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    Quote Originally Posted by spovegas View Post

    One thing I have a question about, for those of you that have done a fair amount of bikepacking with soft packs, is how you deal with abrasion to your frame paint. Mine is wearing fast and bigtime. I'm not all that anal about appearance, but at the same time, it's hard to look the other way when your frame is getting sanded all to hell at 9 different places just by your frame bag alone. The frame is aluminum and so I'm not worried about corrosion, but it still seems somehow wrong to just ignore this. Maybe some helicopter tape? Although it seems like it would take a lot of time and effort? Or just not worry about it?

    What say you . . .
    That bothers me too. I wrapped my new bike frame in cling-film and scotch tape on the frame area where there's contact with bags. I did a blog post on the setup with a couple pics here Protecting Bike Frame for Bikepacking Duties?
    It works really well so far....
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    Thanks, rooze, that's a creative approach.

    I also did a quick search and turned up some opinions/ideas here and here and here.

    My recent trip was a particularly muddy one, so that accelerated the wear for sure. I think I'll order some helicopter tape and try it out in a few of the high wear spots.

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    I use 3m heli tape where the bags rub on the frame.
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    I gave up after a while

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    The setup:
    Salsa Blackborrow DS
    Anything cages: tent on the left, sleeping pad on the right
    Sleeping bag off the handle bars
    Revelate Frame bag and Visacha seat bag for everything else
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    Are these new Anything Cages that don't crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    Are these new Anything Cages that don't crack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurlyBuckeye View Post
    The setup:
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    Anything cages: tent on the left, sleeping pad on the right
    Sleeping bag off the handle bars
    Revelate Frame bag and Visacha seat bag for everything else
    I like your setup. Do you mind me asking what tent you are using?

    I have Revelate designs sweetroll and visacha due to arrive in the mail tomorrow, but I'm going to need a smaller tent and more compact bag to run without my usual panniers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rooze View Post
    I like your setup. Do you mind me asking what tent you are using?.
    Using a REI Quarter Dome 2

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    They are the new anything cage HD, working well so far
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    The camel on last week's bikepacking trip across the Galilee, northern Israel.

    It's a 2011 Pugsley with Titec J-bars (which I'm undecided on - I don't get much use out of the extra hand positions, and I don't like the handling), duct-tape-based ghetto tubeless setup, and five water bottles clamped to the frame. Weight of bike unloaded = effin' heavy. Weight of bike loaded = even worse.

    Tent, sleeping bag, and odds and ends in the handlebar roll. Food in the frame pack. Clothes and potset/stove in the saddlebag, and Thermarest rolled up on top of that. Overflow food capacity in a backpack, which I probably could have done without.

    The fat tires really weren't necessary at all on this ride; they were more suited to last month's ride in Jordan (Southern Jordan - Julian Bender - Travels and Photos). The worst conditions I encountered, tire width couldn't help with - sticky mud that clogged the drivetrain, making not only riding, but even walking impossible. Don't ride here after rain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spovegas View Post
    One thing I have a question about, for those of you that have done a fair amount of bikepacking with soft packs, is how you deal with abrasion to your frame paint. Mine is wearing fast and bigtime. I'm not all that anal about appearance, but at the same time, it's hard to look the other way when your frame is getting sanded all to hell at 9 different places just by your frame bag alone. The frame is aluminum and so I'm not worried about corrosion, but it still seems somehow wrong to just ignore this. Maybe some helicopter tape? Although it seems like it would take a lot of time and effort? Or just not worry about it?

    What say you . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by rooze View Post
    That bothers me too. I wrapped my new bike frame in cling-film and scotch tape on the frame area where there's contact with bags. I did a blog post on the setup with a couple pics here Protecting Bike Frame for Bikepacking Duties?
    It works really well so far....
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    I use 3m heli tape where the bags rub on the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post


    The camel on last week's bikepacking trip across the Galilee, northern Israel.

    It's a 2011 Pugsley with Titec J-bars (which I'm undecided on - I don't get much use out of the extra hand positions, and I don't like the handling), duct-tape-based ghetto tubeless setup, and five water bottles clamped to the frame. Weight of bike unloaded = effin' heavy. Weight of bike loaded = even worse.

    Tent, sleeping bag, and odds and ends in the handlebar roll. Food in the frame pack. Clothes and potset/stove in the saddlebag, and Thermarest rolled up on top of that. Overflow food capacity in a backpack, which I probably could have done without.

    The fat tires really weren't necessary at all on this ride; they were more suited to last month's ride in Jordan (Southern Jordan - Julian Bender - Travels and Photos). The worst conditions I encountered, tire width couldn't help with - sticky mud that clogged the drivetrain, making not only riding, but even walking impossible. Don't ride here after rain...

    Rest of the photos: Bikepacking the Galilee - Album on Imgur
    great trip and images. when i was young i spend some time in moshaw Sde Eli'ezer, just south of Kiryat Shmona, and than made my way all the way down to Eilat and bac k to Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and home. even though i got into some sketchy situations i had great time. i only had small backpack and slept on towel. not sure i could do it again.
    here is my fat setup, just about ready to roll from month ago.
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    Beautiful images of Israel, no idea it gets that green in the spring.

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    See my signature for way more examples. The mid-east is not all brown and dusty! Well, not all the time. Just for 6-8 months out of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    Here is my rig on the remote 2 week trip I did down Salsipuedes canyon in Mexico last month. When I started I had 40 litres of water! A Pugsley with Extrawheel trailer and Alpackaraft.

    Awesome set-up!

    Which size Alpackaraft did you use? How'd you like it? Any pics of it loaded with the bike and trailer?

    Sounds like a great trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic Zero View Post
    Which size Alpackaraft did you use? How'd you like it? Any pics of it loaded with the bike and trailer?
    The Yak. I love my Alpackaraft. It is the only piece of equipment I have that I can't find any improvements I'd make, except for adding more grab attachment points but you can stick those on easily yourself.

    Here is a blog report I did for the trip with photos of the raft fully loaded. It's amazing how much stuff you can stuff inside the pontoons via the cargo fly option. I totally filled it up, I couldn't fit any more large items in it.

    I am hoping to go back and do some further exploration in that area with a new bike I am building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    The Yak. I love my Alpackaraft. It is the only piece of equipment I have that I can't find any improvements I'd make, except for adding more grab attachment points but you can stick those on easily yourself.

    Here is a blog report I did for the trip with photos of the raft fully loaded. It's amazing how much stuff you can stuff inside the pontoons via the cargo fly option. I totally filled it up, I couldn't fit any more large items in it.

    I am hoping to go back and do some further exploration in that area with a new bike I am building.
    Great write up! Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurlyBuckeye View Post
    The setup:
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    Revelate Frame bag and Visacha seat bag for everything else
    I`m getting setup up for my first bikepacking trip with my fatbike. I was wondering how your bike handles with tent and sleeping pad hanging on fork versus having them off a rack in the back. I would worry the weight will throw off the handling being on the front versus the back. Does anyone have some experience to compare.

    Thanks

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    Where did you get your Extrawheel from for a Fattie? I had one for road touring which I sold, and would love to get another for my Salsa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    The Yak. I love my Alpackaraft. It is the only piece of equipment I have that I can't find any improvements I'd make, except for adding more grab attachment points but you can stick those on easily yourself.

    Here is a blog report I did for the trip with photos of the raft fully loaded. It's amazing how much stuff you can stuff inside the pontoons via the cargo fly option. I totally filled it up, I couldn't fit any more large items in it.

    I am hoping to go back and do some further exploration in that area with a new bike I am building.
    Thanks for the link to your epic blog post. That's the best thing I've read online in forever.
    Hope you get to do another trip like that and to share it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventure Dan View Post
    I`m getting setup up for my first bikepacking trip with my fatbike. I was wondering how your bike handles with tent and sleeping pad hanging on fork versus having them off a rack in the back. I would worry the weight will throw off the handling being on the front versus the back. Does anyone have some experience to compare.

    Thanks
    I haven't finished building my fat bike, so I can't speak to that particularly. However, on. my Fargo, I don't mind it that much. If you get too much weight on the rear end, handling starts getting wonky. The biggest downside I have experienced with a front load is difficulty lofting the front wheel. You don't experience the same type of really bad handling with a bit of a front load as with getting rear heavy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooze View Post
    Thanks for the link to your epic blog post. That's the best thing I've read online in forever.
    Hope you get to do another trip like that and to share it...
    Thanks. I'm really trying to get the movie together but it is a lot of work! I think I'll do it in a few parts to keep people satisfied and craving more... I've been reviewing the footage and there's some good stuff there. Thinking back, it was a pretty amazing trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_BC View Post
    Here is my rig on the remote 2 week trip I did down Salsipuedes canyon in Mexico last month. When I started I had 40 litres of water! A Pugsley with Extrawheel trailer and Alpackaraft.

    Fantastic write up. I really enjoyed reading your article, and the pictures were great.

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    I just bought a cheap fatbike (Gravity Bullseye - I have read the long thread for that bike already here on MTB'r)

    I'm a roadie by nature, quite casual at around 1800 miles/year, but I'd like to extend into the Michigan winter a bit this year, so I grabbed the aforementioned bike. I know it's not the best but not only did I not want to spend a lot of cash on a fat bike, but I also like the idea of not having to tear up so bad when I plow it through the snowbanks, leave it outside, or take an inevitable spill on ice.

    Anyways - I'm curious what all of the rack setups that people have. I will likely use this for some commuting this winter but would like the ability to also bikepack. I think a front & rear rack with panniers setup would be easiest for carrying a load that I can also easily remove and take into the office without looking like I'm going camping. I'd want to carry lunch, change of clothes, tools, emergency supplies, and on the nicer days possibly my laptop. Prefer to load the bike over my back.

    I really like a few setups here, but not many link directly to the parts they used.
    Cheap is good! I don't expect this to win any races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire View Post
    Rear pack has internal stays which bolt to the frame's rack mounts to prevent swaying and mounts low enough to be able to swing your leg over it easily. No racks needed.
    What pack is that?

    edit: missed your earlier reply to the same question
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    How do you like the fork?
    Would you suggest it?
    Also, what is the largest rotor size it will mate with?

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    11ANTS ElephANT with Alpkit and Revelate bags in Sweden last summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giel View Post


    11ANTS ElephANT with Alpkit and Revelate bags in Sweden last summer
    nice pic. Where in Sweden? i am looking at maps now trying to figure out if the Riksgransen area would be good for a fatbike trip in summer, or if it's too steep / too much pushing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alias View Post
    nice pic. Where in Sweden? i am looking at maps now trying to figure out if the Riksgransen area would be good for a fatbike trip in summer, or if it's too steep / too much pushing....
    This pic was taken last summer, just north of Hemavan if I remember correctly. I rode about 1800km off-road from the south of Sweden to Staloluokta. Was attempting the Grona Bandet, but ran out of time. I have looked at Riksgransen myself and rode the area south of it (Mavas to Staloluokta) which was doable, around 30% HAB). Bear in mind that Padjelanta National Park) is not open to bikes and they actually enforce this rule (I had to take a helicopter out from Staloluokta to Ritsem because of this). Last year I rode Abisko-Nikkoluokta, snow was piled up high on Tjaktja pass, around 15% HAB if you're a technically savvy rider, more if not. I'd say give Riksgransen a try and report back. Worst thing that can happen is that you hike a bit more than expected in a beautiful mountain scenery

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrduford View Post
    I just bought a cheap fatbike (Gravity Bullseye - I have read the long thread for that bike already here on MTB'r)

    I'm a roadie by nature, quite casual at around 1800 miles/year, but I'd like to extend into the Michigan winter a bit this year, so I grabbed the aforementioned bike. I know it's not the best but not only did I not want to spend a lot of cash on a fat bike, but I also like the idea of not having to tear up so bad when I plow it through the snowbanks, leave it outside, or take an inevitable spill on ice.

    Anyways - I'm curious what all of the rack setups that people have. I will likely use this for some commuting this winter but would like the ability to also bikepack. I think a front & rear rack with panniers setup would be easiest for carrying a load that I can also easily remove and take into the office without looking like I'm going camping. I'd want to carry lunch, change of clothes, tools, emergency supplies, and on the nicer days possibly my laptop. Prefer to load the bike over my back.

    I really like a few setups here, but not many link directly to the parts they used.
    Cheap is good! I don't expect this to win any races.

    Will a standard size rear rack fit on a fatbike?

    Maybe you've seen this thread already. Not too bad for a $30.00 rack.

    The biggest issue with trying to use a standard size rack on a fatbike will likely be the mounting to the seat stays. (Seat stays on fatbike are typically much wider, so rack may need to be mounted to the inside of the stays)

    I plan on doing a similar install on my Old Man Mountain Rack. OMM stuff isn't cheap, but I'm going that route simply because it's what I have in the garage.

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    Pugs and slick rock camping. Exploring the territory between the Maze and the Dirty Devil.

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    First trip Bikepacking went great, we set out on a 2.5 day 2 night 70 mile backcountry trip. Started out with mostly food and a few beers in the frame bag. Sleeping bag, maps ect on the bars. rain fly, hammock, down jacket, Pants, socks on the forks. Cookware, stove, water filter, rain jacket, leg warmers, more food, extra riding jersey in the seat bag. On the go food (tangerines, grapes, cliff bars) in the feed sack and top tube bag. All gear was on the bike no back pack. As the food disappeared the heavier items on the forks went in the frame bag.

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    already planning the next trip!

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    What did you use to carry water? I saw one bottle on the handlebar, was that it?

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    Nope had a 48oz nalgene on the bottom of the down tube and the 20oz on the bar stem.(the nalgene can be seen in the second pic) We'd hydrate up in the morning then fill the bottles for the days ride. With the cool weather it was plenty. I'd be hard to go thirsty here with a filter, there's creeks everywhere in this part of Virginia.

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    Here's my bike fully loaded for two nights and three days in Utah's West Desert. I'm hauling all my own water -- 14.5 liters! The frame bag, down tube bags, and handlebar bottle holders are dedicated entirely to carrying water. I'm not wearing a backpack.

    Yes, due to all the water, the bike is extremely heavy: 88 lbs. It is probably too heavy to ride any significant distance on technical or hilly terrain. But for flat, sandy trails it is just fine.

    Gotsta stay hydrated!


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    my Ritchey Commando on a trestle of an abandoned railway near Anza Borrego State Park

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC Tortfeasor View Post
    Here's my bike fully loaded for two nights and three days in Utah's West Desert. I'm hauling all my own water -- 14.5 liters! The frame bag, down tube bags, and handlebar bottle holders are dedicated entirely to carrying water. I'm not wearing a backpack.

    Yes, due to all the water, the bike is extremely heavy: 88 lbs. It is probably too heavy to ride any significant distance on technical or hilly terrain. But for flat, sandy trails it is just fine.

    Gotsta stay hydrated!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
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    Yep. Nick did a great job for me. I would recommend Rogue Panda to anyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by senor_mikey View Post
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    Bike set up for a few days on the Australian coast around Newcastle


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    Here's my setup from a recent 7 day trip. Just waiting for a frame bag so I can run a 3L bladder and cookset in frame bag. Apart from that I'm pretty happy

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    Post your Fat-Bikepacking setup!-1049949d1455438654-today-wednesday-t1hbtlc.jpg

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