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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    Super interested in more info about the 1x5 setup!
    Just the low end of a 9spd or 8spd cassette on the King SS hub.

    1x5 Bikepacking Krampus with MRP Stage front end by Mike, on Flickr

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    I think the guy who I bought the wheelset from used a headset or BB facing tool to take a few mm off the carrier to get it to fit.

    I'm using a 9spd bar end shifter on a Paul thumbie to push a Tiagra short cage road derailer. So far nothing blew up.

    I have a nice XTR reverse rise that I wanted to use but need longer limit screws. But the short cage works well enough. Aside from chain slap, which I haven't heard in 3 years with the SS and Rohloff setup.

    Sort of miss the SS but I might be glad for a few lower gears. I was running 30/20 and the cassette is 19-32 so I'm dropping 1 tooth and picking up the low end. So I'll be slow on the road stretches and have a few more options on the steep stuff.

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    Some pics from our trip to Pöyrisjärvi wilderness area https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/145140...7673675645185/

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    @bmike I've seen a few of those types of setups with the Hope SS hubs on here. I think there are a few threads and IIRC Walt will chop up cassette for you to get it to fit. I like the idea, but have never had the need, as yet, to do it. Nice setup.

    One thing I noticed that I'm curious about is that the forward running spokes on the disc side run internally instead of outside the flange. I've been told running the trailing spokes inside the hub flange and forward spokes outside the flange builds a stronger wheel. Which is how I have built my wheels, not that I'm a pro wheel builder by any stretch of my imagination. Just curious if you have any thoughts on that wheel build, I realize you got it from someone else, but curious nonetheless.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    @bmike I've seen a few of those types of setups with the Hope SS hubs on here. I think there are a few threads and IIRC Walt will chop up cassette for you to get it to fit. I like the idea, but have never had the need, as yet, to do it. Nice setup.

    One thing I noticed that I'm curious about is that the forward running spokes on the disc side run internally instead of outside the flange. I've been told running the trailing spokes inside the hub flange and forward spokes outside the flange builds a stronger wheel. Which is how I have built my wheels, not that I'm a pro wheel builder by any stretch of my imagination. Just curious if you have any thoughts on that wheel build, I realize you got it from someone else, but curious nonetheless.
    I bought these from an ace mechanic when he decided to abandon 29+ and move on to something else... I can email him and ask him.

    I really want to do 16-20-24-28-32 - which I think would be ideal as a bikepacking option. But I don't want to risk chewing up my King hub by putting on individual cogs. I have another cassette that would work here, might take it apart, drill out out the carrier rivets, and see what I can make up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    Super interested in more info about the 1x5 setup!

    so i had some really weird chain suck on the setup pictured in that last post:

    Battle damage. Re/wrapped and swapped to an XTR derailer. Probably gonna suck it up and single speed. by Mike, on Flickr

    It did some damage to my chain stay.
    So I pulled the Tiagra derailer and put on the XTR reverse rise or whatever - seems to be working far better.

    And I changed how I wrapped the stay for chain slap:

    Battle damage. Re/wrapped and swapped to an XTR derailer. Probably gonna suck it up and single speed. by Mike, on Flickr

    Battle damage. Re/wrapped and swapped to an XTR derailer. Probably gonna suck it up and single speed. by Mike, on Flickr

    So far, much better!

    Then, because I had one, I added a chain watcher to the seatpost... although I'm running a WolfTooth Narrow Wide - so its likely not needed.

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    1x5 Krampus overnight a success.
    50+ miles in just over 24 hours with camping in between.
    Singletrack, doubletrack, forest road and a slice of pavement.

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    Bikepacking VT by Mike, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
    1x5 Krampus overnight a success.
    50+ miles in just over 24 hours with camping in between.
    Singletrack, doubletrack, forest road and a slice of pavement.

    Bikepacking VT by Mike, on Flickr

    Bikepacking VT by Mike, on Flickr
    Inspired by your 1x5 (hell, most of my stuff is inspired by that Krampus), I just pulled the trigger on half of the Sram X01 DH 7-speed kit. A super-burly 7-speed drivetrain with no tire rub with extra-fat tires, and only a little extra gear ratio above what I'm happily running on my SS build.

    Looking forward to getting it together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    Inspired by your 1x5 (hell, most of my stuff is inspired by that Krampus), I just pulled the trigger on half of the Sram X01 DH 7-speed kit. A super-burly 7-speed drivetrain with no tire rub with extra-fat tires, and only a little extra gear ratio above what I'm happily running on my SS build.

    Looking forward to getting it together!

    That sounds rad..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Another fat bike conversion to 29+ bikepacking

    Here is my 9 zero 7 set up as a 29+ which I road on multiple surfaces in the French River area bikepacking.

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    Using a Salsa Enabler fork with two 5L drybags in anything cages, 20L drybag in home made roll harness, 10L drybag in home made saddle rack and a Porcelain Rocket roll top frame bag. Riding without a pack.

    Thudbuster seatpost and Jones H bar handle bar. I'm running a double stem with a lower handlebar to keep the roll forward, add places to attach gear including the mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
    That sounds rad..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    never mind... $$$ for a range that I'd have to tweak my crank to lower, and i'd need a sram hd driver hub.
    but still a cool concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventure Dan View Post
    Here is my 9 zero 7 set up as a 29+ which I road on multiple surfaces in the French River area bikepacking.

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    Using a Salsa Enabler fork with two 5L drybags in anything cages, 20L drybag in home made roll harness, 10L drybag in home made saddle rack and a Porcelain Rocket roll top frame bag. Riding without a pack.

    Thudbuster seatpost and Jones H bar handle bar. I'm running a double stem with a lower handlebar to keep the roll forward, add places to attach gear including the mirrors.
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    My Bikepacking rig

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
    Just the low end of a 9spd or 8spd cassette on the King SS hub.

    I think the guy who I bought the wheelset from used a headset or BB facing tool to take a few mm off the carrier to get it to fit.

    I'm using a 9spd bar end shifter on a Paul thumbie to push a Tiagra short cage road derailer. So far nothing blew up.

    I have a nice XTR reverse rise that I wanted to use but need longer limit screws. But the short cage works well enough. Aside from chain slap, which I haven't heard in 3 years with the SS and Rohloff setup.

    Sort of miss the SS but I might be glad for a few lower gears. I was running 30/20 and the cassette is 19-32 so I'm dropping 1 tooth and picking up the low end. So I'll be slow on the road stretches and have a few more options on the steep stuff.
    I've had your 5-speed build in my head all month. I loved the simplicity of it, and the "zen" experience of having a limited gear range, but with a little variation for mixed terrain bikepacking.

    I had some parts kicking around my LBS and found a few deals on eBay, and I'm 95% of the way to running the Sram 7-speed DH group on my Pugsley. I'll have a range of 11-24 with 7 speeds, very lightweight with all-steel cassette cogs, and a 28T narrow-wide chainring (Surly's steel NW) with a bash. Nice and clean, with the ability to quickly shed gears on the downhill and get a little more leverage on steep climbs. Plus, I get tons of mud/snow clearance with a big rear tire. Chain rub was the only issue when I ran 4.6" in the back last winter.

    This should be fun. And, since the DH group costs so much less than regular 11-speed X01, I also get a really expensive, primo, nice-feeling shift without destroying my budget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    I've had your 5-speed build in my head all month. I loved the simplicity of it, and the "zen" experience of having a limited gear range, but with a little variation for mixed terrain bikepacking.

    I had some parts kicking around my LBS and found a few deals on eBay, and I'm 95% of the way to running the Sram 7-speed DH group on my Pugsley. I'll have a range of 11-24 with 7 speeds, very lightweight with all-steel cassette cogs, and a 28T narrow-wide chainring (Surly's steel NW) with a bash. Nice and clean, with the ability to quickly shed gears on the downhill and get a little more leverage on steep climbs. Plus, I get tons of mud/snow clearance with a big rear tire. Chain rub was the only issue when I ran 4.6" in the back last winter.

    This should be fun. And, since the DH group costs so much less than regular 11-speed X01, I also get a really expensive, primo, nice-feeling shift without destroying my budget!

    Nice. I wanted to go the other way - didn't care about the fast end, wanted a little more range on the low end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
    Nice. I wanted to go the other way - didn't care about the fast end, wanted a little more range on the low end.
    It sort of sounds stupid, but I don't want to lose the punishment of SS. It's been really good for my technique and my endurance to have to push a higher gear almost all the time.

    At any rate, if the experimental DH Drivetrain doesn't check enough boxes I can always go back to the single cog!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    It sort of sounds stupid, but I don't want to lose the punishment of SS. It's been really good for my technique and my endurance to have to push a higher gear almost all the time.
    No doubt. And that 7 speed setup will be bomber. I'm using the 5spd as a bridge to go SS trippin'. Just not there yet. And for me, 30/32 on trails up here is punishing enough when the rest of the group is riding 24 or 28x42!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
    No doubt. And that 7 speed setup will be bomber. I'm using the 5spd as a bridge to go SS trippin'. Just not there yet. And for me, 30/32 on trails up here is punishing enough when the rest of the group is riding 24 or 28x42!
    I'm definitely no superhero out there when it comes to SS, but I have my rig set up with 31/18 and 24/25 with the dinglespeed setup. And, I haven't switched over to the 24/25 setup since I got back from Iceland in August. I've spent the last two weekends in the woods practicing clearing the tougher climbs in the big gear, and boy, it's brutal and momentum makes a big difference, but I can do it most of the time! It's really satisfying coming into a short, punchy climb aggressively and then barely sneaking over the crest at the top. We have a few good dried-out flash flood streambeds that have made for some pretty great climbs, too.

    For bikepacking, I found that 24/25 was still ridiculously low. I didn't struggle with anything on it. So, I imagine the low end of this setup (28/24) is going to cover about 90% of the climbing. Anything steeper than that, and I'm happy to walk.

    I don't know what I'm gonna do with 28/11. That's a fast gear. Maybe I'll try a couple of casual road group rides!

    Kind of terrible iPhone pic from today, now set up tubeless and loving the weight decrease. About 28lbs without the framebag or bottle cages.

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    The rig for my upcoming 3-day weekend:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    The rig for my upcoming 3-day weekend:

    Nice,

    Type of rear panniers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richwolf View Post
    Nice,

    Type of rear panniers?
    Rogue Panda 'Kaibabs'

    Simple, compact and rock solid.
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    For the long cold pursuits!

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    Topeak TopLoader bag #1: spare tube, mini pump, mini tool

    Topeak TopLoader bag #2: Food, digital camera

    Topeak MidLoader frame bag: MontBell down jacket, emergency hand and toe warmers, food

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    My Waltworks in Baja Explorer mode....
    *Dingle 32/19, 30/21
    *29+ front 3.0" Chronicle, 29er rear 2.4" Ikon
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    *All bags MYOG
    *As shown carrying over 6L of fluids and nearly 2 days of food. No back pack.
    *Rode over 400 miles of the southern section of the Baja Divide route and about 300 miles of paved/highways the 3 weeks before Christmas. Really nice mix for a last minute, slapped together tour.

    Fun stuff down there in the Baja. Great food, great riding and terrain, awesome people, perfect weather. I'll be back for sure!
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    Sweet rig, Addy!!

    In a former life, I spent a fair bit of time in Baja. It's been fun looking over the route that Lael and Nick (and others) have put together, and to remember exploring some of those areas myself years ago. I'd love to get back down there and ride the whole thing some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Sweet rig, Addy!!

    In a former life, I spent a fair bit of time in Baja. It's been fun looking over the route that Lael and Nick (and others) have put together, and to remember exploring some of those areas myself years ago. I'd love to get back down there and ride the whole thing some day.
    Thanks Smithhammer, this bike has truly proven to be the jack of all trades I envisioned it to be when 'designing' it over 4 years ago, Walt nailed it then and it continues to shine.

    I had a great time down that way. Nick, Lael and crew put a bunch of time into it and pieced together one heck of a bike tour. The group left on the 'grand depart' tour today. Hopefully the weather picks up a bit for them. As long as they stay safe and make smart decisions they'll have a great time. If you ever have the opportunity from the sections I did I'd strongly recommend it. The miles didn't come easy but they were beautiful.

    I've got a more detailed version of the post here 'over on those other bikepacking forums' if you're interested.
    Cheers!

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    My 2012 Highball only 3rd bikepack trip
    Drive train is old school 3x9 with 20t small chainring and 34t rear cog. Superlow, but super nice for long climbs fully loaded.

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    Just added a downtube bag to my kit, but have not had time to use it yet.


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    Post your Bikepacking Rig (and gear layout!)-img_0059.jpg

    Been lurking a while, thought it was time to post here. I just picked up the Jones/Revelate truss fork bags, and they are rock solid, even loaded up. This is my rig as I'll be packing it for a multi-year bike tour I'm starting next year (minus the Bedrock Entrada handlebar bag, I wanted to check the handling fully loaded for the "big ride" but then I got lazy). For shorter trips, I just run the Revelate frame bag, the Arkel Tailrider, two Feedbags, and a Banana Hammock in the loop. I'll probably be leaving the fork bags on for shorter trips now too, they fit a good amount of stuff and don't really affect handling at all. Bike is the Jones Plus 24", Gates/Rohloff drivetrain, Scrapers and Chronicles, BB7s. Surly Nice Rack in back. Not the lightest rig ever built, but I don't get real hung up over weight. I'm riding, not racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrkT View Post
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    Been lurking a while, thought it was time to post here. I just picked up the Jones/Revelate truss fork bags, and they are rock solid, even loaded up. This is my rig as I'll be packing it for a multi-year bike tour I'm starting next year (minus the Bedrock Entrada handlebar bag, I wanted to check the handling fully loaded for the "big ride" but then I got lazy). For shorter trips, I just run the Revelate frame bag, the Arkel Tailrider, two Feedbags, and a Banana Hammock in the loop. I'll probably be leaving the fork bags on for shorter trips now too, they fit a good amount of stuff and don't really affect handling at all. Bike is the Jones Plus 24", Gates/Rohloff drivetrain, Scrapers and Chronicles, BB7s. Surly Nice Rack in back. Not the lightest rig ever built, but I don't get real hung up over weight. I'm riding, not racing.
    Multi-year? Will you chronicling this adventure anywhere?

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    Yeah, I'll be taking along a GoPro and a Lumix FZ1000 (a long zoom compact camera) and my iPad to share the trip. I've bacpacked cross-country before and loved it. When I got back from that trip, I came across Iohan's (bikewanderer.com) videos on youtube, and knew I had to gear up for a new adventure. If you haven't seen his videos, drop whatever you're doing and go binge watch them asap! So inspiring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
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    Those Kaibabs are sweet. Kinda wish I'd seen them earlier!

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    Scott Scale 945 Revelate Designs and Rogue Panda

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    Ready for this summer until I can afford the really nice bags...


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    My kit from last year.

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    Here's my setup nearly there for the first weekend ordeal. I'm planning a two nighter through Hoosier National Forest, Yellowwood State Forest and Brown County State Park in Indiana. Hopefully this will help me figure out what the heck I'm doing.


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    Love the pics - straight work horses! I want to give this a shot sometime. Sounds like a good future trip to plan out.

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    The bike I'm using to train for the Tour Divide. Salsa Beargrease XX1 from 2013 when everything, including the rims, was carbon fiber. No kidding, the bike by itself only weighs 20 pounds but I have it loaded up with about 45 pounds of weight including two ten-pound plates in the frame bag.

    The race bike is a Salsa El Mariachi Ti with a Rohloff Speedhub.

    I really like the Speedhub. Except for a whirring noise in 8th gear I can't tell the differnce between it and a derailleur setup.
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    Been lurking a while, thought it was time to post here. I just picked up the Jones/Revelate truss fork bags, and they are rock solid, even loaded up. This is my rig as I'll be packing it for a multi-year bike tour I'm starting next year (minus the Bedrock Entrada handlebar bag, I wanted to check the handling fully loaded for the "big ride" but then I got lazy). For shorter trips, I just run the Revelate frame bag, the Arkel Tailrider, two Feedbags, and a Banana Hammock in the loop. I'll probably be leaving the fork bags on for shorter trips now too, they fit a good amount of stuff and don't really affect handling at all. Bike is the Jones Plus 24", Gates/Rohloff drivetrain, Scrapers and Chronicles, BB7s. Surly Nice Rack in back. Not the lightest rig ever built, but I don't get real hung up over weight. I'm riding, not racing.
    Your setup looks great. I'm glad to hear you like the fork bags, I have been planning to get them.

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    Well this is my second Jones
    It's a Jones Diamond.



    But I have started building up a 3rd Jones!
    This time a Jones 23"Plus Spaceframe for next year's Tour Aotearoa which is the longest event in New Zealand @ 3000km long (that's one million miles)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuropoda View Post
    The bike I'm using to train for the Tour Divide. Salsa Beargrease XX1 from 2013 when everything, including the rims, was carbon fiber. No kidding, the bike by itself only weighs 20 pounds but I have it loaded up with about 45 pounds of weight including two ten-pound plates in the frame bag.

    The race bike is a Salsa El Mariachi Ti with a Rohloff Speedhub.

    I really like the Speedhub. Except for a whirring noise in 8th gear I can't tell the differnce between it and a derailleur setup.
    What is the function/purpose of the two ten pound "plates?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by connolm View Post
    What is the function/purpose of the two ten pound "plates?"

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    Training. We don't have too many big hills in Louisiana so I'm trying to get a little more resistance on the ones we have.

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    interesting 20-minute video: Comes With Baggage Movie - BIKEPACKING.com
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    My ol' 9:Zero:7 as I was riding it in Wisconsin/UP Michigan northwoods last year:



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    When y'all are bikepacking, I can't imagine its very technical. Are the trails pretty smooth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgun Jeremy View Post
    When y'all are bikepacking, I can't imagine its very technical. Are the trails pretty smooth?
    Can't speak for the others, but my trails are smooth as marble


    Bikepacking the GW National Forest by ricky d, on Flickr

    I'm a decent technical, rocky rider, and this particular trip at the George Washington National Forest was really hard for me, and would have been tough even without the 30+ pounds of extra gear. There were a handful of places that were rockier and steeper than most of the trails that are closer to me in DC. I didn't catch the hardest stuff in my vid because I was too busy trying to hike and keep up with my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgun Jeremy View Post
    When y'all are bikepacking, I can't imagine its very technical. Are the trails pretty smooth?
    Runs the gammet for me. There's a trail in Tahoe called Mr Toads and 5"travel+ is recommended. Been down it loaded on my steel hardtail bikepacking. Other than gap jumps and huge drops I find if I take my time and choose good lines I can pick my way through just about anything. I do prefer just enough tech to keep it interesting when bikepacking so I can still hold my speed, really gnarly tech stuff gets old quick when loaded, doable or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgun Jeremy View Post
    When y'all are bikepacking, I can't imagine its very technical. Are the trails pretty smooth?
    I find that the off trail riding is the most technical, and fences can be a *****. I keep it light enough to lift over a fence or hand hand up a short free climb. Depends where you ride, of course, but the middle of nowhere has few smooth trails.
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