (Shark cage) for bug season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr5 View Post
    My favorite setup is the Grand Trunk Nano-7 Hammock with a small tarp comes in under 1 1/2lbs with hanging hardware. i made a bug net (Shark cage) for bug season.

    Do you have a design for this bugnet? I'm recently getting into the hammock camping and am financially confined to DIY. I did buy a bias camper hammock. Also got a camo poly tarp I use. Wish I could afford lightweight but I have an ss29er build I'm right in the middle of. Ill be making an INsultext underquilt I found instructions for at backyard daydreamer. Unfortunately they're out of noseeum mesh but I'm sure there are other vendors. Would like to get a bugnet going.


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    Shelter Review: Black Diamond Mesa Tent + Ground Cloth

    Technical Specs:
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    Tent: Black Diamond Mesa Tent
    Series : Doublelight Series
    Season : 3
    Capacity : 2
    Doors : 2
    Average Packed Weight : 2.32 kg, 5 lb 2 oz
    Minimum Weight : 2.08 kg, 4 lb 9 oz
    Dimensions : 234 x 147 x 112 x 112 cm, 92 x 58 x 44 x 44 in
    Area : 3.0 m², 32.5 sq ft
    Vestibule Area : 0.8 + 0.8 m², 9 + 9 sq ft
    Packed Size : 20 x 48 cm, 8 x 19 in
    Cost: $329.95

    Ground Cloth: Black Diamond Mesa Tent Ground Cloth
    Average Ground Cloth Weight : 275 g, 10 oz
    Cost: $44.95
    The first thing I noticed about the tent, was that it packed up fairly small. The packed size, length-wise, is about the same length as my handle-bars.. so if I attached it to them, it wouldn't be a problem. The next thing is the speed of the set up. It is insanely easy. Steps to set up:

    - Put down the ground cloth (the sides have "color-coded" straps, 2x orange, 2x black). Set down the tent, with the sides matching, orange to orange, black to black. All of the straps have a cone shaped gromet hole in the middle, and a plastic quick-release buckle. Once the tent is down, then comes out the poles. These are all attached by a vinyl / nylon stretch cord, and in the middle is a star-shaped center peice, this has a bolt-looking thing that goes towards the tent.

    - Once the poles are layed down, the ends go through the gromets, and once bowed out, they self-lock. The center of the tent has a U bolt thing that attaches to the center peice of the poles. Each side of the tent has 2 clamps that snap onto the poles. This gives the tent its form.

    - Then the tarp goes over the tent (not necessary, but protects against wind / rain). The corners of the tarp has quick releases that attach to the ground cloth. The corners and sides of the tarp are then staked down

    So, the pro's:

    - Fairly light.. its not the lightest tent, but it isn't heavy by any means
    - Packs small.. again, its not exactly a hammock, but there are plenty of ways to mount to the bike
    - Protects against the elements
    - Easy to set up, especially after a long day's ride
    - Multiple set-ups (ground cloth + tarp, tarp only, ground cloth + tent, ground cloth, tent, tarp, ground cloth only)
    - It's designed for 3-season, mountain terrain.. so it can hold up in high winds (or should, at least.. I can't test this)
    - Plenty of room to store your gear if your solo

    And the con's:
    - A bit pricey
    - The tent needs to have the ground cloth, the bottom has 0 protection against the terrain
    - The tarp vestibules could be a bit bigger / longer imo.
    - The tarp is bright-ass orange. Not condusive to stealth-camping.

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    don't know if this has been mentioned previously in the thread, but i've gotta put the big agnes fly creek ul 2 out there as an awesome, two wall, free standing tent. it weighs less than three pounds with foot print and can be set up as a tarp shelter with said footprint if you want to go super minimal. i used it on a bike camping trip last week and it was perfect. i was able to strap the tent, sleeping bag, and sleeping pad to my handlebars with a revelate designs harness and a sea to summit dry compression sack, perfect set up, espeically with drop bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htdoerge View Post
    don't know if this has been mentioned previously in the thread, but i've gotta put the big agnes fly creek ul 2 out there as an awesome, two wall, free standing tent. it weighs less than three pounds with foot print and can be set up as a tarp shelter with said footprint if you want to go super minimal. i used it on a bike camping trip last week and it was perfect. i was able to strap the tent, sleeping bag, and sleeping pad to my handlebars with a revelate designs harness and a sea to summit dry compression sack, perfect set up, espeically with drop bars.
    Yes sir, agreed. Great tent for bikepacking.

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    So, I have been using a tarp mainly when bikepacking. Nothing fancy, just a utility tarp from a home improvement store. I like it because I can set it up in so many different ways and I appreciate the simplicity.

    But, the thing is still pretty bulky and on the heavy side and so I have been looking at other tarp material options. I find the special camping tarps like those made of silnylon are out of my price range and so have been contemplating cheaper choices.

    Does anyone here have experience with using Tyvek as a camping tarp? I know its a common groundcloth and plenty of folks on ebay or in other camping forums have talked about its use as a sleeping tarp or even DIY bivy, but I have not really heard much first hand experience with it out in the field.

    I have my eye on a 10'X10' with grommet attachments but before I pull the trigger was hoping to hear some feedback. I know its very noisy but that if you run it through the gentle cycle and drip dry, it becomes softer and more tolerable.

    What else? How small does it really pack and how much lighter is it than a utility tarp? Is it really waterproof in a rainstorm? Does it last? Any feedback is appreciated!

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    My main solo bikepacking shelter is a Big Agnes Fly Creek UL1.

    https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/De...nt/FlyCreekUL1

    Actual weight with pegs is 2.3lbs.



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    re: tyvek, i heard that once you wash it, it may leak.

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    One for the Hillberg users ... you might want to pack a spare tooth brush or three and change that morning camp routine ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahday View Post
    So, I have been using a tarp mainly when bikepacking. Nothing fancy, just a utility tarp from a home improvement store. I like it because I can set it up in so many different ways and I appreciate the simplicity.

    But, the thing is still pretty bulky and on the heavy side and so I have been looking at other tarp material options. I find the special camping tarps like those made of silnylon are out of my price range and so have been contemplating cheaper choices.

    Does anyone here have experience with using Tyvek as a camping tarp? I know its a common groundcloth and plenty of folks on ebay or in other camping forums have talked about its use as a sleeping tarp or even DIY bivy, but I have not really heard much first hand experience with it out in the field.

    I have my eye on a 10'X10' with grommet attachments but before I pull the trigger was hoping to hear some feedback. I know its very noisy but that if you run it through the gentle cycle and drip dry, it becomes softer and more tolerable.

    What else? How small does it really pack and how much lighter is it than a utility tarp? Is it really waterproof in a rainstorm? Does it last? Any feedback is appreciated!
    Tyvek is neat stuff. But...

    It isn't all that cheap. It is heavy. It is noisy. It does not last long. It makes a lousy ground sheet.

    If you really want to try it, go ahead. Tie little rocks in the corners to make pull-outs. Write on it with sharpie markers to dress it up. Rub red clay into it to give it some character. I have even painted it with latex paint to make it more colorful and durable.

    Let us know how it works for you.
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    Re: Tarps

    Check out this thread in backpackinglight.com about using polycro a.k.a. patio door insulation film. Rain-tested in the PNW.

    Gossamer Gear sells polycro ground cloth as either a single 6'x8' sheet or a pair of 3.3'x8' sheets for $9-10. The single sheet may be big enough for a tarp.

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    After much hemming an hawing, I have decided to try out a Guide Guard tarp instead of the Tyvek. With shipping, I found one for $28 which was comparable to the Tyvek I was looking at through an e-bay vendor (for a 10' X 10' piece = $26 plus shipping). Here is the link to Bargain Outfitters which seems to have the best price on this. I got the 8.5' X 8.5' model. Plenty of tie-out points, including along the ridgeline for a variety of configurations. It gets good reviews from the ultralight backpacking folks for durability, too. Weighs in at 22oz.

    Also planning to pick up some polycryo this weekend for a ground tarp. If I have any extra I may experiment with it for tarp applications. That was all pretty intriguing information though I didn't see a lot of field-tested reviews.

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    Found these gortex bivy's for $30 a piece at an army surplus.
    Worked great on a recent two night bikepacking trip. Compress
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsheldon View Post
    Found these gortex bivy's for $30 a piece at an army surplus.
    Worked great on a recent two night bikepacking trip. Compress
    nicely & 2lbs. Camo...can you see them?
    yup I see them; and these are nice I plan on getting an Army Modular Sleep System that includes the bivy; and then see if I can score another army Poncho; so I can replace the torn one I have, and use it as a tarp/shelter.

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    Frosty Fall Fat Bikepacking by mbeganyi, on Flickr

    a really sweet marmot bivy, a tarptent moment, and a tarptent contrail.
    (4th rider slept in a leaky simple bivy under the picnic table...)


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    jay's sweet bivy2 by mbeganyi, on Flickr

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    I really dig my bivy camoflauge tent.
    1-Person Woodland Camo Bivy Shelter Tent $35.88

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    I've used a Catoma Raider 64569F Ultralight. 1.1 Lb with rain fly, no extra poles required. Fits great on the handlebars. Not much larger than me, but it's cheap and high quality ($160)

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    Saw the 2-person, almost freestanding Dash 2 at REI (it needs to be staked out in the back). I liked it because it weighs 2lbs 7oz, has a door on each side, so each person gets a door and a tiny vestibule and a fair amount of headroom. Spendy, though, at $349.

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    I had a small North Face mesh tent that I used for many, many years. It kept me warm and dry (or cool and dry, depending), but twice in southeastern Utah, thunderstorms blew in and the intense winds ahead of the storms blew a rather amazing amount of fine sand/grit right through the mesh and into my hair and sleeping bag, even though the fly was buttoned down tight. So when using a mesh tent, this is one of the few drawbacks.
    The whole hammock thing looks intriguing, but I sleep on my side and can't imagine how that would work in a hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    I liked it because it weighs 2lbs 7oz
    That is the claimed weight based on tent, fly and poles, not necessarily the actual weight on the bike or trail. That is a claimed 1.33 kg which is still it is not a bad weight, assuming it is realistic, for what is claimed to be a two person tent. I be inclined think of this as more of as a nice lightweight spacey one person tent rather than a two, but I guess it comes down to who you are sharing with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aushiker View Post
    That is the claimed weight based on tent, fly and poles, not necessarily the actual weight on the bike or trail. That is a claimed 1.33 kg which is still it is not a bad weight, assuming it is realistic, for what is claimed to be a two person tent. I be inclined think of this as more of as a nice lightweight spacey one person tent rather than a two, but I guess it comes down to who you are sharing with Andrew
    DH and I can make it work! Agree that with stakes and even a footprint, weight would likely be closer to 3lbs. Even at 3lbs it seems a reasonable weight for two; a bit heavy for one.
    And yes, it would be snug, but having a door for each person makes it infinitely more workable, plus there is a fair amount of head room.
    Over the many, many years I've been tent camping, once the tent is set up and I crawl inside and zip up the door, I'm home. I don't think I could get comfortable with a tarp or bivy.
    Other long standing preference: free-standing tent that pitches tight; I hate the sound of a rain fly going flappeta-flappeta-flappeta all night in the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    The whole hammock thing looks intriguing, but I sleep on my side and can't imagine how that would work in a hammock.
    i am a stomach sleeper and use a hammock. there's no way i can sleep on my belly but i sure can sleep on my side in one. most good hammocks are made to sleep diagonally to accommodate the side sleeper. traditional banana style often feels good too.

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    We just spent 20 nights in our Dash 2. Fantastic design. So little to complain about, I won't bother. Big thumbs up to REI.

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    I mostly cowboy camp under the stars or use a Zpacks 8x10 cuben fiber flat tarp. Packs down to about the size of a softball and weighs ~6oz. Plenty of coverage and lots of pitching options. I bring along some extra lengths of thin cord so I can tie off to surrounding trees, my bike, or whatever is available. Don't have to carry any poles.

    If I'm expecting some real weather or plan to share a shelter with others, then I have an MLD Duomid, an MLD Trailstar and a Golite SL3 to choose from. All are a bit heavier/bulkier than the flat tarp, but all are still well under 2 lbs and offer excellent wind/snow/rain protection. I have a carbon fiber collapsible pole that works with these shelters and weighs just a few ounces.

    I can pair any of the (above) shelters with either a bug bivy (silnylon bottom, bug netting top) or a normal bivy (silnylon bottom, pertex top) for added protection. Both bivies weigh about another 4-5 oz.

    Most of the time though, I just use a piece of polycro or a half of an SOL Emergency Blanket as a groundcloth. Weighs an ounce or two, only costs a couple of bucks and is reasonably durable. The emergency blanket can (obviously) double as a signal device and/or blanket for emergencies...

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    Too many mosquitos, red ants and a gazillion other types of flying, crawling and biting things where I am for just a tarp. It is also way too hot to use an an air matress in a bivvy or tent on the ground. At a little over 1Kg for all, my hennesey deep jungle hammock is the best option. I had a sub 500g lightweight hammock but the critters could bite my ass through it. Insect bites directly under a sit bone and 6 hours in the saddle makes for an uncomfortable day; something for one of those celebrity torture TV shows I reckon

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    Hola!

    I´m using Big Agnes´Fly Creek UL2. This tent isn´t cheap but in my opinion it has the best space/weight ratio and it´s where I´ll spend most of my nights during 2015 (while bikepacking Argentina).

    Saludos,
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    Tech Specs

    Material: [body] polyester mesh, ripstop nylon, [fly and floor] ripstop nylon, silicone coating, PU coating (1200mm)

    Capacity: 2-person

    Season:3-season

    Wall Type: double-wall

    Freestanding: yes

    Poles: DAC Featherlite Combi

    Number of Poles:1

    Pole Attachment: DAC Twist Clip

    Number of Doors: 1

    Number of Vestibules: 1

    Vestibule Space: 7 sq ft

    Ventilation: mesh walls

    Seams: fully taped

    Interior Height: 38 – 24 in

    Floor Dimensions: 86 x 52 x 42 in

    Floor Space: 28 sq ft

    Packed Size: 4 x 18.5 in

    Fast-pitch Option: yes, footprint not included

    Fast-pitch Weight: 1 lb 7 oz

    Trail Weight: 1 lb 15 oz

    Packed Weight: 2 lb 5 oz

    https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/De...nt/FlyCreekUL2
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola!

    I´m using Big Agnes´Fly Creek UL2. This tent isn´t cheap but in my opinion it has the best space/weight ratio and it´s where I´ll spend most of my nights during 2015 (while bikepacking Argentina).

    Saludos,
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    Tech Specs

    Material: [body] polyester mesh, ripstop nylon, [fly and floor] ripstop nylon, silicone coating, PU coating (1200mm)

    Capacity: 2-person

    Season:3-season

    Wall Type: double-wall

    Freestanding: yes

    Poles: DAC Featherlite Combi

    Number of Poles:1

    Pole Attachment: DAC Twist Clip

    Number of Doors: 1

    Number of Vestibules: 1

    Vestibule Space: 7 sq ft

    Ventilation: mesh walls

    Seams: fully taped

    Interior Height: 38 – 24 in

    Floor Dimensions: 86 x 52 x 42 in

    Floor Space: 28 sq ft

    Packed Size: 4 x 18.5 in

    Fast-pitch Option: yes, footprint not included

    Fast-pitch Weight: 1 lb 7 oz

    Trail Weight: 1 lb 15 oz

    Packed Weight: 2 lb 5 oz

    https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/De...nt/FlyCreekUL2
    how tall are you? Im 6'4" and considering this tent but concerned about actual size opposed to claimed.
    thanks!

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    my buddy has that tent and he's 6'6" and i haven't heard him complain about being cramped, but maybe he don't want to as he paid $400 for the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolamonster View Post
    how tall are you? Im 6'4" and considering this tent but concerned about actual size opposed to claimed.
    thanks!
    Hola nolamonster!

    I´m 6'0" and found it REALLY comfortable for me and all my gear (or me & a friendly female companion, leaving all our stuff at the vestibule)... I guess with 6'4" you´ll be too close to the walls of the tent and won´t have much room to move (if any) unless you sleep diagonally.

    I got mine new (without box) for USD 200 at eBay last year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola!

    I´m using Big Agnes´Fly Creek UL2. This tent isn´t cheap but in my opinion it has the best space/weight ratio and it´s where I´ll spend most of my nights during 2015 (while bikepacking Argentina).

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    Tech Specs

    Material: [body] polyester mesh, ripstop nylon, [fly and floor] ripstop nylon, silicone coating, PU coating (1200mm)

    Capacity: 2-person

    Season:3-season

    Wall Type: double-wall

    Freestanding: yes

    Poles: DAC Featherlite Combi

    Number of Poles:1

    Pole Attachment: DAC Twist Clip

    Number of Doors: 1

    Number of Vestibules: 1

    Vestibule Space: 7 sq ft

    Ventilation: mesh walls

    Seams: fully taped

    Interior Height: 38 – 24 in

    Floor Dimensions: 86 x 52 x 42 in

    Floor Space: 28 sq ft

    Packed Size: 4 x 18.5 in

    Fast-pitch Option: yes, footprint not included

    Fast-pitch Weight: 1 lb 7 oz

    Trail Weight: 1 lb 15 oz

    Packed Weight: 2 lb 5 oz

    https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/De...nt/FlyCreekUL2
    Hola again!

    I bought my Fly Creek UL 2 last year and I couldn´t be happier with it... but I´ve to admit that it feels pretty delicate and I´m not sure how it will handle 120-150 continuous days of use (so far the longest I used it was 1 week).

    During Black Friday-Cyber Monday I´s very close to buying Nemo´s Veda 1P tent as I always carry my trekking poles when camping. I used another of their tents at Aconcagua and was amazed by their quality and design (and Veda had a good weight/size/price relation).

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    Best use: Backpacking
    Seasons: 3-season
    Sleeping capacity: 1-person
    Minimum trail weight: 2 lbs. 1 oz.
    Fly / footprint pitch weight: Not applicable
    Packaged weight: 2 lbs. 7 oz.
    Packed size: 6 x 6 inches
    Floor dimensions: 98 x 36 inches
    Floor area: 24 square feet
    Vestibule area: 12 square feet
    Peak height: 44 inches
    Number of doors: 1 door
    Number of poles: 2 trekking poles (not included)
    Canopy fabric: 40-denier waterproof ripstop polyester
    Floor fabric: 30-denier coated nylon
    Rainfly fabric: 20-denier coated nylon
    Ultralight: Yes
    Design type: Non-freestanding


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    Vintage Sierra Designs Gore Tex Bivy Tent

    Still use these. I'm 6'3". It packs nice and I carry it in my Samurai as a backup. It fits in my fanny pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola again!

    I bought my Fly Creek UL 2 last year and I couldn´t be happier with it... but I´ve to admit that it feels pretty delicate and I´m not sure how it will handle 120-150 continuous days of use (so far the longest I used it was 1 week).
    I've used a bunch of BA products including their Fly Creek UL1. The fabric is delicate in the sense it can't handle much abrasion or sharp stuff. However if you use a ground cloth underneath it and are moderately careful with how you use it you should be fine. I would carry a repair kit on a trip that long with some ripstop nylon tape and seam seal adhesive. You can fix your tent, bags and clothing with that.

    The zippers can give you problems with that much use, but you can lube them pro-actively to keep them working smoothly.
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    I bought a Guide Gear 11X11 tarp about a year ago. Its been great and was around $40. Only caveat is that it was not seam sealed, so that was something I had to do myself. It is not silnylon, but still quite light and compact. It will cover two people though I usually use it solo.

    I also found an older model Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight that I sometimes use if going out with another person. Splitting the weight between two riders still makes it very light. With no ground cloth, it weights only a little more than the Guide Gear tarp and a ground cloth.

    Here are some pics of the tarp from a backpacking trip with my 14 year old son last fall. We had rain the first night and sleet, snow and rain the second. No problems at all (all depends on how you pitch it). I also use a SOL Adventure bivy to go over my bag (that's the orange cover you see in the pic). Adds some warmth and helps mitigate blowing rain. In warm weather (nothing below 50 degrees) I can use the bivy alone. I pitch the tarp differently depending on weather and temperature.

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    Tent, Lights, Night by Mike, on Flickr

    Added a tarptent moment to my kit...
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    When bugs aren't an issue, but I want more weather protection than a bivy, the Mountainsmith 'Mountain Shelter LT' is a great little floorless tent, with comfortable living space for two:



    Info: Mountainsmith Mountain Shelter LT

    Also just picked up a Mountain Hardwear 'SuperMega UL 2" tent - just over 2lbs. Will be putting it to use soon, and post more thoughts then.

    Info: SuperMegaUL? 2 | MountainHardwear.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by She&I View Post
    We just spent 20 nights in our Dash 2. Fantastic design. So little to complain about, I won't bother. Big thumbs up to REI.
    Good to know! I got us the Dash for Christmas. However, REI has pulled the plug on the Dash; apparently, some lucky people got them for outlet prices as they were selling them off. I have a feeling they are going with Big Agnes Fly Creek for the ultralight option.
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    I said I would update after using the Mtn Hardwear Super Mega UL (silliest tent name ever?), and now that I've used it on several trips I can say that it has served me well, especially during our early summer bug season. It's a spacious tent for one, or a cozy tent for two, coming in at 2.1lbs (actual wt). So far it has proven to be durable, even though the fabric feels pretty delicate, but I'm also pretty careful with my gear and where I set up my tent, when possible.



    Enough about that tent, as I much prefer other options as soon as we reach that point in the season where bug netting isn't needed. For the last several trips, I've just been using an Outdoor Research 'Helium' bivy, and it works great. It has a very lightweight pole to keep the fabric off my face, and bug netting if/when needed. For mild weather trips, it's a great option. 1.2lbs (actual wt.)



    My mixed feelings about hammocks continue. I took a Dutchware hammock with a Hammock Gear underquilt on my last trip, and I still think I sleep better (and warmer) on the ground.

    Gettin ready for a 3-day trip coming up this weekend, which we are expecting to have a fair bit of steep singletrack and HAB. I think the Better Half and I are just going to take a 8'x10' silnylon tarp (made by Etowah Outfitters) to keep things as light as possible. I've got a carbon pole ordered for it from Mountain Laurel, but not sure if it will get here in time. If it doesn't, I'll take the MSR alloy adjustable pole we have, or not take a pole at all and just improvise along the way. I've spent a lot of time under tarps, and they are still one of my favorite, and most versatile, ways to go.
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    My UL tent is a BA Fly Creek UL1. Nice tent at ~2lbs. That said I wanted to play around with an even lighter more compact shelter since summer is pretty dry around here and for shorter trips it's not hard to plan around serious rain systems so all I really need is a way to stay dry for light rain or the unexpected localized storm.



    I tried using a 8' x 5' sil tarp and it worked fine. The size is just big enough for this purpose and a 8' x 10' tarp would be better, but I used what I had.



    A lot of the time I won't even need to pull the tarp out.



    But when the rain comes one day earlier than planned on a trip it's nice to have a quick way to sleep dry.

    One of these days I'll get a bigger cuben fibre tarp so I don't have to be so careful how I set everything up.
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    Yeah, with some creativity, there are so many different ways to set up a tarp. It really is the best combination of lightweight versatility I know if. I've spent some rainy days in a bivy and it's not fun - my bivy is largely relegated to trips where I'm not really expecting much moisture, but want something 'just in case.' At least if you're stuck under a tarp in the rain, you can sit up and move around, cook a meal, etc. and not feel trapped in a nylon cocoon.

    FYI - the Etowah 8'x10' tarp weighs 1.1lb with guylines, w/o pole or stakes. With 6 Ti stakes and a 42" carbon pole, it comes in at 1.3lbs.
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    I recently bought a Nemo "Apollo" pyramid tent.

    I've owned a variety of pyramid tents over the years and spent a lot of time in them (an original Megamid, MH Kiva, Seek Outside, etc), and I've always liked what they offer - a simple, stable and lightweight option with increased usable space over of a tent of comparable weight, and more weather-proofness than a tarp. As soon as our short-lived bug season is done, I'd much rather use a tarp or a pyramid-style tent. For winter camping as well, I love the no-floor option for a variety of reasons.

    The Apollo is the perfect size for two people and some gear, and it is definitely lightweight and packs small. The tent body weighs 1.3lbs (.5kg) with the stuff sack and cord guylines. I have ordered a carbon pole from ZPacks to replace the adjustable aluminum pole that comes with the tent. The 52" carbon pole weighs 1.9oz.

    While there are a variety of even lighter, higher-tech fabric pyramid tents out there these days, most of them are twice as expensive for not much more weight savings than the Apollo already offers.

    I'll post more thoughts after using the Apollo on some trips this Fall.
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