tibbsy, how much water do you normally use in a day? trying to plan for a trip next week.
It will really depend on how far you are intending to ride (and the temp), my last trip was only an overnighter and relatively short at about 30km each day. With riding, cooking and being around camp I used approx 6 litres. About 2.5 on the ride, 2 post ride and 1.5 for dinner and breakfast. Then another 2.5 litres the next day...
I try and ensure I'm riding with a water source close, and carry a steri-pen!
I'm about to embark on two days with enough water for me and another person. That equates to about 14 liters on my bike. I'm not riding with a backpack and I'm taking a rather large sleeping pad. After my bike weighed in at about 75 lbs it should be a nice weekend of slowwww riding. Also a change of pace from the TD. I have to carry all of my food!
On One Inbred with Karate Monkey fork, Rabbit Hole rims, Knard front and 2.4 Conti rear.
Krampus almost stock.
Those On-One frames are lovely - how do you like their quality?
Seems high. Attention to detail is better than Surly, but this is an older On One frame. I recently put together a 2013 Inbred for a friend and it was not as nice. The curved stays were gone, some braze-ons were missing, rear drops not modular.
Originally Posted by Dusza
Pugsley setup for bikepacking
Here's my Pugsley setup. Homemade frame bag and seat bag. Revelate sweetroll bag up front. I also had a small Osprey backpack with beer and food.
I'm currently kitting out my older Karate Monkey with an Ogre fork for a slightly lighter setup for a tropical bikepacking adventure over the winter holidays.
I rode across Sweden, and am about halfway along the southern coast of Norway now. I've been camping sometimes, staying in hostels sometimes - but as the weather's gotten colder and wetter, I have to admit I've stopped camping and am now doing the credit card thing. I don't have the physical constitution to handle 5-7 hours of riding a day in the low 40's, and camping overnight, all in rain. That's what the final week of my tour is shaping up to be...and if I'm lucky, I won't get snowed on.
I have a tent, sleeping bag, pad, mini stove, down jacket, full rain gear, one full set of cold weather off-the-bike clothes, two bibs & jerseys, and a bunch of stuff that I'm lucky I haven't needed (like anti-blister pads and my emergency bivvy). As it is, I have room for two days' food and some extra water.
Still, this is my first multi-day tour. I will definitely reconfigure things, change up the gear a bit, and get a 2-layer tent that I can completely set up and break down in the rain.
Last edited by schnee; 08-11-2015 at 02:36 PM.
Schnee, cool set up. What're you using for a rack on your front forks? Those little Ortliebs look perfect up there.
Thanks! Front rack is a Tubus Duo. Since the Vaya fork has eyelets on both sides (which is plenty stable) I went the minimalist route.
This is a pic of my bike and bags prior to this year's CTR. The bags are made from Oveja Negra Threadworks in Leadville. Super solid company owned by some really cool folks. I love these bags.
I stashed the following gear on bike, as I did not wear a backpack.
1. Escape Bivy
2. 2 water bottles
3. 1 100oz bladder in frame bag
4. Aquamira drops
5. 1 bike shorts/jersey
6. Rab down jacket
7. Rain gear
8. 2 wool socks
9. 1 long sleeve wool shirt
10. 1 wool long underwear
12. 1 warm pair of gloves
14. Chamois cream
22. CTR data book
25. Fenix LD20 on my lid and Coast PX25 on the bars
26. Tire boot, Hanger, Chain links, Multi-tool, 2 tubes, Pump, Brake pads, Zip ties, Tube patch kit, First Aid Kit, Duct tape
I think this next year I will try and trim the list down just a bit, but it is already fairly tight. Let me know if you guys have any questions!
That frame bag looks the business
Ottocat, yep, the Oveja framebag is sweet. That is their stock frame bag, but they also do some really cool custom bags. I can't recommend them enough.
Originally Posted by Ottocat
Schnee, that looks like a great trip! Good luck!
i haven't done any bikepacking yet, however in preparation of doing a tour on my fat bike (my choice)
but anywho heres a shot of it with all bags except the handlebar...
Is the Pug as well as the Fargo or is it a replacement???
Originally Posted by satanas
indy fab (skinny, road and rando and lite camping), fargo (chubby, dirt road, fun, single track, bikepacking), pugsley (fat, mountain bike, snow, fun, and now bikepacking)...
Took the Troll out in the Judean Mountains...it enjoyed the rocky dirt roads of the Holy Land very much.
Full ride report here: November 2013: S24O, Jerusalem Mountains - Julian Bender - Travels and Photos
Big Agnes Fly Creek UL1 tent
Thermarest XLite sleeping pad
Extra clothes (not many in this case - no rain and mild temps expected)
Pocket on handlebar:
Trowel (of course, the ground is kind of too hard to dig in, but whatever)
Headlamp and spare batteries
Front "gas tank":
First aid kit
Rear "gas tank" (it's supposed to fit between the seatpost and chainstays, but sits on top of the rack stays just fine too):
Hygiene stuff - toothbrush/paste, contacts and solution, soap, bug spray
Frame pack main pocket:
Topo trail map (this particular one is too big to fit in the side pocket, which is actually meant for maps)
Frame pack side pocket:
Tools, patch kit
Stuff sack on rear rack:
Quilt (Hammock Gear 20 degree down)
If I were smart I would have rolled up my 10oz day pack and strapped it on top of the rear stuff sack, and then when the rack bolts failed I would have had the backpack as a backup; plus a light daypack is always good to have. Oh well, live and learn.
Thermarest Gear View dry bag works extremely well for a handlebar roll - previously I'd been using the green Sea to Summit bag that's on the rear now, but the Thermarest is a bit narrower and just somehow fits everything better - much more stable and less flopping around.
Handlebar Sling and Pocket are Revelate...too bad the Sling is discontinued; it was less than half the cost of the Harness that he's still making, and afaik works just as well for moderate loads.
Frame packs are by Greg Wheelwright/Bolder Bikepacking Gear...great stuff and he was very good to work with.
Bottle cages on the fork are by Two Fish. They came with velcro straps to attach to the fork, but those just weren't stable at all; now I'm using hose clamps instead, which are rock solid. The cages themselves are great and hold bottles like glue. The King Cage top cap bottle mount is also excellent for expanding water capacity, although I lost my third bottle on a bus and haven't replaced it yet...
pugsley and contrail by mbeganyi, on Flickr
IMG_2184 by mbeganyi, on Flickr
From a 2 day trip.
Bikepacking List Fall
Maps / Cue card
Batteries AAA and AA
Dinotte on bike
First aid kit
Alcohol / esbit tabs
Bear bag with line
Fire starter / matches
Cut down dirty platy bottle
Aqua Mira drops
Reflective bubble sit pad / food insulator
Derailler hanger (if Fargo)
Brake pads (1 set)
Cycling gloves (split fingers)
Showers Pass jacket
Rapha jersey (got to be fashionable)
Starting to look like a touring bike. Doing the GDMBR south to north this summer.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/10875428835/" title="Rocky Mountain Trailhead by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7364/10875428835_eacdcfcc03_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Rocky Mountain Trailhead"></a>
^^ It does have a certain "touring bike" look to it
I`ve never seen a front rack anything like yours. What is it and how does it mount?
Great write-up, Julian!
Originally Posted by jbphilly
I think I read about your rack bolt dilema on Crazyguy. I need to go back and cruise the rest of your website- am embarrased to admit it, but I would never have expected such beautiful scenery and well mapped trails in that area. I take it mortars and landmines aren`t a big concern?
Originally Posted by rodar y rodar
Yeah, it's a really beautiful region. Today I'm going hiking from some mostly un-excavated Roman ruins in the West Bank (Sebastia) up to a mountain with some sheikh's tomb on top...it's not like Montana or Colorado but it's got its own beauty and history to go along with it.
On the Israeli side, landmines are only a potential issue in the Golan Heights, and even then, areas that might be mined are fenced off and well-marked. I don't know of Jordan or Egypt having any landmine issues, and I've unfortunately not been to Syria or Lebanon...
Hey SaddleUp, I'm curious why this bike over your Troll or LHT. It looks solid either way. Cool bike.
Originally Posted by Saddle Up
The rack is from Salsa, two racks actually. The top part is their Minimalist, the botton the Down Under. Here is a shot without the bags.
Originally Posted by rodar y rodar
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/10875411055/" title="Rocky Mountain Trailhead by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/10875411055_2dbe4e5fa8_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Rocky Mountain Trailhead"></a>
I can see clearly now, the bags is gone...
Originally Posted by Saddle Up
I've ridden the CDN GDR with panniers and the whole time I wished I had soft bags. Went home and ordered some!
Originally Posted by Saddle Up
I found with panniers and racks I had to baby the bike and find the smoothest lines. Not to mention I had way too much weight/gear with me which was an issue on its own.
With soft bags I can ride ride my bike like it's a MTB and have a lot more fun without thinking about the cargo at all.
Ha ha, different perspectives. I rode the CDN GDR and ordered another set of panniers, a handlebar bag and lower rack as soon as I got home.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8531379759/" title="Great Divide Canada by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8238/8531379759_4fb91f5472_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Great Divide Canada"></a>
Originally Posted by vaultbrad
On One Scandal with Alfine 8
Been bikepacking now about 6 years. Traditionally took my dually with a Old Man Mountain back rack. A few months ago built up a 29er Scandal hard tail with an Alfine 8 for bikepacking duties. Took it out for it's first over nighter last weekend into Australia's alpine region, (Jagungal Wilderness). Was very happy with the set up. Alfine 8 was also great:
Alpkit heavy duty dry bags on front and back.
A few more pics here:
Scandal 29er build with Alfine 8
I did the Co-Ut hut to hut trip and my entrada front bar bag worked great, the weight up front was key .Entrada handlebar bag with Pocket Panel option / Bedrock Bags and Packs I's actually up for grabs used once !!!!! 65 retail was - 150
Is this cheating?
I doubt it.
it could be considered cheating; but then again, we have the same kind of prejudice for touring rigs when people are using old steel racks/baskets or similar stuff as opposed to the ultra-light stuff that's popular now...
now you know what would be truly EPIC?
jumping out of a plane with a Montague folder in your bags and then bike pack from the landing zone using the parachute materials as your shelters
Here's a build that one of the members of the Cycle Monkey crew came up with when he set out to build the ultimate adventure touring rig. Came out pretty great, if I do say so myself!
Surly Krampus with belt drive splitter welded in mid-chainstay
Rohloff/Gates belt drivetrain
Fox F29 fork
Cane Creek Thudbuster
Revelate Designs bags
Oh my bikes done! It looks great. I'll just send you my address! drool!!! Wow that is gorgeous. A dream bike packing set up for sure!
Originally Posted by CycleMonkey
Come to think of it, here's another 29+ build we did recently. No bikepacking gear yet, but the frame is custom built with a longer rear end for offroad touring. Check it out:
The Monkey Lab: Twenty2 Cycles Belt Drive Rohloff 29+
From my last bikepacking trip, lunch stop.
Re: Post your Bikepacking Rig (and gear layout!)
Looks like florida ?
Originally Posted by SuPrBuGmAn
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Apalachicola National Forest You must have recognized that pine tree.
Originally Posted by murf99
Getting the word out about a Threadless stem shifter adapter I have been working on. Here is a pic of it on my Krampus. I am building up a ECR this next week and will post a better picture of the shifter on a bike that it is designed for. I will hopefully be bringing these to market in the next 6 months or so. They will work with loads of vintage down tube shifters along with all Shimano bar ends and most Taiwan style thumb shifters. The whole adapter will be made in the USA.Click image for larger version. Name: Stem shifter.Attachment 861924
The new Mukluk in winter bikepacking mode.
My ECR almost done.
Is anyone rockin' Thule's new pack n pedal product? I know it wouldn't handle huge trips but I work at a shop and would love to see if anyone has their hands on it and can provide feedback. I have a full suspension 29er, I was looking pretty close at using their new rear rack (seen here: Thule Pack â€™n Pedal Tour Rack - Thule). I am using one on my commuter currently.. but I haven't started looking into bike packing just recently. I would love to see some pictures if anyone does.
The qbp rep showed us all that stuff a while back and its good stuff for sure. I would say the quality is close to ortilieb.
Post your Bikepacking Rig (and gear layout!)
The rack was acquired from a New Zealand company and was called Freeride prior to 2013. Many folks down under use this rack for bikepacking with great success. Whether Thule's version is as tough is a question I have had. I am planning to get one to switch between commuter and bikepacker riding as my OMM won't fit my 29ers...