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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Was beginning to shop prices on an Alfine 8 hub to have a rear wheel built with a WTB i25 rim. This will initially go on my Inbred 29er for bikepacking/dirt & gravel touring. Might also use it for road touring on my Pompetamine.

    Then I started to see stuff online about the NuVinci hub. It is heavier than an Alfine but has that whole CVP shifting concept.

    Anyone have recent experience with either? I know there are other mtbr threads on the NuVinci but none real recent.

    BTW, I was leaning toward the Alfine 8 vs an 11 because it sounds like the 8 has a record of reliability, whereas that is not necessarily the case with the 11.

    Thanks for any insights.

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    I like the N360 on my Krampus I'm using for some local bike packing. I'm way under gearing it and so far it's holding up fine. I think I'd trust it on a longer trip. You might look in the IGH area if you haven't already; "no love for the n360" or something similar is a recent thread.


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    I have 5yrs on two Alfine 8's and 1 yr on an Alfine 11 [photo above]. They were all used for mountain biking and bikepacking - as well as winter snow use and beach use.

    I run a 32T x 23T on all of them and that's decent low gear.
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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Will probably go with an Alfine 8, since Vik has had good luck with his and I really respect his insights.

    I didn't even think of the IGH forum, so I will do some checking over there, too. Thanks!

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    The N360 is an awesome hub and if you can live with the limited range, weight, and that goofy shifter it would work swell for bikepacking. I would definitely choose one over and Shimano IGH. IMO the Shimanos never work better then mediocre and require more maintance.

    I know it gets said a lot but I wish Nuvinci would step up and make a hub to compete with the Euros. Either that or Shimano could get away form the spring loaded shifting. OR, Sram could polish up the Dual Drive. That idea has some merit.

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    I have 2 A8's that have seen all sorts of abuse from months of beach camping to 2 Calgary winters and now they live on the Wet Coast. I've never maintained either IGH and they have worked like champs the whole time.

    I opened the one I abused the most [from my Pugsley] this year and it looked perfect inside [photo above] so I didn't even bother cleaning it.

    Inspecting my Shimano Alfine 8 IGH? | The Lazy Rando Blog...

    I did replace the shift cable and housing once on each IGH and I generally replace the $16 8 spd SRAM chains ~once a year.
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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Great. I think that's the route I will take.

    Hoping to have a wheel I can run 2.4's on my steel 29er Inbred bikepacker and, perhaps, 700x35C (or so) cross tires on my steel Pompetamine for dirt/gravel road touring. I think 35C is the widest I can go on the Pompetamine, but this might be too narrow of a tire for a WTB i23 or i23 rim (my preferred MTB rim)? I am not sure but checking on this.

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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Meant i23 or i25 rim...

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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Shiggy, can I get your thoughts on whether an i23 or i25 rim will let me run 2.3-4s on my 29er bikepacking Inbred and also some sort of 35C cross tire for dirt/gravel road touring on my Pompetamine? I think 35C is the biggest tire that will fit in the Pomp, and I am wondering if this is too narrow to run on the WTB rim. (I have two 29er wheelsets running tubeless on i23 rims, and I am really pleased with their performance.)

    Thanks for any insights.

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    2013 Surly Karate Monkey

    i have had my Alfine 8 for about a year now and i love it after i got my gearing dialed in, i generally use it for commuting and small bikepacking trips. i rode a NuVinci on a fat bike and i really didn't like the grip shift that was my whole reason i got the alfine 8 cause it had a trigger shifter and if i wanted to get a drop bar i could get a internal drop bar lever too!

    *i shall upload my picture when iphoto updates.

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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    I ordered an Alfine 8 today and will have Steve at SRLPE build me a wheel with a WTB UST rim. (Steve is great and has built me 4 sets of bombproof wheels in recent years!)

    Can't wait to get it running on my steel 29er Inbred. It's an old frame with slot dropouts, a Fargo fork and a homemade frame bag -- will be perfect for bikepacking!

    BTW, I got a great price on the hub from Modern Bike. Have gotten great prices and service from them lately.

    I also discovered this blog today -- will make for some great reading -- as I aspire to ride the Great Divide in the next few years:

    http://phatdivide.wordpress.com/

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    picture is here! working on a flickr!
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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Nice bike! As for the shifters, I once had some grip shifters on an older commuter. They drove me crazy with ghost shifting when I was reefing on the bar/grips. Glad to be looking at a trigger shifter with the Alfine.

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    thanks! i'm setting up a flicker now so i shall post the link and you can take a closer look!

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    Alfine 8 vs NuVinci N360 for bikepacking

    Sounds good.

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