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    Make Your Own Bikepacking gear

    Just finished my first frame pack and it is harder than it looks and I learned a lot, made a few mistakes but hey thats part of learning.
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    First Bag

    Hey there BikePackingDude,
    Yea it can get a little tricky in some areas. Cool thing about sewing is that you can undo most of what went wrong and try again without to much damage to the material. Yea, keep it up, the more you put these things together the better you become at it and the easier it gets. Time for you to make a Handlebar pack and then a Seat Pack. Put up some pics if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikepackingdude View Post
    Just finished my first frame pack and it is harder than it looks and I learned a lot, made a few mistakes but hey thats part of learning.
    While tough, it gives you a great feeling of accomplishment when you're done and use your bag, doesn't it? It definitely gives you a better feel for what bag makers go through with every bag. Doing exactly the same thing is how I got started making bags for other people and now it's what I do almost every day.

    Like T-Man... I'd like to see a photo or two.

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    Yeah it was a fun project and I am going to make a handlebar bag and a seat bag this winter. I am trying to post a photo but it wont upload, I am a dork with no computer skills at all lol. I will post it on my blog
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    here it is finally!
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    ... and if we just ...

    Dude.... it looks good. What material did you use? In the photo, it looks like a softshell material of some sort. Let us know how it works out for you.

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    Thank you 1 Speed. I did use some soft shell material for the flat parts that hit the frame and on the bottom of the hook and loop (velcro) and the main body of the pack I used 1000d Cordura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikepackingdude View Post
    Thank you 1 Speed. I did use some soft shell material for the flat parts that hit the frame and on the bottom of the hook and loop (velcro) and the main body of the pack I used 1000d Cordura.
    Nice clean looking bag !
    And your dog looks like it's begging to go outside...

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    Love the helper too. My helper is a cat... she loves to lay on the fabric the second it hits a flat surface. Looks like it fits well. I'm curious about how the softshell material holds up, especially where it rubs bottle mounts and cable stops. There's way more vibration in a frame bag than you'd expect.

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    No he was tired and wanting to in the house we did a ride in the morning. I am curious about the soft shell material myself I will let you know how it holds up
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    Great thread with good discussion.

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    Make Your Own Bikepacking gear

    Anybody ever make a sleeping bag?
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    Make Your Own Bikepacking gear

    Make your own bikepacking gear? Bike bags? Tarps?

    Share them here!

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    Not directly bikepacking related, but. . .

    Here is a hack that I did with a CO2 pump so that you can store the cartridge inside the body

    Here is my attempt at some "power grip" style pedalsThis honestly didn't work all that great but ehh it might inspire someone. . .

    I would love to make a frame bag and rack as well. hopefully sooner rather than later.

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    OT, but do you have any pics of your diy bags dream4est? Especially interested in your seat bag.

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    I made this seat bag as a dry bag "holster" Per Jerry W's plans at:

    Full DIY Bikepacking Kit

    As far as I know, it is the first bag made to work with a dropper post and get full drop without any tire rub on a full suspension frame. As pictured it clears at full compression fully dropped 5" (KS i950r).

    The differences from Jerrys drawings/pics are:

    Cut the side panels smaller to keep holster closer to saddle.
    Spilt velcro at front and placed high around seat post clamp are to avoid limiting full travel of post.
    The extra nylon strap of top cam buckle was left long, wrapped around saddle rails and back onto itself with velcro attachment.
    Extra strap/cam buckle not attached to holster that pulls dry bag to saddle. It is the grey strap in pic.

    The extra strap and extra length top cam buckle strap are needed to hold the bag in place as you cant use a post wrap front velcro attachment (like the single wrap on the Pika or the double wrap on the Viscacha) or the post will only drop an inch or two and the bag will be too low in design so it would rub the tire at full compression even if you could get the post to drop all the way "through" the velcro.

    Like JerryW I am using multiple sizes of dry bags to fit the intented application. Pictured is the medium bag rolled up with a smallish load.

    Total weight with dry bag and extra strap is 7.5 oz. Cost me about $8 to make if that. Volume fully loaded is about Pika level.
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    Here is the rest.

    Frame bag is bolted to water bottle mounts and has a shock cord top tube mount. Super wide 3.5" flange, foam frame and mini cordura side rub panels. 4.5 oz
    Gas Tank is your basic gas tank. 1.8oz
    Faux harness is a stem bag in the shape of a beret that mounts to stem and has a nylon strap for front lower dry bag. Bag and dry bag weigh 4oz
    Upper front dry bag is kind of like a stuffable reverse harness. Twin nylon cam buckle straps mount it to lower dry bag and bars sandwiching cables in between. 3.5oz

    Material is black polyester, grey and orange silicone coated ripstop, blue cheap waterproof coated nylon and a little cordura in rub spots. Super light bags but hey I made them for AZT and CTR and I saved 1.25 lbs over the usual suspects gear.

    The point here is that while the guys who make the expensive stuff are worth every penny (the time involved is significant, a point that cannot be overlooked here), the bags cannot be dialed in to your bike with alterations and IMO dont feel perfect. Good but not an extension of my bike. IMO most of us should just bust out a cheap sewing machine (borrow your aunt's) and go to town. You will remember 8th grade all over again!
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    Hmmm, my saddle bag is based on the same design, but it likes to wobble all over when I have just my clothes in it (not more than 4 pounds, and deff smaller than the pica). Did you use any plastic stiffeners like Jerry? I did, and am wondering if that was a mistake. Thanks for the pics!

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    Fotooutdoors I would add the extra straps like I did. Mine went all over the place too, until I wrapped the top buckle strap around the seat rails and velcroed back onto itself at its base on the lower flap ( and then added the extra strap to tuck the bag hard into the rails). You might get by with just the second strap but I was getting side to side play until I did the first mod correctly-if you look I pull the strap around the front right seat rail, over to the left and around that, and then back to itself and velcro. The bag juts out to the right side (viewing from rear of bike), you then pull it back left to secure velcro. Real tight if you do it right and snug it at each step of the process.

    With a little practice I can get the top buckle strap off the seat rail, unbuckle the cam and be in the dry bag fast with the dry bag still snug to the seat rails with the second strap. Total access to the back half of the dry bag.

    edit- I did use plastic stiffeners. I just dont think Jerrys original strap design is enough to hold the bag tight. Once a little play develops the sway is pronounced.

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    Lookin' good buddy!
    They'll only get better from here on out :thumbup:

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    Hey fotooutdoors here is another view of the bag with a bigger load. I used a black strap instead of the grey in previous pix to be the floating strap that tucks the bag into the rails. You can see my extra length of top cam buckle strap better as well. With the bigger load I just wrap it around the back seat rails simple style and back onto itself. The setup is bomber!! I can even go bigger than this with no movement at all.

    Good luck with your bag. I am sure you will tighten it up. My way is probably just an example.
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    I like the seat bag that is going to be my next project
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikepackingdude View Post
    I like the seat bag that is going to be my next project
    Same, that and a handlebar mount for a dry bag of similar design. The handlebar mount might come first simply because it's easier to do though :P

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    Some cool diy stuff in here...

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    Took a shot at making some credit card touring bags for the road rig. Kind of a pain, but kind of fun too. Now onto the MTB frame bag, gas tank, and seatbag.

    Merry Christmas everyone!!


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    i like those... nice work!

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    Great ideas here...right into what I am looking to do. Awesome stuff

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    Lots of good stuff in here!
    Here is my take on the SeatPak



    Lighter and simpler

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    That looks really good !
    More pics please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    That looks really good !
    More pics please.
    Thanks!
    Alright, here's are couple more: Weighed today in this config @ 220 grams, or .49 lbs

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    Underside daisy chain


    Internal. Red fabric is housing the plastic spine


    Side. Approx 14/15 litre capacity after rolling the end a min of 3 times
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    wow that's actually pretty awesome.... I do sewing on the side for tactical stuff...I definitely will look into making a few bags for my bikepacking rig so that I don't depend on my USGI stuff

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    Very cool dude that is what I need for sure! Your stuff is so cool I am alway in awe
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    I am about to start work on 2nd versions of my bags. I made my front drybag system work with cables run above the drybag without a traditional harness. Previously I was running cables around the bag. The system works both ways now. No foam bumpers or spacers just a small velcro strap for the cables. Cables dont bunch or bind. Now on to a second version with a higher quality materials (VX21).
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    Nice. I just started to pursue a handlebar 'burrito' style bag myself


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    I started a new thread here but was asked to copy it on this thread. So, here it is.

    Hi all,

    I made my own frame bag over the holidays and wanted to share my results. Thank you to those that previously posted about how they built theirs - hopefully someone finds my info helpful as well.

    The full write up is here on my blog (Bike Frame Bag Construction).



    This was a learning experience that I really enjoyed - particularly since I was doing the work inside the toasty warm house while the outside temps were less than toasty!

    I used Cordura 1000D and I think it was a good pick. I'm no expert and time will tell but it "feels" pretty good in terms of weight and strength.

    Now I'm onto a couple more accessories for a season of bikepacking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomegrownMN View Post
    Here is my take on the SeatPak
    This is VERY NICE HomeGrownMN! I think one of these is next on my list. Kinda scarey as it looks to be many orders of magnitude more complex than a frame bag. Thanks for sharing your photos!

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    1000D cordura is more than good enough! I use it myself for ammo pouches, and it is sturdier than the older LBE pack material that is looking good!

    the only worry is the strength of stitching and thread; I hope you used a #18 needle and a thread rated "Heavy Duty" ? (or at least 69 pounds tensile strength) for stitch strength with 1000D; somewhere between 2 mm and 3mm straight line stitch length should be strong enough. (similar to USGI spec for pack stitching) and double stitching as well....as for zig zags, I can't remember offhand the specs needed for the maximum strength...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNM View Post
    This is VERY NICE HomeGrownMN! I think one of these is next on my list. Kinda scarey as it looks to be many orders of magnitude more complex than a frame bag. Thanks for sharing your photos!
    Thanks.
    It is as complex as a frame bag and possibly more. Don't worry, you're seeing the 5th version Lots of prototyping here

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    Can a saddle bag handle, pair of size 12 shoes and a helmet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogii View Post
    Can a saddle bag handle, pair of size 12 shoes and a helmet?
    Shoes inside for sure. I've done it commuting with my work/riding shoes.
    Helmet, not inside. But can easily be strapped on top/off the back and made to work

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    Bracket I made to hold my pump water filter. It could also be used for a cook kit(cup/stove/propane) or an oversized water bottle.



    Uses bottle cage mounts to bolt to the frame Its way overbuilt with aluminum 3/16"x3/4" spine and 1/8" bands, foam to cushion the contents and velcro straps attached by speedy rivets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoDeafie View Post
    the only worry is the strength of stitching and thread; I hope you used a #18 needle and a thread rated "Heavy Duty" ? (or at least 69 pounds tensile strength) for stitch strength with 1000D; somewhere between 2 mm and 3mm straight line stitch length should be strong enough.
    Wow! That is more like chord! I used T70 thread from RockyWoods.com which, according to their website, is rated at 11 lbs tensile strength. I think I could run a bit heavier thread thru my machine but not THAT heavy!! :-) Sounds like I probably used a heavier than necessary fabric.

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    Finishing up some gear for my wife and I for our TNGA trip next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNM View Post
    Wow! That is more like chord! I used T70 thread from RockyWoods.com which, according to their website, is rated at 11 lbs tensile strength. I think I could run a bit heavier thread thru my machine but not THAT heavy!! :-) Sounds like I probably used a heavier than necessary fabric.

    excuse me. my honest mistake, I kept thinking Size 69 (or govt size E) is 69# (probably has to do with fishing line being rated as weight....)

    I just looked up Nylon 69 specs and indeed it is rated at 11 pounds tensile; so basically your thread is correct for the material!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoDeafie View Post
    excuse me. my honest mistake, I kept thinking Size 69 (or govt size E) is 69# (probably has to do with fishing line being rated as weight....)

    I just looked up Nylon 69 specs and indeed it is rated at 11 pounds tensile; so basically your thread is correct for the material!
    No worries. Good to hear that I was using the right thread - even the losers get lucky sometimes! :-)

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    Something different...

    This is not the place to discuss gun control/laws/feelings/opinions. I don't even own a sidearm fwiw. Ok.

    This is a piece for an L.E.O that likes to carry his sidearm whilst biking/commuting.
    A little departure from the norm, but I know there are plenty here and elsewhere that
    either have the permits to carry or are required to carry in the backcountry. (aka Alaska)
    The hard part is making this somewhat 'universal' since I don't have the bike here. After some contemplation I decided the MOLLE system would be perfect and adaptable. It's padded with ~.25" of closed cell foam and has a water-resistant, but easy to open zipper.
    Here you are:





    MOLLE





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    that is a nice idea indeed; but my concern now is the velcro concept....what I would go for would be the LEO duty belt keepers; they include a line 24 snap button that will hold the weight better than just velcro; and this will help if the velcro should fail... otherwise, your pouch looks pretty good!
    where it is legal to open carry, people do so, even on bicycles; I have seen more than a few examples of sidearms on bicycles; mostly on the belt of the person riding, sometimes attached to the handlebars; and then there is the rifle rigs I've seen on hunters who uses MTBs for hunting rather than hiking....most commonly I see them with the ATV handlebar rack holding a rifle across the handlebar; they usually are paired with a small trailer to carry the meat out, as well as panniers to balance out the handling from what I've seen... I personally think an older style of scabbard parallel to the fork would be a better system as it brings weight down closer to center of gravity; but it might not be workable for those who have suspension forks. gun laws/control discussion is not to be brought up here I agree.

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    Looks perfectly suitable for stashing stuff other than a handgun. A pair of them would have more capacity than a fuel tank, I think. No interference with pedaling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoDeafie View Post
    that is a nice idea indeed; but my concern now is the velcro concept....what I would go for would be the LEO duty belt keepers; they include a line 24 snap button that will hold the weight better than just velcro
    To be honest. I think the MOLLE stitching would fail before the velcro came undone. As long as you get a good wrap around, it's amazingly strong.

    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    Looks perfectly suitable for stashing other stuff other than a handgun. A pair of them would have more capacity than a fuel tank, I think. No interference with pedaling?
    You are correct on uses other than a sidearm. This one was specifically for that purpose though. Not sure on capacity, but it'd be close.
    No interference whilst pedaling around the neighborhood. I could see potential issues if one were standing and hammering on a climb, but I'm guessing the user isn't standing and climbing much.

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    hmm interesting. I see that you have double stitched the MOLLE webbing; I know there is a product that is rather expensive, but would be excellent for two of these pouches; its Tactical Tailor's MALICE clip; it requires the use of a screwdriver or tool to undo; basically a 1" wide X 3-5" long Zip Tie.

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