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    The 500-Mile Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route

    A preview of some bikepacking goodness in Central Idaho:

    Bike Touring Special: The 500-Mile Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route | adventure journal

    Maps will be available this autumn.
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    Now this looks good!

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    Casey I enjoy reading your blog have been watching it for more info after your recon trip. Really liked the fire lookout tours as well. Keep posting, always a good read.

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    This route really excited me last year and I've been waiting for ACA to issue the maps. I've checked their web site and there's no new information on it. Does anyone have any beta on when the maps/final route info will be available? Some discussions made it appear that everything was finalized and they just need to print the maps.

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    Casey has been posting on bike packing.net. Sounds like the maps should be out real soon. There is a map on bikepacking., but it is not detailed. I will be riding it in late July with friends. Since we are both in New England, you could drive out with me if you are interested. I will also be on my Fargo. Harry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryonaspot View Post
    Casey has been posting on bike packing.net. Sounds like the maps should be out real soon. There is a map on bikepacking., but it is not detailed. I will be riding it in late July with friends. Since we are both in New England, you could drive out with me if you are interested. I will also be on my Fargo. Harry
    Thanx's for the update on the maps and also the offer for riding. My schedule would be to ride in in early Sept, but thanx's for the ride offer. Hopefully you'll post back after your ride and let us know how awesome the route is.

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    I've been waiting for maps to come out for a while. Looks great. I've been looking for a route like this to get my GF into longer tours with some payoff along the way. I can't think of a better reward than a hotspring.
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    I'll post that map here too.

    We've been having some issues with our printer - nothing big, just trying to make everything perfect - that has cause the latest round of delays. We should have the maps sent off within the next week. Which means we should have them on shelves by late-feb, at the dead latest. The webpage should be up around the same time.

    Thanks everyone for your patience.

    Here's some more info on the route, including when to plan a trip for: Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route Q&A | Adventure Cycling Association

    ps. Vik, I'm about an inch away from getting a Krampus. You still diggin' yours for loaded trips?

    The 500-Mile Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route-backcover_idhsmbr_1.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by flumphboy View Post
    ps. Vik, I'm about an inch away from getting a Krampus. You still diggin' yours for loaded trips?
    Thanks for the map Casey.

    Ya love the Krampus. Got it pretty much dialled in for touring. No regrets buying one last year. It's great for exploring.

    Since you can run a "normal" 2.4" 29er tire on it you really aren't into anything too specialized if you want to skip the Knards for a particular trip.
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    The maps have been sent to the printer. We will have them on-shelves in roughly 3 weeks.

    If you are super eager to have them in your hands, please purchase them as soon as they are available. I have a slight feeling that the-powers-that-be did not order enough, and we will run out of stock fast. I'll post here right when we get them in.

    (ps. Thanks, Vik!)
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    Thanx's for the heads up. I'll be watching everyday, multiple times a day. I agree with you, this route will be a hot item.

    Attaboy's to everyone involved, but especially you Casey,

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    The 500-Mile Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route

    This is now added to my bucket list...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flumphboy View Post
    The maps have been sent to the printer. We will have them on-shelves in roughly 3 weeks.

    If you are super eager to have them in your hands, please purchase them as soon as they are available. I have a slight feeling that the-powers-that-be did not order enough, and we will run out of stock fast. I'll post here right when we get them in.

    (ps. Thanks, Vik!)
    Tick for updates on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flumphboy View Post
    The maps have been sent to the printer. We will have them on-shelves in roughly 3 weeks.

    If you are super eager to have them in your hands, please purchase them as soon as they are available. I have a slight feeling that the-powers-that-be did not order enough, and we will run out of stock fast. I'll post here right when we get them in.

    (ps. Thanks, Vik!)
    Casey lets say you could only get the time to ride 250miles and you wanted to hit the best singletrack and hot-springs on the route....what would your recommendation be?
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    ACA just sent me their spring Cyclosource catalog yesterday, and the Hot Spring map sets are listed in the catalog. However, I checked again and they are not on the WEB site. So I just called to order the map set, but the call center person said that they can not take any orders for the mapset until Feb 25.

    So mark your calendars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Casey lets say you could only get the time to ride 250miles and you wanted to hit the best singletrack and hot-springs on the route....what would your recommendation be?
    If your looking for a loop, I would suggest - to you Vik, and any other experienced bikepacker - the one a few of us have been discussing on the bikepacking.net thread (ACA's Next Dirt Route).

    The only problem with doing Ketchum > White Cloud Option > Stanley > Alturas Lake > Willow Creek Option > Ketchum, is the section between Alturas Lake and Willow Creek is not part of our routing, and no one can find beta on it. I think the trails will be fine through the Ross Fork Basin, but they could suck. Its probably 15ish miles worth of trails, and a few more on dirt roads.

    If those trails go, I think this loop will be exactly what you are looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTFargo View Post
    ACA just sent me their spring Cyclosource catalog yesterday, and the Hot Spring map sets are listed in the catalog. However, I checked again and they are not on the WEB site. So I just called to order the map set, but the call center person said that they can not take any orders for the mapset until Feb 25.

    So mark your calendars!
    True that. Our big rollout - press releases, blog posts, yada ya - will be on the 25th. I hope the maps will get here in time...

    Like I said, I'll post - in this thread - the second they arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTFargo View Post
    ACA just sent me their spring Cyclosource catalog yesterday, and the Hot Spring map sets are listed in the catalog. However, I checked again and they are not on the WEB site. So I just called to order the map set, but the call center person said that they can not take any orders for the mapset until Feb 25.

    So mark your calendars!
    Just to confirm this, I just talked to our sales folks and we are not taking orders until the 25th. Even if the maps come in early, we are still not taking orders until the 25th. If the maps come in late, we will be taking pre-orders on the 25th.
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    We have the maps in house. You can order them starting tomorrow morning.
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    Available to purchase now in the Mountain time zone; I'm buying mine right now! Stoked!!

    Edit: Spoke too soon--site crashed

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    I called up and ordered mine!!!!! They are on the way to my house, well after the snow clears today :-)

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    Got my maps ordered and already have a couple people interested.
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    Plane tickets booked - check
    Bike packing bike - check
    Bike packing gear - check

    The maps went on sale this morning. I got the first phone ordered set at 8.01 Mountain Time Zone.

    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the sleeps before departure, but its safe to say I'm looking forward to this.

    We don't have hot springs in Scotland so this will be a treat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmoonter View Post
    Plane tickets booked - check
    Bike packing bike - check
    Bike packing gear - check

    The maps went on sale this morning. I got the first phone ordered set at 8.01 Mountain Time Zone.

    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the sleeps before departure, but its safe to say I'm looking forward to this.

    We don't have hot springs in Scotland so this will be a treat.
    What time of year are you going?
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    Ordered a set via the website. Flawless experience.

    Love this part of Idaho, looking forward to exploring it by bike via this route. Get a membership and support the ACA (you'll also get discount on the maps!).

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    September.

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    Hey everyone. Our friends in Ketchum need help, now:

    While we are all celebrating the launch of this new route, there are good people in a meeting in Ketchum fighting so that we all can all ride it. Please support these local efforts by sending an email to the Blaine County Commissioners saying that you would like to preserve the historic bicycle access to the Boulder White-Cloud Mountains if it were to recieve National Monument designation: jlovell (at) co.blaine.id.us. It really does help.

    Here is some more information from the Wood River Bike Coalition Public Meeting Tuesday re: Boulder-White Clouds - Wood River Bike Coalition

    It would be great if the commissioners got back from the meeting with a flood of emails!
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    I purchased my maps last night at about 10:45EST.

    Flumphboy-I just sent an email to the Commissioners!

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    JYB, thank you so much for doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JYB View Post
    I purchased my maps last night at about 10:45EST.

    Flumphboy-I just sent an email to the Commissioners!
    +1 - email sent as well.
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    I will be riding this route in mid July. With 4 others. An old fart tour at a fairly easy pace. If anyone is interested in joining us, just pm me. I will be driving out from the east coast with a half empty car, if that makes it easier. Let me know, harry

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    The 500-Mile Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route

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    I'm looking at this route, and the reaction to the new maps on the Adventure Cycling page. Lots of pent-up demand. Looks like there will be traffic jams on the route this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other Anne View Post
    I'm looking at this route, and the reaction to the new maps on the Adventure Cycling page. Lots of pent-up demand. Looks like there will be traffic jams on the route this summer.
    That's why I am waiting until 2015. Let all the hot springs flush out the dirty bikepacker grime from the first season!
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    I can see that waiting to 2015 might mean things are quieter. But it would be fun to be in the first people/groups doing the tour, too. Also, word of mouth is a thing. If the route is as good as it sounds, maybe in year 2, even more people will do the route because they hear about it from their friends.

    Either 2014 or 2015 would be way fun.

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    Last thing I want to do on a dirt tour is see people I didn't come with [unless they are generous and carrying ice cold beer!]. But it's easy enough to choose dates on the edge of the prime season to avoid any peak crowds.
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    I also have my flight booked and now mappes ordered.

    Flying in from UK on 21st June and plan to start route on 23rd.

    Not sure yet how much of the single track sections I will ride - waiting to study the maps.
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    Really looking forward to riding a couple sections of it this coming season with my wife. Nice work Casey and ACA !

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    For Casey or anyone that gets 'er done this year I'm interested in which section would be the best [particularly considering singletrack] if you can only do one of the top or bottom loops?
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    Not that the top is bad - because it's not - but between the two, bottom, hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwmtb View Post
    Really looking forward to riding a couple sections of it this coming season with my wife. Nice work Casey and ACA !
    Thanks Chad. I almost stopped by last weekend, but the driving was slow, and we had to get to the trailhead, and up the trail to Goldbug before dark. Ill swing by next time.

    Have fun in Island Park this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flumphboy View Post
    Not that the top is bad - because it's not - but between the two, bottom, hands down.
    Thanks. Just want to have options depending on time available and group that's going.
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    I agree the bottom ones are the best for singletrack with the Whitecloud option being hands down the best. For those wanting even more singletrack there are defiantly more options along the route to include more sections. Idaho is truly the backcountry single track state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    I agree the bottom ones are the best for singletrack with the Whitecloud option being hands down the best. For those wanting even more singletrack there are defiantly more options along the route to include more sections. Idaho is truly the backcountry single track state.
    If anyone wants to GPS other singletrack options I'd be willing to curate and compile and "unofficial" set of GPS tracks.

    For someone like me who has to drive 1 day+ each way and ride with a group I can't really "explore" the way somebody more local can.
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    Vik, All the GPS tracks are done. All you need to do is go to: Idaho Trails

    From this site you can export gpx tracks and import them into google earth or other programs. Then you can always post in the Idaho forum for specific trail conditions and direction of travel. I am planning a two day ride from featherville to Sawtooth City and back which includes about 60 miles of singletrack without the need to carry as much gear since you just stay at sawtooth city, which is the half way point. So this would be a good option for people looking for a shorter adventure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    Vik, All the GPS tracks are done. All you need to do is go to: Idaho Trails

    From this site you can export gpx tracks and import them into google earth or other programs. Then you can always post in the Idaho forum for specific trail conditions and direction of travel. I am planning a two day ride from featherville to Sawtooth City and back which includes about 60 miles of singletrack without the need to carry as much gear since you just stay at sawtooth city, which is the half way point. So this would be a good option for people looking for a shorter adventure.
    Thanks. That's a great resource.

    If folks ride high quality single-track sections that play nice with the rest of the route I'd love to hear about them and get GPS tracks.

    I'm working on an end to end b-packing route on Vancouver Island and getting feedback from the saddle is critical to understanding which route options are worth pursing and which ones are duds.
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    We (ACA) will have route tracks, and waypoint for the services and hot springs, ready to go by the end of April.

    Personally, I use the "Idaho Topo" base data, with the "Northwest Trails" overlaid on top of it. Both datasets can be found for free here: GPSFileDepot - Idaho Garmin Compatible Maps
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    For those wanting even more singletrack there are defiantly more options along the route to include more sections. Idaho is truly the backcountry single track state.
    Yes! this is exactly what I hoped people would do. Get in there and create their own trip. To save our ass, we have to suggest people do not use the maps for off-route travel, but I tried to do a thorough job of putting all the trails and roads on there. So, people can at least see that they exist, and do further research. Although as we both know, not all trails exist, like through Ants Basin...

    Basically I tried to create the map that I would want to use.
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    Just received my map set today!! There is just sooo much information its going to take me some time to go thru it all. This is just so awesome and a great way to spend yet another week of below freezing temps, though riding my fat bike is also fun!

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