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    Bikepacking hammocks

    I've noticed that hammocks are very popular with those that like to bikepack and those that like to stealth camp as part of their tours. Hopefully this part of the forum is a good place to ask my question.

    I notice that only the Hennessy models are reviewed, used or talked about. I'm just curious in wondering if anyone has used or uses a Clark Jungle hammock instead?
    http://www.junglehammock.com/models/...ican/index.php

    Weights are similar, size, etc. One is more tent like in entrance. I'm going to be purchasing a hammock and would appreciate any input. Thanks.
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    You might google ENO hammocks as well (Eagle Nest Outfitters) never used mine bike packing but did sleep on it all over Iraq. Its modular in design, a three part system; hammock, bug net, rain fly, so you can just bring what you need for your given conditions.

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    I use a Hennessy and enjoy it, although I didn't have any exposure to other hammock types and bought what I could find at the time.

    There's quite a few reviews and discussions about the various hammock types over at hammockforums.net, although it is very hard to find any information relative to bikepacking there (most of the peeps are backpackers, although they do have very similar concerns).

    Also, check out bikepacking.net to see what other bikepackers are using to sleep, although it is again a bit difficult because not many are on hammocks over there.

    Hope this helps.

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    Thanks to you all for responding. I neglected to mention that I have researched bikepacking.net already and am active there. I have now checked out hammockforums.net and there is a decent amount of info but not all of it works for bicycling. Crazyguyonabike also has some info.
    I keep hearing about the weight and cost of the Hennessy being primary factors but the Clark is just as light (some models lighter) and cost is pretty much a wash. Both the Hennessy and the Clark have some nice attributes. Warbonnet, Speer and others seem less developed to me and what I'm reading or maybe they are just no frills, get the job done simplified. Its all good though. All your help has opened up some nice new reading for a cold day and helped broaden my options.
    In the end I might just go with a Tarptent, or maybe both. I've already got a nice light BA tent though and for some uses the hammock seems perfect. I've got time to figure it out.
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    I'll never spend another night on the ground if I can help it. Takes some getting use to, but once you get it right it's worth it.

    The Warbonnet is a great hammock, don't write it off too quick. I love mine, and couldn't imagine calling it a "no frills" hammock. The foot box and shelf are pretty nice features and the fact it can be set up easily doesn't hurt either.
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    I have both a Blackbird Warbonnet hammock and a Henry Shires Tarptent. I prefer the comfort of the Warbonnet, but if I am in a desert situation or where suitable trees are not available, I will take the HS tent. Total weight is slightly less with the hammock, but they are close enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho View Post
    Thanks to you all for responding. I neglected to mention that I have researched bikepacking.net already and am active there. I have now checked out hammockforums.net and there is a decent amount of info but not all of it works for bicycling. Crazyguyonabike also has some info.
    I keep hearing about the weight and cost of the Hennessy being primary factors but the Clark is just as light (some models lighter) and cost is pretty much a wash. Both the Hennessy and the Clark have some nice attributes. Warbonnet, Speer and others seem less developed to me and what I'm reading or maybe they are just no frills, get the job done simplified. Its all good though. All your help has opened up some nice new reading for a cold day and helped broaden my options.
    In the end I might just go with a Tarptent, or maybe both. I've already got a nice light BA tent though and for some uses the hammock seems perfect. I've got time to figure it out.
    What makes you think other models are no-frills?

    I have hung with folks at hammockforums.net and have seen Hennesseys, Clarks, Speers, Warbonnets, Grand Trunks, home-sewn, and I hang in an ENO. None of them are "no frills" to be completely honest with you. "no frills" is sleeping in the dirt with a wool blanket a-la 1850.

    the great thing about hammocks is the ease of customization. You can change the entire suspension setup simple. I hang my ENO Doublenest on whoopie slings made from 7/64" Amsteel blue and tree straps. I also have an Amsteel structural ridgeline to ensure a perfect hang every time. I use a Warbonnet Traveler bug net when I need bug protection (the ENO bug net sucks), and I can sleep under any tarp I choose.

    Hennessey, Warbonnet, and others have integrated hammock-bugnet systems that reduce the amount of material. They're slick.

    There are gathered-end hammocks and bridge hammocks that offer a different style of lay. The only difference is personal preference.

    You only notice Hennesseys more because they're popular. If you spent more than an hour at hammockforums, you'd realize that your assessment of hammocks is incomplete.

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    My experience may be an anomaly but my ENO only lasted maybe 6 months until it ripped one day when I got in it and got dumped on the ground. Luckily just soft grass.

    I still need to get another hammock as I loved it.

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    I have found Tenth Wonder hammocks on ebay the look very well designed and I am thinking of getting one. The Hornet model Im looking at have 3 layers and have a bug net that is lifted up by poles. Has any one heard of them or used them.

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    I've got a Hennessy hammock. It's useful for certain situations where trees are plentiful and you don't want to sleep on the ground, but they aren't particularly light or compact and given the need for insulation under the hammock in cool climates I think a light 1 man tent is going to give it a run for it's money in space/weight. If you can split a 2 man tent with a friend you'll definitely be ahead in those areas compared to 2 Hennessy hammocks.

    Ultralite Backpacker Asym Classic: Product Specs -- Hennessy Hammock

    I haven't tried any other brands of hammock.

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    For shelters I have a bivy sack, hammock and 2 pers ultralight tent. I grab whichever makes the most sense for as given trip. My last bikepacking trip I used the bivy.
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    I have a speer type hammock that I made myself, and I string a tarp over it. Works great. Much more comfortable than sleeping on the ground. Easy to set up if I just want to catch a nap in the hot part of the afternoon.

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    love my ENO double....
    carry the tarp and bugnet only if needed...
    hammockforums.net is a great site for info
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I've got a Hennessy hammock. It's useful for certain situations where trees are plentiful and you don't want to sleep on the ground, but they aren't particularly light or compact and given the need for insulation under the hammock in cool climates I think a light 1 man tent is going to give it a run for it's money in space/weight. If you can split a 2 man tent with a friend you'll definitely be ahead in those areas compared to 2 Hennessy hammocks.

    Ultralite Backpacker Asym Classic: Product Specs -- Hennessy Hammock

    I haven't tried any other brands of hammock.

    The Lazy Randonneur: Search results for hennessy

    For shelters I have a bivy sack, hammock and 2 pers ultralight tent. I grab whichever makes the most sense for as given trip. My last bikepacking trip I used the bivy.
    I will take a small increase in overall weight to have a more comfortable night's sleep anytime. Hammocks for me are not about shedding weight. They are about getting quality sleep.

    A more efficient way to handle 2 hammocks would be to sleep under one tarp. i've seen several ways to do this, but the easiest would be to string up the hammocks side-by-side. I have seen them stacked before, also.

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    I hav an ENO double, it's held up geat so far. Bike have not bikepacked with it yet. This summer I hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I will take a small increase in overall weight to have a more comfortable night's sleep anytime. Hammocks for me are not about shedding weight. They are about getting quality sleep.
    I haven't found a night in my Hennessy hammock to be any better than a night in a tent. I sleep fine in either one.
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    If you can sleep decently on the ground, especially without a pad, then you can come up with a tent/tarp system that is lighter than a hammock. I doubt anyone is in the mood to argue that. For me, I just sleep a lot better in the hammock, and maybe the whole homemade hammock setup weighs 1 lb more than a really expensive tent/dirtsleeping setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I haven't found a night in my Hennessy hammock to be any better than a night in a tent. I sleep fine in either one.
    then consider yourself lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    then consider yourself lucky
    Indeed, I've met people like that, but it is definitely the exception. I've heard regularly practicing yoga really helps one to sleep anywhere on anything quite comfortably. I just haven't gotten around to testing that yet.

    I guess hammocking in warm weather you don't have to deal with a pad either.

    I have a Nemo backpacking 2man tent as well for when a hammock isn't practical.

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    I have a Hennessy Asym and love it. I have a tendency to sleep on my side and it's a heck of a lot more comfortable than any cot, or pad. 3 minutes to set up and take down. Best piece of camping gear I've bought in 10 years.
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    Make sure you can sleep well in a hammock before spending a bunch of money on a fancy one. I have an ENO double I've tried to camp with on numerous occasions and for me, it's less comfortable than sleeping on bare ground. I've had my ENO for 5 years now and it's held up to my big frame (6'5", 250+). I use it almost daily in the summer on my porch.
    Just saying, hammocks seem like a great idea, but they're not for everyone...

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    I just use a cheap fold-away nylon hammock I bought at wal-mart. Works like a charm. I can sleep all day in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironchefjon View Post
    I just use a cheap fold-away nylon hammock I bought at wal-mart. Works like a charm. I can sleep all day in it.
    We have way too many biting, flying things here to get away without netting.

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    A mosquito bar (net) is inexpensive, and you can spray the body of the hammock with a permethrin solution. I forget the commercial brand name of that stuff right now. But, yeah, bugs are a hassle, and prolly moreso with a hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridemtn View Post
    We have way too many biting, flying things here to get away without netting.

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    Oh, believe me, we have enough skeeters, black flies and horse flies to go around here in Maine. I usually I put on a healthy coating of bug spray and wrap the hammock around me. Buying a mosquito net never crossed my mind, but that's a good idea. I usually always keep a rip-roaring fire going as well, and that seems to help with the bugs.
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    mosquitohammock.com

    Best non-biking kit I own. On the CT, it was completely covered with hundreds of mosquitos trying to get me and none did. I was happy and comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    My experience may be an anomaly but my ENO only lasted maybe 6 months until it ripped one day when I got in it and got dumped on the ground. Luckily just soft grass.

    I still need to get another hammock as I loved it.
    Finally got around to sending my ENO in and they warrantied it. I got a new one coming in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    Finally got around to sending my ENO in and they warrantied it. I got a new one coming in!
    good to hear. I haven't had any trouble with mine. I HAVE had tree straps pull apart in the past and send me to the ground, but never with the hammock.

    and I dearly love my Amsteel whoopie slings

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    I switch between a hammock/underquilt/tarp set up and just a bivy/tarp set up. Just depends on the mood I guess...


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    That was a crazy windy night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trail_junkie View Post
    I'll never spend another night on the ground if I can help it. Takes some getting use to, but once you get it right it's worth it.

    The Warbonnet is a great hammock, don't write it off too quick. I love mine, and couldn't imagine calling it a "no frills" hammock. The foot box and shelf are pretty nice features and the fact it can be set up easily doesn't hurt either.
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    I have the Warbonnet Blackbird DL 1.1, and just got a new Dangerbird from Randy at DreamHammock.com. Both are awesome hammocks, and nice and light. I have an ENO doublenest that I take sometimes to lounge in on day rides, or one of the many hammocks I have made myself.
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    Anyone tried a Byer? I ran into this one at REI the other day. I was about to pop for a hennessy exped asym zip but saw that this is much cheaper and decided to hold off...
    Anyone?
    Byer Moskito Traveller Hammock at REI.com

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    have not used the byer, but it looks promising, and the price is right.

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    Not a fan of the Byer myself. I have tried every company, and owned 90% of them. IMO, there is no better hammock than the Waronnet Blackbird right now. Brandon (Warbonnet owner) is a real cool guy too...
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    I like the byer mosquito hammock. I've had it for about 4 years now, and never had a problem with it. I'm a big guy at 6'2" @ 210 lbs and i've been very comfortable. However, I do own an eno doublenest deluxe and its way more comfortable, but doesn't have a bug net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpka View Post
    Anyone tried a Byer? I ran into this one at REI the other day. I was about to pop for a hennessy exped asym zip but saw that this is much cheaper and decided to hold off...
    Anyone?
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    I have one. It's okay. Because it's so light, it's not the most durable option out there.

    Also, the netting only covers the top. Your underside is unprotected. Expect many bugbites on your backside in the morning.

    The ENO is SUPPOSED to not have a bug net, so you can use a separate one when you want one. I use a Warbonnet Traveler bug net, as I mentioned before. I like this system since the bug net protects my underside, also.

    I love my cotton Byer Amazonas for the yard, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    Also, the netting only covers the top. Your underside is unprotected. Expect many bugbites on your backside in the morning.
    little bit of this ought to do the trick, if you are okay with chemicals.
    Sawyer Permethrin Pump Spray - 24 oz. at REI.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    little bit of this ought to do the trick, if you are okay with chemicals.
    Sawyer Permethrin Pump Spray - 24 oz. at REI.com
    I dunno what planet you come from but IME permethrin is only any good for ticks. Useless for flying insects because it is a contact insecticide, not a repellent. Not enough contact time for skeeters

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    As mentioned previously the ENO hammocks are fantastic. I have ENO's double which is very comfortable for one person. I don't have any of the ENO accessories like the rain tarp or bug net, I sourced those separately to save money. The quality of the hammock is really great, I don't know how others in the industry could surpass the quality, it seems like they have reached the pinnacle of what a hammock can be.

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    I am completely new to hammocks and think i want to give it a try.
    Has anybody got any experiences with these : DD Hammocks - Camping & Travel Hammocks & tarps, Jungle Hammocks ?
    They have a bugnet and are nicely priced and since i will be using it maybe 3 times a year i thought these could be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I dunno what planet you come from but IME permethrin is only any good for ticks. Useless for flying insects because it is a contact insecticide, not a repellent. Not enough contact time for skeeters
    Same planet, I think.
    "This insect-killing repellent for your clothing is effective against ticks, chiggers, mites and mosquitoes for up to six weeks."
    Word on the streets is that they land on it and take off again right away, rather than sticking around and biting. But it sounds like your experience is otherwise.
    Mosquito Net Permethrin (Camping & Outdoor Equipment / Mosquito nets, netting and repellents / Insect Netting BedNets)

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    Don't bother with the chemicals, all you need is a double layer hammock...


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    Thank's for the link.
    I think i am going to try one of these in the near future : Proforce Jungle Hammock -- Barre Army/Navy Store Online Store
    It's big (i'm 6'5) and can hold 400pounds (i'm260)
    And the price is right as well.
    Since it will be my first go at this, i don't want to spend to much.

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    For any netting-equipped hammock, the bug netting will cut down on air circulation a lot more than you might expect. Any time there are not bugs, you can flip the hammock over to allow more airflow. This may require modifying the netting support lines so that you can detach and reattach them.

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    How much restriction is there compared to a small 1 person tent ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    How much restriction is there compared to a small 1 person tent ?
    Depends on what you mean by restriction. When it comes to finding places to camp, there is MUCH less restriction. You will find so many places that you could never put a tent, and you will get a better nights rest. As far as space, well, you are enclosed in a hammock. You can move around and all that, but it will be different than sitting on the ground. This is where your tarp will come into play. If you use a tarp with built in "doors" on the end, like a Warbonnet Superfly or a HammockGear Cuben four season, you have plenty of room to move around underneath with complete privacy. One thing you will love is waking up in the morning and being able to just swing your legs out and automatically be sitting in a chair. Cook your breakfast and get ready for the day! Hammock camping is the best


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    Thank's for the answer, but i was actually refering to the previous post on air circulation.

    Your info is apreciated, but i already knew most of it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    Thank's for the answer, but i was actually refering to the previous post on air circulation.

    Your info is apreciated, but i already knew most of it though.
    Ah well in that case, there would be different variables involved, same with a tent. How close you have your tarp set to the ground, whether you set the tarp up in "porch mode", whether you even bother to use the tarp...etc etc. you have a lot more options with tarp set up than with a fixed rain fly of a tent. Some tents have vents on the ends to help with airflow, some don't.


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    Air circulation in a hammock with a bug net would be better than in a one-man tent. Plus, in warm weather, you would sleep without a pad and would have air underneath you cooling you off. It makes a big difference down here when you are trying to sleep with an overnight low around 80 degrees.

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    Is there anyway to sit in a Hennessy Expid Asym classic as a normal hammock?

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